5:44 dude imagine the false allegations, people could just generate false nsfw images of your style saying that you drew this to a minor, and how the hell are you going to disprove that? detractors could say that you just deleted the DMs or the artwork
You better rest good. Also, Ai just sucks in general. It’s environmentally horrible, it’s abused to a disgusting degree, and it is only gonna destroy the industry.
Unfortunately this cope, the reality is that with it usage tech bros are actually making it so that nuclear is starting to make a comeback. Nuclear is actually a very green tech that in combination with renewables would combat climate change very effectively.
It honestly just sucks seeing how much people refuse to pick up a pencil and practice art skills, or just any skill period. And then they go "oh because its hard!!" THERE ARE LESSONS AND TUTORIALS EVERYWHERE... And dont forget creative tools like roblox, gacha, picrew/oc makers, LITERAL WRITING. YOU CAN EXPRESS CRRATIVE TALENT WITHOUT DRSWING
The thing is, a large portion of people that use this technology never had an interest in drawing, they simplify view it as an easy way to make money. The more advanced this gets, the easier it'll be to sell their fake art for quick easy money
And even if their stuff isn't as technically sound in terms of linework and rendering it will nevertheless still look better because, you know, it has intention, personality, and passion behind it. There's a reason why photoshopped memes are still more funny than AI generated memes even if the joke is technically the exact same.
I wouldn't say Roblox as it is a horrible teacher Scratch would be better. Yes it is more so focused on coding but it makes it super easy and really you can focus on writing what will happen instead of worrying about good code. The missing part in both is a 2D image editor.
This is why I don't get the hate towards pewdipie's art journey. People can have all the opinions about him. But i respect a person who is not so young anymore made an effort to actually pick up the tools and just START learning new stuff! It's like a dying art in this climate of anti-intelectualism
AI can be so much fun to play with when you are not using it to steal and harm other people. I have AI locally installed on my PC and I feed it my own art and its very impressive to see it create images in your own style. Of course I dont use it when I work on an original piece but it is pretty fun to play around with when you want to quickly generate something.
@@quincho6949 Locally they don't send or get nothing, that is why the files that contain the "info" of the style or other stuff tend to be really big (10-32gb)
People are defending this stuff under the impression that it's for THEM as if it's a gift by an old friend, thinking that it's just making "expressing yourself more easily" when it isn't like that. For example, MCreator is a tool to make Minecraft mods for anyone without coding knowledge. Seems pretty good in paper, but you then realize how much the mod servers are saturated with low quality slop that has no effort or distinction. It's the same with AI, because making something "easy" doesn't mean that it's actually "better" but hey, the CEOs do their thing...
If it's truly low quality slop, then a skilled human should stand out even more, but that's not the case with AI. This was already studied and people CANNOT tell the difference between human art and AI generated art, in fact they confuse human art for AI generated and vice versa. It's only improving from here.
Pewdipie's art journey should inspire you. I bet he's way older than you and you know how society says you can't teach old dogs new tricks You still have more hope
You don't make art for others or to just make beautiful images, you make art for the sake of discovering yourself and enjoying the moment of freedom and creativity. That's something AI can never take away from real artist. It's really heartbreaking how expression has been degraded to this point though.
When it comes to the way inaccurate accusations are being thrown against some artists because of how ubiquitous this slop has become, even though I don't use any kind of social media - as an entirely analogue artist, I'm glad my process isn't something that someone could fake the steps of, so I have all the goods any time I draw anything, and can just provide photos taken on my phone of me holding the pages of physical sketches that go into every finished work, before and after inking, corrections, errors, and all. As well as videos of my literal actual hand putting it to paper or canvas.
Before OpenAI garnered all up their popularity with ChatGPT, we were doing things, and we were not typing down on our keyboards to give some machine a prompt to reply to, nor make any content created by an AI. The reason why we have things such as Grok and FLUX is because of the AI boom we are currently in; and a portion of the people on the internet that is lazy have become AI bros. You are not able to find their actual interest of drawing, doodling, or sketching things from an AI bro, because they never had those interests and would rather let an machine do it theirselves and force to tell people to adapt to the rapid technological growth. There isn't any visible positives the AI boom has brought us, because all it has done is tackle down artists, manipulate people into thinking that art drawn by a human is actually made with AI, have datasets from AI tools be trained without your consent, ruin the reputation of artists with all of the unneeded drama that AI has brought upon, and so on. If you keep wondering how we have reached this point of profiting off generative AI, think back to the protests against AI "art" that happened at ArtStation.
kinda worried about ai art, im trying to get into art and improve my skills, and im worried that by the time i actually get good it won't even mater because ai will be better than i ever will be
It will be. An unreleased AI from OpenAI called o3 got into the 99th percentile on a competitive programming benchmark (codeforces). It's in the top 200 programmers in the WORLD. That's coming for art too. The good news is, other humans will value a human perspective in art no matter what, and you can always do art for personal fulfillment even if AI is doing it better.
How people disprove an artist using ai can also be quite harmful/hurtful too. I've seen people pointing out all the mistakes these artists made just to say: therefore it's not ai. It's sad that ai make people just seek out mistakes, whether it is to prove it is ai or not ai. I would not participate in any ai witch hunt for this reason.
Training an AI on YOUR OWN arts is I guess okay (?) I mean it's your own arts, do as you please. Training an AI on someone else's arts is theft. And then I see all these people opening Patreon using... AI-generated images (of someone else's arts of course) and you know it's fked up.
Okay, at least you get the idea of using the training model for yourself, That is actually smart. Thank God. You actually have a brain for him once, Because of the fact that hey, it cuts the time in half of getting the exact same replica as how I withdraw technically, But hey, at the end of the day people can still steal the images and the bot to make it and it's not copyrighted, So good luck with that on USA
You can’t practically train AI solely on your own artworks. Generative AI achieves its current quality because it’s trained on billions of scrapped images, including not just art but also photography and videos. This broad training is what allows AI to recognize differences like cats vs. dogs or male vs. female. pretty face vs ugly face, etc. If you only fed it your own art, like drawings of girls, for example, it wouldn’t gain that broader understanding. What actually happens with 'train your own' AI is more like adding your work on top of an already-trained model. This is usually called fine-tuning. There are also methods like ControlNet that let you guide AI to mimic your style without needing to retrain the model entirely. I know this because I run Stable Diffusion locally on my laptop. I still hate AI to the core, but I’ve had to learn about it so I’m not left behind when the time comes. It’s unfortunate that it’s come to this, but that’s where we are.
@@bimajuantara It's called learning the patterns, that's how the AI knows how to make art in the first place, Without human art, it would not work at all, So that's why happening now
The only that will effectively fight back against the technology is if you fight against its ability to make money. This means drop all the pointless crap and focus on making sure that AI works only can never be copied righted. Anything else is a distraction.
i absolutely despise ai "art" but this at 2:30 does seem really interesting to me *maybe* it could be used to get like a rough idea of what you wanna kinda draw? i still dont know if thats really ethical though to get an idea from an ai
One more thing by the way, I have to waste 2 hours of legit doing a drawing both strokes and full colors, and it was not as good but still taking 2 hours off my time, And if I use a train model to train off all my artworks it would make things a lot easier to not have to waste 2 hours per artwork if I can just train it and produce the same exact style how I want it, And that would have be a dream come true for all artists as well so they don't have to waste so much livelihood just to make artworks, If when it comes to commissions I mean, But at the same time you get the idea
I am biased cause I happen to like AI, however I would like to believe I keep my opinions to a level of logic. On the topic of an AI that you can train on a particular style, I don't think its existence is the issue I can see where this could be useful for people with a level of skill would want to use it. I think the issue is how its being used, I do not claim to be someone with legal knowledge but I think if you can prove the art or character is yours you can bring up copyright issues against the person doing it. I believe there is two different people that need to be held accountable for different things. When it comes to the tools that was trained on artist data such as midjourney potentially, the AI developer should be held accountable. When a person uploads an image from an artist and creates from it then the user should be held accountable. As far accusations go, I think that takes away from the plot and the energy should be refocused where it belongs on the two ways your art is being stolen.
Guys, just be optimistic instead of being pessimistic. Utilize AI programs as your advantages, be open-minded to this stuff, and also save your money. also if you say its lazy to have things to make it easier, go ahead and grab a pencil instead of using a Drawing tablet, you see what i am getting here? because you say it makes things lazier, but the point of the matters is being able to do it instead of unable to do it
You do realize most digital artist started with Pencil? Precisely because it's harder. Equating a writing device that doesn't even put down a single letter unless you do is not even close to a machine literally spitting out whole images.
@devindavon6615 The point is is the fact that people can say this is lazy and that, but at the same time, you can say the exact same thing to every single thing we've been evolutionary, when it comes to caveman times, Roman empire times, modern times, etc, Fun fact. Do you even know that Egyptians have to legit carry heavy blocks by hands? And people thought today's age we are lazy for using cranes or using machinery to help make buildings possible without stressing our bodies, You see what I mean now? And I know it's hard to explain it to you but hopefully you get the idea,
@NoahtheGameplayer backhanded comment at the end there aside,When you boil it down like that,sure. But you're forgetting the leaps and bounds this tech is compared to even your crane vs pulleys/manpower. Ai it's at it's lowest level type a prompt in and the 99% rest of the work is done for you. With a crane you need a certification and training. There is no effort behind it outside the idea if you downloaded it off the internet. We're talking about a black box that requires almost nothing from the user vs a crane that while it does make the job easier,still requires precision and knowledge from the user. For the record I don't think you're lazy I think you're just denying yourself the creative process by using AI in creative fields and coding (if you don't consider that creative), humans going in steps and making mistakes and changes is how we get media we like and enjoy, AI fills in the entire picture and that ends up removing a lot of the try and error in favor of 1 and dones. It's just a system I see making Art I would find enjoyable.
@@NoahtheGameplayer may I ask who love to carry heavy bricks. Drawing has been a thing since forever, through many mediums. Painting, sculpting and so on. It takes time, passion and effort. People learned to draw. Even disabled people can draw, using their own feet/other body parts. People with chronic pain also draw despite the pain.
Im a musician and I used to write songs, but why would I do that anymore. I gave up because even if I manage to create something good, its just gonna be stolen and Fed to an algorythm to replicate it. Just dropping it here if someone keeps a tally.
Regardless, AI users that understand a thing or two about AI use open-source and free tools anyway. When it's free and open-source, you're not paying these services. Still, wouldn't upload any AI art, even when I generate it on my PC, because of the fact it's slop, doesn't represent my creative vision and uses stolen assets. And I draw my own art and upload it on social media. Using AI for fun is OK, in my opinion, but be aware of what you're doing and don't be scummy.
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5:44 dude imagine the false allegations, people could just generate false nsfw images of your style saying that you drew this to a minor, and how the hell are you going to disprove that? detractors could say that you just deleted the DMs or the artwork
Every single time an AI art invention is made an artist's soul dies.
You better rest good.
Also, Ai just sucks in general. It’s environmentally horrible, it’s abused to a disgusting degree, and it is only gonna destroy the industry.
Unfortunately this cope, the reality is that with it usage tech bros are actually making it so that nuclear is starting to make a comeback.
Nuclear is actually a very green tech that in combination with renewables would combat climate change very effectively.
@One-f5g "nah I win"
- AI
It honestly just sucks seeing how much people refuse to pick up a pencil and practice art skills, or just any skill period. And then they go "oh because its hard!!" THERE ARE LESSONS AND TUTORIALS EVERYWHERE... And dont forget creative tools like roblox, gacha, picrew/oc makers, LITERAL WRITING.
YOU CAN EXPRESS CRRATIVE TALENT WITHOUT DRSWING
The thing is, a large portion of people that use this technology never had an interest in drawing, they simplify view it as an easy way to make money. The more advanced this gets, the easier it'll be to sell their fake art for quick easy money
And even if their stuff isn't as technically sound in terms of linework and rendering it will nevertheless still look better because, you know, it has intention, personality, and passion behind it.
There's a reason why photoshopped memes are still more funny than AI generated memes even if the joke is technically the exact same.
I wouldn't say Roblox as it is a horrible teacher Scratch would be better. Yes it is more so focused on coding but it makes it super easy and really you can focus on writing what will happen instead of worrying about good code. The missing part in both is a 2D image editor.
This is why I don't get the hate towards pewdipie's art journey. People can have all the opinions about him. But i respect a person who is not so young anymore made an effort to actually pick up the tools and just START learning new stuff! It's like a dying art in this climate of anti-intelectualism
@@yumri4 ohh good point!! I mostly use roblox for help with character designs!! Scratch for making games :3
AI can be so much fun to play with when you are not using it to steal and harm other people. I have AI locally installed on my PC and I feed it my own art and its very impressive to see it create images in your own style. Of course I dont use it when I work on an original piece but it is pretty fun to play around with when you want to quickly generate something.
You know you're probably feeding your artworks to the AI's servers, right?
@@quincho6949 Nope, like I said. Its locally installed. No access to internet.
@@quincho6949 Locally they don't send or get nothing, that is why the files that contain the "info" of the style or other stuff tend to be really big (10-32gb)
People are defending this stuff under the impression that it's for THEM as if it's a gift by an old friend, thinking that it's just making "expressing yourself more easily" when it isn't like that.
For example, MCreator is a tool to make Minecraft mods for anyone without coding knowledge. Seems pretty good in paper, but you then realize how much the mod servers are saturated with low quality slop that has no effort or distinction. It's the same with AI, because making something "easy" doesn't mean that it's actually "better" but hey, the CEOs do their thing...
If it's truly low quality slop, then a skilled human should stand out even more, but that's not the case with AI. This was already studied and people CANNOT tell the difference between human art and AI generated art, in fact they confuse human art for AI generated and vice versa. It's only improving from here.
Ai art sucks
Amen
Amen
Amen
Amen
Amen
every ai discourse i saw make me believe those ai artist is the one who obsolete first
Ai makes me want to give up even more than I already wanted too
just stay strong dont give up yet
Pewdipie's art journey should inspire you. I bet he's way older than you and you know how society says you can't teach old dogs new tricks
You still have more hope
You don't make art for others or to just make beautiful images, you make art for the sake of discovering yourself and enjoying the moment of freedom and creativity. That's something AI can never take away from real artist. It's really heartbreaking how expression has been degraded to this point though.
@@mattguy1773 There will still be a community that values human art. Me included.
When it comes to the way inaccurate accusations are being thrown against some artists because of how ubiquitous this slop has become, even though I don't use any kind of social media - as an entirely analogue artist, I'm glad my process isn't something that someone could fake the steps of, so I have all the goods any time I draw anything, and can just provide photos taken on my phone of me holding the pages of physical sketches that go into every finished work, before and after inking, corrections, errors, and all. As well as videos of my literal actual hand putting it to paper or canvas.
3:35 Are we just offloading our brain's comprehension skills to AI so we can leave precious space for future brainrot?
@mariatelos for now it's going in that direction unfortunately
Nah, instead people are going to integrate AI with their own minds.
Before OpenAI garnered all up their popularity with ChatGPT, we were doing things, and we were not typing down on our keyboards to give some machine a prompt to reply to, nor make any content created by an AI. The reason why we have things such as Grok and FLUX is because of the AI boom we are currently in; and a portion of the people on the internet that is lazy have become AI bros.
You are not able to find their actual interest of drawing, doodling, or sketching things from an AI bro, because they never had those interests and would rather let an machine do it theirselves and force to tell people to adapt to the rapid technological growth. There isn't any visible positives the AI boom has brought us, because all it has done is tackle down artists, manipulate people into thinking that art drawn by a human is actually made with AI, have datasets from AI tools be trained without your consent, ruin the reputation of artists with all of the unneeded drama that AI has brought upon, and so on.
If you keep wondering how we have reached this point of profiting off generative AI, think back to the protests against AI "art" that happened at ArtStation.
Yayy more precious time to consume waves of annoying advertisements and feed the poor shareholders that just want to buy their 3rd yatch 🙄
kinda worried about ai art, im trying to get into art and improve my skills, and im worried that by the time i actually get good it won't even mater because ai will be better than i ever will be
It will be. An unreleased AI from OpenAI called o3 got into the 99th percentile on a competitive programming benchmark (codeforces). It's in the top 200 programmers in the WORLD. That's coming for art too.
The good news is, other humans will value a human perspective in art no matter what, and you can always do art for personal fulfillment even if AI is doing it better.
It will not happen
These AI art defense reminds me of people who use cheats and call them as "QOL mods".
AI sucks, man... What kind of reality is this?
How people disprove an artist using ai can also be quite harmful/hurtful too. I've seen people pointing out all the mistakes these artists made just to say: therefore it's not ai. It's sad that ai make people just seek out mistakes, whether it is to prove it is ai or not ai.
I would not participate in any ai witch hunt for this reason.
Training an AI on YOUR OWN arts is I guess okay (?) I mean it's your own arts, do as you please.
Training an AI on someone else's arts is theft. And then I see all these people opening Patreon using... AI-generated images (of someone else's arts of course) and you know it's fked up.
Okay, at least you get the idea of using the training model for yourself,
That is actually smart. Thank God. You actually have a brain for him once,
Because of the fact that hey, it cuts the time in half of getting the exact same replica as how I withdraw technically,
But hey, at the end of the day people can still steal the images and the bot to make it and it's not copyrighted,
So good luck with that on USA
You can’t practically train AI solely on your own artworks. Generative AI achieves its current quality because it’s trained on billions of scrapped images, including not just art but also photography and videos. This broad training is what allows AI to recognize differences like cats vs. dogs or male vs. female. pretty face vs ugly face, etc. If you only fed it your own art, like drawings of girls, for example, it wouldn’t gain that broader understanding.
What actually happens with 'train your own' AI is more like adding your work on top of an already-trained model. This is usually called fine-tuning. There are also methods like ControlNet that let you guide AI to mimic your style without needing to retrain the model entirely.
I know this because I run Stable Diffusion locally on my laptop. I still hate AI to the core, but I’ve had to learn about it so I’m not left behind when the time comes. It’s unfortunate that it’s come to this, but that’s where we are.
@@bimajuantara It's called learning the patterns, that's how the AI knows how to make art in the first place,
Without human art, it would not work at all,
So that's why happening now
The only that will effectively fight back against the technology is if you fight against its ability to make money.
This means drop all the pointless crap and focus on making sure that AI works only can never be copied righted.
Anything else is a distraction.
Would feeding Nightshaded and Glazed art into these things kill them?
Probably
Spend enough time looking at generative images and you will definelty be able to tell them apart, no matter how goog some of the details might be.
I just wish I could load Google Images and see human-made content again. I know Before: 2022 exists, but I would love to at least see new art.
me too, it's at times soul-crushing to see AI images so frequently while searching for what you're trying to find.
Try adding -prompt -AI -generated
i absolutely despise ai "art" but this at 2:30 does seem really interesting to me
*maybe* it could be used to get like a rough idea of what you wanna kinda draw?
i still dont know if thats really ethical though to get an idea from an ai
@arutezza yeah but 99% of the case it'll be just ai bros trying to get money by copying someone's art style
Its still not good though because slobs are going to use that for more views.
Yo wasabi, your oc on the pfp is cute, that's all, have a nice day
5:36
dawg the girl doesn't even have the same eye color
I just clicked on the video. Im calling war on Ai, i saw an Ai drawing of one of my favorite characters, i cant let that stand
I would ark permission to use there style for AI art but I don't know.
One more thing by the way,
I have to waste 2 hours of legit doing a drawing both strokes and full colors, and it was not as good but still taking 2 hours off my time,
And if I use a train model to train off all my artworks it would make things a lot easier to not have to waste 2 hours per artwork if I can just train it and produce the same exact style how I want it,
And that would have be a dream come true for all artists as well so they don't have to waste so much livelihood just to make artworks,
If when it comes to commissions I mean,
But at the same time you get the idea
Ai art trash
I am biased cause I happen to like AI, however I would like to believe I keep my opinions to a level of logic. On the topic of an AI that you can train on a particular style, I don't think its existence is the issue I can see where this could be useful for people with a level of skill would want to use it. I think the issue is how its being used, I do not claim to be someone with legal knowledge but I think if you can prove the art or character is yours you can bring up copyright issues against the person doing it. I believe there is two different people that need to be held accountable for different things. When it comes to the tools that was trained on artist data such as midjourney potentially, the AI developer should be held accountable. When a person uploads an image from an artist and creates from it then the user should be held accountable. As far accusations go, I think that takes away from the plot and the energy should be refocused where it belongs on the two ways your art is being stolen.
Guys, just be optimistic instead of being pessimistic. Utilize AI programs as your advantages, be open-minded to this stuff, and also save your money.
also if you say its lazy to have things to make it easier, go ahead and grab a pencil instead of using a Drawing tablet,
you see what i am getting here? because you say it makes things lazier, but the point of the matters is being able to do it instead of unable to do it
You do realize most digital artist started with Pencil? Precisely because it's harder. Equating a writing device that doesn't even put down a single letter unless you do is not even close to a machine literally spitting out whole images.
@devindavon6615 The point is is the fact that people can say this is lazy and that, but at the same time, you can say the exact same thing to every single thing we've been evolutionary, when it comes to caveman times, Roman empire times, modern times, etc,
Fun fact. Do you even know that Egyptians have to legit carry heavy blocks by hands?
And people thought today's age we are lazy for using cranes or using machinery to help make buildings possible without stressing our bodies,
You see what I mean now?
And I know it's hard to explain it to you but hopefully you get the idea,
@NoahtheGameplayer backhanded comment at the end there aside,When you boil it down like that,sure. But you're forgetting the leaps and bounds this tech is compared to even your crane vs pulleys/manpower. Ai it's at it's lowest level type a prompt in and the 99% rest of the work is done for you. With a crane you need a certification and training. There is no effort behind it outside the idea if you downloaded it off the internet. We're talking about a black box that requires almost nothing from the user vs a crane that while it does make the job easier,still requires precision and knowledge from the user.
For the record I don't think you're lazy I think you're just denying yourself the creative process by using AI in creative fields and coding (if you don't consider that creative), humans going in steps and making mistakes and changes is how we get media we like and enjoy, AI fills in the entire picture and that ends up removing a lot of the try and error in favor of 1 and dones. It's just a system I see making Art I would find enjoyable.
@@NoahtheGameplayer may I ask who love to carry heavy bricks.
Drawing has been a thing since forever, through many mediums. Painting, sculpting and so on. It takes time, passion and effort. People learned to draw. Even disabled people can draw, using their own feet/other body parts. People with chronic pain also draw despite the pain.
Im a musician and I used to write songs, but why would I do that anymore. I gave up because even if I manage to create something good, its just gonna be stolen and Fed to an algorythm to replicate it. Just dropping it here if someone keeps a tally.
Regardless, AI users that understand a thing or two about AI use open-source and free tools anyway. When it's free and open-source, you're not paying these services. Still, wouldn't upload any AI art, even when I generate it on my PC, because of the fact it's slop, doesn't represent my creative vision and uses stolen assets. And I draw my own art and upload it on social media. Using AI for fun is OK, in my opinion, but be aware of what you're doing and don't be scummy.