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Great video! I have owned an URSA 12k for about a year and I find myself using my meike cine 35mm most. It seems to be the most versatile lens in my kit, and I love the bokeh + it has a more natural look for peoples faces than my wider lenses. I tried to get into the sigma 18-35, but there just wasn't any character to that lens that made me excited to use it and I ended up selling it to buy another meike cine lens. (Just wanted to share my experience with that lens for anyone considering buying that vs cine primes) If I could only use one focal length on my URSA it would probably be 35mm, but like you, I find myself reaching for my wider lens (25mm) a lot as well!
Very interesting, I’m playing with a 24/1.4 on a super 35 sensor… think it’s kinda perfect for doc style shooting. ❤ what do you think about this focal length?
i scrambled a set of leica r lenses (15/19/28/50/90) and a bm6kpro together because ive been diging your work/style so much. after half a year, i only shoot with one lens now. its the 15/3.5. im a sucker for wide angle and its just amazing to look at the image its producing. especially with faces and shaky handheld. i get bored by all the other focal lengths these days! the 19 is cool, but too tight on the 6k imo. thank you for sharing you work - inspired me to pic up video again ♥
Thanks a lot! When I'm doing work in the field (as a one man show) I find myself only using a wide angle and a mid-zoom lens... I still have a LONNNNG way to go when using the right focal lenght for the right shot... It's hard as a one man band...
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I would love to invest in more lens, but for know I need a decent laptop e another tools to start produce my films, I'm studying filmmaking (online course) and I have a Fuji X-t4 with kit lens 18-55 that's good so far, but those lenses you showed it's a dream a more professional camera also, thanks for the video Mateo!!
I recently switched from Rokinon to Meike lenses for my BMPCC4k and I like the 25mm, 35mm and 50mm. I didn’t use my 85mm Rokinon very much so I didn’t get another when I switched. I’m planning on getting an 18mm to complete my set.
@@OurVoicesOurLives yeah I’m thinking of small tight spaces and framing talent in an entire shot. I ran into this a few times and I think the 12mm might be great for that reason. I’d just like to see more video with it.
I use the sigma 18-35 mostly on my pocket 6k pros. But, I often struggle with distance from my subject with different focal lengths to get the framing and background compression that I want. Could you either do a video about that or just add distance from subject in some of your shot descriptions?
That’s actually an easy and useful homework to do yourself. He‘s put up the focal length and references for each one. You‘d just have to put your zoom to said focal length and recreate the framing. You‘ll learn more this way than just by asking the information
Great video! The best I've found so far on this topic! I was thinking about getting the Meike S35 for my z-cam e2s6. Given that you recommend a 19mm+35mm here, would you recommend me the 25mm+50mm Meike if I buy those lenses made for s35 sensors as yours behave similar? So in other words. If I want to buy lenses made for an s35 Sensor like the Meike ones, which ones would you pick if you had to choose two or three out of 18+25+35+50+75+100?
5:445:44 Hello Mateo, thanks for your videos, they always provide good information. I have a blackmagic pocket 6k and for budget reasons at the moment I have only one 24mm T1.5 lens, I am in doubt whether to buy a 35mm or 50mm, sometimes I can that the 35 is going to be very close to the 24mm what's your opinion about it? I hope in the future to be able to buy glasses like yours.
Hi Mateo, congrats for you great content!!! I have a question, where we could buy this Leica R lenses and we should buy an adapter to an EF ring? Thanks for you atention.
I need your HELP! I was wondering if you could let me know your thoughts on either to get the bmpcc 6k or the fujifilm xh2s ? Any advice given is appreciated
I use only 3 lenses. 29mm 2.8, 50mm 1.8 and a 135mm 2.8. 50mm is hard handheld but can be used. 135 only on a stand. 29 is wide enough for me but that’s maybe because I don’t have anything wider
hey Matteo! some recommendations for a super wide budget lense with image stabilisation for bmpcc6k? I want the look of what it would be a 14mm in a full frame sensor. thanks!
V1 and love it! Not a fan of the flares on v2 and the cost makes no sense. There is some chromatic aberration if you shoot against super bright light wide open, but once you step down to f/3 or 4 those issues are gone
@@matteobertoli legend, this is great to know. I've got the Summicron 35mm and Summilux 50mm so I'm keen to get something a wider than my Elmarit 28mm. Tempted by the 35mm summilux if I can stomach the 6k+ price tag!!!
@@Efousset37 I would try to stick to either summicron or summilux and then grab some elmarit. Otherwise you re gonna start having color matching issues ;)
The 19 is very expensive and I have a RedKomodo. I use a speedbooster on it, do you think the 19 would still work on the Komodo with the speedbooster or better without it?
hey, indeed Leica R 19mm 2.8 is expensive lens . A great budget option of it is the Carl Zeiss Jena Flektagon 20mm f2.8 . I would advise you to pick it on M42 and you can adapt it extremely easy and cheap to any system. There are some videos on TH-cam even on Alexa , searh for it. Around 300-500 USD on the used market and last but not least 67mm filter thread .
The 90 and the 50mm summicrons are very different lenses. The 1st gen 50 is easily the wild child of the Leica R system and the lens with the most character out of them. It even has quite pronounced swirly bokeh up to about 1m. Wide open it is also very painterly, especially in out of focus areas. The 90mm is really tuned for faces and portraits. It performs very differently when focusing close and when focusing near infinity. It has a lot of microcontrast and 3D pop and is really, really flattering to the human face. That's what it's made for, really. So I personally wouldn't say they can be used interchangeably based on equivalent focal length. Also, at 3-4k a piece, the 19mm is a bit hard to recommend to people who are just satarting out...on full frame, the field of view is very wide and requires quite a different mindset for composition. So I think people should pass it up and see if they like extreme wide angles before forking out all this money.
@@00anta well, those are the lenses I own. I also say at the beginning of the video: “doesn’t matter if it’s Leica or any other brand”. I am clearly talking about focal lengths, not about lens brand.
He just discussed that in this video. The pocket 4k has a X2 crop factor (X1.9 to be exact). so a 28mm fd lens will be a 53mm and q 50 will be a 95mm. But if you get a speedbooster, the 28 can be a 36mm and the 50 a 67mm. So i'd say you should get the 50mm for sure and if you have a speedbooster the 28mm cause of cost/value but if you have the money and way of finding them you get wider FD lenses. I'd also reccomend the Canon FD 70-210mm.
@@pawelfiedorczuk i know. Even with the halation and utilizing color contrast and being a good color grader. U sometimes just want certain lens characteristics to be present in your image. And thats is not solved by a fix from color grade
@@pawelfiedorczuk we are cinematographers, not screenwriters. Cinematography is the art of telling a story through images and the look of those images is highly influenced by lens choice.
Great video Matteo - loved the examples you showed for each focal length. My favorite is the 20 on my Pocket 6K. Glad I got my prime set which is similar to yours in terms of focal lengths. (20/28/35/50/100 - barely use the 100 though).
Thanks for this - just picked up the 40mm Arles for my BMCC FF and am eternally debating the next move of a set of three. The 90 you showed looked in incredible (135 S35). Making me think! Love your luts thanks for what you're doing on this channel, Matteo.
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Still got sigma 18/35 zoom lens in my kit.. Love wide angle focal length because it keeps things in focus when moving handheld.
Great video! I have owned an URSA 12k for about a year and I find myself using my meike cine 35mm most. It seems to be the most versatile lens in my kit, and I love the bokeh + it has a more natural look for peoples faces than my wider lenses. I tried to get into the sigma 18-35, but there just wasn't any character to that lens that made me excited to use it and I ended up selling it to buy another meike cine lens. (Just wanted to share my experience with that lens for anyone considering buying that vs cine primes) If I could only use one focal length on my URSA it would probably be 35mm, but like you, I find myself reaching for my wider lens (25mm) a lot as well!
Very interesting, I’m playing with a 24/1.4 on a super 35 sensor… think it’s kinda perfect for doc style shooting. ❤ what do you think about this focal length?
i scrambled a set of leica r lenses (15/19/28/50/90) and a bm6kpro together because ive been diging your work/style so much. after half a year, i only shoot with one lens now. its the 15/3.5. im a sucker for wide angle and its just amazing to look at the image its producing. especially with faces and shaky handheld. i get bored by all the other focal lengths these days! the 19 is cool, but too tight on the 6k imo. thank you for sharing you work - inspired me to pic up video again ♥
Thanks a lot! When I'm doing work in the field (as a one man show) I find myself only using a wide angle and a mid-zoom lens... I still have a LONNNNG way to go when using the right focal lenght for the right shot... It's hard as a one man band...
I would say a 20/24mm and a 55/60mm lens covers 95% of what you need on super35, on full frame its 35mm and 85mm
Grandioso Matteo. Amo quando tratti Leica e le tue considerazioni, da possessore, sono una manna dal cielo.
Grazie assai Maestro del buon gusto ❤
Grazie! Spero sia stato chiaro che il discorso vale per qualsiasi brand, non solo per Leica :)
@@matteobertoli chiarissimo, ma ancora più soddisfatto per il loro coinvolgimento a fronte delle tue considerazioni finali ed esperienza sul campo. Argomento obiettivi, in ogni caso, sempre molto graditi 👍
My favorite focal length on S35 is 28mm 😍
I use a Meike cine s35 2.1f 18mm and 35mm. Planning to get an 100mm soon. BMPCC6k pro.
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Absolutely love the buttery LUT for our BMPCC 6K Pro! Been using it ever since we bought it. Thank you very much. :)
I would love to invest in more lens, but for know I need a decent laptop e another tools to start produce my films, I'm studying filmmaking (online course) and I have a Fuji X-t4 with kit lens 18-55 that's good so far, but those lenses you showed it's a dream a more professional camera also, thanks for the video Mateo!!
I recently switched from Rokinon to Meike lenses for my BMPCC4k and I like the 25mm, 35mm and 50mm. I didn’t use my 85mm Rokinon very much so I didn’t get another when I switched. I’m planning on getting an 18mm to complete my set.
I have same exact setup and I’m trying to decide between the 18mm or the new 12mm…. Did you get the 18mm?
@@lightbright8888 I got the 18mm
@@lightbright8888 I kinda want the 12mm too
@@OurVoicesOurLives yeah I’m thinking of small tight spaces and framing talent in an entire shot. I ran into this a few times and I think the 12mm might be great for that reason. I’d just like to see more video with it.
@@lightbright8888 yes. I agree
I would love to see you try out the Fuji xh2s! I feel like it has somewhat of a similar look to bmpcc6k
Great video. What are your favorite focal lengths on full frame?
Great video! Just in time with my decision to buy a new little set! Great hints! Thank you Matteo! :)
I use the sigma 18-35 mostly on my pocket 6k pros. But, I often struggle with distance from my subject with different focal lengths to get the framing and background compression that I want. Could you either do a video about that or just add distance from subject in some of your shot descriptions?
That’s actually an easy and useful homework to do yourself. He‘s put up the focal length and references for each one.
You‘d just have to put your zoom to said focal length and recreate the framing. You‘ll learn more this way than just by asking the information
Thank you Mateo!
At the moment 35mm favorite on OG 6K
great video Matteo. If you didn't have the budget for a Leica R's, do you have any recommendations for older lenses that still hold up pretty well?
Thanks! Nikkor for sure
@@matteobertoli where can one find a cine modded ef mount colour matching Nikkor set?
35mm is a great all around focal lenght
On full frame its 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm and 135mm.
Yeah thats pretty much all standard focal lengths 😂
@@johnnyweissmuller5838 I find it hard to choose, so I say buy them all.
Great video! The best I've found so far on this topic!
I was thinking about getting the Meike S35 for my z-cam e2s6.
Given that you recommend a 19mm+35mm here, would you recommend me the 25mm+50mm Meike if I buy those lenses made for s35 sensors as yours behave similar?
So in other words. If I want to buy lenses made for an s35 Sensor like the Meike ones, which ones would you pick if you had to choose two or three out of 18+25+35+50+75+100?
5:44 5:44 Hello Mateo, thanks for your videos, they always provide good information.
I have a blackmagic pocket 6k and for budget reasons at the moment I have only one 24mm T1.5 lens, I am in doubt whether to buy a 35mm or 50mm, sometimes I can that the 35 is going to be very close to the 24mm what's your opinion about it?
I hope in the future to be able to buy glasses like yours.
Hi Mateo, congrats for you great content!!! I have a question, where we could buy this Leica R lenses and we should buy an adapter to an EF ring? Thanks for you atention.
I need your HELP! I was wondering if you could let me know your thoughts on either to get the bmpcc 6k or the fujifilm xh2s ? Any advice given is appreciated
I just noticed your lens are on F stop, not T stops.. So the leica R lens are stills lens?
Of course
Great video!! How about 24 instead of 19??
On s35 is a bit too much
I like 29mm with a 6K pocket without any gimbals and stabilizers
I use only 3 lenses. 29mm 2.8, 50mm 1.8 and a 135mm 2.8. 50mm is hard handheld but can be used. 135 only on a stand. 29 is wide enough for me but that’s maybe because I don’t have anything wider
hey Matteo! some recommendations for a super wide budget lense with image stabilisation for bmpcc6k? I want the look of what it would be a 14mm in a full frame sensor.
thanks!
No idea, never uses stabilized lenses
@@matteobertoli so it’s not a issue for you when shooting hand held?
@@manuelgomez9730 nope, it’s a camera operator job to get stable footage :)
@@matteobertoli interesting, thanks!!
I still don't know where is this leica R lens.. Its not in any established store or in an rental shops to rent..in the United kingdom.
You can find them pretty easily for rent. If you wanna buy Ebay.
@@matteobertoli is it also called leica R summicron?
What are you thoughts getting so close to subjects on a wide?
Love it!
Curious, is your 19mm the V1 or V2? I've read a lot about the V1 having a bunch of issues shooting into bright light but I'm not too fussed by that
V1 and love it! Not a fan of the flares on v2 and the cost makes no sense. There is some chromatic aberration if you shoot against super bright light wide open, but once you step down to f/3 or 4 those issues are gone
@@matteobertoli legend, this is great to know. I've got the Summicron 35mm and Summilux 50mm so I'm keen to get something a wider than my Elmarit 28mm. Tempted by the 35mm summilux if I can stomach the 6k+ price tag!!!
@@Efousset37 I would try to stick to either summicron or summilux and then grab some elmarit. Otherwise you re gonna start having color matching issues ;)
The 19 is very expensive and I have a RedKomodo. I use a speedbooster on it, do you think the 19 would still work on the Komodo with the speedbooster or better without it?
No idea I have zero experience or knowledge about the komodo. Didn’t even know there were speedboosters for it 🤷🏻♂️
@@matteobertoli Fair enough. Yes, there is a Leica R speedbooster for RF mount.
hey, indeed Leica R 19mm 2.8 is expensive lens . A great budget option of it is the Carl Zeiss Jena Flektagon 20mm f2.8 . I would advise you to pick it on M42 and you can adapt it extremely easy and cheap to any system. There are some videos on TH-cam even on Alexa , searh for it. Around 300-500 USD on the used market and last but not least 67mm filter thread .
@@valexy87 I appreciate the recommendation. I wonder how it would match with the Leica set.
The 90 and the 50mm summicrons are very different lenses. The 1st gen 50 is easily the wild child of the Leica R system and the lens with the most character out of them. It even has quite pronounced swirly bokeh up to about 1m. Wide open it is also very painterly, especially in out of focus areas. The 90mm is really tuned for faces and portraits. It performs very differently when focusing close and when focusing near infinity. It has a lot of microcontrast and 3D pop and is really, really flattering to the human face. That's what it's made for, really. So I personally wouldn't say they can be used interchangeably based on equivalent focal length. Also, at 3-4k a piece, the 19mm is a bit hard to recommend to people who are just satarting out...on full frame, the field of view is very wide and requires quite a different mindset for composition. So I think people should pass it up and see if they like extreme wide angles before forking out all this money.
I am not recommending any Leica R at all. I am only recommending focal lengths. Could be Canon, Nikon, Meike etc.
@@matteobertoli Aah, got it. Kinda hard to ignore you swinging all those nice lenses left and right though.
@@00anta well, those are the lenses I own. I also say at the beginning of the video: “doesn’t matter if it’s Leica or any other brand”. I am clearly talking about focal lengths, not about lens brand.
@@matteobertoli Right, my bad
What Canon FD focal ranges would you recommend on the pocket 4K?
He just discussed that in this video. The pocket 4k has a X2 crop factor (X1.9 to be exact). so a 28mm fd lens will be a 53mm and q 50 will be a 95mm. But if you get a speedbooster, the 28 can be a 36mm and the 50 a 67mm. So i'd say you should get the 50mm for sure and if you have a speedbooster the 28mm cause of cost/value but if you have the money and way of finding them you get wider FD lenses. I'd also reccomend the Canon FD 70-210mm.
Depends if you are using a speedbooster. Unfortunately there isn’t a very good wide angle lens for the FD. I think Nikkor are a much better option!
If sigma 18-35 had a vintage look and 3d pop itwould be perfect
Learn color grading.
@@pawelfiedorczuk i know. Even with the halation and utilizing color contrast and being a good color grader. U sometimes just want certain lens characteristics to be present in your image. And thats is not solved by a fix from color grade
@@inspyremusicnl5826 I would focus on storytelling, editing then on lens character… sorry but tooooo much focus on gear.
@@pawelfiedorczuk you will not change the look of a lens in color grading
@@pawelfiedorczuk we are cinematographers, not screenwriters. Cinematography is the art of telling a story through images and the look of those images is highly influenced by lens choice.
Great video Matteo - loved the examples you showed for each focal length.
My favorite is the 20 on my Pocket 6K. Glad I got my prime set which is similar to yours in terms of focal lengths. (20/28/35/50/100 - barely use the 100 though).
Thanks for this - just picked up the 40mm Arles for my BMCC FF and am eternally debating the next move of a set of three. The 90 you showed looked in incredible (135 S35). Making me think! Love your luts thanks for what you're doing on this channel, Matteo.
Please compare ZV-E1 vs BMPCC6k colors/falloff, cause zv-e1 got more greenish/blueish colors than fx30/fx3
I don’t have one sorry