Bass fishing as a responsible sport has lost its way. It’s getting to the point where the average fisherman will not be able to catch of fish due to excessive tournaments and excessive ‘cheating’ fishing. It’s insane and will ruin the sport.
It's always been an rich man's sport. There are a handful of guys who have fewer resources but have dedicated every spare nickel to fish, but most tournament fishermen are fairly affluent to begin with. Bass boats have never been cheap.
@ correct, FFS just added to the financial barriers of entry if fishing professionally (no matter the level) is what someone is aspiring to do. It prices out the grassroots anglers and the kids similar to travel sports.
Tournament fishing is a joke. 75 mph blast off. Horrible rap country, new molly hatchett, new lynyrd skynyrd soundtrack, flash bombs at the weigh in, 6 graphs on 150k boat. Its worse than pro wrestling. I love to fish, but this new BS is stupid
Tournament fishing is a joke. 75 mph blast off. Horrible rap country, new molly hatchett, new lynyrd skynyrd soundtrack, flash bombs at the weigh in, 6 graphs on 150k boat. Its worse than pro wrestling. I love to fish, but this new BS is stupid. Worse than wake boarders ….. race in and cut you off. Bunch of dickheads
@@robertlewis3116 keep your limit every day even if you throw it in the trash.....like we did when we were little kids and we took home everything and that's what happened to most of it after we took a picture of it and sent it to Bassmaster Magazine maybe that's what we need to do again
One of the best feelings in the world is to take your accumulated knowledge, a few tips from older anglers, and the chance for what I know to produce a catch. I'm so grateful that this is my hobby, and not my job. If I ever lose my love for the experience as a whole...just throw me out the window, please.
@@marquistate5586 Who Randy? I doubt anyone over 60 could compete with the guys on top right now...that's just life. But on a lake with no purchased waypoints or live scope he'd at least have a chance. I watched Wheeler since he was a rookie. He used to outwork the rest of the field to win. He should be upset about FFS-it helped other guys cut in on his action.
I use to fish tournaments in my area. I ended up getting rid of my skeeter because of the disappointment of how much it cost to be able to try to keep up electrically. It's a shame ppl even have to use any sonar. I kayak fish now for that reason. I enjoy the hunt and digging into my knowledge to find the fish. That is true joy!
I’ve said this before and I will say it again, this is an overlapping issue with society in general. Anyway, that we can make our lives easier, we gravitate towards. The issue with that is it diminishes the value of things. In this example forward facing sonar technology has taken away to art of fishing and the pursuit of learning patterns of fish behavior in an effort to catch them. Really sad
It's so hard to do what I'm about to say but I think somebody should start an Elite Purist Bass tournament organization. Where the payouts are even greater than the livescope, training wheel, umbilical cord. cheater box bass harvesting events. Get back to real "fishing"not just "catching"
Would you make a cast if you knew there were no fish in that spot? My guess is that Randy's channel has done better since the FFS debate, So, to promote income, that's what he's going to talk about as long as he can stir the pot and benefit from it. He will. He should thank garmin for the topic that gets people to watch him. It's marketing for him.
Although I agree with the silliness of forward facing sonar, I think what we don’t realize and is actually the bigger picture, is that MLF and BASS are just like a lot of companies, currently and in the future, that are facing total shut down if they don’t make changes. I think they are just scrambling to make decisions just to stay in business 🤷♂️
This. I agree, and i grew up watching the bassmasters show. Loved it. Even had the trading cards. But now, all this along with the technology has gotten way overboard. Its not interesting to watch, and it ruins it for everyone else. I wouldn’t shed a tear if they shut it all down.
It's sad, Ran. I appreciate you so much for fighting the good fight. It seems we are all screwed and our kids wont be able to find a dang fish. Really upsetting stuff.
The reason I started tournament fishing was because I was amazed at how the pros could figure out how to pattern fish under any conditions. I wanted the challenge of seeing how well I could do. With FFS all that mystery excitement and skill development means nothing. I don’t even watch the sh@t anymore!
I think FFS is here to stay simply because almost all anti live scope fisherman STILL DECIDED TO FISH IN FFS TOURNAMENTS. If you are anti FFS, you cannot go out and support tournaments that use FFS. You cant swim in a dirty pool and then condemn the owner of the pool. People will only follow and respect the anti FFS activist if they walk the walk to back up the talk.
Really enjoy listening to you sharing your fishing expertise. Let it go, let forward facing alone. There is too much money involved and an important part of the purses you fish for. Either embrace what is allowed and hope it gets addressed the way you want or quit. Good fishing
Matt Stefan put out some videos about the team format tournaments where they don't tell you where you're going to fish. You just show up, and they take you there. That's real fishing to me. I say, you get 10 rods and a Kastking Hawg with whatever you can fit in it. If the water is muddy and you don't have the right colors, you better just throw the brightest thing you have and deal with it. Doesn't have to be a team thing. But that format will show who's really good. Worst case scenario, let them scope in practice and turn it off for the real thing.
I don’t agree with ffs but you can’t get mad at or shame the anglers who tournament fish for a profession. It’s not their fault that they need to exploit the technology to be able to stay competitive in the sport. Shame the organizations for not putting a stop to it but it is not the anglers fault
Randy, I 100% agree with you. Since you started raising this issue seriously about a year ago, I've been paying close attention. It’s a disgrace to anglers in their 40s, 50s, 60s, and even 70s, who are getting blown away in tournaments by guys who are technically anglers, but are essentially just stealing their money. The organizations are to blame, as they are turning the sport into a high-tech, high-income super sport. The bottom line is that the majority of anglers need to start filing complaints with their state’s DEC or environmental groups. At some point, tournament fishing in its current form will need to stop, especially as technology and electronics continue to advance. You're absolutely right-this situation is an insult to true anglers who still value sportsmanship. I mean, electronics have always been a part of bass fishing tournaments, but they've always been assistive tools-not the entire game. You’d get some feedback, but it was still a rough, instinctive sport. Now, there's no room for instinct. You can just rely on electronics to tell you where the fish are, removing the challenge altogether. The key to fishing used to be starting with a rod and reel, a map, and figuring out where the fish should be. You’d use your lures to find them. Now, it’s about scanning the lake, finding fish, and dropping a lure right on their heads. yThat’s the kind of thing that could eventually get the sport banned, so don’t be surprised if environmental groups start speaking out about it. Oops, guess I let the cat out of the bag! 😁 This keeps everything intact while removing the specific mention of 5:15. Let me know if you'd like further tweaks!
Im in my 30s and it sucks I purchased my first boat 7 years ago and dedicated as much time as I could to learn how to fish patters ect. The FFS came out and it put me in a situation to join in or get left behind and it's expensive to even have one graph in front. Its definitely levels the playing field which I think is not fair.
My "boat" is in my pic, complete with Hook2 4x from Lowrance. I'll out fish anyone on my local lake on any day, IF they are using FFS & livescope. High land reservoir with water over 200 ft deep. You'll be chasing stripers on that screen all day while I'm pulling largies. 😊
This whole topic has become very annoying. I have fished tournaments since 1987 and last year was my last. I used to really look forward to the tournaments because I enjoyed the atmosphere of the event. That has gone away sadly. I just fish for fun and relaxation now and enjoy it much more.
I stopped watching B.A.S.S. and MLF tournaments last season. It's way too boring to watch pro anglers, stare down at FFS screens and catch bass after baas on a tiny FFS minnow bait. There is no longer any excitement in pro bass tournaments. Pro bass tournaments are now like shooting fish in a barrel, just way to easy!
Thanks Randy for your video. I am 72 and fish out of a 1985 Rajun Cajun with a 150 Mercury and a used 24 VDC Minn Kota trolling along with used 9” Lowrance depth finders. Yes this old rig can get me to the fish and I catch fish, what more do we need. FYI, I sold a $60,000 Skeeter and banked the savings.
also, I have been bass fishing 25 years at least and get asked all the time of I do tournamemts. Never entered one, I think its one of the worst things for the actual fisherman as it takes away from the relaxation and adds stress.
Live scope is going to kill the participation of co-anglers in the BFL's, eventually there will be No co-anglers. This was expressed by many of the co-anglers at a recent BFL regional.
It's getting ridiculous for us bank fishermen too! I need a cargo chopper to air lift the generators, electronics and batteries around the lake with me. Special rafts to float electronics out into the water, and it's really hard to find a Sherpas in the Midwest. I can carry the tackle in my pocket and only need two rods, but I have to pay security personnel to stop thieves and other anglers from kicking my rear for intruding on their fishing spots. Avoiding the permits to land in state parks is really running the bill up! This has to stop...
If its as Terrible as Randy says it is, and all his buddies agree; why in the name of Sam Hill (no relation) won’t all these Pro’s get together & threaten to boycott? If that doesn’t move the needle, I don’t know what will
Drones with be used with HD cameras to locate bedding bass during the spawn along with the cheater boxes. Talk about ruining the sport!!! It's a damn shame how it's turned into a money game. I totally gave up tournaments and have no desire to fish them.
I hope NPFL starts televising tournaments I have all the old bass masters classics and a bunch of tournaments from the 90s to early 2000s saved on my I pad but IAM ready to see some new blood show these scope a dopes what’s up
I 100% agree personally I'm priced out of that stuff but I don't care because I don't want it. I have a depth finder on my boat. I love fishing and fish guntersville lake regularly.
Livescope and fish tournaments is ruining fishing for many. I have it, had it for years, but do not use it much anymore. I like just fishing and using what I know in my head.
I love the bass fish! I’ve fished tournaments for over three decades as well. There is no place for Ford facing sonar in tournament fishing. There is no condition under which Ford facing sonar should be allowed in tournaments at all. I’m not against the technology. I believe that there is an issue of Fairchase and I’m sure it is fun to use, however, there needs to be some regulation in place if it is being used that no fish caught using for facing Soner can be kept whether for tournaments or to eat.
In major tournaments you have two days of practice and three days of actual fishing .cut the days down to one practice and two actual tournaments days. You can see if these spring tournaments are held during the spawn how much it impacts our fisheries.
It's all about the money Randy. All about the money. Just like everything around us company's, clubs, people will fold against what's rite for there financial status.
It’s all about the $. Would be interesting to see how much the electronics companies pay MLF and BASS organizations. If the makers of the Alabama rigs had paid enough they would still be legal in tournaments.
I think it is a liability issue is why they canceled that rule. In case there is an accident. The first thing that will be said is the boat was MLF legal. Anytime you put something in your line of site whether a trolling motor a graph a pedestal seat it blocks your line of vision and I just don’t think they want to get involved with that.
Competitive fishing emphasizes speed and quantity over relaxation and conservation, contrasting with what casual fishers value. Something like live scope was inevitable.
Everybody here knows about telephoning fish. It's band. Turning fishing into a competition should be banned commercial fishing equipment should not be allowed on our public lakes it seems like common sense just doesn't exist
in time the Division of Marine fisheries, or local DNR, could potentially change the creel limit to less than five keepers per day. Tourneys orgs should prepare for this and do what the kayak tourneys are doing. Measure, record, release! Make it illegal to transport live fish. Edited: I wanted to add this obvious fact. Measure, record, release poses its own controversy due to the same fish being caught twice by the same angler, or by separate anglers. There’s a fine line there too.
Some were getting their brand new factory rigged Phoenix boats delivered with dual 12" graphs at the console, which has become today's standard, only to find out they weren't legal to fish the BFLs, because they were an inch too high. That's ridiculous and I understand their frustration, and letting MLF know about it. Randy, have you considered fishing the NPFL where FFS isn't allowed?
I don't have any electronics and fish on a 17 ft boat and have managed to compete with the locals with livescope in tournaments this past year i am not against livescope or electronics I just enjoy fishing old school!! WHY SHAME ANYBODY? IF THEY ENJOY LOOKING AT A SCREEN LET THEM DO IT I THINK YOU CRY ABOUT IT A BIT MUCH ..but I see your point and there's as well
You nailed it. Because, majority of the whiners don't even know what the hell a flasher is and don't care to know. Start a new tournament series without all this non-sense!
I went on my first bass fishing guided trip at Grand Lake in Oklahoma, and the guy had just gotten a new boat. So he didn't have his forward facing sonar, and he kept telling me the whole time if he had his ffs, we would be catching them, and this was an old seasoned pro, not a young guy.
FFS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN HAVING THE INTERNET , not gonna stop it when it gets here , manufacturers controls , comes down to its all about the money . Can’t have a little without taking it all .
Sounds like they listened to their customers (aka the anglers), something that you have preached in video, after video. Whether you, or I agree with it or not. Good thing is they have the NPFL for those that want to fish a circuit that doesn't allow the advances in technology in bass fishing.
Come on you know it's all about money, not preserving our outdoors.. I think it's a disgrace to fisherman.. Now anyone who truly never even put anytime in fishing can jump in a boat and play there online game and catch fish without any knowledge of fishing.. It's garbage and the reason i will no longer watch or support the organization..
went to mlf to let them know what i thought. even on their home page they have pics of fisherman staring at their shit box's. so pathetic! its pathetic that a pro tour lets those guys use those. unbelievable! MLF and all its fisherman should be ashamed of themselves!
How about the guy in a jon boat on a pond or small.lake with a fly rod and Lefty's Deceiver. He catches bass, yellow perch and picker. Now that's old time fishing but it's Real fishing!
It’s all about the money, Humminbird, Lowrance, Garmin are making millions on this frenzy and that’s what is driving this movement. Tournament angler’s are concerned with a paycheck and nothing else, whatever will give them an edge. The weekend anglers that want to go out with their grandkids and teach them how to fish get lost in the mix because every weekend a large lake has so many boats in tournaments that the basic fishing skills and tradition the suffers. Tournaments and advanced electronics have greatly diminished the sport and the tradition.
So now we are supposed to shame people for working their butts off to go pro ,just because they have FFS? This is a joke just because you have FFS doesn’t mean you can catch them using it.
I agree with you. But that being said. Its where the money is coming from. These electronics are expensive and the companies that sell them. Want them in the Big tournaments. So that average angler feels they need them. It's that simple.
What a complete JOKE. Regardless if you’re for or against FFS……could you imagine trying to make a living being a professional angler, and the stupid organization is so wishy washy that they can’t get their act together???? I’d be embarrassed
I say do away with ALL electronics. No FFS, no 2d, no mapping, no computers on engines, go back to pull start motors, take away all pc’s, cars back to the 40’s, no cell phones, to hell with going forward lets go back to the 30’s and 40’s.
It is not about they can’t…they refuse. They think we are the warp ones that are stupid for “guessing” where fish are. They like catching…not fishing…limited guessing
Start a new league or series where it's back to the basics that you talk about. Since the bait companies are losing revenue due to ffs they should be happy to endorse, sponsor and fund a whole new thing! Call it "The Honor and Integrity Series."
Yeah Im over it roo. Bass Fishing has blown up. Ive dropped all my memberships and have reduced taxkle purchases by 80% this year as old habits die hard...Im running for Congress with the extra money and looking for everyone daughters.
I stopped watching MLF or any tournament where FFS is allowed. Loss of viewership for these tournaments may change the rules. Is this the new definition of "fair chase"?
Good morning Randy. I just wanted to let you know why I unsubscribed to your channel. I’m not a hater. I enjoy your content when you are talking about fishing and teaching. But your constant going on about what you feel is ruining bass fishing is to much for me. I am sure you are right with your view points in fact I agree with you for the most part. But enough is enough. We know how you feel. It’s your channel so do what you like. I just wanted to let you know why I left.
same here, I don't watch or follow any of this shit and even tho i can understand being mad at the rules and what not it just seems like he's lost his marbles to the outsider looking in, I found this channel because of the great tip and jerkbait stuff and want more of that real fishing he keeps talking about, so maybe a focus on that please!
That's not the reason they reversed the rule. The rule was 24 inches from seat to top of screen. I could have a 3 inch screen and been illegal because I have a gambler. They reversed the rule because it was a bad rule to begin with.
I'm with you Randy..the umbilical cord commit was hysterical😂😂
Bass fishing as a responsible sport has lost its way. It’s getting to the point where the average fisherman will not be able to catch of fish due to excessive tournaments and excessive ‘cheating’ fishing. It’s insane and will ruin the sport.
You gotta be kidding me..WOW
@@jeffschoenbauer1487 just start eating them Bass are very good to eat
Its a rich man sport, skills will no longer be necessary to fish as a pro.
It's always been an rich man's sport. There are a handful of guys who have fewer resources but have dedicated every spare nickel to fish, but most tournament fishermen are fairly affluent to begin with. Bass boats have never been cheap.
@ correct, FFS just added to the financial barriers of entry if fishing professionally (no matter the level) is what someone is aspiring to do. It prices out the grassroots anglers and the kids similar to travel sports.
@@lxvebassin2179 how did the $1500 transducer play into a sport with $110K bass boats and $80K trucks?
This is why Bass went from Casting kids to college kids,one has more money than the other.
I fish a couple times a week. I HATE fishing tournaments.
I am getting there and Ill fish a tournament on occasion. It has turned into too much of a money contest.
Hell I’m so disgusted at this point I haven’t wet a hook since may 2023 .
I have lost my desire to even fish.
Then you're at the right place! ;)
Tournament fishing is a joke. 75 mph blast off. Horrible rap country, new molly hatchett, new lynyrd skynyrd soundtrack, flash bombs at the weigh in, 6 graphs on 150k boat. Its worse than pro wrestling. I love to fish, but this new BS is stupid
Tournament fishing is a joke. 75 mph blast off. Horrible rap country, new molly hatchett, new lynyrd skynyrd soundtrack, flash bombs at the weigh in, 6 graphs on 150k boat. Its worse than pro wrestling. I love to fish, but this new BS is stupid. Worse than wake boarders ….. race in and cut you off. Bunch of dickheads
What happened to going fishing in hopes of catching a few fish and enjoying nature and just life itself?
That ship has sailed
Maybe for those lost souls but not for me.
Nothing happened to it. Go right ahead and do that. You won't bother the people with better technology at all.
@@wahoohoo6864people who need tech to fish, really just suck at fishing , period.
@@robertlewis3116 keep your limit every day even if you throw it in the trash.....like we did when we were little kids and we took home everything and that's what happened to most of it after we took a picture of it and sent it to Bassmaster Magazine maybe that's what we need to do again
I think that tournaments should be suspended for atleast 1 or 2 years .This is insane . All about Money. Makes me sick
If they took the big money out of it. Then you would witness the fisherman that love the sport. And not for the money.
How about an indefinite suspension ...
In related news, Major League Fishing is changing its name to Major League Catching.
Catching dinks!!!
I thought it was Mostly Little Fish
One of the best feelings in the world is to take your accumulated knowledge, a few tips from older anglers, and the chance for what I know to produce a catch. I'm so grateful that this is my hobby, and not my job. If I ever lose my love for the experience as a whole...just throw me out the window, please.
Wheeler and Connell probably cried to daddy Boyd.
damn bro I smell a lot of hate.
Wheeler been winning way before scope
@@guyfoscone3193 I bet he couldn't win the first tournament even with all new technology Wheeler has 🤣😂
wheeler knows how to fish other then scope
@@marquistate5586 Who Randy? I doubt anyone over 60 could compete with the guys on top right now...that's just life. But on a lake with no purchased waypoints or live scope he'd at least have a chance. I watched Wheeler since he was a rookie. He used to outwork the rest of the field to win. He should be upset about FFS-it helped other guys cut in on his action.
I use to fish tournaments in my area. I ended up getting rid of my skeeter because of the disappointment of how much it cost to be able to try to keep up electrically. It's a shame ppl even have to use any sonar. I kayak fish now for that reason. I enjoy the hunt and digging into my knowledge to find the fish. That is true joy!
Same here
Same here.
I’ve quit tournament fishing since FFS. Until it’s canceled I’ll just fish for the love of fishing.
Same
No wonder NPFL is getting more and more Pro fisherman. MFL and Bassmaster has destroyed what a true fisherman really is suppose to be.
They arent even close to a full field last i checked
@@northernbassalliance1442 You're right and they will fold pretty quick as well.
I’ve said this before and I will say it again, this is an overlapping issue with society in general. Anyway, that we can make our lives easier, we gravitate towards.
The issue with that is it diminishes the value of things. In this example forward facing sonar technology has taken away to art of fishing and the pursuit of learning patterns of fish behavior in an effort to catch them.
Really sad
It's so hard to do what I'm about to say but I think somebody should start an Elite Purist Bass tournament organization. Where the payouts are even greater than the livescope, training wheel, umbilical cord. cheater box bass harvesting events. Get back to real "fishing"not just "catching"
@ couldn’t agree more
Yes, it is very sad. I’m proud to take the road less traveled. The more effort I put into something, the more I get out of it.
Well said and Pure Truth
Follow the money ……….
Boycott watching any and all of these tournaments if they allow CHEATING
It will boycott itself, no one wants to watch a bunch of guys staring at their screens all day.
Fishing tournaments should be stopped completely.
I think the small local club tournaments are ok but all these different trails are way overboard and are damaging a public resource.
I agree 100% Randy. "What happened to actually FISHING find fish?" That statement really hit home with what I think of all this.
MFGA! Make fishing great again!
maga fools go away...🤣
Would you make a cast if you knew there were no fish in that spot? My guess is that Randy's channel has done better since the FFS debate, So, to promote income, that's what he's going to talk about as long as he can stir the pot and benefit from it. He will. He should thank garmin for the topic that gets people to watch him. It's marketing for him.
I fish for fun from my kayak and i absolutely love every second of it. Tournaments are whats ruined fisheries. Period.
Thank you very much for the video sir
Although I agree with the silliness of forward facing sonar, I think what we don’t realize and is actually the bigger picture, is that MLF and BASS are just like a lot of companies, currently and in the future, that are facing total shut down if they don’t make changes. I think they are just scrambling to make decisions just to stay in business 🤷♂️
Tournament fishing needs to be banned. It's commercialized fishing for profit, and is responsible for the decline in a lot of fisheries.
No it’s not
This. I agree, and i grew up watching the bassmasters show. Loved it. Even had the trading cards. But now, all this along with the technology has gotten way overboard. Its not interesting to watch, and it ruins it for everyone else. I wouldn’t shed a tear if they shut it all down.
it's gambling, plain and simpe
@@FishinwithGRAMPSso is everything sports related, this planet and human race doesn’t need sports period. It’s a joke
@@FishinwithGRAMPSIt’s not gambling with facts involved.
You and I, Randy, are in complete agreement on this issue.
It's sad, Ran. I appreciate you so much for fighting the good fight. It seems we are all screwed and our kids wont be able to find a dang fish. Really upsetting stuff.
Based on the amount of fish being caught it looks like fishing is in great shape
The reason I started tournament fishing was because I was amazed at how the pros could figure out how to pattern fish under any conditions. I wanted the challenge of seeing how well I could do. With FFS all that mystery excitement and skill development means nothing. I don’t even watch the sh@t anymore!
I won’t be watching ! Not until the cheater box is gone!
I think FFS is here to stay simply because almost all anti live scope fisherman STILL DECIDED TO FISH IN FFS TOURNAMENTS. If you are anti FFS, you cannot go out and support tournaments that use FFS. You cant swim in a dirty pool and then condemn the owner of the pool. People will only follow and respect the anti FFS activist if they walk the walk to back up the talk.
Really enjoy listening to you sharing your fishing expertise. Let it go, let forward facing alone. There is too much money involved and an important part of the purses you fish for. Either embrace what is allowed and hope it gets addressed the way you want or quit. Good fishing
Matt Stefan put out some videos about the team format tournaments where they don't tell you where you're going to fish. You just show up, and they take you there. That's real fishing to me. I say, you get 10 rods and a Kastking Hawg with whatever you can fit in it. If the water is muddy and you don't have the right colors, you better just throw the brightest thing you have and deal with it. Doesn't have to be a team thing. But that format will show who's really good. Worst case scenario, let them scope in practice and turn it off for the real thing.
I don’t agree with ffs but you can’t get mad at or shame the anglers who tournament fish for a profession. It’s not their fault that they need to exploit the technology to be able to stay competitive in the sport. Shame the organizations for not putting a stop to it but it is not the anglers fault
Tournament fishing needs banned at this point
Randy, I 100% agree with you. Since you started raising this issue seriously about a year ago, I've been paying close attention. It’s a disgrace to anglers in their 40s, 50s, 60s, and even 70s, who are getting blown away in tournaments by guys who are technically anglers, but are essentially just stealing their money. The organizations are to blame, as they are turning the sport into a high-tech, high-income super sport.
The bottom line is that the majority of anglers need to start filing complaints with their state’s DEC or environmental groups. At some point, tournament fishing in its current form will need to stop, especially as technology and electronics continue to advance. You're absolutely right-this situation is an insult to true anglers who still value sportsmanship.
I mean, electronics have always been a part of bass fishing tournaments, but they've always been assistive tools-not the entire game. You’d get some feedback, but it was still a rough, instinctive sport. Now, there's no room for instinct. You can just rely on electronics to tell you where the fish are, removing the challenge altogether.
The key to fishing used to be starting with a rod and reel, a map, and figuring out where the fish should be. You’d use your lures to find them. Now, it’s about scanning the lake, finding fish, and dropping a lure right on their heads.
yThat’s the kind of thing that could eventually get the sport banned, so don’t be surprised if environmental groups start speaking out about it. Oops, guess I let the cat out of the bag! 😁
This keeps everything intact while removing the specific mention of 5:15. Let me know if you'd like further tweaks!
Im in my 30s and it sucks I purchased my first boat 7 years ago and dedicated as much time as I could to learn how to fish patters ect. The FFS came out and it put me in a situation to join in or get left behind and it's expensive to even have one graph in front. Its definitely levels the playing field which I think is not fair.
My "boat" is in my pic, complete with Hook2 4x from Lowrance. I'll out fish anyone on my local lake on any day, IF they are using FFS & livescope. High land reservoir with water over 200 ft deep. You'll be chasing stripers on that screen all day while I'm pulling largies. 😊
Got the same Hook2 4x on my kayak as well! Love that unit.
This whole topic has become very annoying. I have fished tournaments since 1987 and last year was my last. I used to really look forward to the tournaments because I enjoyed the atmosphere of the event. That has gone away sadly. I just fish for fun and relaxation now and enjoy it much more.
I stopped watching B.A.S.S. and MLF tournaments last season. It's way too boring to watch pro anglers, stare down at FFS screens and catch bass after baas on a tiny FFS minnow bait. There is no longer any excitement in pro bass tournaments. Pro bass tournaments are now like shooting fish in a barrel, just way to easy!
Thanks Randy for your video.
I am 72 and fish out of a 1985 Rajun Cajun with a 150 Mercury and a used 24 VDC Minn Kota trolling along with used 9” Lowrance depth finders.
Yes this old rig can get me to the fish and I catch fish, what more do we need.
FYI, I sold a $60,000 Skeeter and banked the savings.
Need to cancel all this crap. Cheater box bs
at some point they will be wearing goggles that have the imaging in the lense and show them everything you would see on the screen
also, I have been bass fishing 25 years at least and get asked all the time of I do tournamemts. Never entered one, I think its one of the worst things for the actual fisherman as it takes away from the relaxation and adds stress.
Sadly, it probably already exists and just hasn't been released yet. This is such a travesty.
Live scope is going to kill the participation of co-anglers in the BFL's, eventually there will be No co-anglers. This was expressed by many of the co-anglers at a recent BFL regional.
Randy it’s just like guys going to the gym but only if they have steroids
Ban tournament fishing!
It's getting ridiculous for us bank fishermen too! I need a cargo chopper to air lift the generators, electronics and batteries around the lake with me. Special rafts to float electronics out into the water, and it's really hard to find a Sherpas in the Midwest. I can carry the tackle in my pocket and only need two rods, but I have to pay security personnel to stop thieves and other anglers from kicking my rear for intruding on their fishing spots. Avoiding the permits to land in state parks is really running the bill up! This has to stop...
If its as Terrible as Randy says it is, and all his buddies agree; why in the name of Sam Hill (no relation) won’t all these Pro’s get together & threaten to boycott? If that doesn’t move the needle, I don’t know what will
Drones with be used with HD cameras to locate bedding bass during the spawn along with the cheater boxes. Talk about ruining the sport!!! It's a damn shame how it's turned into a money game. I totally gave up tournaments and have no desire to fish them.
I hope NPFL starts televising tournaments I have all the old bass masters classics and a bunch of tournaments from the 90s to early 2000s saved on my I pad but IAM ready to see some new blood show these scope a dopes what’s up
I 100% agree personally I'm priced out of that stuff but I don't care because I don't want it. I have a depth finder on my boat. I love fishing and fish guntersville lake regularly.
Livescope and fish tournaments is ruining fishing for many. I have it, had it for years, but do not use it much anymore. I like just fishing and using what I know in my head.
There is a whole lot more to fishing than catching for me. 👍
I love the bass fish! I’ve fished tournaments for over three decades as well. There is no place for Ford facing sonar in tournament fishing. There is no condition under which Ford facing sonar should be allowed in tournaments at all. I’m not against the technology. I believe that there is an issue of Fairchase and I’m sure it is fun to use, however, there needs to be some regulation in place if it is being used that no fish caught using for facing Soner can be kept whether for tournaments or to eat.
Randy you should set up a podcast studio and start having guests on. Perfect first guest would be someone from the Humminbird or Lowrance
LOVING the hat!!! 🤠 Cool shades 😎 and Loving the Mobile office👍
Them kids these days can’t do it old school. They got not only daddy’s money but, they got mom’s money to. Sad they can’t do the traditional way.
In major tournaments you have two days of practice and three days of actual fishing .cut the days down to one practice and two actual tournaments days.
You can see if these spring tournaments are held during the spawn how much it impacts our fisheries.
I’m going to need to keep my GPS or I ain’t going to be able to get home
It's all about the money Randy. All about the money. Just like everything around us company's, clubs, people will fold against what's rite for there financial status.
Im pro unlimited livescope but i love the umbilical cord reference! 😂😅
It’s all about the $. Would be interesting to see how much the electronics companies pay MLF and BASS organizations. If the makers of the Alabama rigs had paid enough they would still be legal in tournaments.
I think it is a liability issue is why they canceled that rule. In case there is an accident. The first thing that will be said is the boat was MLF legal. Anytime you put something in your line of site whether a trolling motor a graph a pedestal seat it blocks your line of vision and I just don’t think they want to get involved with that.
NPFL !!!!!
Competitive fishing emphasizes speed and quantity over relaxation and conservation, contrasting with what casual fishers value. Something like live scope was inevitable.
Everybody here knows about telephoning fish. It's band. Turning fishing into a competition should be banned commercial fishing equipment should not be allowed on our public lakes it seems like common sense just doesn't exist
I been told you that Randy. They don't like fishing. So quit being so easy on them.
So glad the ratings have dropped
in time the Division of Marine fisheries, or local DNR, could potentially change the creel limit to less than five keepers per day. Tourneys orgs should prepare for this and do what the kayak tourneys are doing. Measure, record, release! Make it illegal to transport live fish.
Edited: I wanted to add this obvious fact. Measure, record, release poses its own controversy due to the same fish being caught twice by the same angler, or by separate anglers. There’s a fine line there too.
Some were getting their brand new factory rigged Phoenix boats delivered with dual 12" graphs at the console, which has become today's standard, only to find out they weren't legal to fish the BFLs, because they were an inch too high. That's ridiculous and I understand their frustration, and letting MLF know about it.
Randy, have you considered fishing the NPFL where FFS isn't allowed?
I don't have any electronics and fish on a 17 ft boat and have managed to compete with the locals with livescope in tournaments this past year i am not against livescope or electronics I just enjoy fishing old school!! WHY SHAME ANYBODY? IF THEY ENJOY LOOKING AT A SCREEN LET THEM DO IT I THINK YOU CRY ABOUT IT A BIT MUCH ..but I see your point and there's as well
You nailed it. Because, majority of the whiners don't even know what the hell a flasher is and don't care to know. Start a new tournament series without all this non-sense!
I went on my first bass fishing guided trip at Grand Lake in Oklahoma, and the guy had just gotten a new boat. So he didn't have his forward facing sonar, and he kept telling me the whole time if he had his ffs, we would be catching them, and this was an old seasoned pro, not a young guy.
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lol what a guide
FFS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN HAVING THE INTERNET , not gonna stop it when it gets here , manufacturers controls , comes down to its all about the money . Can’t have a little without taking it all .
Hardest part of fishing is finding the fish, once you find the fish everything becomes easier, get rid of ffs.
Sounds like they listened to their customers (aka the anglers), something that you have preached in video, after video. Whether you, or I agree with it or not. Good thing is they have the NPFL for those that want to fish a circuit that doesn't allow the advances in technology in bass fishing.
No Randy doesn’t want everyone banging the banks if you want to fish offshore learn to do it like David Fritz did
Exactly!!!
Come on you know it's all about money, not preserving our outdoors.. I think it's a disgrace to fisherman.. Now anyone who truly never even put anytime in fishing can jump in a boat and play there online game and catch fish without any knowledge of fishing.. It's garbage and the reason i will no longer watch or support the organization..
MLF does not answer their emails. I emailed them about this thing and got no response. How do I get a response from them?
went to mlf to let them know what i thought. even on their home page they have pics of fisherman staring at their shit box's. so pathetic! its pathetic that a pro tour lets those guys use those. unbelievable! MLF and all its fisherman should be ashamed of themselves!
I really just like to find structure and that's that. I do not like video game fishing. It is cool to see fish swimming around,
How about the guy in a jon boat on a pond or small.lake with a fly rod and Lefty's Deceiver. He catches bass, yellow perch and picker. Now that's old time fishing but it's Real fishing!
Tournaments are nothing more than trash advertising. I have no use for it at all.
Personally as an adult i wouldnt participate until changes are made
It’s all about the money, Humminbird, Lowrance, Garmin are making millions on this frenzy and that’s what is driving this movement. Tournament angler’s are concerned with a paycheck and nothing else, whatever will give them an edge. The weekend anglers that want to go out with their grandkids and teach them how to fish get lost in the mix because every weekend a large lake has so many boats in tournaments that the basic fishing skills and tradition the suffers. Tournaments and advanced electronics have greatly diminished the sport and the tradition.
people said the same thing about the horse and buggy. smh
that makes no sense to me
So now we are supposed to shame people for working their butts off to go pro ,just because they have FFS? This is a joke just because you have FFS doesn’t mean you can catch them using it.
Can your Dad Fish or does he Live scope
I wish every time someone saw someone using their FFS they’d start driving circles in a wakeboard boat with its bags full 😂
They should let them have what ever electronics they want on the console and only a flasher unit on the front and eliminate any bed fishing,
I agree with you. But that being said. Its where the money is coming from. These electronics are expensive and the companies that sell them. Want them in the Big tournaments. So that average angler feels they need them. It's that simple.
What a complete JOKE. Regardless if you’re for or against FFS……could you imagine trying to make a living being a professional angler, and the stupid organization is so wishy washy that they can’t get their act together???? I’d be embarrassed
I say do away with ALL electronics. No FFS, no 2d, no mapping, no computers on engines, go back to pull start motors, take away all pc’s, cars back to the 40’s, no cell phones, to hell with going forward lets go back to the 30’s and 40’s.
It is not about they can’t…they refuse. They think we are the warp ones that are stupid for “guessing” where fish are. They like catching…not fishing…limited guessing
Start a new league or series where it's back to the basics that you talk about. Since the bait companies are losing revenue due to ffs they should be happy to endorse, sponsor and fund a whole new thing! Call it "The Honor and Integrity Series."
Great it should be used as long as they take money from the company’s that make it !!
I want you to from here on out use a flasher only no 2 d or side view for Randy
I’m done watching em both BASS and MLF and cancelled my membership
Yeah Im over it roo. Bass Fishing has blown up. Ive dropped all my memberships and have reduced taxkle purchases by 80% this year as old habits die hard...Im running for Congress with the extra money and looking for everyone daughters.
I should say Scoping
😂😂😂😂 yal will never understand! Livescope is here to stay and that it for certain is not a catch all tool
I stopped watching MLF or any tournament where FFS is allowed. Loss of viewership for these tournaments may change the rules. Is this the new definition of "fair chase"?
Good morning Randy. I just wanted to let you know why I unsubscribed to your channel. I’m not a hater. I enjoy your content when you are talking about fishing and teaching. But your constant going on about what you feel is ruining bass fishing is to much for me. I am sure you are right with your view points in fact I agree with you for the most part. But enough is enough. We know how you feel. It’s your channel so do what you like. I just wanted to let you know why I left.
same here, I don't watch or follow any of this shit and even tho i can understand being mad at the rules and what not it just seems like he's lost his marbles to the outsider looking in, I found this channel because of the great tip and jerkbait stuff and want more of that real fishing he keeps talking about, so maybe a focus on that please!
That's not the reason they reversed the rule. The rule was 24 inches from seat to top of screen. I could have a 3 inch screen and been illegal because I have a gambler.
They reversed the rule because it was a bad rule to begin with.
I would love to have a conversation with you about this but I don’t think you could have a conversation without attacking. And I’m on the fence.