Some great examples of real fighters here. The one that stood out for me in both Kata & Kumite was Yahara Sensei. He had that rare ability to surprise with sparring & his kata could be mesmerising.
100% right !!!!! Frank Brennan is the best fighter the shotokan style ever gave so far. Perfect timing , speed , and using left and right side with perfect accuracy .
Seems like you’re stuck on the name Frank. So here’s a Frank to think on - Frank Smith, of Southern California. His Sensei, by the name of Nishiyama, severely limited his competing, why I don’t know. But Frank Smith, when he was permitted to compete, totally dominated US championships through the middle 60s and beyond. I still wear some scars from Frank.
@@williamtetrault1300 US shotokan very very low level in comparison with Europe. I'll check this Frank Smith who he is . As regarding Hidetaka Nishiyama his so called traditional karate is so rigid and stiff nothing to compare with enoeda , shirai or taiji Kase . So Brennan totally different breed. Also South Africa had excellent fighters in shotokan
The forward pressure and footwork in Shotokan is lightening fast and incredibly impressive. No wonder it has found its way into MMA. Its disruptive capability is a force to be reckoned with.
I took shotokan karate reason I stopped because of the pandemic I was busy doing kendo, akido , and judo so I couldn't do everything plus I'm getting promoted to 6th kyu but I still like shotokan karate.
Witch u consider better for street ? Judo or shotokan or depends on user bcz i wanna learn one of them bcz im weak and alot of time ppl are attacked where i live
@@burntrim tbh i tryed both and dont think their for me i would like box,muay thai or bjj but when il be 18 i got a plan to move in Bucharest or England or somewhere to train and be a champion
My only issue is we don't know how good they actually are under pressure until they take a real hit. I'd like to see them under full contact rules but their form and footwork is excellent!
Yahara proved himself in the street, trust me, he had a personal bodyguard company and had to take on over 30 Yakuza who wanted to shut him down, he earned their respect after annihilating all comers.
Even in todays WKF competiton you take real hits from time to time. The thing this competition format really lacks, is chaining hard hit combos together. Back then, hard hits were more frequent. As was being a judo player in japan also... .
@@khamariblair4898 We don't have to play this game with the common " street fighter" nonsense. " Real confrontation" is a very wide field and often the tougher opponents wait on the mat and in the ring. (Hard trained fighters with genetics above average). Every good street fighter I knew, trained MA also. So most often in the street MA beats MA... .
@@kenkongermany7860 Ok. Im not arguing I just know what I have experienced in a real confrontation. Because I have had a few. And I fought in brawls. If you like MMA that's your thing. Im not trying to criticize no one. Sorry if I stepped on your toes.
more action: from pros days, when o o se empieza a convencer y se sien el techo y himself and feels weird and distracted, paranoid about the house. some desde pros dias, cuandente raro distraido, paranoia con la casa. la rondan unos pibitos que no serian pibitos, dispara pero tuene una viscosidad que le sale de la boca o algo asi. un dia llega y ve trazso ven el techo y himself ag like that. one day he arrives and sees viscous traces in different parts of the house. that night, wps at home, he thinks he nd feels weird and distracted, paranoid about the house. some desde pros dias, cuandiscosos en diverdigonazo. a la mañana siguiente muda todo…la maquina la deja, lleva lo hehe starts to convincealgunsas partes de la casa. esa noche, que duerme en casa, cree ori algn he sleeotro. kids are around him, some of them have a viscous substance that comes out of uff with him. that's when he buys old machine and moves outhis mouth or somethinsees something on the ceiling and shoots buckshot. the next morning he moves everything...he leaves the machine, takes the other st
Shotokan makes you tough, agree, practiced that for years 24/7 (no kidding), a few other styles make you much faster and MUCH more effective. Say you gain 40% speed and power, in 6 months.
Rafael Agayev should be in this list. No one on this list achieved his tittle like 11 time European champion, 5 time World Champion and Olympic champion.
Great examples - but these are not "fighters". Nor are they shown fighting in this video. They are point-sparring competitors participating in point-based tournaments. The instances where full contact blows are landed are completely unnecessary and usually result in disqualification.
Frank B. No way. He’s good for a Caucasian but no way is he in the top five. I am a 2 Dan and I’ve been around the world 9× and 45 countries And trained in Japan As well as 20 other countries. Whoever chose these top five must be a friend of Frank’s or a student Of his. The other four Japanese are excellent .
You can't expect from a style that has discarded protective gear to employ full-contact blows ! The use of thick gloves and chest-protection, like in Kick-boxing and Tae Kwon Do detract a lot of essense, as compared to the (brutal) realism. In the broad sense of meaning all the fighting methods are point-sparring. In my opinion, a combination of high-tech protective gear and semi-contact rules of behaviour may be the best way to recreate realism in the future. A fithing environment that allows even (filtered) hits to the sensitive points like the solar-plexus, the throat and the private parts,, all protected by state-of-the-art lightweight materials, in combination with semi-control, whenever those targets are concerned, can be qualified as the closest approximation towards realism. And of course the points awarded system observed by the referees should be devised in consultation with medical experts.
So what is your definition of fighting? Two house wives arguing over a fence? Two drunks wrestling in the street? Two boxers in a ring? An exchange of gun fire in World War 2? I'd like to know what your definition of "fighting" is
I like the Japanese Shotokan fighter compared to any other nationalities. Japanese fights more better and they do not jump with joy if they hit a point. as if there is nothing happened. Brennan is just a good fighter but surely he will be smash by the best Japanese who will not jump with joy when they entered a hit.
My personal favorite is kokubun sensei ,,,, he is a beast
Some great examples of real fighters here. The one that stood out for me in both Kata & Kumite was Yahara Sensei. He had that rare ability to surprise with sparring & his kata could be mesmerising.
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Mikio Yahara, revitalized unique older technics, he fought like a tiger, similar with shotokan symbol / flag.
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Frank Brennan is by far number one
Frank Brennan, 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
100% right !!!!! Frank Brennan is the best fighter the shotokan style ever gave so far. Perfect timing , speed , and using left and right side with perfect accuracy .
Seems like you’re stuck on the name Frank. So here’s a Frank to think on - Frank Smith, of Southern California. His Sensei, by the name of Nishiyama, severely limited his competing, why I don’t know. But Frank Smith, when he was permitted to compete, totally dominated US championships through the middle 60s and beyond. I still wear some scars from Frank.
@@williamtetrault1300 US shotokan very very low level in comparison with Europe. I'll check this Frank Smith who he is . As regarding Hidetaka Nishiyama his so called traditional karate is so rigid and stiff nothing to compare with enoeda , shirai or taiji Kase . So Brennan totally different breed. Also South Africa had excellent fighters in shotokan
@@dragosrosu2228 LOL!
@@williamtetrault1300 ooops keep forgetting US is number one and the best of the best ...
There is one person missing on that list sensei Masahiko Tanaka
I put him in the first list
@@_Karate_World Yes Master Tanaka is a remarkable man. Great Shotokan Master
Tanaka Sensei should be number 1 by far
brennan the best ever
Yamamoto and Kobukun are severely underrated.
Amazing compilation of great JKA fighters! Thank you!
0:45 is the essence of what martial arts is.we shouldn't try to kill each other just for selfish ego
good man, too many good people get missed. good effort
old kumite comes from another planet ❤ that was karate!
Now this is karate the way i remeber it the way its supposed to be used
i learned the art Shotokan at 13 years old first belt i have the most respect over the years learn many tactics
the list starts with Frank Smith, ask the current JKA chief instructor about him ;)
Shotokan style combat is basically fencing, speed and touch.
How about Masahiko Tanaka Sensei...
He was in previous list
Tanaka Sensei was the best of all time
Tanaka Sensei is the best of all time!!!
Se o kumite do shotokan fosse sem luvas até hoje,acho que seria mais legal alem de ser mais tradicional,belo video
Sorry! If you want to prop up Japanese fighter only, I understand. But if you want Shotokan. Brennan should be #1, with Rafael Aghayev as #2.
Don't forget Lyoto Machida.😄
Masters Kanazawa ,Enoeda, Shirai, Yaguchi and Shoji..so many talented Masters come and left us..
I made a separate video for them
Jka number 1 championship record Kagawa Sensei
Takeshi Oishi, named #1 in this video, was dominant over a ten year span in the late sixties and early seventies.
@@williamtetrault1300 He was my idol in the 70s!
My favorite is Yamamoto Sensei !!!
The forward pressure and footwork in Shotokan is lightening fast and incredibly impressive. No wonder it has found its way into MMA. Its disruptive capability is a force to be reckoned with.
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Suatu kebanggaan sih. Ambil DAN 2 JKA, pengisi materi+penguji'nya langsung shihan takeshi oishi 🥺🥺
Kagawa 6 times world champ , he won against all of those giants . He is no 1
I took shotokan karate reason I stopped because of the pandemic I was busy doing kendo, akido , and judo so I couldn't do everything plus I'm getting promoted to 6th kyu but I still like shotokan karate.
My pleasure
Witch u consider better for street ?
Judo or shotokan or depends on user bcz i wanna learn one of them bcz im weak and alot of time ppl are attacked where i live
@@alexz1041 Shotokan has everything. How long it takes depends on you
@@burntrim tbh i tryed both and dont think their for me i would like box,muay thai or bjj but when il be 18 i got a plan to move in Bucharest or England or somewhere to train and be a champion
@@alexz1041 Each to their own, good luck whatever you decide
Hearts touch fight
Osu, respect👍👍👍
My only issue is we don't know how good they actually are under pressure until they take a real hit. I'd like to see them under full contact rules but their form and footwork is excellent!
Yahara proved himself in the street, trust me, he had a personal bodyguard company and had to take on over 30 Yakuza who wanted to shut him down, he earned their respect after annihilating all comers.
Even in todays WKF competiton you take real hits from time to time. The thing this competition format really lacks, is chaining hard hit combos together. Back then, hard hits were more frequent. As was being a judo player in japan also... .
There have been some Shotokan masters that have got into real confrontations and defeated their attackers. Kanazawa was one. As well as Master Kase.
@@khamariblair4898 We don't have to play this game with the common " street fighter" nonsense. " Real confrontation" is a very wide field and often the tougher opponents wait on the mat and in the ring. (Hard trained fighters with genetics above average). Every good street fighter I knew, trained MA also. So most often in the street MA beats MA... .
@@kenkongermany7860 Ok. Im not arguing
I just know what I have experienced in a real confrontation. Because I have had a few. And I fought in brawls. If you like MMA that's your thing. Im not trying to criticize no one. Sorry if I stepped on your toes.
shoto kan have attractiom and its seed is awesome
Good fight
I am kbi instructor
Frank Smith
True number 1
Elwyn Hall #1
0:58 Hideo Yamamoto vs Ronaldo Carlos
OSS!!!🇧🇷
So this looks decent and good. Why did it go from this to the goofy red/blue gloves and shoes? Standing like a kangaroo
Sport convert karate....for money....
Ils manquent les enchaînementS "RENRAKU WAZA "
more action: from pros days, when o o se empieza a convencer y se sien el techo y himself and feels weird and distracted, paranoid about the house. some desde pros dias, cuandente raro distraido, paranoia con la casa. la rondan unos pibitos que no serian pibitos, dispara pero tuene una viscosidad que le sale de la boca o algo asi. un dia llega y ve trazso ven el techo y himself ag like that. one day he arrives and sees viscous traces in different parts of the house. that night, wps at home, he thinks he nd feels weird and distracted, paranoid about the house. some desde pros dias, cuandiscosos en diverdigonazo. a la mañana siguiente muda todo…la maquina la deja, lleva lo hehe starts to convincealgunsas partes de la casa. esa noche, que duerme en casa, cree ori algn he sleeotro. kids are around him, some of them have a viscous substance that comes out of uff with him.
that's when he buys old machine and moves outhis mouth or somethinsees something on the ceiling and shoots buckshot. the next morning he moves everything...he leaves the machine, takes the other st
Trop tendus ,il y a beaucoup de tensions musculaires.
Oss isto e karatê do
Shotokan makes you tough, agree, practiced that for years 24/7 (no kidding), a few other styles make you much faster and MUCH more effective. Say you gain 40% speed and power, in 6 months.
寸止めと防具の二刀流で世界観を構築していたら……
「極真カラテ」を売りたい人たちの“噛ませ犬”にされちゃった部分はある。
Tanaka sensei, Iida sensei, Kanazawa sensei, and Enoeda sensei should be counted?
Tanaka i put in the first part.....Kanazawa and enoeda i made a separate video :)
Rafael Agayev should be in this list. No one on this list achieved his tittle like 11 time European champion, 5 time World Champion and Olympic champion.
Rafael would be knocked down by any one of these karatekas on the list
Where is tiger of shotokan Enoeda ?
I've seen a video of Kanazawa sensei dominating him even though he was much smaller. Enoeda may have been the most powerful shotokan practioner ever
Great examples - but these are not "fighters". Nor are they shown fighting in this video. They are point-sparring competitors participating in point-based tournaments. The instances where full contact blows are landed are completely unnecessary and usually result in disqualification.
I don't share
Frank B. No way. He’s good for a Caucasian but no way is he in the top five. I am a 2 Dan and I’ve been around the world 9× and 45 countries And trained in Japan As well as 20 other countries. Whoever chose these top five must be a friend of Frank’s or a student Of his. The other four Japanese are excellent .
You can't expect from a style that has discarded protective gear to employ full-contact blows ! The use of thick gloves and chest-protection, like in Kick-boxing and Tae Kwon Do detract a lot of essense, as compared to the (brutal) realism. In the broad sense of meaning all the fighting methods are point-sparring. In my opinion, a combination of high-tech protective gear and semi-contact rules of behaviour may be the best way to recreate realism in the future. A fithing environment that allows even (filtered) hits to the sensitive points like the solar-plexus, the throat and the private parts,, all protected by state-of-the-art lightweight materials, in combination with semi-control, whenever those targets are concerned, can be qualified as the closest approximation towards realism. And of course the points awarded system observed by the referees should be devised in consultation with medical experts.
JKA has point sparring, but allows full-power strikes. The competitors who get hit end up in a half KO state.
So what is your definition of fighting? Two house wives arguing over a fence? Two drunks wrestling in the street? Two boxers in a ring? An exchange of gun fire in World War 2? I'd like to know what your definition of "fighting" is
What about Tatsuya Naka ?
椎名は入ってないな・・・
真髄
Frank Smith
Nn capisco come si fa punto ? Toccando il collo del altro?e uno dei modi
Que no pongan a Msahiko Tanaka Sensei en estas listas es un insulto
I put him in the first list oss😊
@@_Karate_World oss! Tenes que ponerlo en todas! Mala mia, no lo recordaba! Mis disculpas!
@@goukiten no problem 😊
KANAZAWA seinsi is the best ever !!!
I made 2 tribute video for him
Mikio Yahara is the best ! Ouss !
JKA, The Best, number 1, is Masahiko Tanaka.
I put him in the first part
@@_Karate_World 🥋🙇♂️🙏👊🏻ss!!!
Dança bonita.
Все слави уличныи драке
I like the Japanese Shotokan fighter compared to any other nationalities. Japanese fights more better and they do not jump with joy if they hit a point. as if there is nothing happened. Brennan is just a good fighter but surely he will be smash by the best Japanese who will not jump with joy when they entered a hit.
Yahara no entra ni entre los primeros 1000.
?😂