Thomas joins you again from car heaven =) Stay tuned also to Brian's video from the world premiere: Also join Brian at the World Premiere: th-cam.com/video/8qkM3adVGCE/w-d-xo.html
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Why you compare T-Roc with Ateca and Karoq? T-Roc is in the same category as Seat Arona. :-)
Autogefühl having so called unified platform is dissadvantage in my opinion. All cars look the same. Interior is almost identical: golf, passat, artheon, now t-rock etc. It is so boring. I have passat B8 and I tought it had its own style but it looks like all other VWs.
Thinking from the perspective of Autogefühl’s comments on platforms above. It really does not make financial sense to create separate platforms for each and every vehicle. Perhaps considering things from a brand perspective will help. Lots of manufactured products are made on so-called platforms e.g., all Apple products look familiar. If you like a brand’s aesthetics, then you choose it and start considering what your practical requirements are. I am, like yourself, a VW Passat (B8) owner and really enjoy my car, interior included. It is a VW and it suits my practical needs. If you do not like the VW aesthetic any more, then you could consider choosing a new car from within the VW group. The group provides a solid line up: SEAT, Audi, Porsche or another even more expensive brand. The car you choose might be, as a for instance, the Audi Q3, which is on the same platform as the VW Tiguan. All Audi's look similar, unless you consider the versions, but even then the so-called DNA is there throughout the brand and between generations. If you want a different platform and design, then you leave and move to completely new pastures i.e., Ford, Honda, Toyota, Mercedes Benz and so forth. There is plenty of choice.
The exterior color built into elements of the interior is a feature i would like to see in other vehicles too, looks really nice. Thank you for another awesome review/video! :)
Thank you. Excellent video analysis of a very PERFECT vehicle. My only opinion is regarding the knob for adjusting the back of the seat. Personally I love that about Volkswagens and any other manufacturer that uses it. I absolutely hate having four or five positions for the seat backs, and the knob gives you infinite adjustability. Well done!
Der allererste VW der mich wirklich anspricht! Ich bin 28 und fahre aktuell den aktuellen C-Coupé von MB. Mein nächstes Auto muss allerdings größer und familientauglicher sein. Und der T-Roc ist wirklich eine gut gelungene Überraschung für mich! Top!
Love your profesional and detailed reviews, never boring... thank you! Some readers' comments should take into consideration that these are seen in different markets around the world.
I agree with Thomas, I think it will be a great sales success. It looks really good, a lot better than the Audi Q2, which I find really boring! I can see a lot of people upgrading their Golf to a T-Roc, and higher spec ones stealing sales from the Q2!
Great to see the T-Roc review Thomas. Nice job! Looking forward to seeing the test drive. I too think that this car is going to be very successful. I like that they have preserved the main design elements of the original concept car. As manufacturing technology moves forward, more car makers appear enabled to do so. Looking at the car itself, the overall exterior and, particularly the light signatures, are very neat. The interior is very good looking as well, being still classically VW, but with a modern and personable design. Practically speaking, the car and it is boot size appear to be a good size.
it's a nice car, beautifull interior, it appears to me a little resemblence to the audi Q3 on the exterior, overall such a remarcable job, Thomas you'v nailed it as always, wish you the best Autogefuehl
versatile car, this small Tiguan. I regret that they will not offer the particle filtre on the petrol engines from the start. Thanks Thomas for the exellent presentation, I am looking forward to your driving review.
Brilliantly informative overview of the T-Roc Thomas. Look forward to seeing UK prices and trim levels when available. Could be a potential purchase later in the year :-)
Amazing design...looks like a concept! Beautiful colour options as well..Really great new design language, with this, the new Arteon and the upcoming Touareg. I just wonder how it looks with smaller wheels.
Another flawless presentation by Thomas! The car promises to be great, not too sure about the color coded interior theme, interesting idea, but is it really working in terms of quality and visual comfort?
ChAbAr VW: "We haven't decided yet if we will sell it in America." That's how VW says "No." They will regret selling neither this nor the Q2 in America.
Wow! For me, the T-Roc is better than the Audi Q2! Not the interior quality, but the style! Well done Volkswagen and thanks Autogefühl for the video! ;)
Looks better than Audi Q2 I think. Clincher that will attract buyers is the color choices with the well designed/dash interior. I don't see any problem wiping off dirt/debris with the plastic flat top dash. Fake exhaust.. again?, what the heck when all vehicles go electric or hydrogen it'll be the end of mufflers anyway. Great video and review Thomas.
Another great preview, thank you. I really like the look of this car. For me, the exterior is slightly better looking than my Peugeot 3008, but the interior doesn't come close. It is also just a bit too small for my needs. Other than that, I think it's a very attractive purchase. Thomas, you mentioned no hybrid, electric or CNG version which prompts me to ask: are there hidden environmental costs to electric cars that are not talked about? I've often wondered about the impact of mining the raw materials for the batteries, then the transportation costs in terms of pollution as well as pollution caused by the manufacture of the batteries. What are your thoughts?
yes this is an aspect that needs careful consideration. Basically there is an environmental problem with almost every raw material. It's sadly our system of economy which is boosting reckless profit on the costs of exploiting people and the environment. The whole oil production is surely a bigger issue though. It will be the challenge of the future to make the economy sustainable
It's more a Polo-SUV as a Golf-SUV. For example, the door-panels are the same as in the Polo - one part cheap hard plastic and a tiny part of cloth for the arm-rest. If it is a Golf-SUV the door-panel would have soft touch at the upper end and much more cloth in it, but the door-panels in an Audi Q2 are cheap too. Another example is the cheap version of the hood fastener.
Thomas, On the 17 reg latest Tiguan they have changed the info-tainment screen to an all glass one and got rid of the knobs either side, which in turn makes the screen a bit larger. Do you think the T-ROC will be changed to this when it hits the showrooms ?
It seems this car will compete with the Honda HRV and Subraru Crosstrek. If so, it should do well. The cars coming from the land of the rising sun are starting to look like spaceships from Manga comics (most notably the CRV and Lexus). Persuaded the girlfriend into buying a 2018 Tiguan (All Space in Europe) and she's glad she did. I appreciate the understatement of VW. In the long term, this design will grow on you and it'll stand up against the test of time. Less is more yo'.
In case I made a mistake with the engines, here again the complete list :-) Benziner/Petrol 1.0 TSI 115 PS 1.5 TSI 150 PS 2.0 TSI 190 PS Diesel 2.0 TDI 115 PS 2.0 TDI 150 PS 2.0 TDI 190 PS
Thomas, you mentioned that middle engines (I am mostly concerned with 1.5 TSI Evo) will be available with 4Motion, but it contradicts what VW has unveiled so far on all EU markets. Are you able to confirm with VW if 1.5TSI will at some point be available with 4 wheel drive?
thanks! The T-Roc is a little bigger/longer, it is between Arona and Ateca. Compare those reviews: th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=seat+arona+autogef%C3%BChl th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=seat+ateca+autogef%C3%BChl
I disagree with the fact that the hard door panel and hard dashboard are cost saving measures. If they were soft touch, why would you buy a Q2? For the badge? Not really.
The back is so much more beautiful than the q2. But I do prefer the interieur of the Audi. Would also have preferred it to a bit higher. But looks really good.
I’m really interested in this car. Can’t wait to see it closely, however the hard plastics put me off though to be honest I own a Peugeot 207. It has a soft touch dashboard and hard plastics on side doors. They’re easy to clean and scratches are hardly visible. Curious to see it in person, thank you as always.
VW needs fresh and notably cars! The T-Roc is the best answer to that👍 I really love the new design language of VW (e.g. new Arteon) 😍😍 I hope there will be a "R" or at least a "R-Line" package available very soon 😋
Hello, Not sure how many times i watched some of your videos :). Great work! So went to test drive the t-roc and the Peugeot 3008. I really like em both... Searching for an advice as i can buy only one of them :D Can u help ? Which one is the more reliable family car in the long run?
Hi! Das Problem bzgl. der Anzeige der Navikarte liegt wohl daran, das in dem vorgestelltem T-Roc das DiscoverMedia verbaut ist. Das DiscoverPro kann die Navikarte auf beiden Displays anzeigen. VG
I think the qashqai does not need to worry. This car is just not...VW enough. The design is too generic(hide the badge and you would be hard pressed to guess the brand), the materials are not up to par with other VW products and except for the active info display and the infotainment system it has no real weapons to fight against the Nissan crossover. Anyway, great review, Thomas! Thanks
Love the turning knob for the wider range of backrest adjustments. However U.S. market in general doesn't like it. Hopefully VW will change their decision and we will get this vehicle in our market. Currently Buick encore and chevy trax rule this segment. Thanks for the great review.
Hello Thomas! Very nice review as always. But there is one small mistake about the engines at 9:26. There will be the new 1.5 TSI with 150 PS. The 2.0 will have 190 PS. Grüße aus Lübeck
Oh, didnt I say so? I got that in my notes, maybe I spoke out wrongly. correct list: Benziner 1.0 TSI 115 PS 2.0 TSI 150 PS 2.0 TSI 190 PS Diesel 2.0 TDI 115 PS 2.0 TDI 150 PS 2.0 TDI 190 PS
The interior reminds me of the mk3 GTI "driver's Edition". Probably won't come to the US until they end the Tiguan Limited production. (And take out all the options to get it below 22,000 USD)
The highest trim level is SEL in the UK. The VW website states that SEL trim has App-Connect as standard implying that this feature is supplied already enabled but yet the Optional Extra for this trim seems to require the purchase of an Activation Document to enable this feature to work. So what is the correct situation? Does anyone know?
Nice review as always! Kannst du/könnt ihr auch mal in Zukunft die Blinker und Scheinwerfer, Nebelleuchten etc. zeigen? ich finde das ist erwähnenswert, in Zeiten der LED-Ausstattung :)
danke! Ich glaube wir haben einige Aufnahmen, wo man die Scheinwerfer sieht, oder? Problem ist, dass sie häufig flimmern (kamera frame rate und shutter vs licht ...), aber wir schauen mal, dass wir das ausbauen in Zukunft!
Thanks for a very detailed preview, Thomas. The T-Roc is OK I suppose but, to my eyes, isn't especially inspired. Also I am still struggling with the way that VW treat their customers with total disdain. I'm much more looking forward to your preview of the Volvo XC40 in October. That looks much more interesting. Also the Tesla model 3. Thank you again Thomas.
The hard plastic on the Dashboard is a shame. Since the Golf 3 there is a soft touch Dashboard. Even worse, the Ateca and the Karoq share a much better Interieur build quality. I have waited months for this review (as always, well done Thomas, I even try to write in English the first time for years), but a NEW VW which is obviously more cost sensitivly designed then my Qashqai is definitly not for me... But on the other hand it's making decisions easier for me: when my company leasing ends, it will be a Skoda Karoq. Maybe Skoda is the better VW.
Jan-Hendrik Müller the karoq is also hard plastic and the Seat Ateca too these cars are not luxury vehicles so they can be a bit cheap if you want luxury go for Audi
f181234 AJ in the Ateca review and Thomas in the Karoq both said that it's soft. As for the Ateca I can definitely agree because I have tested it nearly one month ago. In the lower part, all (even the premium ones) are made of hard plastics, but for me it's all about the top of the Dashboard.
Jan-Hendrik Müller still I doubt the average consumer will care if it's hard touch or not majority of people don't even touch it. For example if my parents were to buy a new car today they wouldn't care if it was hard plastic or soft they care more about the fuel efficiency
f181234 oh God, my English... but let me try: The feeling is in fact not what is important for me. It is all about the rattling noises. I once had a Nissan Note with a Dashbord with Softtouch in front and Hardplastic on top. The Softtouch was calm and quiet, the Hard part was rattling ALL the time and, in winter times, it even starts to squeak. It took me one year to get rid of it, and I told everybody : don't buy a car with hard plastics when there is a similar priced car which has soft plastic... you know it's also that VW starts to get cheap in build quality, and when it is such an obvious thing that everybody can see and feel, what about the parts in your car that you don't? Are you sure, that they do not save up in those parts which are important let's say in safety or rustproofing, where the customer just can NOT see or feel it? Another example: the Renault Captur of my wife makes noises from it's hard plastic Dashboard all the time, what has Renault done in the last Facelift (without any force)? Yes you name it: they have soften it up and for Renault this is not cheaper then it would be for VW. In a car such as the all new Seat Arona, the future Skoda Fabia SUV or a future Polo SUV (T Cross), it would all be fine and o.k. because theses are cheaper cars which have to challenge with other cheap cars, but the T Cross is (VW Statement) a Golf SUV and you really do not want to compare a Golf VII "Update" as they call it with what we have seen in the T Cross videos from Thomas and Brian... and nobody would ever know, if they charge 200 Euro more and made a better car!
I like the car very much. Problem is hard plastics. If they save money on this they should allow to pay extra for either soft or leatherette covered dash.
+Paolo Di Sano Thank you for taking interest in this very important topic! We have researched this issue for many years now so please take your time to go through our extensive resources stated below as they answer every single question we have yet received concerning this matter. At Autogefühl, we have already received several thousands (!) comments, messages and mails that more and more people want to combine enjoying their car with reducing the environmental impact at the same time. We believe that sustainable luxury is possible or at least we should do everything to support that. Those many thousand people confirming this trend, motivate us to give you the most authentic information and background on the product parts. It is not about what you bought in the past, and it is not about blaming anyone, it is about what you decide in the future and what you can decide and influence as a customer. So we want you to have all information that you need for a decision you later enjoy and like best yourself. In Summer 2017, Tesla motors has decided to be the first manufacturer to go all the way with sustainable seat materials, only offering fabric/cloth seats or leatherette seats in different colours. They have banned all real leather from the seating surface and at the steering wheel in the white trim or on demand. So Tesla shows where the industry will and must be heading, just like they went forward with electrification first. Check out our special video addressing car CEOs as a first summary and also see conditions of animal skin production: th-cam.com/video/LNSUzZXzpdc/w-d-xo.html List of practical reasons against animal skin seats: 1. animal skin seats are often sold as an expensive option, by going for base trim level seats you can save a lot of money and get a better price-performance-deal (often the manufacturers claim that animal leather is top of luxury because they can earn the best money with it) 2. animal skin seats get hot in summer and you stick to the seat, probably you need seat cooling 3. they get very cold in winter and you need seat heating 4. on cloth or microfibre surfaces, you basically don’t need seat heating nor cooling 5. animal skin seats wear out very fast and look like an old sofa 6. if you want leather look or need seats that can be wiped clean easier, the leatherette (faux leather) surfaces are meanwhile highly evolved and it is possible that it feels even softer and better than anything else (See our Tesla Model X review th-cam.com/video/y2wNGFKa4M0/w-d-xo.html) So Tesla shows a good example for that and as described, non-leather materials are now standard for ALL Tesla 7. More manufacturer names for their good alternatives: Mercedes MBTex/Artico for leatherette, Dinamica for microfibre. BMW Sensatec, Toyota Sof-Tex, Lexus Nu-Luxe (all faux leather) To the environmental reasons: 1. The way the cows and other intelligent and social animals are raised and held are not according to the basic values that we all share (also see videos below) 2. The factory farming industry can be accounted for at least 40 % of climate emissions and thus is (according to numerous sources you can look up) the number one reason for climate change and environmental destruction. It is the number one reason for deforestation, two thirds of all agricultural land on earth is used for growing animal food crops. If you would feed humans directly by using the agricultural land, you could produce much more food for everyone. See this interesting essay for more on climate emissions background: www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20and%20Climate%20Change.pdf 3. It is not only cows who are suffering, but also the environment and to a big part also humans. Think of slavery-like working conditions in slaughterhouses (there are plenty of documentaries about this) or think of chemically altered drinking water in animal skin production villages as also seen in the video footage. 4. The discussion, for which body part the cow is killed first, is very patronizing. But if you really think it would be important why someone gets killed in first place: There are many productions where the cow is killed for the skin first, sometimes even while still being (part-)alive, the skin is the most profitable single part of the body. 5. So even if a cow gets theoretically killed for meat first, in every case you give additional money to an industry that relies on killing, pollutes the environment and harms people with chemicals. Let's say you are standing at the meat counter. And you ask for the leg of the cow. The butcher tells you: "You can eat that without worrying, the cow was slaughtered for the neck first". The next customer demands the neck. The butcher tells him: "It's not your fault, the cow was slaughtered for the belly". A the next customer demands the hide, what answer does he get? You see, that argument of "byproduct" comes from the meat and leather industry to cover up that you contribute to killing no matter which part of the body you buy. 6. To the often said argument, animal skin would just be a byproduct, please google/youtube "leather is not a byproduct" you will find plenty of information. A good overview on all those issues can also be found here: adaptt.org/ To “But leatherette is not sustainable due to petrochemical production” 1. Indeed some fabrics and micro fibres are oil based, however most oil is spent on energy production, heating and fuel. The share of oil used for artificial cloth etc. is very very small. 2. If you look at the whole production process, the leatherette is way more sustainable than the leather produce. 3. The best to-come solution are indeed plant-based materials like Pinatex (based on pineapple leaves) or new materials based on mycelia (roots of mushrooms) or other innovative natural products. That’s the future. More special video episodes: 1. A initial special video from Autogefühl considering the use of leather can be found here: th-cam.com/video/8f91KgbVbJQ/w-d-xo.html 2. And another one right here: th-cam.com/video/tMNgcLE0LDU/w-d-xo.html 3. Furthermore, you’ll find the footage of leather production also here, where people are walking in chemicals etc. and animals have to watch their friends being slaughtered in front of their eyes: th-cam.com/video/JipYvuDsI6s/w-d-xo.html timecode starting 27:46 4. This is another video which very well summarizes the torture of leather production, shots taken at big farms which directly produce for the automotive industry: th-cam.com/video/OgHs239bAnE/w-d-xo.html 5. Please note that those videos are made by well-known journalists and cameramen who were not influenced by any animal welfare organisation, they supply their footage to the animal rights groups of course. I partly know the creators of the video footage personally and they are all authentic. You don’t have to search long to find cruel production environments anyway. Manufacturers reactions: We started the very first inquiry years ago, with the result that car manufacturers do not reveal their sources of animal skin AT ALL. If it all would be clean and happening without harm, why don’t they show it to us whereas they are showing us every other detail of their products? They have good reason not to, because there is no such thing as a clean animal skin production without harming cows, humans and the environment. The only thing a manufacturer can do is increase their effort for a better future, and we are helping with in-depth talks and interviews by presenting the increasing customer demand for sustainable luxury. Tesla was the first one to react in a major way now. So meanwhile, we more often also get feedback that a lot of manufacturers are working on leather-free interiors and are aware of the situation. E.g. Bentley, Mini and Kia have started vegan car interior programmes. Besides Tesla, Mercedes already shows major choices for sustainable interiors, you always have to pay attention to the details when ordering, of course - and we are happy to give advice. However, much has to be done still and the Autogefuehl community is massively helping in boosting the positive change! Help to raise awareness on this subject. Thanks!
Was going to buy the Tiguan, until they sent the mini-van version to North America instead of the original European smaller version. I'll get the Ford Edge instead.
Seems internal competition with the Q2. Why o why do manufacturers make so many different models? It must make things more expensive since the more you can produce from 1 specific model you don't have to invest in new machines, material and production lines. The new Polo looks really nice so why not make a Polo cross like they used to?
Watch the T-Roc driving review: th-cam.com/video/x4GAQMWoS6o/w-d-xo.html
Love this LED daytime running lights. Good looking elements
Wowwww I love the blue colour version 😘 the interior design looks goooood as well.
Thomas joins you again from car heaven =)
Stay tuned also to Brian's video from the world premiere: Also join Brian at the World Premiere: th-cam.com/video/8qkM3adVGCE/w-d-xo.html
Why you compare T-Roc with Ateca and Karoq? T-Roc is in the same category as Seat Arona. :-)
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If you look at the platform, it is like this:
MQB A0 - VW T-Cross, Seat Arona, Skoda Polar
MQB A1 - VW T-Roc, Seat Ateca, Skoda Karoq
MQB A2 - VW Tiguan, Seat (name tbc), Skoda Kodiaq
Autogefühl having so called unified platform is dissadvantage in my opinion. All cars look the same. Interior is almost identical: golf, passat, artheon, now t-rock etc. It is so boring. I have passat B8 and I tought it had its own style but it looks like all other VWs.
Thinking from the perspective of Autogefühl’s comments on platforms above. It really does not make financial sense to create separate platforms for each and every vehicle. Perhaps considering things from a brand perspective will help. Lots of manufactured products are made on so-called platforms e.g., all Apple products look familiar. If you like a brand’s aesthetics, then you choose it and start considering what your practical requirements are. I am, like yourself, a VW Passat (B8) owner and really enjoy my car, interior included. It is a VW and it suits my practical needs. If you do not like the VW aesthetic any more, then you could consider choosing a new car from within the VW group. The group provides a solid line up: SEAT, Audi, Porsche or another even more expensive brand. The car you choose might be, as a for instance, the Audi Q3, which is on the same platform as the VW Tiguan. All Audi's look similar, unless you consider the versions, but even then the so-called DNA is there throughout the brand and between generations. If you want a different platform and design, then you leave and move to completely new pastures i.e., Ford, Honda, Toyota, Mercedes Benz and so forth. There is plenty of choice.
The exterior color built into elements of the interior is a feature i would like to see in other vehicles too, looks really nice. Thank you for another awesome review/video! :)
I'm not really an SUV fan but I really like this. Excited to see the T-Cross as well.
Thank you. Excellent video analysis of a very PERFECT vehicle. My only opinion is regarding the knob for adjusting the back of the seat. Personally I love that about Volkswagens and any other manufacturer that uses it. I absolutely hate having four or five positions for the seat backs, and the knob gives you infinite adjustability. Well done!
always appreciated
Der allererste VW der mich wirklich anspricht! Ich bin 28 und fahre aktuell den aktuellen C-Coupé von MB. Mein nächstes Auto muss allerdings größer und familientauglicher sein. Und der T-Roc ist wirklich eine gut gelungene Überraschung für mich! Top!
Really love your videos, my favourite channel i follow.
great to have u with us!
Love your profesional and detailed reviews, never boring... thank you!
Some readers' comments should take into consideration that these are seen in different markets around the world.
thanks man !
I agree with Thomas, I think it will be a great sales success. It looks really good, a lot better than the Audi Q2, which I find really boring! I can see a lot of people upgrading their Golf to a T-Roc, and higher spec ones stealing sales from the Q2!
Car reviews seems awesome with that accent whoever does
Great to see the T-Roc review Thomas. Nice job! Looking forward to seeing the test drive. I too think that this car is going to be very successful. I like that they have preserved the main design elements of the original concept car. As manufacturing technology moves forward, more car makers appear enabled to do so. Looking at the car itself, the overall exterior and, particularly the light signatures, are very neat. The interior is very good looking as well, being still classically VW, but with a modern and personable design. Practically speaking, the car and it is boot size appear to be a good size.
thanks Richard !
it's a nice car, beautifull interior, it appears to me a little resemblence to the audi Q3 on the exterior, overall such a remarcable job, Thomas you'v nailed it as always, wish you the best Autogefuehl
+Kadri Fouaz 👍
versatile car, this small Tiguan. I regret that they will not offer the particle filtre on the petrol engines from the start. Thanks Thomas for the exellent presentation, I am looking forward to your driving review.
yeah that does come a little late, I think so too
Love the way it looks!
Brilliantly informative overview of the T-Roc Thomas. Look forward to seeing UK prices and trim levels when available. Could be a potential purchase later in the year :-)
Better looking than the Q2
Thomas you are the Bugatti' s of the vehicle reviwers
=)
23:46 When I see new great review from Thomas
Definitely like a seat adjuster knob, because it is very precise!
This will sell for sure. I think it will be a VW classic and one of it's biggest successes.
best review and make us understand vehicle completely
Feel free to spread the word
So then it's actually lower then my golf alltrack? How does it compare Thomas?
beautiful car!
beautiful review!
Amazing design...looks like a concept! Beautiful colour options as well..Really great new design language, with this, the new Arteon and the upcoming Touareg.
I just wonder how it looks with smaller wheels.
Another flawless presentation by Thomas! The car promises to be great, not too sure about the color coded interior theme, interesting idea, but is it really working in terms of quality and visual comfort?
thanks man!
Thank you! great video and super fast!
appreciated!
LOVE IT thank you vw , and autogefuhl MARCO
grazie!
Thanks for the Review Thomas. Nice car
Thanks 🙏
Amazing little SUV. Looking forward to see it selling in America
ChAbAr VW: "We haven't decided yet if we will sell it in America." That's how VW says "No." They will regret selling neither this nor the Q2 in America.
Wow! For me, the T-Roc is better than the Audi Q2! Not the interior quality, but the style! Well done Volkswagen and thanks Autogefühl for the video! ;)
thanks Steven stay tuned! Brian's review of the world premiere is about to launch :)
But the front facia, the the downward headlamp which line down with the grille, much like Honda Fit/Jazz.
Looks better than Audi Q2 I think. Clincher that will attract buyers is the color choices with the well designed/dash interior. I don't see any problem wiping off dirt/debris with the plastic flat top dash.
Fake exhaust.. again?, what the heck when all vehicles go electric or hydrogen it'll be the end of mufflers anyway.
Great video and review Thomas.
thanks pal!
Nice surprise this T-Roc ! Nice design with the last Arteon...VW on the right road ?
Good review like always!!
thanks !
awesome review! the t-roc looks nice!
appreciated!
Another great preview, thank you. I really like the look of this car. For me, the exterior is slightly better looking than my Peugeot 3008, but the interior doesn't come close. It is also just a bit too small for my needs. Other than that, I think it's a very attractive purchase. Thomas, you mentioned no hybrid, electric or CNG version which prompts me to ask: are there hidden environmental costs to electric cars that are not talked about? I've often wondered about the impact of mining the raw materials for the batteries, then the transportation costs in terms of pollution as well as pollution caused by the manufacture of the batteries. What are your thoughts?
yes this is an aspect that needs careful consideration. Basically there is an environmental problem with almost every raw material. It's sadly our system of economy which is boosting reckless profit on the costs of exploiting people and the environment. The whole oil production is surely a bigger issue though. It will be the challenge of the future to make the economy sustainable
+Autogefuhl - good comment, Thomas
It's more a Polo-SUV as a Golf-SUV. For example, the door-panels are the same as in the Polo - one part cheap hard plastic and a tiny part of cloth for the arm-rest. If it is a Golf-SUV the door-panel would have soft touch at the upper end and much more cloth in it, but the door-panels in an Audi Q2 are cheap too. Another example is the cheap version of the hood fastener.
Much better than the Q2
Thomas, On the 17 reg latest Tiguan they have changed the info-tainment screen to an all glass one and got rid of the knobs either side, which in turn makes the screen a bit larger.
Do you think the T-ROC will be changed to this when it hits the showrooms ?
Great job! I love these in depth previews of vehicles, shame it's not coming to America in a segment ripe for the taking
+devildrifterX 👌
Excellent work 👏
thanks keep joining us :)
It has the led daytime runninglights of the ford edge...
and it's grille. While at the rear it's the Peugeot 5008 kind of Chrome cross on the pillar.
It seems this car will compete with the Honda HRV and Subraru Crosstrek. If so, it should do well. The cars coming from the land of the rising sun are starting to look like spaceships from Manga comics (most notably the CRV and Lexus). Persuaded the girlfriend into buying a 2018 Tiguan (All Space in Europe) and she's glad she did. I appreciate the understatement of VW. In the long term, this design will grow on you and it'll stand up against the test of time. Less is more yo'.
the t roc despite being in a smaller segment even has more features and quality than the insanely priced evoque. even the interior size is similar
Not a huge fan of the rear plastic bumper. But other than that this is a really good looking VW !
Do you think they'll stop producing the Polo Cross? I don't think it has been mentioned when the Polo was launched.
In case I made a mistake with the engines, here again the complete list :-)
Benziner/Petrol
1.0 TSI
115 PS
1.5 TSI
150 PS
2.0 TSI
190 PS
Diesel
2.0 TDI
115 PS
2.0 TDI
150 PS
2.0 TDI
190 PS
Autogefühl I think you mean 1.5 TSI 150ps rather than 2.0 150ps
+JB argh gotta correct it
Autogefühl isn't it 1.6 TDI with 115 PS?
Thomas, you mentioned that middle engines (I am mostly concerned with 1.5 TSI Evo) will be available with 4Motion, but it contradicts what VW has unveiled so far on all EU markets. Are you able to confirm with VW if 1.5TSI will at some point be available with 4 wheel drive?
great review as always my german friend.
thanks todd!
Hi Thomas! another smart and high level presentation from you. One question: is it comparable with the SEAT ARONA?
thanks! The T-Roc is a little bigger/longer, it is between Arona and Ateca.
Compare those reviews:
th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=seat+arona+autogef%C3%BChl
th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=seat+ateca+autogef%C3%BChl
I disagree with the fact that the hard door panel and hard dashboard are cost saving measures.
If they were soft touch, why would you buy a Q2? For the badge? Not really.
The back is so much more beautiful than the q2. But I do prefer the interieur of the Audi. Would also have preferred it to a bit higher. But looks really good.
Very Nice !!!
I’m really interested in this car. Can’t wait to see it closely, however the hard plastics put me off though to be honest I own a Peugeot 207. It has a soft touch dashboard and hard plastics on side doors. They’re easy to clean and scratches are hardly visible. Curious to see it in person, thank you as always.
thanks! driving review coming up
It's awesome car! Really nice!
Very good review indeed.
appreciated!
VW needs fresh and notably cars! The T-Roc is the best answer to that👍 I really love the new design language of VW (e.g. new Arteon) 😍😍 I hope there will be a "R" or at least a "R-Line" package available very soon 😋
Very nice and great review Autogefühl. Might look into swap the Passat for this one.
thanks stick with us!
Hello,
Not sure how many times i watched some of your videos :).
Great work!
So went to test drive the t-roc and the Peugeot 3008.
I really like em both...
Searching for an advice as i can buy only one of them :D
Can u help ? Which one is the more reliable family car in the long run?
thanks! Well I cannot really say as both cars are pretty new. From the things we could test, both cars are for sure recommendable!
How many cm is the ground clearance?
Do you think they bring to the states?
Great review. Very cool watch ☺
+Emmanuel Kirton thx!
Hi! Das Problem bzgl. der Anzeige der Navikarte liegt wohl daran, das in dem vorgestelltem T-Roc das DiscoverMedia verbaut ist. Das DiscoverPro kann die Navikarte auf beiden Displays anzeigen. VG
I love your videos, thank you
thanks for watching!
But still, the volume knob logo doesn't stay upright when u turn it. Something they definately should fix. I hate it when it not always upright
The design is great,modern & stylish at the same time,especially from behind,compare this to some boring VW-designs like Bora-sedan and similar cars
Any idea if this suv will be sent to the dealers in the middle east region??
I think the qashqai does not need to worry. This car is just not...VW enough. The design is too generic(hide the badge and you would be hard pressed to guess the brand), the materials are not up to par with other VW products and except for the active info display and the infotainment system it has no real weapons to fight against the Nissan crossover. Anyway, great review, Thomas! Thanks
thanks for watching!
Love the turning knob for the wider range of backrest adjustments. However U.S. market in general doesn't like it.
Hopefully VW will change their decision and we will get this vehicle in our market. Currently Buick encore and chevy trax rule this segment.
Thanks for the great review.
thanks stick with us!
Hello Thomas! Very nice review as always.
But there is one small mistake about the engines at 9:26.
There will be the new 1.5 TSI with 150 PS. The 2.0 will have 190 PS.
Grüße aus Lübeck
Oh, didnt I say so? I got that in my notes, maybe I spoke out wrongly.
correct list:
Benziner
1.0 TSI
115 PS
2.0 TSI
150 PS
2.0 TSI
190 PS
Diesel
2.0 TDI
115 PS
2.0 TDI
150 PS
2.0 TDI
190 PS
Autogefühl Again, it's the 1.5 TSI 150 PS ;-)
The interior reminds me of the mk3 GTI "driver's Edition". Probably won't come to the US until they end the Tiguan Limited production. (And take out all the options to get it below 22,000 USD)
The highest trim level is SEL in the UK. The VW website states that SEL trim has App-Connect as standard implying that this feature is supplied already enabled but yet the Optional Extra for this trim seems to require the purchase of an Activation Document to enable this feature to work. So what is the correct situation? Does anyone know?
Nice review as always! Kannst du/könnt ihr auch mal in Zukunft die Blinker und Scheinwerfer, Nebelleuchten etc. zeigen? ich finde das ist erwähnenswert, in Zeiten der LED-Ausstattung :)
danke! Ich glaube wir haben einige Aufnahmen, wo man die Scheinwerfer sieht, oder?
Problem ist, dass sie häufig flimmern (kamera frame rate und shutter vs licht ...), aber wir schauen mal, dass wir das ausbauen in Zukunft!
Thanks for a very detailed preview, Thomas. The T-Roc is OK I suppose but, to my eyes, isn't especially inspired. Also I am still struggling with the way that VW treat their customers with total disdain. I'm much more looking forward to your preview of the Volvo XC40 in October. That looks much more interesting. Also the Tesla model 3. Thank you again Thomas.
Always appreciated!
The mirror caps/housing at 4:58 looks straight out of the Octavia parts bin.
Hab das Video noch nicht ganz gesehen,
Was kostet der und welche Benziner bzw Hybride gibt es?
Wird alles im Video beantwortet!
Soft or hard plastic on dash doesn't important for me. But hard materials work longer and it is harder to scratch them.
But they can be squeaky and rattly in a few years.
sic22l Actually it is about connection points and build quality.
Not only that, hard plastics are more prone to make noises because of tension, temperature change etc. And they're actually much easier to scratch.
Hey Thomas gr8 review!
Would be fun if u did a comparison of the Audi A4
thanks!
You ll find plenty of Audi A4 reviews here:
th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=audi+a4+autogefuehl
will it be sold to Canada ?
What is the ground clearance compared to competitors
What will the base headlights look like those leds look expensive
Great review thanks .
thanks, spread the word for us!
Good trunk size for the global lenth of the véhicle.
But The front has too much black plastic for me.
So... the front doors panel inserts are coloured but the rear ones aren't?
Sad !
drissistg it's no Audi it's a cheaper car based on the polo
Why are steering wheels not wheels anymore?
The hard plastic on the Dashboard is a shame. Since the Golf 3 there is a soft touch
Dashboard. Even worse, the Ateca and the Karoq share a much better Interieur build quality.
I have waited months for this review (as always, well done Thomas, I even try to write in English
the first time for years), but a NEW VW which is obviously more cost sensitivly designed then
my Qashqai is definitly not for me...
But on the other hand it's making decisions easier for me: when my company leasing ends, it
will be a Skoda Karoq. Maybe Skoda is the better VW.
Jan-Hendrik Müller the karoq is also hard plastic and the Seat Ateca too these cars are not luxury vehicles so they can be a bit cheap if you want luxury go for Audi
f181234 AJ in the Ateca review and Thomas in the Karoq both said that it's soft. As for the Ateca I can definitely agree because I have tested it nearly one month ago.
In the lower part, all (even the premium ones) are made of hard plastics, but for me it's all about the top of the Dashboard.
Jan-Hendrik Müller still I doubt the average consumer will care if it's hard touch or not majority of people don't even touch it. For example if my parents were to buy a new car today they wouldn't care if it was hard plastic or soft they care more about the fuel efficiency
f181234 oh God, my English... but let me try: The feeling is in fact not what is important for me.
It is all about the rattling noises. I once had a Nissan Note with a Dashbord with Softtouch in front
and Hardplastic on top. The Softtouch was calm and quiet, the Hard part was rattling
ALL the time and, in winter times, it even starts to squeak. It took me one year to get rid of it, and
I told everybody : don't buy a car with hard plastics when there is a similar priced car which has
soft plastic... you know it's also that VW starts to get cheap in build quality, and when it is such an
obvious thing that everybody can see and feel, what about the parts in your car that you don't?
Are you sure, that they do not save up in those parts which are important let's say in safety or
rustproofing, where the customer just can NOT see or feel it?
Another example: the Renault Captur of my wife makes noises from it's hard plastic Dashboard
all the time, what has Renault done in the last Facelift (without any force)? Yes you name it: they
have soften it up and for Renault this is not cheaper then it would be for VW.
In a car such as the all new Seat Arona, the future Skoda Fabia SUV or a future Polo SUV (T Cross),
it would all be fine and o.k. because theses are cheaper cars which have to challenge with other
cheap cars, but the T Cross is (VW Statement) a Golf SUV and you really do not want to compare
a Golf VII "Update" as they call it with what we have seen in the T Cross videos from Thomas
and Brian... and nobody would ever know, if they charge 200 Euro more and made a better car!
I like the car very much. Problem is hard plastics. If they save money on this they should allow to pay extra for either soft or leatherette covered dash.
the blue color on the interior trim seemed a bit different than the body color of the car, a little bit not as dark as the body paint.
Is a rear-view camera system available as an option? Doesn’t see it on German VW options list or mentioned on German VW website.
of course
Should see it in US in 2019!
All new cars look somehow similar lately. Maybe I am wrong. I don't know.
Will be leather interiors available? And doors and dashboard will be in hard plastic anyway?
+Paolo Di Sano i hope not
+Paolo Di Sano Thank you for taking interest in this very important topic!
We have researched this issue for many years now so please take your time to go through our extensive resources stated below as they answer every single question we have yet received concerning this matter.
At Autogefühl, we have already received several thousands (!) comments, messages and mails that more and more people want to combine enjoying their car with reducing the environmental impact at the same time. We believe that sustainable luxury is possible or at least we should do everything to support that. Those many thousand people confirming this trend, motivate us to give you the most authentic information and background on the product parts. It is not about what you bought in the past, and it is not about blaming anyone, it is about what you decide in the future and what you can decide and influence as a customer. So we want you to have all information that you need for a decision you later enjoy and like best yourself.
In Summer 2017, Tesla motors has decided to be the first manufacturer to go all the way with sustainable seat materials, only offering fabric/cloth seats or leatherette seats in different colours. They have banned all real leather from the seating surface and at the steering wheel in the white trim or on demand. So Tesla shows where the industry will and must be heading, just like they went forward with electrification first.
Check out our special video addressing car CEOs as a first summary and also see conditions of animal skin production:
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List of practical reasons against animal skin seats:
1. animal skin seats are often sold as an expensive option, by going for base trim level seats you can save a lot of money and get a better price-performance-deal (often the manufacturers claim that animal leather is top of luxury because they can earn the best money with it)
2. animal skin seats get hot in summer and you stick to the seat, probably you need seat cooling
3. they get very cold in winter and you need seat heating
4. on cloth or microfibre surfaces, you basically don’t need seat heating nor cooling
5. animal skin seats wear out very fast and look like an old sofa
6. if you want leather look or need seats that can be wiped clean easier, the leatherette (faux leather) surfaces are meanwhile highly evolved and it is possible that it feels even softer and better than anything else (See our Tesla Model X review th-cam.com/video/y2wNGFKa4M0/w-d-xo.html) So Tesla shows a good example for that and as described, non-leather materials are now standard for ALL Tesla
7. More manufacturer names for their good alternatives: Mercedes MBTex/Artico for leatherette, Dinamica for microfibre. BMW Sensatec, Toyota Sof-Tex, Lexus Nu-Luxe (all faux leather)
To the environmental reasons:
1. The way the cows and other intelligent and social animals are raised and held are not according to the basic values that we all share (also see videos below)
2. The factory farming industry can be accounted for at least 40 % of climate emissions and thus is (according to numerous sources you can look up) the number one reason for climate change and environmental destruction. It is the number one reason for deforestation, two thirds of all agricultural land on earth is used for growing animal food crops. If you would feed humans directly by using the agricultural land, you could produce much more food for everyone. See this interesting essay for more on climate emissions background: www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20and%20Climate%20Change.pdf
3. It is not only cows who are suffering, but also the environment and to a big part also humans. Think of slavery-like working conditions in slaughterhouses (there are plenty of documentaries about this) or think of chemically altered drinking water in animal skin production villages as also seen in the video footage.
4. The discussion, for which body part the cow is killed first, is very patronizing. But if you really think it would be important why someone gets killed in first place: There are many productions where the cow is killed for the skin first, sometimes even while still being (part-)alive, the skin is the most profitable single part of the body.
5. So even if a cow gets theoretically killed for meat first, in every case you give additional money to an industry that relies on killing, pollutes the environment and harms people with chemicals. Let's say you are standing at the meat counter. And you ask for the leg of the cow. The butcher tells you: "You can eat that without worrying, the cow was slaughtered for the neck first". The next customer demands the neck. The butcher tells him: "It's not your fault, the cow was slaughtered for the belly". A the next customer demands the hide, what answer does he get? You see, that argument of "byproduct" comes from the meat and leather industry to cover up that you contribute to killing no matter which part of the body you buy.
6. To the often said argument, animal skin would just be a byproduct, please google/youtube "leather is not a byproduct" you will find plenty of information. A good overview on all those issues can also be found here: adaptt.org/
To “But leatherette is not sustainable due to petrochemical production”
1. Indeed some fabrics and micro fibres are oil based, however most oil is spent on energy production, heating and fuel. The share of oil used for artificial cloth etc. is very very small.
2. If you look at the whole production process, the leatherette is way more sustainable than the leather produce.
3. The best to-come solution are indeed plant-based materials like Pinatex (based on pineapple leaves) or new materials based on mycelia (roots of mushrooms) or other innovative natural products. That’s the future.
More special video episodes:
1. A initial special video from Autogefühl considering the use of leather can be found here: th-cam.com/video/8f91KgbVbJQ/w-d-xo.html
2. And another one right here: th-cam.com/video/tMNgcLE0LDU/w-d-xo.html
3. Furthermore, you’ll find the footage of leather production also here, where people are walking in chemicals etc. and animals have to watch their friends being slaughtered in front of their eyes: th-cam.com/video/JipYvuDsI6s/w-d-xo.html
timecode starting 27:46
4. This is another video which very well summarizes the torture of leather production, shots taken at big farms which directly produce for the automotive industry: th-cam.com/video/OgHs239bAnE/w-d-xo.html
5. Please note that those videos are made by well-known journalists and cameramen who were not influenced by any animal welfare organisation, they supply their footage to the animal rights groups of course. I partly know the creators of the video footage personally and they are all authentic. You don’t have to search long to find cruel production environments anyway.
Manufacturers reactions:
We started the very first inquiry years ago, with the result that car manufacturers do not reveal their sources of animal skin AT ALL. If it all would be clean and happening without harm, why don’t they show it to us whereas they are showing us every other detail of their products? They have good reason not to, because there is no such thing as a clean animal skin production without harming cows, humans and the environment. The only thing a manufacturer can do is increase their effort for a better future, and we are helping with in-depth talks and interviews by presenting the increasing customer demand for sustainable luxury. Tesla was the first one to react in a major way now.
So meanwhile, we more often also get feedback that a lot of manufacturers are working on leather-free interiors and are aware of the situation. E.g. Bentley, Mini and Kia have started vegan car interior programmes. Besides Tesla, Mercedes already shows major choices for sustainable interiors, you always have to pay attention to the details when ordering, of course - and we are happy to give advice. However, much has to be done still and the Autogefuehl community is massively helping in boosting the positive change!
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Autogefühl you hope not that it's kept in plastic you mean? :) I would like to buy the car but I like leather seats...
+Paolo Di Sano hehe i would also like a leatherette dashboard. Consider our resources as for real leather and rethink :)
Was going to buy the Tiguan, until they sent the mini-van version to North America instead of the original European smaller version. I'll get the Ford Edge instead.
Seems internal competition with the Q2. Why o why do manufacturers make so many different models? It must make things more expensive since the more you can produce from 1 specific model you don't have to invest in new machines, material and production lines. The new Polo looks really nice so why not make a Polo cross like they used to?
Really neat thank you
does it have a cooled glovebox?
Maravilhoso , será que vem pro Brasil?
Why the fake exhaust, makes the car less aggressive
Which car should we compare the T-Roc with? I guess the competitor is Audi Q2 (?).
check the review FULL LENGTH m8 =) I m explaining everything.
Will there be an Plug-In-Hybrid oder Electric Version of the T-Roc??
All infos in the review!
Okay i will watch it fully in the weekend. :)