Cool vid. I used PT back in the day and it was the clunkiest mess I’ve ever seen. Apparently it has improved quite a bit since the early 2000s. For the music I do, I love the ease of Live, and the stock plugins are very useful once you get to know them. You should try the new vocal comping/take lanes feature. I honestly thinks it the easiest and best implementation out of all of them. Another great thing about Live is the midi recording. You basically never need to hit the record button anymore because it’s always recording! Definitely one of the best features I’ve seen in any daw!
I have been using Pro Tools for years (since the early 2000s) and its always been solid. I have tried the comping feature in Ableton but I don't find it as intuitive as Pro Tools. I do like that MIDI feature in Live a friend recently showed that one to me.
I can tell this guy is a PT fan boy fo’ real!! Lol been a Pro Tools user since 2010 and don’t get me wrong they got a lot of dope ishh when it comes to editing, tracking Vocals/ Mixing but don’t sleep on ABLETON 11 i’ve seen all the shyt u can do on it & I currently own it since 2020! Do your own research guys!!! And to say that PT sound better than ableton your Full of it, ive heard amazing sounding projects from Fl Studio/ Ableton/ logic IT’s WHAT YOU KNOW NOT THE DAW DOES GUYS!
That was awesome! I recently bought ableton 11 but kinda wishing I had PT; can't justify buying both though lol. Would love to see some ableton content (from recording musician perspective) and maybe transferring songs from ableton to PT as I will need to get my songs to a mixer who uses PT. Great content! U got a new subscriber!.
Hello, I have a mini series on using Ableton. Here is a link: th-cam.com/play/PLFf5do7YkmFjpBOXEkQFr7z2PEUuFbgTp.html I also have a video on prepping your files for mixing right here: distinctmastering.com/audio-services/mixing-services/ If you need a mix engineer please do contact me: distinctmastering.com/inquiry/
Hey bro, I just bought a Focusrite 2i2 and it comes with both so I'm going to give Pro Tools a crack so I've subscribed because yours was the first I clicked on and I really like the way you explain things.
@@DistinctMastering Since writing that I downloaded it, hooked up my guitar once and haven't gone back to it. Everyday I tell myself, right I'm going to do it today but I am just scared to do it for some reason. I've even bought some Krk rocket 7's and a midi keyboard so I don't know what the f is wrong with me.
Samplitude Pro had a lot of these features years ago, and it's one of the least known DAWs out there, but so useful. I remember so many years of using it, but now I'm really enjoying Pro Tools.
There is. To turn automation on, Ctrl+Option+Command-click (PC: Ctrl+Start+Alt-click) on the plug-in parameter. Her is is online so you can follow step by step and read up on it: www.soundonsound.com/techniques/hidden-keyboard-shortcuts-pro-tools#:~:text=To%20turn%20automation%20on%2C%20Ctrl,on%20the%20plug%2Din%20parameter.
@Greacher ableton is DEFINITELY better for beginners. Personally, I prefer ableton over FL, but you'll find tons of people who like FL better. I just find ableton much, much easier to work with. Pro tools is geared towards people who do audio work professionally and kinda sucks to use sometimes, so unless that's your goal, I wouldn't recommend it
Thanks for this video and sharing your knowledge on both DAWs. I was wondering, do you think ableton would be better for making instrumentals / beats? maybe a faster workflow? or would you still use pro tools?
Yes it will, Ableton is like a beat machine, Pro Tools is more like a tape recorder. However you can make beats in Pro Tools as well. Some people use pro tools to track their beats into and just mix and master. You need to choose your workflow that suits you best.
It’s honestly not the saw that gives you a great sounds it the user and how you create. The DAW is a tool. Pick the tool that suits your needs and function.
I’m a mix engineer and studio producer who has used reason , ableton, ProTools and studio one. Ableton live 11 with Izotope post production suite is by far the best combo I have used. Pro tools is honestly the lower tier of software. It’s just not that good overall. Workflow is horrid compared to Ableton and avid completely takes over admin permissions on your computer an will fuck everything up on the other programs. Now it’s a subscription? I no longer use pro tools yams have turned down or lost quite a bit of business because of it but the smile is from ear to Fuckin ear baby!! Insert a click track??? 🤣🤣🤣 I rest my case.
Everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion. Depending on your needs each program may suit someone better. Pro Tools is amazing for editing and does have features that Ableton does not. Likewise Ableton has features Pro Tools does not, really depends on your preferences in my opinion.
hi, sorry for my english. Comparing WARP mode between ableton and PT, ableton engine is extremely better than PT in my opinion and its killing me. I used PT and its work bad in my opinion. You said that the pro tools is good... but i am not sure. Has you made the comparisson with the same audio, example a bass track? Thanks and great video.
For music production (making beats and electronic music) I think Ableton does do a better job. Pro Tools works and is great for fixing issues with timing of recorded instruments but they do not operate in the same way. I look at Ableton like my old MPC2000xl beat machine and Pro Tools like a tape recorder. Thats the best analogy I have for each program. Hope that helps!
CHECK OUT “The Weeknd’s Project” from AFTER HOURS ON ABLETON 11 by illangelo, and Lolo Souai’s “High High’s to Low Low’s by STELIOS PHiLi and you’ll see THE POWER OF ABLETON!!!
It did yes but I do not believe anymore. I'm not positive but found this article: www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/pro-audio/news/avid-pro-tools-perpetual-licenses-still-available-at-bh#:~:text=Anyone%20paying%20attention%20to%20the,fully%20subscription%2Dbased%20business%20model.
You can only draw automation in Ableton you cannot actually pencil the waveform like Pro Tools can. It would be great if it did. You can see a feature request by users here: forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?t=239821#:~:text=Editing%20audio%20waveforms%20by%20drawing,%2C%20to%20avoid%20%E2%80%9CClicks%E2%80%9D. Comments here: gearspace.com/board/ableton-live/1234286-pro-tools-pencil-tool-plugin.html Would be great but the pencil in Ableton is not the same as the Pro Tools one.
@@DistinctMastering I love both, but unfortunately don't make money out of music to justify pro tools subscription. I learnt on pro tools in the 90's and when I could finally afford my first 002rack it came bundled with Ableton live 4?(maybe 5 was pro tools 6) and they have lived side by side in my home studio for over 20 years (😞 I'm so old) but now the subscription has forced me to make a decision. I'm going to upgrade my Ableton 10 to 11 and ditch (sadly) my favourite tracking DAW Pro tools. Maybe in a few months of tracking live instruments in Ableton, I'll go back 🤣 Love the channel BTW, discovered today via this video. I watched a few and yours makes me miss pro tools the most. Tab to transient rules!
Pro Tools only having a subscription model now is a very big let down to me tbh. Pro Tools may be the industry standard and in every studio and school, but Ableton Live will always stay my DAW of choice...
Everything you say that Ableton doesn't have and Pro Tools have, Ableton ACTUALLY HAVE! You are totally ignorant of what Ableton can do. Scrub tool for example. Yes you can also do that in Ableton, it's just different and it's also simple.
With all due respect - I never said Ableton can't scrub in the video, I am aware Ableton can do that. I said it does not have a pencil tool to edit the waveform like Pro Tools, scrubbing is just something I do before using the pencil tool and I am sharing that. There are minor differences between programs but I am an avid user of both programs.
hi i have and mpc one i make beat instrumentals etc im looking to upgrade the work flow with the mpc in mind i use fl as a daw for the mpc but it dosent merry well with the mpc one ive been looking in too ablation 11 how ever with new pro tool version its kinda peak my interest i was wondering what would u suggest im an old pro tool user still have my old pro tools 8 disc lol
If you're a Pro Tools user it might be easier to stick with that. Pro Tools acts like a tape recorder while Ableton is more like an MPC in the computer if you know what I mean. Really up to you they both are great programs.
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Cool vid. I used PT back in the day and it was the clunkiest mess I’ve ever seen. Apparently it has improved quite a bit since the early 2000s. For the music I do, I love the ease of Live, and the stock plugins are very useful once you get to know them. You should try the new vocal comping/take lanes feature. I honestly thinks it the easiest and best implementation out of all of them. Another great thing about Live is the midi recording. You basically never need to hit the record button anymore because it’s always recording! Definitely one of the best features I’ve seen in any daw!
I have been using Pro Tools for years (since the early 2000s) and its always been solid. I have tried the comping feature in Ableton but I don't find it as intuitive as Pro Tools. I do like that MIDI feature in Live a friend recently showed that one to me.
I'm into edm / synthwave, use ableton for creating and protools for mastering
Same as me. I also record when pro tools.
I love pro tools, but after few years of using hardware sequencers I have to admit that Ableton is the best sequencer ever.
Ableton is also great for working with audio.
I can tell this guy is a PT fan boy fo’ real!! Lol been a Pro Tools user since 2010 and don’t get me wrong they got a lot of dope ishh when it comes to editing, tracking Vocals/ Mixing but don’t sleep on ABLETON 11 i’ve seen all the shyt u can do on it & I currently own it since 2020! Do your own research guys!!! And to say that PT sound better than ableton your Full of it, ive heard amazing sounding projects from Fl Studio/ Ableton/ logic
IT’s WHAT YOU KNOW NOT THE DAW DOES GUYS!
I use both. In regards to your comment a DAW is a DAW and yes its really about you and how to approach it.
@@DistinctMastering I started mixing in Cubase, and my clients love the results, so I'm using this hybrid.
@@synthoelectro nice.
Please create a Vocal Production tutorial! would love to see/hear how you comp, use elastic audio, approach comping and recording etc.!! thanks :D
Vocal production video for sure, subbed.
Thanks for the sub!
That was awesome! I recently bought ableton 11 but kinda wishing I had PT; can't justify buying both though lol. Would love to see some ableton content (from recording musician perspective) and maybe transferring songs from ableton to PT as I will need to get my songs to a mixer who uses PT. Great content! U got a new subscriber!.
Hello, I have a mini series on using Ableton. Here is a link: th-cam.com/play/PLFf5do7YkmFjpBOXEkQFr7z2PEUuFbgTp.html
I also have a video on prepping your files for mixing right here: distinctmastering.com/audio-services/mixing-services/
If you need a mix engineer please do contact me: distinctmastering.com/inquiry/
I worked on almost every DAW and ableton live is best DAW for music production and audio engineering
It is a good one and I use it daily! I prefer Pro Tools for editing, recording and mixing though. Can't shake it!
Hey bro, I just bought a Focusrite 2i2 and it comes with both so I'm going to give Pro Tools a crack so I've subscribed because yours was the first I clicked on and I really like the way you explain things.
Thank you very much!
@@DistinctMastering Since writing that I downloaded it, hooked up my guitar once and haven't gone back to it. Everyday I tell myself, right I'm going to do it today but I am just scared to do it for some reason. I've even bought some Krk rocket 7's and a midi keyboard so I don't know what the f is wrong with me.
I LOVE Ableton but I’m SOLD on Pro Tools now. Artist want to be recorded so it’s time to fill in the market. ✊🏽
Glad I could help!
Samplitude Pro had a lot of these features years ago, and it's one of the least known DAWs out there, but so useful. I remember so many years of using it, but now I'm really enjoying Pro Tools.
Never used that one
@@DistinctMastering might check it out, high quality German software.
there’s a short cut to enable automation on any plugin feature in two click on protools. using the automation enable menu is archaic
There is. To turn automation on, Ctrl+Option+Command-click (PC: Ctrl+Start+Alt-click) on the plug-in parameter. Her is is online so you can follow step by step and read up on it: www.soundonsound.com/techniques/hidden-keyboard-shortcuts-pro-tools#:~:text=To%20turn%20automation%20on%2C%20Ctrl,on%20the%20plug%2Din%20parameter.
@@DistinctMastering then to show that parameter in the track view instantly ctrl + click it BOOM changed the game when i learned this
@@pitchingrass Glad I could help!
@@DistinctMastering i already knew that haha but still nice video. protools for me just easier to create because everything ends up in it anyway
Cool to see you play on both sides of the fence. Coming from PT I am frustrated learning Live. Gonna watch your tutorial.
I use both for different things
Great video! I actually use ableton for at-home stuff and pro tools in university. Would love to see a vid on comping!
@Greacher ableton is DEFINITELY better for beginners. Personally, I prefer ableton over FL, but you'll find tons of people who like FL better. I just find ableton much, much easier to work with. Pro tools is geared towards people who do audio work professionally and kinda sucks to use sometimes, so unless that's your goal, I wouldn't recommend it
Can definitely use a vocal editing/vocal tuning vid
Ok I'm on it!
Thanks for this video and sharing your knowledge on both DAWs. I was wondering, do you think ableton would be better for making instrumentals / beats? maybe a faster workflow? or would you still use pro tools?
Yes it will, Ableton is like a beat machine, Pro Tools is more like a tape recorder. However you can make beats in Pro Tools as well. Some people use pro tools to track their beats into and just mix and master. You need to choose your workflow that suits you best.
So if you wanted to be a rapper / hip hop artist which daws would be the best to get a great sound
It’s honestly not the saw that gives you a great sounds it the user and how you create. The DAW is a tool. Pick the tool that suits your needs and function.
A master in any format has the edge
Agreed know your tools and use what works for you.
I’m a mix engineer and studio producer who has used reason , ableton, ProTools and studio one. Ableton live 11 with Izotope post production suite is by far the best combo I have used. Pro tools is honestly the lower tier of software. It’s just not that good overall. Workflow is horrid compared to Ableton and avid completely takes over admin permissions on your computer an will fuck everything up on the other programs. Now it’s a subscription? I no longer use pro tools yams have turned down or lost quite a bit of business because of it but the smile is from ear to Fuckin ear baby!! Insert a click track??? 🤣🤣🤣 I rest my case.
Everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion. Depending on your needs each program may suit someone better. Pro Tools is amazing for editing and does have features that Ableton does not. Likewise Ableton has features Pro Tools does not, really depends on your preferences in my opinion.
I have both as well, and tell people why ,which is similar to your reasons
Exactly! I knew I was not the only one.
@@DistinctMastering it just makes sense to utilize both engines in making music and it works
@@itstheadventureimtalkingab4016 agreed. They both have their strengths and weaknesses
@@DistinctMastering exactly.. I’ll be following your channel for sure
@@itstheadventureimtalkingab4016 thanks 🙏
hi, sorry for my english. Comparing WARP mode between ableton and PT, ableton engine is extremely better than PT in my opinion and its killing me. I used PT and its work bad in my opinion. You said that the pro tools is good... but i am not sure. Has you made the comparisson with the same audio, example a bass track? Thanks and great video.
For music production (making beats and electronic music) I think Ableton does do a better job. Pro Tools works and is great for fixing issues with timing of recorded instruments but they do not operate in the same way. I look at Ableton like my old MPC2000xl beat machine and Pro Tools like a tape recorder. Thats the best analogy I have for each program. Hope that helps!
Excellent video!
Thank U
Glad you like it! Thank you 🙏
Do one on vocal editing and related ones
What would you like to see? Vocal editing on which DAW?
Protools first, even if you can do abelton live lite 11
pls make a video on vocal comping
I have it on my list for a few requests to make this video. Thanks for watching. Make sure to subscribe for updates and stay tuned!
Avid user of Protools
LOL!
"I'm an Avid user of Pro Tools"
I see what u did there
I didn't even realize ;) (or maybe I did)
An "Avid" user of both. LOL!! ;-)
CHECK OUT “The Weeknd’s Project” from AFTER HOURS ON ABLETON 11 by illangelo, and Lolo Souai’s “High High’s to Low Low’s by STELIOS PHiLi and you’ll see THE POWER OF ABLETON!!!
I am a ableton user and do love it for certain things
Hi man any link to these projects, I have tried to find them but no luck. Thank you in advance
Mix with masters has the lilangelo stuff on their site
i wish ableton had pro tools mix bus sends so bad
You can use audio or return tracks and create mix buss sends. Or you can use ableton groups. It’s not as easy as pro tools but can be done.
pro tools has perpetual license
It did yes but I do not believe anymore. I'm not positive but found this article:
www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/pro-audio/news/avid-pro-tools-perpetual-licenses-still-available-at-bh#:~:text=Anyone%20paying%20attention%20to%20the,fully%20subscription%2Dbased%20business%20model.
5:32 you can literally do this in ableton
You can only draw automation in Ableton you cannot actually pencil the waveform like Pro Tools can. It would be great if it did. You can see a feature request by users here:
forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?t=239821#:~:text=Editing%20audio%20waveforms%20by%20drawing,%2C%20to%20avoid%20%E2%80%9CClicks%E2%80%9D.
Comments here:
gearspace.com/board/ableton-live/1234286-pro-tools-pencil-tool-plugin.html
Would be great but the pencil in Ableton is not the same as the Pro Tools one.
Pros Ableton non subscription
Cons Pro Tools subscription payments
Yes very true about that but Ableton requires an upgrade price with new versions too. I look at it as a business expense.
@@DistinctMastering I love both, but unfortunately don't make money out of music to justify pro tools subscription. I learnt on pro tools in the 90's and when I could finally afford my first 002rack it came bundled with Ableton live 4?(maybe 5 was pro tools 6) and they have lived side by side in my home studio for over 20 years (😞 I'm so old) but now the subscription has forced me to make a decision. I'm going to upgrade my Ableton 10 to 11 and ditch (sadly) my favourite tracking DAW Pro tools. Maybe in a few months of tracking live instruments in Ableton, I'll go back 🤣
Love the channel BTW, discovered today via this video. I watched a few and yours makes me miss pro tools the most. Tab to transient rules!
@@sitonka303 All makes sense.
an 'Avid' user of Pro tools you say? .. I'm sorry.
I do use Pro Tools still for certain things. I use other DAWs too.
@@DistinctMastering I get that it was just a bad joke about AVID audio interfaces.
Pro Tools only having a subscription model now is a very big let down to me tbh. Pro Tools may be the industry standard and in every studio and school, but Ableton Live will always stay my DAW of choice...
It is all a preference. I have just been using both for a long time and I still do use both for different things.
God dammit; fine.
I'll learn the stupid Pro Tools...
EDIT: *Pro Tools is subscription based?!*
Screw that noise
Unfortunately it is now....agree with you on that one!
Everything you say that Ableton doesn't have and Pro Tools have, Ableton ACTUALLY HAVE! You are totally ignorant of what Ableton can do.
Scrub tool for example. Yes you can also do that in Ableton, it's just different and it's also simple.
With all due respect - I never said Ableton can't scrub in the video, I am aware Ableton can do that. I said it does not have a pencil tool to edit the waveform like Pro Tools, scrubbing is just something I do before using the pencil tool and I am sharing that. There are minor differences between programs but I am an avid user of both programs.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. quedaste en el pasdo. Ableton 2024 es mucho mejor
For me it depends what I am doing.
hi i have and mpc one i make beat instrumentals etc im looking to upgrade the work flow with the mpc in mind i use fl as a daw for the mpc but it dosent merry well with the mpc one ive been looking in too ablation 11 how ever with new pro tool version its kinda peak my interest i was wondering what would u suggest im an old pro tool user still have my old pro tools 8 disc lol
If you're a Pro Tools user it might be easier to stick with that. Pro Tools acts like a tape recorder while Ableton is more like an MPC in the computer if you know what I mean. Really up to you they both are great programs.