MTB Gears for Shimano GRX - Garbaruk drivetrain review
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- Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:48 - Garbaruk meets Shimano GRX
03:40 - Cost and Economics
05:14 - Anodize It
06:07 - Wrapping Up
07:22 - Final Pros and Cons
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BAnother top vid! BMCR replaced my 10-42 Sram Rival cassette with a HG compatible Garbaruk 10-50. Changed everything..loving it! Keep up the good reviews!
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Ahhhh thanks mate, appreciate it 😍
Perfectly timed video James, as I'm just starting a Bossi bike build with Pete this week. So much useful information. Cheers 🚴♂️👍👍👍
Oh that’s fantastic! Great to hear it, Pete’s a wizard with this stuff
I'm running the SRAM 11-36T on a GRX 2x11 build. Runs fine with 2 turns of the B screw compared to the 11-32T I run with road tyres. Range is 48x11 4.36 to 31x36 0.86 and you keep the tight spacing.
Been running 10-50 x 40 front for 2 years on 2 bikes: one sram, one grx. Works a treat and looks pretty. Nice review!
Maaaate you were ahead of the curve!
What cassette on the grx?
@@evens92 10-50 garbaruk with the garbaruk long cage. You need an XD free hub to run a 10.
For me it's 2x for life. I love my 30, 42T set-up. Got light used DT swiss wheels, 42 cassette and winter tyres for 250$. Norway got many good deals
When I built my 'monstercross' bike (steel frame drop bar bike with 2.1 inch mtb tyres and wheels) I lost many hours of my life I will never recover working out the best way to get ultra wide range for my bikepacking trips. I dont mind the weight as long as I've got the gearing to see me over the off road mountain climbs, and my camping gear is heavy. I have found in Scotland last year I literally needed the 30t 52t ratio quite a bit surprisingly. I ended up getting the ratio technologies mod to use Sram Eagle with Rival shifters and have never regretted this decision, I did consider this exact setup but needed that tiny bit more range and low end. Now the time is approaching after 3600 miles where i've got to replace it in a month or two and the GX eagle cassette costs nearly as much as the Garbaruk! Many thanks for showing it off, I would really appreciate a long term abuse test though because I worry about investing in wearable parts beyond the mid tier I usually go for, and I tend to stick with what I know even if Sram takes me for a fool charging what they are asking at this point for a pinned together cassette.
One option to consider if you don't mind a square taper BB, is Spa Cycles TD2/RD2 Super Compact Chainset, that can fit down to a 24 tooth little ring! Rather cheap too.
I've been running Garbaruk, (both XD and Microspline) for a while now in 12 speed, so looking at them for GRX is an obvious choice. Thanks for the review.
How does the 12 speed Gabaruk cassette shift compared to the Shimano 12? 😃
Running their XD 10-46 cassette with a Shimano SLX derailleur on my gravel bike. 4000 miles in and going strong.
I have a Garbaruk XD cassette on my mountain bike. It's lighter than XX1, costs less than X01, and it looks cool. I highly recommend their products if you can wait a month to get it.
How's the long term durability in comparison to the specially machined and treated XX and X01 cassettes?
I second that
@@philhunt1442Fabulous durability. I have not broken them yet. 3 seasons in still going.
Very helpful. Thx
Good stuff
Recently I bought some Garbaruk parts after I have been using a Garbaruk oval chainring for over 2 years. Most of the time I ride my gravelbike on really flat terrain in a good mix of on and off road and for that type of use I'm using a 11-32 SRAM cassette. I found out that Shimano created GRX 1X purely for 11-40 and 11-42 cassettes and only then it all works better than almost anything else. With the 11-32 SRAM cassette this is quite different, shifting is not how it should and can be. I replaced the standard derailleur cage for a Garbaruk cage with the Garbaruk pulleys and that was the best thing I could have done. Now the whole set up not only shifts perfect with the 11-40 and 11-42 cassettes as Shimano likes you to use, also with a 11-32 SRAM cassette everything is way better than it was and also with a 11-46 cassette all's fine. Didn't try a bigger cog but I'm convinced it will work as it works with the cassettes with smaller cogs. Very happy with my purchase as my bike shifts better than it ever has done with the by Shimano not advised cassettes.
The GRX 820 12-speed groupset is a secret weapon no-one ia talking about. The poor mans mullet with no hacking required!!
You can also get the garbaruk wolf tooth link and a MTB cassette and be even cheaper.
And those Garbaruk cogs and a solid SRAM XO chain ... you can ride it until it is worn to the bone. I have a replacement set laying around, but I am still running it for another winter season. I thought the cogs would really start to break down by now ... but no still running. Shifting does become slower near this end though ...
i had fitness bike for a while with 28mm tires. i decided to kinda get it on gravel, and to 1X. So i fitted 35mm tires and SLX 11-46 cassete with SLX shifter and derraileur. But i dont have cranks. Im thinking of GRX810 cuz 600 is not available.
Question: Can I change my DI2 GRX 815 cage to a Garbaruk cage and one of their bigger cassettes? Running an extreme 48 x 31 in the front (2x) and a 11-50T in the back? Maybe crazy but just very curious. I get the idea it would work.....point .62 ratio!!! Curious if it works what chain length would support this.....or maybe that is the caveat!
I use my grx with the 11-46 XT cassette only using the goat link from wolftooth and the long derailleur. Works flawless.
You don't even need that, I've been using my GRX 800 group with a an XT 11-46 cassette for 3 years with derailleur hanger extender.
@@MAGAIVERdo you mean with no hanger extender?
FYI SRAM 10-42 with stock RD works great (need an XDR wheel)
A long term review would be interesting especially with the pulley bearing.
I have the steel bearing ones they have been going for 15,000 ish dirty Cornish road miles, top one has only just started to feel like it needs a clean spins freely tho bottom one still doing its job and looking good while it does it. You can fit them in a normal shimano cage too, just file off the little tab, Its a narrow wide jockey wheel it holds the chain no probs. I think the only negative I can think of is that going from standard resin to alloy wheels theres a very slight sound increase which is generic and so slight its splitting hairs for the sake of it.
Yep, I’ll echo those comments about it being a bit noisier! As you said, adding in extra metal makes it sound a little more… tinny maybe?
@@JustRideAdelaide adding more metal does indeed make it sound more metallic in nature. Not a better or worse thing just a more of the same thing, sort of.
I’ve run it on two bikes and it’s been flawless. I run a 10-50 and 42 up front.
What cassette are you running?
@@evens92 Garbaruk 10-50 11-speed on XD
@@jabrobbins along with grx derailleur and garabuk cage?
Yes, Garbaruk cage with GRX derailleur
@@jabrobbins awesome, thankyou
If anyone stumbles across this after the launch of the “unstoppable” GRX group set you can do this for cheaper by mixing a Microshift Shimano 12mtb bar end with a m6100 rear d and cassette
Instead of a GRX 1x I went with Ultegra shifters, XT 11 speed derailleur with Tanpan 11, SLX 11-46 cassette and GRX 1x 40T chainring.
I'm happy with my Sensah SRX Pro groupset (11T - 52T in the back and 44T in the front). After I brought it to my bike mechanic for adjustments, the shifting is super smooth and a heck of a lot cheaper. I paid $265 for everything.
Hi Robi, did you bought Sensah SRX from Aliexpress? Mind share what cassette and chainring you are using? Are they also from China?
I also have same shifters. How many chain links did you use?
hi very help video! I would to know are these compatible this GRX-600 1x crankset if I will replace to my XT crankset and 11 speed cogs? Pls. advise & Thanks for your help.
I just set this up on my Grx 812 x1.
Did you get any chain rub on the derailer cage near the bottom pulley? Mine does it on the big cog.
46 fits stock long cage grx with zero issues
if u have an xd hub, maybe a 1x12 with a 9-50t e13,leo or ZTTO
Can you fit that cage on a GRX 810 derailleur?
Does your Garbaruk upper guide pulley float on its axle bolt, or is it rigidly fixed against the derailleur cage?
nice vid thanks. i prefer the 25$ sollution by bikesauce - just because of the price
I am a fan of garbaruk, but after chewing through a 34t oval chainring in 3 months and another buddy chewing through their cassette in 6months, I am reluctant to give them another try. I am hoping that the extra teeth on their Gravel/road chainrings will help with durability. But if you’re a powerful rider or rides in harsh conditions, keep an eye on the component wear.
In terms of function, they are A1. Chainrings run dead quiet and the long teeth allowed me to remove my chain guide and between the ring and chainguide weight savings it was an easy 100g Vs previous setup. They also clear mud very well.
Hopefully the 40t ring will last longer. Fingers crossed, they look amazing on most bikes!
I wore through the first cassette fairly quickly but I rode it a lot in gross winter conditions so I'm not sure whether it's worse on balance than a Shimano or SRAM alternative. I'm using it with a wax chain now so that should see it all last much longer.
I hope they can improve the durability, their stuff is so nice looking. How many KM did you get out of your cassette?
is there a garubaruk cage for deore m6000??
my drivetrain setup is 3x10.
Chainrings: 42-32-24
cassette: 11-36t
rear derailleur: deore m6000-rd sgs
front derailleur: deore fd-m6000-d
How does the derraileur fit under 50t casette without hanger extension, wheb it is designed for maximum 34t ?
I went with garbaruk but with a sram force 11spd rear mech, the extended cage and garbaruk 50t 11spd cassette and unfortunately it didn't work well. Weather the cage was bent or cassette was defective I just could not workout why the gears were off, shifting was fine but it was like I didn't have enough cable tension and too much cable tension at the same time, the chain alignment was off opposite ways each end of the cassette (if that makes any sense)
Anyway I ended up swapping out to 52t sram eagle and used the ratio 12 spd shifter upgrade kit and magic it works perfect and could adjust cable tension just like normal. This was unfortunate because the garbaruk cassette was an amazing piece of kit and looked unreal, also was lightweight, im sure the problem with old setup was the fact I was using a road derailleur and it couldn't handle the long cage and large cassette.
I have got exactly the same problem with my Rival rear mech. It’s really unfortunate because it looks so damn cool. But shift quality is more important for me. Will probably have to go back to my 11-42 cassette
@@philippmuller9797 did you put the extended cage on it? To this day I still don't know what the problem was with my original setup. Ratio upgrade is great, but then you need to invest in new chain, cassette and derailleur and the ratio kit... not cheap, but it was great to get the 52t on the rear
@@KurtisPape yes, I have the full Garbaruk Setup. I will eventually go with the Rival Etap I guess..then you can just use the mtb derailleur
How about a review of a goatleg and shimano 11-51 cassette on grx 810?
Just want to know what series if the GRX derailer. I have GRX810 and garbaruk they only have cages for Shimano 812-817🤔
pretty noob gravel/CX-er. am looking at 2022 trek Boone 6 CX bike, w/ keen eye to mullet its stock GRX back to 50T..52T. comes w/ a 40T front GRX (not sure if some kind of 38T or 36T front might work -- but I'd probably do that, too, if I could). sounds like Garbaruk should work for the back at least, eh?
cool video.
I choose 2x11 with grx 30-46 and 11-40 XT cassette wich is defiantly a better solution i guess. All standard and it works perfekt.
This combination has a much better granny gear (1.67 vs 2.04) with 40-622 and of course smaller steps on the road because of 2x.
16% with bikepacking gear is no problem anymore.
And I get all my parts everywhere in the world and don´t have to order them from Disneyland and be immobilize.
Hi! Which model will work with GRX 2X (RD-RX810)?
Mate this garbaruk cassette works with shimano grx wheels ?
I got an annoying squeal coming from the rear derraileur. anyone like me? I changed the pulley to 11-16T
It's actually Ukrainian brand but manufactured in Poland :)
Can you use this to get more range out of a sram system?
Looks like a Redshift shock stop stem on the Bossi. Can we expect a review soon?
You can certainly expect a review, but I dunno how soon. I have a biiiig pile of reviews to get through
I really like their parts but im waiting for a shimano road 1x cassette from them 11 36 or 11 34 I love the one piece design as much as my alloy freehub body does but really don't need that off road spread of gears. Yeah sram red cassette nearly fits that bill but I want purple and gold!
Those 1x Garbaruk road setups are freakin hot!
@@JustRideAdelaide got a black n gold 1x set up on my Scott Foil, it's super tidy.
I'm running 11-36T SRAM cassette with my 2X11 GRX. Works fine. About 5% short of the low in this video.
You are running di2. A cheaper method would just easily switch the derailleur to XT di2 and then grab a 11-46 or even 11-51 (using a wolftooth) shimano cassette. You will need a new chain. The
Also if you are using mechanical set up the standard GRX 812 derailleur with a wolftooth can easily clear a 11-46 cassette. So this way you will save hundreds of more dollars.
Garbaruk set up cost a lot more, but you will get the bling and the super lightweight cassette.
GRX 1x works fine with Shimano M5100 11-51 cassette. Only need more links in the chain and the B-screw all the way in.
Big fan of Garbaruks products. Amazing light weight cassettes.
likewise GRX 2x works fine with 11-40 cassette (SLX or XTR or even chinese ones), which I've found to be optimal. 1x is cool and all, but GRX 2x works really well too, at a very decent price point.
wow, for real? that seems like the quickest and cheapest solve. did you already have a longer arm? you didn't.. need a longer cage?
No, standard cage, hanger and everything else. Shifting isn't as crisp but works flawlessly.
@@trykpaa wow, thanks! I *just* bought a Trek Boone CX bike w/ GRX so am going to see how I can get a M5100 11-51 into it (I *suspect* I might need a cage extender -- since that CX bike comes with a laughable 40 1by x 11-34 -- nearly useless in the Oakland hills :D)
@@trykpaa what shifters did you use? I've been asking around and everyone has mentioned to me that they have been using the grx 800 shifter to make it work. I have the 600
Will this work with GRX 2x ?
I am looking for something like a 30t front ring and 46t back for really steep off-road climbs
And if so, which GRX detail er should it go with?
Thanks
Nah no way it'll work with 2x. The cage couldn't gather up the colossal amount of slack chain you'd have.
i always felt grx 2x was the better option for range but this changes things a bit.
I thought the same thing but damn this Garbaruk stuff lets you have your cake and eat it too with the (mostly) sweet Shimano shifting and big ass gear range 🤌
Knowing about this option made my GRX 1x decision even easier.
@@Volkmannx let me throw you a bit.
I use a default chain on both an 11-34 wheelset (700c) and a 11-40 wheelset (650b). No shifting issues. Shifts very fast.
Well running the GRX812 2x with a long XT SGS Cage, 11-42 Casette and 30-46 Chainrings still gives you more range, if you dont mind going 2x.
The smart move is to buy GRX 2X, and slap a 11/40 XT cassette on.
1X sucks, it doesnt work for gravel. But its incredibly hip and ever so cool.
what type of chain do you use
Hallo ! Cassette 11-50 ? Front star 44 ?
What bike do you have? Looks so so good 👌🏼
Bossi Grit. It’s been a great bike for the last couple of years 😍
how has the Garbaruk held up? considering one over an Eagle 10-52 for my gravel bike ....
It's held up according to expectations. I've just switched to a fresh cassette and chainring, directly replacing like-for-like the ones in this video because this bike became a bad weather warrior and I chewed everything up.
I have 2 setups w/ Gabaruk, but its on SRAM XO1 and GX. The XO1 setup w/ a spending eThirteen Helix 9-46 cassette and SRAM 12sp chain is probably the most silky smooth shift experience I have had. The other one isn't quite as amazing, but its with a Sunrace 11-46.
I do have a question though since it's on topic w/ the video. I am getting ready to do a new gravel bike build, and picked up Shimano GRX 810 (1x11), and I am considering do the Gabaruk conversion on this bike as well. With the Gabaruk cage, does it allow you to run 2X? I couldn't find much information on what happens when you change the rear derailleur cage. I've heard of people using the XT cage for extra range, but not sure if it opens up the use for 2X.
do you think the sram 12sp chain goes with the grx ? well
@@imanjelvani5997 Depends on the chain.
I believe SRAM chains are different than Shimano. For SRAM, the width of the chain links is narrower, but the inside of the chain where the teeth go is the same width for 11 and 12sp. So I'd say you can run a SRAM 12sp chain on GRX, but probably not Shimano 12sp chain.
@@josh33172 perfekt thanks :)
I wanted to use the XX1 chain on my grx with the 11-50 garbaruk casette with the cage and pulleys from gabaruk.
On the website of Garbaruk you can read that the Garbaruk derailleur cage is for 1X use only. Until now I didn't find anything about 2X use.
@@tomtiehatten4346 I understand.
I am also aware that they state "1X Only", but it can work just fine as long you're not using some extreme chain combinations.
I can say definitively that it does not work with a 50/34 and 10-50 cassette. If you have enough links to get you chain to 50-50, it will be too long for anything for the bottom 6 gears with the 34T.
However if you're using something like a 42/30 or 42/28 and 10-50, it works.
I wanted to try it with a more traditional 46/30 w/ 11-50, but by that time my chainrings were already changed.
How was long-terme ?
Would want a smaller chain ring for lower gearing.
Garbaruk also offers 38T, Wolftooth even 36T.
I’d probably have chosen a 44t for a 700c wheel setup
I’m assuming you can’t just use a Shimano 46T and perhaps SRAM rear cassette and a Wolftooth gear spacer.
You could with a freehub body change, but it wouldn't look anywhere near as pimp.
Also wouldn't run as well because the wolftooth road link just moves the guide pulley further from the cassette. They are generally a last resort for me especially when the replacement cage is under $100.
😮 It costs how much? 😮
No video review this week?
What is going on? Are you I'll?
This means I have to watch TV!
You bastard!🤣😆
Oh no don't watch TV! And no video, too busy with photography jobs at the moment. Maaaaybe I'll have time this weekend
Seems a bit expensive. It wouldn’t be quite as bling but why not just put an XT rear mech with an 11-46 cassette?
Because that's a far more expensive solution 😂
All you need for the Garbaruk upgrade is the cage and cassette rather than a whole new derailleur and cassette
Also tragically that doesn't work because the amount of cable travel per shift is different between road and mtb on both shimano and sram on 11 and 12 speed (though not 10 speed and older). There is a whole segment of products designed to address this exact issue of needing sub 18 gear inches for very mountainous terrain when bikepacking (and other wide range cases like in the video). Its a very real problem neither sram or shimano have an adequate solution for sadly except things like AXS which I am very wary of for a variety of reasons. This is just one way to get that sweet do it all setup where you can load the bike up and go over a rocky mountain pass and still get some decent speed on the road.
I had problems with garbaruk 10-46 cassette-xtr di2.
Shifting was much better with xtr cassette
I agree. To retain the buttery smooth shifting of my xtr, I opted not to swap out my cassette, but instead delete my 17 tooth cog, and add just a single low gear cog from Kore. I retain the Shimano interface between cassette and derailleur, but increase my low end by six teeth
Any long term feedback on the durability of the Garbaruk gear? I’m specifically interested in the chainring since it’s the only oval that I’ve found that is listed as compatible with Shimano HG+.
I’m wanting to run GRX cranks, 10-45 SLX or XT cassette, XTR chain and a GX AXS derailleur. I might be better off with Sram cassettes and XO1 chains but Shimano has much better gearing options for their cassettes.
I've been running one of them on my MTB both with an XTR 12s chain and also a XX1 chain. Both work great. I think the gravel/road rings will be no different.
I've been using a Garbaruk chainring on a GRX crankset for over two years now (3000 kilometers) and although some of the color on the teeth has disappeared it still works like it's new.
0:00 producing in Poland, but originally from Ukraine 🇺🇦
What chain??? 116 are to less!!
Made in Poland, but Garbaruk is Ukrainian brand.
Batman
It's not Polish brand, it's Ukrainian 👌
Made in Poland
@@slodziak222222by ukrainians)
Garbaruk in`t Polish🙃