Maybe you should call the series "The Cave of Bad Ideas and Limited Parts and Resources"! Whatever you call it, I'm liking this series very much. Party on,Russ;)
Thanks for this review. I'd heard of the Garbaruk solution but you're the first trusted reviewer that I've ever seen actually try it out. Look forward to seeing your next experiment :)
Back in February of 2019 I took a leap of faith and slapped this cage on a Force 1 derailleur for a monstercross build even though Garbaruk told me it wasn't compatible, then let them know it was a perfect fit. Gambling with frankensteining bike parts together is a vice.
Great show. I follow this with some interest since before GRX, the option for brifters with mtb gear range was mainly with SRAM. There is another option though, which is a MTB shifter routed thru a thinner road bar (often a fixie handlebar) running a XT RD. Brake levers would be some road style ones like Tektro RL340/520. I have run this setup on a couple of mini velos. It gives indexed shifting and functions like bar end shifters with the advantage of not being bar ends and easier to reach for.
Path Less Pedaled I’m a bit of a curmudgeon, but that cassette is sick! And the colors are garish they are perfect! Nicely matched cage too! If you were going to run a vote, this setup would get the nod!
Cool cassette mut why not use a NX 11v 11-50 cassette? It would shift ok right? i mean the chain is still a SRAM chain. I understand you got the components from Garbaruk but from a cost perspective it is more interesting to use a SRAM NX cassette.
@@timlagas Look, theres nothing I can say thats going to make you 100% happy. Theres a million things I could have done and I did what I did because it's what I had.
This looks legit. I am racing the Atlas mountain race in Morocco in February. I am running a 36 front and 42 back and improved my fitness to be just fine. I'll find out. Otherwise this would be a dream and oh so shiny :)
Just switched my setup to SRAM Rival 1x. It’ll cool to know about this company for future upgrades. Poland is producing some interest cycling stuff these days.
My coworker got the Shiftmate #9 from Peter White Cycles. I don't think it's on their website, but they have it. Or at least they did a month or two ago. He is pleased with how it works.
Very interested in this series. I have Ultegra and, after injury to my left hand, I can no longer shift from the small to large chainring and can barely operate the front brake. After watching your review of the Gevenalle, I'm greatly encouraged that I may be able to rework my road bike and continue riding it. Thanks!
Thanks for the awareness on this product. I'm looking at a build with Force AXS wireless, but want to get a much larger 12spd cassette and still keep the 2x up front (with power meter). We're looking at starting with a Wolftooth adapter, but this might be another option to try.
Because of advancing age, I recently converted two bikes to straight bars instead of drops. For old Shimano 9 speed this is a piece of cake - everything is interchangeable, shifters and derailleurs, road and mountain. For ten and eleven speeds be prepared to do some homework. Pull ratios differ between road and mountain, SRAM and Shimano.
Keep up the great work! Original mountain bikes were built the same way... tenacity and always thinking outside of the box! Be free my friend! Great episodes
It may not give you as much range as this, but there's also the Wolftooth RoadLink as well (they have something called a GoatLink for similar applications but different systems). it's only a $20 part (+shipping) or something like that.
That derailleur cage and jockey wheels are sweet. I love that blocky CNC’d look, it speaks to craftsmanship. Shimano and SRAM parts look like they were styled by the same people who designed the Mountain Dew bottles. It’s like they carved a wax model of a derailleur and left it in the Arizona sun for a few hours, then slapped a bunch of loud stickers on it. Great design if you wear Vans and a Tapout shirt.
Ive managed to pair ltwoo r7 shifters with a shimano cues u6000 derailleur with a 2×10 With 38 28 chainrings and 11 to 50 cassette and it works quite well
@PathLessPedaledTV somehow it works quite well even tho it's a very experimental thing it does have a weird thing with it is that you kinda have to treat it like a friction shifter however once you've gotten used to it it works well and the front derailleur even shifts with the clutch on
@PathLessPedaledTV no all I had to do was put the derailleur on and tune it however it isn't perfect as I'm limited on the b tension because of the 2× chainrings
Appreciate the entertaining and useful series here. One request, do you have any smaller cassettes you can test with with modified derailleur cage? 11-32, 11-36, 11-40? I run a 2 wheelset setup so my 700c road/light gravel setup uses tighter gearing. Will definitely get the 11-50 for my 650b wheels.
I bought a cross bike I need to convert gearing. It has force rear derraileur and shifter. 38T 110bcd force crank and 11x32 rear. I feel the 38T may work for her with a 50T or 52T rear. I have a number of cassettes so I really need a longer cage...is this correct?
sram you can use a 10 speed mtb derailleur with clutch on 11 speed shifters 2x11 and 11-36 works good that's because 10 speed mtb derailleur is exact actuation and 2x I have a extra long XO derailleur with a 11-40 cassette and 48/32 in the front it works no tricks
Dude nice video. I think I am going to do this. I already have an 11-46 cassette and my Force 1 derailleur is barely hacking it. I can optimize shifting and keep this cassette or go to an 11-52 if I want and that'll be plenty.
I got the KCNC Eagle replacement cage and the Sunshine 11-52 cassette and everything works well. Pretty surprised. I thought it might inherently shift poorly because of the giant scale but it works perfectly. I have no reason to try anything different like a cassette with a 9 cog. I went with a 42t chainring and am pretty happy with it. The replacement cage didn't go on seamlessly, but I figured it out.
Thanks for experimentation! I may do a similar thing with a shimano grx rear derailleur and their mountain bike cage and pulley (sometimes deore or xt cage and pulley are available as spare parts). Do you think this will work? (as I need to get a whole new grx derailleur with those mountain bike spare parts)
I am looking at setting up something similar to this for a drop bar 29er build I am working on. I understand the parameters and resources you are working under but I am looking at setting this up with a Shimano drivetrain. Do you think it's possible and do you think I should use a road or mtb derailleur? I would probably be using an 11-50t sunrace cassette but this video has me thinking about using this garbaruk cassette. Thanks for the experimentation and for saving us all time and money.
It seems a great solution. I have been thinking of changing the GS medium cage of my Shimano Ultegra for an SGS but unfortunately Shimano only produces SS and GS cages for that model and the SGS of other models do not slot in. I guess that cage cannot be fitted in an ultegra rear derailleur, can be? Any other compatible model?
Awesome series Russ. Enjoyed the journey. 🙋🏻♂️ for more. Out of interest...and not meaning to trigger your “OK Internet” nerve...butttttt......thinking a sub-compact 2x (e.g., 40/24) should work with the Bombora’s front ring clearances? 😬 Having said that, just flipped the double on my Straggler for a 1x so. (And might try this hack down the track. Again, love your work and greeting rom Australia mate 👍🏼
Is it possible to use the garbaruk cage on a 2x11 rival rd? (specs says it's only for the 1x version) I'm currently looking for a way to use an 11-36 cassette without swapping rd
This is exactly what I'm looking for! Will this work with my force 22 setup? Would it extend my short cage mech enough to handle a 36t rear or do I need to get a medium cage mech to start with? I see you have a new vid out with the jtech add on. What's your recommended option at this point in time? Thank you!!
Will this also work with a sram rival 22 Rear derailleur? I believe it has a max tooth of 32. I wanted it to go as high as 48t if possible on that particular groupset
Have you ever swapped out a SRAM 11rear Road derailleur for a 10 speed - SRAM GX rear derailleur to obtain a 42 or 46 gear range using still the SRAM road components?
I have a gravel bike that I originally specced with Sram Rival 1x11 groupset, 42t front chainring and 11-42 casette in the back. Looking to upgrade with the garbaruk long cage as well as their 10-50t casette. Do you reckon chain length will be ok if I use the same? Or should it be longer/shorter? thanks
does this work only on sram road derailleur or does it work with mtb ones too? If I have a 2x rival setup what would be the largest cassette I can use? I take this doesn't add a clutch either? edit: do you know where one can get a eagle nx, gx, or higher rd cage?
1) Cage was originally designed to work with the mtb. In the vid, I said that Garbaruk never tested it on Rival, so this is new territory. 2) Don't know. 3) It does nothing to the clutch only extends the cage. Either your derailleur has a clutch or not, this won't add or take it away.
These kind of derailleurs and pretty much all 11 and 12spd SRAM MTB rear derailleurs are 1x specific. Your 2x Rival is very different to this 1x Rival. Even if you could bolt this cage, or an Eagle NX etc. cage to your current derailleur, it wouldn't work with a 2x setup (and I highly doubt it would work at all). If you want a 2x derailleur with a clutch, your best bet would be to go with a 10spd SRAM GX rear derailleur (it works with both 10 and 11spd road levers, even some factory bikes come with this setup). It has a clutch, and it can do 2x. Officially the biggest cassette you can run with the GX is a 36T, not sure how much more you could push it in a 2x setup. Aftermarket and/or more expensive cassettes don't necessarily last longer than stock cassettes, sometimes they are less durable. Aftermarket cassettes are mostly about saving weight and offering unique options.
@@PathLessPedaledTV hi sir i wish you could reply, i will be going to the bike shop tomorrow about 70kms away from my place, planning to buy an ultegra di2 or the sram and just buy a garbaruk kit, what is the max chainring T the garbaruk can? thanks
Why not just use a sram rear derailleur with Xactuation that has the same 1:1 ratio as road? I've also done a Shimano di2 setup and swapped the short cage for a long. But this was 5 years ago,assume compatibility is similar now.
Lower gears exist for a reason. Mountain biking, loaded touring, steep off road bikepacking, riding with kids, carrying groceries ip a hill, etc., Sometimes people ride bikes with more than GU packets in a jersey pocket on nicely graded surfaces.
200+ bucks for a cassette and 70 for pulley? You could get lower gearing with a Claris 3x8 groupset in that price ;) Although I must admit that this cassette looks stunning!
Still cheaper than $300 SRAM Eagle cassette and $700 derailleur and $400 shifter. You could get lower gearing with a lot of things. Who the hell would ride Claris if they didn't have to?
@@PathLessPedaledTV cable disc's or hydraulic? I'm looking for options to go 11 42 11 speed but I need new hydro brifters. I could go with friction shifting, but then Id still need hydro brakes? Unless I just got sole bb7s and then started all over with a rival cable set up?
Hi, Can you tell me what is the most compliant drop handlebar with a little flare that you can recommend? Sadly can't afford carbon, so aluminum would be my target.
10 speed road shifters are compatible with MTB rear mechs up to the 9 speed group set, still gives 10 speeds (Shimano). At least a 36 on the back so 1 to 1, and can run easier gears (40t) With SRAM, the standard force RD should manage a 40t garbaruk cassette, per reports on the internet, so 1 to 1 on a 40t chain ring, and 10x40 so fine for the road But this extended RD should be great, must try it, if I ever need a 50......
Sorry to be so offtopic but does anybody know a way to get back into an instagram account..? I stupidly forgot my account password. I love any tricks you can offer me!
@Myles Jasiah Thanks so much for your reply. I found the site thru google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Seems to take a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Good on you for learning some bike knowledge then sharing it with us! Cage swaps have been around for as long as there were different length cages or someone was willing to create a longer cage. Good to know the method is alive and kicking into the 21st century! PS - don’t feel you have to reply to every comment, especially negative or knot-headed ones. Focus on the positive!
Nice one Russ!! As a side note, it's a bummer that you gotta explain/justify yourself to viewers who still haven't caught onto what this series is actually all about. I don't have a gravel/adventure bike, and I don't understand a lot of this stuff, but I do like how you present your videos, which is why I keep watching. Love the color combos too!! All you need now is a coat of pink cashmere 😅😉😎
I put an e.thirteen 9-46 on my XD White Industries rear hub, and have been running it for a couple years with a 1X SRAM Force group, 38T front ring, works great. Eagerly awaiting the SRAM 1x12 wide-range drop-bar drivetrain. (Also have a bike with SRAM AXS Eagle cassette / drop-bar Force shifters, and it's excellent.)
Russ, I love all of your videos but really loved this one. You're giving me some "bad ideas". I'd love to do this to my Surly. Right now I have the dreaded 50/34 compact road chainring with an 11/32 cassette, (105). I hate it. When I have some extra funds I'll try this for sure. Thanks.
Hot Damm dig Doug you found the right stuff I found a new route that I like to ride it is in California they call it (air line hwy) it is a quiet road and follows the fault line the only hard part is water unless you know where to go. Hollister to Paso Robles. I have road this route three times now.
Success! Very awesome Russ. Will be interested to see how that cassette stands up wear and tear, my guess it more than likely fine especially with the larger cogs and distributions of wear.
Got a 11-50T cassette working with Apex1 and the Garbaruk cage over the weekend. Thanks for sharing this hack!
Cave of bad ideas is my favorite new series. Also so cool my postcard made it!
Maybe you should call the series "The Cave of Bad Ideas and Limited Parts and Resources"! Whatever you call it, I'm liking this series very much. Party on,Russ;)
I should rename it that. Maybe it will cut down on asinine comments.
"Cave of Available Ideas"
Those colors are absolutely sickkkkk!!!! Your bike is awesome!
Thanks for this review. I'd heard of the Garbaruk solution but you're the first trusted reviewer that I've ever seen actually try it out. Look forward to seeing your next experiment :)
Back in February of 2019 I took a leap of faith and slapped this cage on a Force 1 derailleur for a monstercross build even though Garbaruk told me it wasn't compatible, then let them know it was a perfect fit.
Gambling with frankensteining bike parts together is a vice.
Prince-purple pulley, Let’s Go Crazy!
Don’t let the elevator (or the comment section) bring you down, Russ. Merry Christmas! 🎁🎄
Great show.
I follow this with some interest since before GRX, the option for brifters with mtb gear range was mainly with SRAM.
There is another option though, which is a MTB shifter routed thru a thinner road bar (often a fixie handlebar) running a XT RD.
Brake levers would be some road style ones like Tektro RL340/520.
I have run this setup on a couple of mini velos.
It gives indexed shifting and functions like bar end shifters with the advantage of not being bar ends and easier to reach for.
www.gevenalle.com/product/hydraulic-1x12/
Great series. It’s like a modern version of “handyman’s corner”.
I miss the cage of bad ideas videos! You're awesome Russ
Here's hoping sram does a cable 12 speed brifter in the spring and this derailleur setup will work with that and an eagle cassette!
***UPDATE**** Cassette is hardened steel, only the blue cog is aluminum. Assumed it was Al because it was so dang light!
Path Less Pedaled I’m a bit of a curmudgeon, but that cassette is sick! And the colors are garish they are perfect! Nicely matched cage too!
If you were going to run a vote, this setup would get the nod!
Cool cassette mut why not use a NX 11v 11-50 cassette? It would shift ok right? i mean the chain is still a SRAM chain. I understand you got the components from Garbaruk but from a cost perspective it is more interesting to use a SRAM NX cassette.
Tim Lagas sure. Could do that. Would be heavier.
@@PathLessPedaledTV okay good point but I thought saving grams wasn't your thing ;)
@@timlagas Look, theres nothing I can say thats going to make you 100% happy. Theres a million things I could have done and I did what I did because it's what I had.
I think the premier thing is kind of fun 👍
Really looking forward to those 9-speed experiments. Keep it up!
10 speed road-mtb SRAM cross compatible. I used Apex+ X7 derailleur 2x10
Just ordered cage and pulleys. :) thanks for the video. I hope you get credit for the purchase links! :)
Best video of the series! Keep it up bro! Watching all these videos make me want to make the jump from 10 speed to 11 speed!
This looks legit. I am racing the Atlas mountain race in Morocco in February. I am running a 36 front and 42 back and improved my fitness to be just fine. I'll find out. Otherwise this would be a dream and oh so shiny :)
I was so happy to see the masking tape in the tool box.
Just switched my setup to SRAM Rival 1x. It’ll cool to know about this company for future upgrades. Poland is producing some interest cycling stuff these days.
Awesome. Have also ordered this setup. How long is your chain?
My coworker got the Shiftmate #9 from Peter White Cycles. I don't think it's on their website, but they have it. Or at least they did a month or two ago. He is pleased with how it works.
Very interested in this series. I have Ultegra and, after injury to my left hand, I can no longer shift from the small to large chainring and can barely operate the front brake. After watching your review of the Gevenalle, I'm greatly encouraged that I may be able to rework my road bike and continue riding it. Thanks!
Here is a suggestion- use APEX 2x shifters and X7 (2x) Dereilleur 🤔 it gives you up to 42t range
I'm running a 44t 1x setup with an apex1 rear derailluer, a rival 11 speed brifter and a 11-42 cassette on my cross bike.
Runs good.
3x9 shimano alivio groupset is 108 dollars for all components.I like watching.😁
i have a nice boat anchor i could sell to you, interested?
Thanks for the awareness on this product. I'm looking at a build with Force AXS wireless, but want to get a much larger 12spd cassette and still keep the 2x up front (with power meter). We're looking at starting with a Wolftooth adapter, but this might be another option to try.
still get a laugh with that opening Russ way to keep things light
Because of advancing age, I recently converted two bikes to straight bars instead of drops. For old Shimano 9 speed this is a piece of cake - everything is interchangeable, shifters and derailleurs, road and mountain. For ten and eleven speeds be prepared to do some homework. Pull ratios differ between road and mountain, SRAM and Shimano.
These items don't seem to be available on Garbaruk's page anymore. Is there an alternative similar?
Keep up the great work! Original mountain bikes were built the same way... tenacity and always thinking outside of the box! Be free my friend! Great episodes
Works the other way to. I have a deore xt shadow 9 speed mtb mech on a 10 speed road bike shifter using a cassette from a mtb for extra gear range.
Works until you get 11spd and then all cross-compatibility goes out the window.
Awesome. Love the colors
It may not give you as much range as this, but there's also the Wolftooth RoadLink as well (they have something called a GoatLink for similar applications but different systems). it's only a $20 part (+shipping) or something like that.
We used it in previous episodes of the series. Was looking for a solution that didn't require it.
That derailleur cage and jockey wheels are sweet. I love that blocky CNC’d look, it speaks to craftsmanship. Shimano and SRAM parts look like they were styled by the same people who designed the Mountain Dew bottles. It’s like they carved a wax model of a derailleur and left it in the Arizona sun for a few hours, then slapped a bunch of loud stickers on it. Great design if you wear Vans and a Tapout shirt.
Ive managed to pair ltwoo r7 shifters with a shimano cues u6000 derailleur with a 2×10
With 38 28 chainrings and 11 to 50 cassette and it works quite well
Send me a vid. I want to see it work. On paper it shouldn't be compatible since the R7 doesn't use the same pull as Cues.
@PathLessPedaledTV somehow it works quite well even tho it's a very experimental thing it does have a weird thing with it is that you kinda have to treat it like a friction shifter however once you've gotten used to it it works well and the front derailleur even shifts with the clutch on
@PathLessPedaledTV also how do I send videos via TH-cam im guessing I could use Instagram
@@kobidwyer7464DM via Instagram. Did you have to modify anything?
@PathLessPedaledTV no all I had to do was put the derailleur on and tune it however it isn't perfect as I'm limited on the b tension because of the 2× chainrings
Great Hack Russ, do you have any idea whether this will work on an older Rival 10 speed derailleur?
Appreciate the entertaining and useful series here. One request, do you have any smaller cassettes you can test with with modified derailleur cage? 11-32, 11-36, 11-40? I run a 2 wheelset setup so my 700c road/light gravel setup uses tighter gearing. Will definitely get the 11-50 for my 650b wheels.
Anything sub 50 will work. Stock Rival does 46t easy.
Hey @pathlesspaddled, Russ, you think that cage extender would work on a force derailleur and force 1 shifter combo?
I bought a cross bike I need to convert gearing. It has force rear derraileur and shifter. 38T 110bcd force crank and 11x32 rear. I feel the 38T may work for her with a 50T or 52T rear. I have a number of cassettes so I really need a longer cage...is this correct?
I'm gonna try an 11 speed Sram road shifter with an 11 speed Shimano SLX mtb derailleur. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
Well?
sram you can use a 10 speed mtb derailleur with clutch on 11 speed shifters 2x11 and 11-36 works good
that's because 10 speed mtb derailleur is exact actuation and 2x
I have a extra long XO derailleur with a 11-40 cassette and 48/32 in the front it works no tricks
Dude nice video. I think I am going to do this. I already have an 11-46 cassette and my Force 1 derailleur is barely hacking it. I can optimize shifting and keep this cassette or go to an 11-52 if I want and that'll be plenty.
Checked on ebay and there are Eagle replacement long cages by KCNC for $90.
I got the KCNC Eagle replacement cage and the Sunshine 11-52 cassette and everything works well. Pretty surprised. I thought it might inherently shift poorly because of the giant scale but it works perfectly. I have no reason to try anything different like a cassette with a 9 cog. I went with a 42t chainring and am pretty happy with it. The replacement cage didn't go on seamlessly, but I figured it out.
Thanks for experimentation! I may do a similar thing with a shimano grx rear derailleur and their mountain bike cage and pulley (sometimes deore or xt cage and pulley are available as spare parts). Do you think this will work? (as I need to get a whole new grx derailleur with those mountain bike spare parts)
I am looking at setting up something similar to this for a drop bar 29er build I am working on. I understand the parameters and resources you are working under but I am looking at setting this up with a Shimano drivetrain.
Do you think it's possible and do you think I should use a road or mtb derailleur? I would probably be using an 11-50t sunrace cassette but this video has me thinking about using this garbaruk cassette. Thanks for the experimentation and for saving us all time and money.
Russ, there is no such thing as Guniea Pigs, they are early adopters 🤣🤣
It seems a great solution. I have been thinking of changing the GS medium cage of my Shimano Ultegra for an SGS but unfortunately Shimano only produces SS and GS cages for that model and the SGS of other models do not slot in.
I guess that cage cannot be fitted in an ultegra rear derailleur, can be? Any other compatible model?
Awesome series Russ. Enjoyed the journey. 🙋🏻♂️ for more.
Out of interest...and not meaning to trigger your “OK Internet” nerve...butttttt......thinking a sub-compact 2x (e.g., 40/24) should work with the Bombora’s front ring clearances? 😬 Having said that, just flipped the double on my Straggler for a 1x so. (And might try this hack down the track.
Again, love your work and greeting rom Australia mate 👍🏼
Money.
Path Less Pedaled I’m hearing you...my bike shed is called the “Cave of Make Do”
Is it possible to use the garbaruk cage on a 2x11 rival rd? (specs says it's only for the 1x version)
I'm currently looking for a way to use an 11-36 cassette without swapping rd
Might be easier to get a roadlink.
This is such an awesome approach! How many chain links did you end up using with the setup?
i think 116 is good
I have a force22, will it work w a 2x?
hello! nice idea! do you know, will it work if use gx eagle derailleur with apex 11 speed shifter with large 11 speed cassette?
This is exactly what I'm looking for! Will this work with my force 22 setup? Would it extend my short cage mech enough to handle a 36t rear or do I need to get a medium cage mech to start with? I see you have a new vid out with the jtech add on. What's your recommended option at this point in time? Thank you!!
Could I go larger than a 32 rear with my 2x setup? What's the max? I have a 50/34 tooth crank
Will this also work with a sram rival 22 Rear derailleur? I believe it has a max tooth of 32. I wanted it to go as high as 48t if possible on that particular groupset
Great explanation... lol yet again 🙃
Sir can you do a video for Gevenalle GX STI, if it will run in a New Shiman Deore M5100 Rear Derailleur? Thank you!
Such a nice hack! thanks for sharing it!
I was wondering if it could works with an apex derailleur medium cage. What do you think?
Should work with Apex since they are pretty similar to Rival mechs.
@@PathLessPedaledTV Was reading other comments above.. will it work with a mechanical apex shifter or must be a rival one shifter? thanks in advance
Hi! Do you think it’ll work on a rival axs derailleur?
Very nice! 😃
Have you ever swapped out a SRAM 11rear Road derailleur for a 10 speed - SRAM GX rear derailleur to obtain a 42 or 46 gear range using still the SRAM road components?
Yes. Did that in a past video. Sort of sketchy.
I have a gravel bike that I originally specced with Sram Rival 1x11 groupset, 42t front chainring and 11-42 casette in the back. Looking to upgrade with the garbaruk long cage as well as their 10-50t casette. Do you reckon chain length will be ok if I use the same? Or should it be longer/shorter? thanks
Might have to adjust. Hard to say without trying.
does this work only on sram road derailleur or does it work with mtb ones too? If I have a 2x rival setup what would be the largest cassette I can use? I take this doesn't add a clutch either?
edit: do you know where one can get a eagle nx, gx, or higher rd cage?
1) Cage was originally designed to work with the mtb. In the vid, I said that Garbaruk never tested it on Rival, so this is new territory. 2) Don't know. 3) It does nothing to the clutch only extends the cage. Either your derailleur has a clutch or not, this won't add or take it away.
@@PathLessPedaledTV thank you. Did the company tell you how long the disc cogs lasts & after how long they need to be replaced?
@@mellissanash7517 No. But looked closer and the first 10 are actually steel and only the blue is AL. So should last a while.
@@PathLessPedaledTV longer than stock I would assume?
These kind of derailleurs and pretty much all 11 and 12spd SRAM MTB rear derailleurs are 1x specific. Your 2x Rival is very different to this 1x Rival. Even if you could bolt this cage, or an Eagle NX etc. cage to your current derailleur, it wouldn't work with a 2x setup (and I highly doubt it would work at all).
If you want a 2x derailleur with a clutch, your best bet would be to go with a 10spd SRAM GX rear derailleur (it works with both 10 and 11spd road levers, even some factory bikes come with this setup). It has a clutch, and it can do 2x. Officially the biggest cassette you can run with the GX is a 36T, not sure how much more you could push it in a 2x setup.
Aftermarket and/or more expensive cassettes don't necessarily last longer than stock cassettes, sometimes they are less durable. Aftermarket cassettes are mostly about saving weight and offering unique options.
Bourbon and bad ideas....now that would be cool!😎 why did you give up on bikes and bourbon?😞
Here in the Peak District, we use Shimano mecs. They are cheap -- and reliable.
so coooooool
hi sir can i ask if this can go on a 2x roadbike chain ring with 52 teeth on the big one and 34 on the small?
No.
@@PathLessPedaledTV im bout to cry now
@@PathLessPedaledTV may i ask what is the max chainring capacity tho?
@@PathLessPedaledTV hi sir i wish you could reply, i will be going to the bike shop tomorrow about 70kms away from my place, planning to buy an ultegra di2 or the sram and just buy a garbaruk kit, what is the max chainring T the garbaruk can? thanks
@@treymorant905 they have a website with all that info.
Why dont use a Sram 11 speed x-actuation MTB rear derailleur? Or am I missing something?
X-Actuation doesn’t work with road shifters which use Exact Actuation. We covered that in a previous video.
Exactly which 11-speed cassette model are you rocking? The 11-50t?
Yes.
Why not just use a sram rear derailleur with Xactuation that has the same 1:1 ratio as road? I've also done a Shimano di2 setup and swapped the short cage for a long. But this was 5 years ago,assume compatibility is similar now.
Compatability is NOT similar. There is no SRAM derailleur that uses “exact actuation”/road pull that will clear anything larger than 46t.
@@PathLessPedaledTV and 46t isn't enough? Gotta get stronger
Lower gears exist for a reason. Mountain biking, loaded touring, steep off road bikepacking, riding with kids, carrying groceries ip a hill, etc., Sometimes people ride bikes with more than GU packets in a jersey pocket on nicely graded surfaces.
is there a way to make a Deore m6100 RD work with a shimano 105 shifter, both with the same 11 speed?
Wolftooth TanPan
Amazing thing
Amazeballs.
Ultimate bomb proof 9 speed adventure drivetrain? Yeah, it's called an Alfine or Rohloff.
I’m no Math major but those aren't 9spd.
Did you have to change your chain length?
Yes
200+ bucks for a cassette and 70 for pulley? You could get lower gearing with a Claris 3x8 groupset in that price ;)
Although I must admit that this cassette looks stunning!
Still cheaper than $300 SRAM Eagle cassette and $700 derailleur and $400 shifter. You could get lower gearing with a lot of things. Who the hell would ride Claris if they didn't have to?
What shifters did you wind up using in this video?
Rival brifters.
@@PathLessPedaledTV cable disc's or hydraulic? I'm looking for options to go 11 42 11 speed but I need new hydro brifters. I could go with friction shifting, but then Id still need hydro brakes? Unless I just got sole bb7s and then started all over with a rival cable set up?
Cable brakes. Yokozuna Ultimos are the best damned cable brake.
TRP makes a top of the line cable brake... best one I’ve seen. I have BB7’s, but I’m about to install the TRP’s
What about Rohloff 14 a germaan gear very goed bro
Money.
Is it compatible to sram rival 22 short cage?
Prob not.
Any alternative for rival 22?
@@jebsevilla9786 Ratio Tech cable fin and Eagle derailleur
You can causualy pit on sram nx on there that all I want for my mountainbike
Hi, Can you tell me what is the most compliant drop handlebar with a little flare that you can recommend? Sadly can't afford carbon, so aluminum would be my target.
10 speed road shifters are compatible with MTB rear mechs up to the 9 speed group set, still gives 10 speeds (Shimano). At least a 36 on the back so 1 to 1, and can run easier gears (40t)
With SRAM, the standard force RD should manage a 40t garbaruk cassette, per reports on the internet, so 1 to 1 on a 40t chain ring, and 10x40 so fine for the road
But this extended RD should be great, must try it, if I ever need a 50......
Yah but do they clear a 50?
If you watch out previous vids, Rival does 46t perfect. Beyond that it gets sketchy.
No need to justify yourself, fella. Because it is your bike and you want to is all the reason you need.
what about gevenalle?
What about them?
You know that the NX Eagle is a 12 speed drive drain
Yeah. And it’s cage works on 11 spd Rival. The shifter determines the number of speeds not the derailleur.
What is the cassette range 11-50? Thanks!
Aluminium. Dude thats just not gonna last. Usually only the larger cogs like 50/46/ 42 are alu. The rest are steel.
First 10 are steel. Only the last one is aluminum.
5:51 The declared topic starts. Interesting.
Oh for FFS. You caught me. It's to lure you in so I can make that extra 15 cents.
Ugly as heck, but totally functional WTG!
It's now the Cave of Enough Bad Ideas Eventually Leads to A Good Idea. That cassette and derailleur looks super cool! Great stuff.
Sorry to be so offtopic but does anybody know a way to get back into an instagram account..?
I stupidly forgot my account password. I love any tricks you can offer me!
@Yahir Adan Instablaster ;)
@Myles Jasiah Thanks so much for your reply. I found the site thru google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Seems to take a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Myles Jasiah It worked and I finally got access to my account again. I am so happy!
Thank you so much, you saved my ass!
@Yahir Adan happy to help =)
Good on you for learning some bike knowledge then sharing it with us! Cage swaps have been around for as long as there were different length cages or someone was willing to create a longer cage. Good to know the method is alive and kicking into the 21st century!
PS - don’t feel you have to reply to every comment, especially negative or knot-headed ones. Focus on the positive!
I've been wondering about Garbaruk since the beginning of this saga. Glad to see it finally came together!
Nice one Russ!! As a side note, it's a bummer that you gotta explain/justify yourself to viewers who still haven't caught onto what this series is actually all about. I don't have a gravel/adventure bike, and I don't understand a lot of this stuff, but I do like how you present your videos, which is why I keep watching. Love the color combos too!! All you need now is a coat of pink cashmere 😅😉😎
No need to explain, don't get to stressed out about all the people spraying garbage.
The cave of limited fundings
I put an e.thirteen 9-46 on my XD White Industries rear hub, and have been running it for a couple years with a 1X SRAM Force group, 38T front ring, works great. Eagerly awaiting the SRAM 1x12 wide-range drop-bar drivetrain. (Also have a bike with SRAM AXS Eagle cassette / drop-bar Force shifters, and it's excellent.)
Russ, I love all of your videos but really loved this one. You're giving me some "bad ideas". I'd love to do this to my Surly. Right now I have the dreaded 50/34 compact road chainring with an 11/32 cassette, (105). I hate it. When I have some extra funds I'll try this for sure. Thanks.
Hot Damm dig Doug you found the right stuff I found a new route that I like to ride it is in California they call it (air line hwy) it is a quiet road and follows the fault line the only hard part is water unless you know where to go. Hollister to Paso Robles. I have road this route three times now.
i think you can re-name this episode "The Cave of BadASS Ideas"
Success! Very awesome Russ. Will be interested to see how that cassette stands up wear and tear, my guess it more than likely fine especially with the larger cogs and distributions of wear.
Russ just want you to know I did the mod to a Raleigh Stuntman because of this video. Thank you.
Now get a 13 speed cassette to work with this drivetrain lol, great work with these videos!!!
Hi sir can you try a shimano rb cassette and 11 speed chain with deore m5100 and shifter would it be compatible
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