Will you be buying the H1e ? 'Let me know below. Or maybe the new H4e or H6e. Interesting releases from Zoom for sure, but not without a few usual Zoom "brain farts" they seem so fond of recently. Still, for the 90 bucks I paid, I'm pretty happy.
LOlz... I just received this today and yes, that voice repeating the same number is annoying. Also, the screen is so small, it very difficult to see or read. I've tested against the Tascam DR-07X and the first thing is the menu screen is much bigger and the high are sharp and cleaner vs the H1E. I got the H1E when it was on sale for $80 plus promo come down to $65. Not sure if I should return it or keep it.
I agree that the latest Zoom recorder screens leave A LOT to be desired for 2024. They look like they're firmly stuck in the 1990's. All the new Tascam recorders have offered way better designs with way better screens. I don't know what Zoom are thinking but they're way behind the times for sure. As for keeping the H1e, I'll keep mine because it's handy to have. Saying that, many tests have shown that the H1n is actually less noisy than the H1e, which is quite honestly shocking and an embarassment for Zoom. How can you not vastly improve on a device that's many years old ? All I can say is that I wouldn't exactly blame you for taking it back, but it all depends on what you want it for.
@@LookingForSounds I may keep it since it only $65 for a brand-new recorder. The other super annoying is that each time batteries replacement, date/time need to be entered. Don't have that issue with Tascam unless the batteries are removed for long period of time. At this point the only Pros I see it has better interfering shield vs Tascam. Thanks for the great videos post.
@@denis4072 Cheers. For 65 bucks it's worth keeping in your backpack/shoulder bag or coat pocket as an every day carry. That's how I use it. It's always in my backpack as a quick and dirty recorder when I'm out and about in daily life. Everything else I'll use my F3 and LOM Usi mics. Thanks for the kind words.
It's probably best to search TH-cam for motorcycle recording. I've seen a few channels experimenting with recorders and external mic placements for the best sound. Sadly it's not something I've ever done before, so I can't really advise what's best to spend your money on.
audio quality is same right? but h1e just have bigger sd card and 32 bit right? other wise if i put a mic in there its gonna sound the same or is it different in gain ?
Not sure if the audio quality is the same yet. I did want to get out this week and do a comparison with the H1n but the weather turned bad. Will try again this weekend if it's OK. As I understand it, the inbuilt mics were upgraded too. You can easily use an external mic, but the signal may well be higher or lower than the onboard mics, but with 32bit you should be covered for clipping.
@@LookingForSounds sound good ill sub to se. Im looking for if I should get f2 bt to reocord my motorcycle exaust sound with 32 or just h1e then h1n for talking i but then I might aswell go for both h1e for 32bit so I dont clipp as much. But I dont know im doing research now. I dont even what is best mic to put in side helmey for best sound.
@@imrin4059 Can't help you there unfortunately, but I've seen a few people on TH-cam showing their sound setups for motorcycling, so I'm sure you'll find a great answer elsewhere of what really works the best for that use.
Thanks mate. I'm quite impressed so far too, except for the pre-record recording the audio help. But hey, I can turn that off. Still seems silly though as that was a huge selling point for people with impaired vision. Cheers for the comment. Appreciate it as always.
I understand what you mean regarding the black background and white lettering. Can be very confusing. Thanks for doing a comparison on the H1n. Just picked up the H1e
Good to hear it isn't just me. I don't like it one bit, and the fact that you can't even change it to the reverse is also very annoying. Good job I don't go into the menus of the H1e very often. Anyway, thanks so much for watching and commenting. Appreciate it.
An interesting date bug, i'm sure they'll bring out some new firmware to sort that out shortly. Glad you pointed out some of the issues of pre-record too, not that I would use it myself, I don't think. I've got one coming in 4 days (March 6th) so looking forward to testing it anyway with our SR3D Basic binaural capturing device.
Thanks so much for commenting. I know they're small bugs or annoyances, but for me the menu system is so so so simple that I have to shake my head at how anyone can f*** it up, let alone a huge electronics company. I sometimes wonder if Zoom do any testing at all. Anyway, with that said it's been a super little recorder so far. I'm very happy indeed (except for the pre-record nonsense) and I'm sure you will be happy too. I've seen your binaural mics many times in online videos, so I'll sub to your channel and look out for your review. Cheers for stopping by.
@@LookingForSounds Many thanks for the sub! I hope to do a video on binaural audio, I've already got one up there, but the binaural "cubes" were using much bigger mics, and they didn't work that well, so aim to do better in my next one. I believe that there is much confusion with binaural microphones, so I'm hoping to address that from my very opinionated understanding about them, as I realised how to record binaural cues through brainstorming rather than looking it up or researching it. Have a look for "The time preservation society" he did a little feature on my SR3D Basic mic (he called it the DIY Kit which is incorrect), but they all do the same thing! Going to sub you back, and no doubt I'll eventually do something with the new recorder, as because if they are more simple to use with my devices, the better!
@@sr3d-microphones Cheers. I watch Time Preservation Society, so no doubt I also saw your mics there. You use Clippys (EM272) don't you ? Sadly my only experience with binaural is with the Roland CS-10EM headphone/mic, and I found them pretty useless and not great due to tons of cable noise and the speaker output bleeding back into the mic causing a feedback loop effect. I had to eventually unplug the headphone cable to prevent that. But I do really love that idea of binaural stealth recording using a headphone-like setup. I was meaning to give the Sound Professionals set a go, but I've been a bit put off by my experience with the Rolands.
@@LookingForSounds Yes, I use the EM272 capsules, but headphones with mics on the ends are not binaural, any mics without an ear are not binaural, which is one of the things i'll be trying to put out there on the video, it's all to do with the pinna, as without the pinna, we hear everything inside our heads! I do think that there's far too much confusion over stereo/binaural, and really I'd love to see a new category of microphone class, not named as microphones, but binaural capturing devices, as they are completely different beasts! In a simple way, standard microphones capture direct sound, whereas binaural microphones capture reflected sounds, all to do with the ears, there is sort of a direct path to the ear canal, but there's ridges and folds in the way, so It's still binaural, once the concept of true binaural is realised it opens up a whole new world. I sent this to Nathan recently, but he's still not seen it I don't think, but it's an ongoing video edit I'm working on regarding binaural audio and how it's being confused with dogmatic writings about what it is, in my opinion. What do you think? it's unlisted th-cam.com/video/PKw9tT7nTmI/w-d-xo.html
@@sr3d-microphones Sure, I get what you're saying. It's no accident that the human ear evolved to what it is today. And obviously for a very good reason. So yes, I get that a headphone/mic doesn't capture any reflections. It's basically no different to using "tree ears" in field recordings with different spacings to create stereo separation. So yes, I admit that I was also mislead by the true meaning of binaural. It obviously goes way beyond the very basic and simplistic idea of two mics separated by the width of a human head with a solid object in between. I guess that belief is really no different from using a Jecklin Disk. So I suppose the real question is, just how different is the sound from a true binaural setup and a "fake" headphone setup ? Is it really that big ?
Hi, just doing some research on this recorder to use to capture motorcycle exhaust noise and possibly dialogue from within a helmet. If I was to plug a lav mic in and record dialogue would I also be able to still record off the X/Y mics and have the lav mic audio and X/Y audio captured on seperate tracks to be able to play around with in post? Thanks
Hey mate. No, unfortunately not. Plugging-in a Lav mic or any mic into the 3.5mm input cuts out the in-built X/Y mics. It's only a 2 channel recorder, so you can't use both.
@@TheFilmFinesse Sadly it is, and requires a bit more expense than you may have planned Also look at the many Motorcycle channels to get an idea of how they set themselves up for sound.
A lot of people use the H1 or H2 but I do want to be able to record to the same recorder on multiple tracks and 32bit is a huge edge against the older recorders, thanks for the help!
This is a very handy review, thank you so much! I can't believe Zoom let that glitch through with the date and the beep...wow...I wonder if they have an update to correct this.
I hope they will update it. The beep on the pre-record is crazy. Personally I can do without sounds, but for the visually impaired it's a bit annoying.
THANK you for your video ..... Do you think it is possible to raise the INPUT LEVELS , somehow ? (i am not talking about the output levels which can be adjusted) Thank you for your time.
Hi. Thanks for watching and commenting. To answer your question, no it's not possible to raise the gain of the microphones. You would do that in post-production using audio software to normalise the levels to your desired result.
The sounds at the end (and this is in the recorders XY microphones, not you) were midtone, not much in high and low. But for $130 CAD, we can't really expect much. On the other hand, for $130 you do get something "decent" or "ok", something that might work for reference sounds or non-serious sound gathering unless of course you add a good microphone, this should improve the sound significantly. Would be interesting...
Sure, the mics used were the inbuilt XY for all the sounds at the end. The sound will improve a lot with external mics and I hope to test this soon and make a video. As you say, for 100 bucks you're never going to get an amazing machine, but I find it perfect for an "every day carry" device in my pocket/backpack when I hear something interesting outside.
Great video. Very informative! Currently i am using the H1n to record live shows in my city. So far im happy with the audio quality (as long as i get a good mic placement in the venue) but setting and adgusting the correct gain on the fly is a hassle. When i discovered the new Essential series the 32-bit feature sold me inmediatly. For my porpuses the 32-bit seems a neccesity. Also, the bluetooth capabilities on the H4e and H6e seem very appealing. I dont see mayor issues for my case. I think i will be upgrading soon.
Both seem great , but all depends on whether you plan to buy some XLR mics in future. If you do, the H4e is the no-brainer choice for the money. Personally I like to have both sizes of recorder - the smaller H1e for my jacket pocket, and my H6 and my F3 for when I need external mics.
@lookingforsounds I never used an XLR Mic. So can one plug into the Zoom H4e and then can I do a line out into a camera to get the audio from the XLR mic?
@@thomasusheriii971 Sorry for the late reply. Yes, the H4e will take 2 external XLR mics and records 4 channels (inbuilt stereo mics + 2 XLR at the same time), and you will be able to audio-out to a camera. So it's up to you whether you want to get the H4e for the future in case you want these options.
Thanks for sharing your view, first experiences and samples!
You're welcome. Thanks a lot for watching.
Will you be buying the H1e ? 'Let me know below. Or maybe the new H4e or H6e. Interesting releases from Zoom for sure, but not without a few usual Zoom "brain farts" they seem so fond of recently. Still, for the 90 bucks I paid, I'm pretty happy.
lol, the date setting issue is the first I noticed when I first turned mine on! 😂
Crazy, right ? I'm sure they only spent 5 minutes testing this recorder.
Excellent video, it has been very useful for me, thank you very much !
Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
LOlz... I just received this today and yes, that voice repeating the same number is annoying. Also, the screen is so small, it very difficult to see or read. I've tested against the Tascam DR-07X and the first thing is the menu screen is much bigger and the high are sharp and cleaner vs the H1E. I got the H1E when it was on sale for $80 plus promo come down to $65. Not sure if I should return it or keep it.
I agree that the latest Zoom recorder screens leave A LOT to be desired for 2024. They look like they're firmly stuck in the 1990's. All the new Tascam recorders have offered way better designs with way better screens. I don't know what Zoom are thinking but they're way behind the times for sure.
As for keeping the H1e, I'll keep mine because it's handy to have. Saying that, many tests have shown that the H1n is actually less noisy than the H1e, which is quite honestly shocking and an embarassment for Zoom. How can you not vastly improve on a device that's many years old ? All I can say is that I wouldn't exactly blame you for taking it back, but it all depends on what you want it for.
@@LookingForSounds I may keep it since it only $65 for a brand-new recorder. The other super annoying is that each time batteries replacement, date/time need to be entered. Don't have that issue with Tascam unless the batteries are removed for long period of time. At this point the only Pros I see it has better interfering shield vs Tascam. Thanks for the great videos post.
@@denis4072 Cheers. For 65 bucks it's worth keeping in your backpack/shoulder bag or coat pocket as an every day carry. That's how I use it. It's always in my backpack as a quick and dirty recorder when I'm out and about in daily life. Everything else I'll use my F3 and LOM Usi mics. Thanks for the kind words.
witch one shuld i get to have in backpack on my motorcyckle to get good sound ?
It's probably best to search TH-cam for motorcycle recording. I've seen a few channels experimenting with recorders and external mic placements for the best sound. Sadly it's not something I've ever done before, so I can't really advise what's best to spend your money on.
audio quality is same right? but h1e just have bigger sd card and 32 bit right? other wise if i put a mic in there its gonna sound the same or is it different in gain ?
Not sure if the audio quality is the same yet. I did want to get out this week and do a comparison with the H1n but the weather turned bad. Will try again this weekend if it's OK. As I understand it, the inbuilt mics were upgraded too. You can easily use an external mic, but the signal may well be higher or lower than the onboard mics, but with 32bit you should be covered for clipping.
@@LookingForSounds sound good ill sub to se. Im looking for if I should get f2 bt to reocord my motorcycle exaust sound with 32 or just h1e then h1n for talking i but then I might aswell go for both h1e for 32bit so I dont clipp as much. But I dont know im doing research now. I dont even what is best mic to put in side helmey for best sound.
RODE LAV II or purple panda or what other.
@@imrin4059 Can't help you there unfortunately, but I've seen a few people on TH-cam showing their sound setups for motorcycling, so I'm sure you'll find a great answer elsewhere of what really works the best for that use.
Looking forward to checking this out later. Commenting so I remember when I have a bit more time 😮. I’m a big fan of mine so far haha.
Thanks mate. I'm quite impressed so far too, except for the pre-record recording the audio help. But hey, I can turn that off. Still seems silly though as that was a huge selling point for people with impaired vision.
Cheers for the comment. Appreciate it as always.
I understand what you mean regarding the black background and white lettering. Can be very confusing. Thanks for doing a comparison on the H1n. Just picked up the H1e
Good to hear it isn't just me. I don't like it one bit, and the fact that you can't even change it to the reverse is also very annoying. Good job I don't go into the menus of the H1e very often.
Anyway, thanks so much for watching and commenting. Appreciate it.
An interesting date bug, i'm sure they'll bring out some new firmware to sort that out shortly.
Glad you pointed out some of the issues of pre-record too, not that I would use it myself, I don't think.
I've got one coming in 4 days (March 6th) so looking forward to testing it anyway with our SR3D Basic binaural capturing device.
Thanks so much for commenting. I know they're small bugs or annoyances, but for me the menu system is so so so simple that I have to shake my head at how anyone can f*** it up, let alone a huge electronics company. I sometimes wonder if Zoom do any testing at all.
Anyway, with that said it's been a super little recorder so far. I'm very happy indeed (except for the pre-record nonsense) and I'm sure you will be happy too. I've seen your binaural mics many times in online videos, so I'll sub to your channel and look out for your review. Cheers for stopping by.
@@LookingForSounds
Many thanks for the sub!
I hope to do a video on binaural audio, I've already got one up there, but the binaural "cubes" were using much bigger mics, and they didn't work that well, so aim to do better in my next one. I believe that there is much confusion with binaural microphones, so I'm hoping to address that from my very opinionated understanding about them, as I realised how to record binaural cues through brainstorming rather than looking it up or researching it. Have a look for "The time preservation society" he did a little feature on my SR3D Basic mic (he called it the DIY Kit which is incorrect), but they all do the same thing!
Going to sub you back, and no doubt I'll eventually do something with the new recorder, as because if they are more simple to use with my devices, the better!
@@sr3d-microphones Cheers. I watch Time Preservation Society, so no doubt I also saw your mics there. You use Clippys (EM272) don't you ? Sadly my only experience with binaural is with the Roland CS-10EM headphone/mic, and I found them pretty useless and not great due to tons of cable noise and the speaker output bleeding back into the mic causing a feedback loop effect. I had to eventually unplug the headphone cable to prevent that. But I do really love that idea of binaural stealth recording using a headphone-like setup. I was meaning to give the Sound Professionals set a go, but I've been a bit put off by my experience with the Rolands.
@@LookingForSounds
Yes, I use the EM272 capsules, but headphones with mics on the ends are not binaural, any mics without an ear are not binaural, which is one of the things i'll be trying to put out there on the video, it's all to do with the pinna, as without the pinna, we hear everything inside our heads! I do think that there's far too much confusion over stereo/binaural, and really I'd love to see a new category of microphone class, not named as microphones, but binaural capturing devices, as they are completely different beasts! In a simple way, standard microphones capture direct sound, whereas binaural microphones capture reflected sounds, all to do with the ears, there is sort of a direct path to the ear canal, but there's ridges and folds in the way, so It's still binaural, once the concept of true binaural is realised it opens up a whole new world. I sent this to Nathan recently, but he's still not seen it I don't think, but it's an ongoing video edit I'm working on regarding binaural audio and how it's being confused with dogmatic writings about what it is, in my opinion. What do you think? it's unlisted
th-cam.com/video/PKw9tT7nTmI/w-d-xo.html
@@sr3d-microphones Sure, I get what you're saying. It's no accident that the human ear evolved to what it is today. And obviously for a very good reason. So yes, I get that a headphone/mic doesn't capture any reflections. It's basically no different to using "tree ears" in field recordings with different spacings to create stereo separation. So yes, I admit that I was also mislead by the true meaning of binaural. It obviously goes way beyond the very basic and simplistic idea of two mics separated by the width of a human head with a solid object in between. I guess that belief is really no different from using a Jecklin Disk.
So I suppose the real question is, just how different is the sound from a true binaural setup and a "fake" headphone setup ? Is it really that big ?
Hi, just doing some research on this recorder to use to capture motorcycle exhaust noise and possibly dialogue from within a helmet. If I was to plug a lav mic in and record dialogue would I also be able to still record off the X/Y mics and have the lav mic audio and X/Y audio captured on seperate tracks to be able to play around with in post? Thanks
Hey mate. No, unfortunately not. Plugging-in a Lav mic or any mic into the 3.5mm input cuts out the in-built X/Y mics. It's only a 2 channel recorder, so you can't use both.
That’s a shame, H4e it is then 😅
@@TheFilmFinesse Sadly it is, and requires a bit more expense than you may have planned Also look at the many Motorcycle channels to get an idea of how they set themselves up for sound.
A lot of people use the H1 or H2 but I do want to be able to record to the same recorder on multiple tracks and 32bit is a huge edge against the older recorders, thanks for the help!
This is a very handy review, thank you so much! I can't believe Zoom let that glitch through with the date and the beep...wow...I wonder if they have an update to correct this.
I hope they will update it. The beep on the pre-record is crazy. Personally I can do without sounds, but for the visually impaired it's a bit annoying.
THANK you for your video .....
Do you think it is possible to raise the INPUT LEVELS , somehow ?
(i am not talking about the output levels which can be adjusted)
Thank you for your time.
Hi. Thanks for watching and commenting. To answer your question, no it's not possible to raise the gain of the microphones. You would do that in post-production using audio software to normalise the levels to your desired result.
The sounds at the end (and this is in the recorders XY microphones, not you) were midtone, not much in high and low. But for $130 CAD, we can't really expect much. On the other hand, for $130 you do get something "decent" or "ok", something that might work for reference sounds or non-serious sound gathering unless of course you add a good microphone, this should improve the sound significantly. Would be interesting...
Sure, the mics used were the inbuilt XY for all the sounds at the end. The sound will improve a lot with external mics and I hope to test this soon and make a video.
As you say, for 100 bucks you're never going to get an amazing machine, but I find it perfect for an "every day carry" device in my pocket/backpack when I hear something interesting outside.
Seems like it suffers a lot from handling noise 🤔
They all do really. Can't help that.
@@LookingForSounds i bought the H1n to complement my kit, 60€ i'm happy with it. Also have the H4n Pro and F6 👍🏻
Great video. Very informative!
Currently i am using the H1n to record live shows in my city. So far im happy with the audio quality (as long as i get a good mic placement in the venue) but setting and adgusting the correct gain on the fly is a hassle. When i discovered the new Essential series the 32-bit feature sold me inmediatly. For my porpuses the 32-bit seems a neccesity. Also, the bluetooth capabilities on the H4e and H6e seem very appealing.
I dont see mayor issues for my case. I think i will be upgrading soon.
Thanks Miguel. A 32bit recorder would be perfect for your use. Probably the H4 or H6 so you can use multiple microphones to capture your shows.
Im torn between the H1e and h4e...
Both seem great , but all depends on whether you plan to buy some XLR mics in future. If you do, the H4e is the no-brainer choice for the money. Personally I like to have both sizes of recorder - the smaller H1e for my jacket pocket, and my H6 and my F3 for when I need external mics.
@lookingforsounds I never used an XLR Mic. So can one plug into the Zoom H4e and then can I do a line out into a camera to get the audio from the XLR mic?
@@thomasusheriii971 Sorry for the late reply. Yes, the H4e will take 2 external XLR mics and records 4 channels (inbuilt stereo mics + 2 XLR at the same time), and you will be able to audio-out to a camera. So it's up to you whether you want to get the H4e for the future in case you want these options.