Is The Legendary Honda NSX Actually Overrated? (JDM Legends Tour Pt. 27)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- No doubt about it, the original Honda NSX is a thing of legend. You can't whisper it without someone mentioning Ayrton Senna, or telling you how it forced Ferrari to change what they do.
But sometimes, a car's legend can grow so much that it become impossible for it to live up to expectations. I've just bagged Honda UK's very own NSX for a weekend and as someone who has never been an NSX fanboy, I now intend to find out just how good (or not) this modern day icon really is.
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the NSX really is the perfect sportscar - it has usable power, it's easy to see out of, it's really compact, and by older sportscar standards, extremely reliable and (relatively) inexpensive to maintain.
The NSX was the wake up call to exotics to stop making $h*t and pretending it was character. NSX was also the inspiration for the McLaren F1
Toyota Sera was the inspiration for the F1, not the NSX.
@@philipcooper8297 I think you mean Sera's doors were AN inspiration for the F1. Not the car itself. Gordon Murray (Head Designer) said the NSX was the F1's primary inspiration.
alwong604 this is kind of random but whatever happened to the Nissan Mid-4 ? Man I wish they would have put that in production !!!
and the Mclaren F1 requires just as much support if not more than all the worst exotics combined.
I don't know of any exotic car that isn't shit reliabilitywise. So, nothing changed, really.
Always preferred the pop up headlight original. Looks cleaner and more aggressive
Nope, this is the version I prefer.
Changed my minds lads MUCH prefer the pop up headlight, dunno what I was thinking before please ignore my last comment!
@@OldSkoolUncleChris 😂😂😂 Pop up headlights rule. The mighty Triumph TR7 had them. 😂
You can tell the quality of your content is respected because you seem to be getting more and more manufacturers wanting to work with you.
Great for you, even better for us subs!
Thankyou!
Well said, and well deserved. High quality indeed. 👍🏼
@R A I mean, I've spent two decades in it myself so I'd be interested in what you mean by your comment, with examples?
@R A sounds like you should start your own channel pointing out all the many mistakes others make
@R A Plenty of other channels out there. Bye!
I love my NSX, a 2005 in Long Beach Blue, had a black 95 before that. Always bought something else instead. Should have bought a NSX a long time ago. She’s a keeper, I will never sell her
These joyrides are never gonna get any cheaper, my wholehearted friendly advice is to pull the trigger and buy one asap or you're gonna regret not doing so.
I've bought 3 and still holding on to them like babies.
I've got a '96 NSX-T. Love it! I put a Comptech supercharger, high air flow and exhaust on it. Plenty fast enough for me, and the Honda reliability is great. It's a bit hard on tires and the battery is tucked away, but overall a wonderful car. Don't need a money pit like so many supercars are. Don't need to remove the engine for service work, lol
I've been thinking about getting a '93. It is difficult to get service and particularly parts for the car if anything major happens?
The earlier pop up headlight version is so much prettier. That's one of my dream cars of all time.
Beauty is surely subjective and as owners of both pop-up and facelifted fixed headlights, I honestly prefer the latter, especially the R with the vented hood.
Nonetheless, they are both absolute beauties and one can never go wrong with either.
@@NSX.R yep
The car disappears and its just you and the road. Brilliant observation and very true of the best automobiles.
The car unite with you
To me the perfect nsx is early pop up headlight version in red with a manual obviously
Na1
Na2 nsx-r
@@drdoomgoat38 the early pop up ones are na1. Na2 with pop ups started in 1998.
Na2 with facelift 2002-2005
@@bmorris5863 i know.I mean that the na2 nsx-r is my favorite.
@@drdoomgoat38 oh right,yeah mine too. Insane prices though
that's a gorgeous car, and I bet you don't worry about it catching fire when you park it !
😂😂😂
I bought my first 4k monitor at the weekend and it's really making me appreciate content creators who upload in UHD! The POV driving section at the start makes me think there's no way the NSX is overrated.
Glad it is appreciated
I've been in for a fast ride in an nsx and it was amazing .
One of the best looking cars ever made, IMHO, and one of the first reliable super cars!
Cracking vid , cracking car
I wish I’d bought one many moons ago where they were languishing at £12-£15k
Keep the cracking vids coming
Perfect for watching with my cuppa in the morning before work
14:59 "Now let's give you a little sample of that V6 noise I'm talking about". That is my favorite part. Nice review!
This car should be driven wearing loafers with white shocks!
This is the only supercar I'd want normally expensive supercars aren't my cup of tea but the nsx I can appreciate even in my current 15yr old state
You'll grow out of it
Jay, would love to see you in a dc2 type R, having owned one for seven years. The only 90s fwd that can still amaze today. I believe you would not only respect but also love that.
Edit to add: Evo mag called it the greatest fwd car ever made. Granted that was maybe ten years ago now. But I have to labour the point: If you haven't tried one, you MUST!
Oliver Read strongly agree
I've got a dc 5 and its a little monster!! A brilliant car.
Oliver Read fully agree. My UK car is still brilliant today. 68k, refreshed bushes, AD08 rubber. Still an absolute giant-killer
Production quality of your videos is ever improving, can't explain how well you almost tell a story from the beginning of the video to the conclusion, epic.
There are becoming rare to spot. I'm from Singapore and I just saw a red early model NSX. So beautiful ❤️👍
i saw one twice in uk! :D
I've driven a 95 NSX, a 95 F355, a 95 Porsche 911, and the NSX would be my choice. The maintenance cost is high for a Honda, but not for a supercar. The Porsche is excellent in terms of maintenance costs (common), the Ferrari was stratospheric. The NSX is the most excellent automobile as a whole. With a higher budget and unlimited resources, the F355 would be my choice. The Porsche is lovely, amazing in all respects, but, as always, teutonic, surgical, lacking in the passion department (German, as is the case, but shouldn't discourage anyone. A 97 911 would be an amazing ownership experience. The Ferrari isn't a daily driver, meaning, every single day of the year. The NSX can be just that. It can be civil and it can be a beast. NSX feels like it's built of surgical instruments. It's predictable and it delivers. It's the long-term owner. It's sexy in a rocket scientist sort of way.
What? A back then aluminium futuristic looking sports car that you could actually drive everyday and maintain/repair virtually at the same rate as a regular car and having a legendary Japanese reliability is overrated?
Your user name is bias :) love the nsx
@@joebezslu Guilty as charged!
When written down, this is miles better than that quirks and features guy, great job!
A good representation of the car and probably your best review to date? When they "snap" on the limit, there is no getting them back for mere mortals. Like you, I am glad they exist, but happy for someone else to own one!
I really like your video content and it is always improving. Somehow you manage to speak throughout the video without ever beeing boring. Most youtubers just waffle about and I lose interest soon. You have a pleasant style and voice. Keep it up and please continue testing odd cars even now when you are getting access to more and more supercars.
Thankyou
Regarding the NSX's spare wheel and tyre, there will always be a situation when a puncture is inconvenient, but at least Honda designed the NSX boot shape specifically to allow any of the wheels to fit so it could be carried somewhere to be repaired, which is more than other manufacturers did with their similar cars. Ferrari just gave you a can of Finilec.
Something that Jay failed to mention in his criticism of the spare wheel and tyre is that the NSX was in fact supplied with its own inflation pump, so once the collapsed tyre was on the car, you could inflate it at the side of the road. I think they may have been the first manufacturer to supply a spare like this.
And he also missed the fact that although the car has different wheel sizes front and rear, the spare could be used in either location. Just by inflating it to different pressures (as stated in the instructions), it would assume the correct diameter to match the wheel on the other side, front or rear. I'm very sure they were the first (and may still be the only) manufacturer to supply a spare with that capability. Honda worked hard with I think it was Yokohama to achieve this.
Senna may not have been involved right from the beginning of the design stage, but he was during the actual drive testing and evaluation stages of the development process, somewhat more than was intimated in the video.
During development, Honda of course wanted to test the NSX against the perceived current competition and tried to run the NSX against (among others) a Ferrari (348 I seem to recall, or was it a 328) and a Porsche 911. The comparison test was largely unsuccessful as the Ferrari blew its clutch out the side of the car before the test really began and the 911's front end was so unstable at the speeds they wanted to test, no-one wanted to drive it.
I now recall the test also included the Nissan Skyline (GTR/GTO?) with which the Honda engineers were very impressed.
Before anyone asks, yes I've had an NSX and I used to work for Honda (not at the same time though).
Jeremy who? Honestly mate you're really good at what you do. Keep up the good work. I can't get enough of your reviews. Top marks. Thank you.
Thanks!
The full size wheel you remove fits in the trunk! Yes it fits, I've done it.
18000rpm * What happens though if you have a passenger plus your weekend luggage? 😣
Fell in love with the NSX when I saw an all black one from behind in Belfast about 15 yrs ago with that full width rear light and was like wtf is that thing!!?
Love you and the videos Jay. Never quit pursuing your passions. I may be a bit biased - I love taking a break from finance and tuning into this thing we share!
The one with pop ups looked so much better
I disagree. The nsx is the only car that looks better without pop up headlights
Gotta disagree with that, breaks the car profile IMO.
Very good research and a breath of fresh air when compared to other reviews of the car. Well done to you sir!
It is a special car and Honda built a blinder. They get under your skin big time and you are absolutely right once you start driving you forget what your in and you just gun it
Loved this review, thank you James and Honda Uk... Lovely car and always have respect for the supercar that was a game changer. I can only imagine the conversations in Modena over this car 😃
Excellent review Jay. Learned more about the NSX than a dozen magazines and videos so far.. Love your channel, keep on mate
Thankyou
Opening shots of you just driving with pure engine was perfection,should do that for all your videos
Wondered what nick frost was doing after Sean of the dead😂
lol, I was going to ask him how Simon Pegg was doing.
Eating cornettos it would appear. And bagging all my favourite dream cars to do journo reviews on. Jayemmie git. 🤣👍🏽
I bought my first Honda product in 1981 and haven't looked back. I have a '95 NSX(5-speed) with 162,000 miles. Only normal wear items replaced. Mobil 1 oil changes. 21-24 mpg. Just the most amazing exoticar ever made.
Another excellent review thanks. I'd love an NSX like this. I don't have the need for 500+bhp, like the sound of 6 cylinder cars, and would like a bit of usability.
The NSX (the original model) is one of the only cars I've ever seen where looking into the cabin provides an optical illusion effect wherein the floor of the footwell appears to be through the ground and the seats appear to be sat level with the ground. It is a truly bizarre experience. I still want one, 23 years on from my first introduction to them. First gen, of course.
Finally found another car TH-camr that speaks sense and able to see both sides of a car and a company. These views and opinions are hard to find, especially with the nsx, everyone literally just hopped onto the hype train when the new one came out which blinded their opinions of their review, whilst your review of the nsx is brilliant.
My first job i was a trainee mechanic at a motorbike shop. The owner had a red NSX which he purchased at quite a discount through his Honda connections. It was my job to wash the car every now and then. Was simply lovely., i remember when you could pick up an NSX for between 15 and 25k Hope you get to check out a new NSX.
The japanese cars i would love to drive would be the Toyota 2000gt, NSX and the LFA.
The owner of the Honda motorbike dealer in Midland Western Australia (10mins from my house) has one its always parked outside yellow colour. So if i drive past I see it. I owned a 2000 Prelude for many years so i have a soft spot for the brand. Lovely looking car. Nice to know the NSX lives up to the hype. Great Content. Im newish to the channel. Loving your stuff. Keep up the good work
The full size wheel does just fit in the rear luggage space. Assuming you have no luggage!
Nsx over evora anyday
Honda quality and reliability ftw
The Evora has a Toyota Camry engine doesn't it? Lotus literally realized they make shit cars in terms of reliability and went to the most reliable manufacturer in the world lol. So, technically, if we're just talking about the Toyota bits, the Evora is actually more reliable.
@@sharpemang saw a vinwiki vid stating how much of a lemon the evora is... always being down at the shop
Idk if its true
NSXPrime Wiki actually has decent production numbers for at least the US market and about 8.5% of total production were Autos in this market, with Auto production skewed measurably toward the NA1 (91-96) cars. Also with respect to your steering comment...you may be safe: the car Ayrton would have driven wouldn't have had the power steering rack that the 05s do. (I agree though, his involvement is often overstated. Bobby Rahal and "Gan San" had far more seat time and input in addition to development engineer drivers of course).
Good, honest review. Can't agree with the gearbox comment; it and the s2000's are in another league compared to the Evora, particularly before they upgraded the cables.
21:44 Can’t get enough of your insights Jay. As an economist you would absolutely kill it
Having owned a 1991, 1992 and a 2000 NSX, I much prefer the early years due to the fixed roof. The handling just seemed better. The 6 speed offered starting in 1997 was a major improvement however.
I've always loved the NSX, and consider my Evora (and particularly the n/a models) to be akin to the closest modern version of it - transverse non-turbo V6, similar weight, similar dimensions, similar focus on driver involvement and (a bit of) practicality.
Shame the Evora never got the targa panel option.
I had a 91 manual and your review was spot on. I had straight pipes on mine and it sounded like a dirty v8 on load.
Maybe Japanese model has two cup holder..
Also different shift knob.
You said Ferrari would have storage up front, but thats just wrong. Both the 328 and the 348 which were the main targets for the NSX had spare tires up front just like the NSX, and if you use the factory size of 215 or 225 tires (like you should), they will fitt in the back storage if you have to use the spare. (thats why the left side is bigger and a round shape).
Overrated? No, end of discussion. No need for clickbait.
The click bait title annoyed me very much as well. If he were actually going to make an argument that it is overrrated, the title would make sense, but no--just bait.
Agreed. Preposterous click-baitey title
Jay you are basically the English scotty Kilmer. Without fail you always manage to swing in a reference to any type of lotus, but pretty much always the lotus Elise.
Anyways brilliant car. Brilliant video.
Spoiler: Hell No
4:22 You really like that 3000GT. Nice double take and still stay on topic.
Enjoyed that review. Will always be my favourite super car pin up.
Baby 190e 1.8 manual please 😉
Respect to you. A great video of an absolute icon of a car. One of if not your best videos. Really enjoyed the content. Thanks for educating me.
Thanks for watching!
I love the looks of this version of NSX and I completely understand why they are so highly sought after and the prices are so buoyant. They were a genuine poke in the eye and thorn in the side of Ferrari and Porsche which I also love!
Another excellent video - keep up the great work Jay.
When I saw the Mitsubishi 3000GT I wanted you to drive that instead, the twin turbo 4WD would be a bucket list drive for me, the NSX is a beautiful car but not one I've ever dreamt of owning.
Graeme W the 3000 was never a real car fanatics car of the day. That belonged to the Supra, 300z TT or NSX if you had a lot of coin. The 3000 and dodge stealth, although fairly quick, were always the laughing stock of the bunch. Too heavy, too high, too much body roll and a day late and a dollar short to the game.
@@KosmicHRTRacingTeam It seems that after talking to someone with knowledge this is definitely a case of never meet your hero's, a bit like when people rave about the E Type Jaguar, I've driven maybe 20 or so when I worked at a classic car garage and to be honest they've got dreadful handling, body roll and just not nice to drive at all. Still like the 3000 because of its look and anyway I've not got the skills or the roads to use its full potential, do like the the Supra and 300ZX for he same reasons. Cheers
Great comment!!!
When you get to your destination even if you don't have one lol. Been a while since I've just drove without even think where I'm going. My 40th anniversary GT EDITION 370z gt edition gets delivered Monday so think I'll disappear for the day. Best car channel on here 👍
I love that behind the shoulder camera angle.
I had an NSX (original 1991) and it was absolutely telepathic in both ways - the way it reacts and the way it gives back road info. However, at current price I'll have to pass.
I like your reviews, I don't like bullshit, and your honest opinion goes a long way.
Sometimes you wonder if old school cars live up to the hope especially the NSX
Maybe you should do a series on 80's 90's legends. I own a Williams clio and would love to see an honest review on that. I love the way it drives and handles. In fact you can drive it to its limits and still feel utterly under your control.
Carry on the good work and look forward to more reviews!!
that wind noise intro was brutal on the old ears.
Great review, you should do a review on the 3000gt VR4, very underated car!
A terrific car indeed. I purchased one new back in 1997. The car was heavy but with a few mods the engine horsepower could be bumped to over 400 quite easily.
Great work as usual. We'll done brother keep it up 👆
My dad drove a new NSX owned by famous bike racer, he loved it. My dad was a total car guy. It is a very good car and you can everyday it.
Cant keep your eyes off that 3000gt. Got the love
Kinda looks average sitting next to that 240z, now that's a proper classic jappa ,I know I've owned two, awesome cars ,maybe a video on that one??? as always an Excellent review James....cheers mate...
I think it would be interesting to drive an older model, I've heard that the NSX changed more than one would expect over its very long production lifetime. Things like the electronic steering which are a bit of let down weren't present in the original car, and apparently it got a bit porkier as well. I assume it was a combination of Honda wanting to keep innovating and maintaining the relevance of the car combined with developments in safety regulations that saw the end of so many a pop up headlight.
Love the Initial D mention. 👍
How about making a video on the new Lotus Hyper car? You are a proclaimed Lotus guy and the new car is the BEST looking car I’ve ever seen!
I agree, would be nice to hear his thoughts on the new car.
Lotus did not invite me to the launch
@@JayEmmOnCars They didn't invite me neither but doesn't stop me having an opinion on it :D
Back when engineers and test-drivers were running the show at Honda!
Never overrated.Great vid.
The new Corvette has a bit of nsx about it in terms of it's trying to hang with Ferrari for a lot lot less
Be interesting to see the new vette lap times
I have a little 2004 Civic Type R Ep3. Honda make incredible cars.
I can only imagine how an NSX feels to drive.
Superb car! When it comes to classics and borderline classic cars though, value is often not at all proportional to ability - when you say 'there's only so much a car designed in the 1980's can do'. The story behind the model and the association with Senna must contribute to that value too.
i was sat next to you the other day in traffic near newport, you was in a old s class
Ha yeah that would be me
Is it overrated. Definitely not
Is the new NSX underrated and unappreciated, most definitely.
What people don't see is that since the new nsx came out, the prices of the older models went way up....for a guy like me that thought the price would drop when the new new came thinking I can get one...I was wrong.
No. No it's not.
I'd have one of these over 90% of other supercars (excluding hypercars of course). Timeless design, reliability and perfectly usable performance & driving experience. They got it bang on with this car.
You are right. In the day, the NSX was consider underpowered with bland styling, as was the Gen 3 and 4 Supra. They managed to achieve lengendary status with so little support in their time, they were quickly cancelled.
Park the car next to any modern sports/super car (ex: Ferrari 488) and you will realize how small the car is.
I'm sure there are true fans there of this car. As each person drives more cars and is able to compare and set aside the hysteria and myth, each one gravitates to their preferred car. In my case I don't think (for the prices) anyone can beat a 997 GT3 or a good Noble M12 (choose the one you like the most). There are plenty of interesting cars out there, NSX and Esprit and Evora included but you'd really need to be a very committed brand enthusiast to enjoy their vehicle dynamics more than a GT3 or an M12.
Senna's role is Massively overplayedin development: He just drove the car once on Suzuka while he was in japan, and it is utter bullshit that honda engineers stiffened the car because senna said so. They were already putting in cutting edge technology in development of mechanics, structure and manufacuring process and there is no way that they didn't made sure that all invested money paid off.
5:35 rear is longer and much more proportional than 355. This coming from someone who, I'm sure, knows how XJ220 or other mid-engine car designed for high speed looks like, is a bit strange
8:18 you put it in the trunk, anything up to 17 inches and 255+ section tire
I have a NSX, trunk is designed to take a full size OEM wheel, that's why one side of trunk will be larger. Yes, the 355 will have storage space up front but the NSX gives you one out back with more space than Ferrari.
Aren't most older cars overrated and romanticised? They are generally slower, less efficient, less reliable and poorly equipped compared to many modern counterparts. But always hold a special place in a petrol heads heart because they deliver memories a visceral driving sensation that does not exist today.
22:29 Word - best comment on what makes a great sports car a great sports car .
your rambling is better suited to podcast than YT
When are you going to start giving JAY scores?
Donald Salkovick - Jay and Doug seem to be good representations of their countries.
NSX changed the game forever. Ferrari, Lamborghini, et al was put on notice, and as a result now make the quality of exotics we deserve. Honda/Acura single-handedly forced them all to start over. One of the best cars of all time
Jay you should make a trip out to Southern California to go into the corporate museums of these Japanese car manufacturers. These manufacturers also have design studios out here too.
a NSX overrated? Get the hell outta here
The only super car I'd consider owning.
it's not a super car...
What a beautiful lady... good show JM, really enjoyed this one. Would love it if the Type R owner shows up to comment.
At 8:05, about where you put the full-size tire: the left side of the trunk well is significantly carved out to hold it.
Your right it's a great car but it's like a childhood memory of your favourite TV show .........watching it 20 years later it's just a nostalgic feeling that remains
I really love Lotus Evora but 1999 to 2005 Honda NSX is much much better and fun to drive.