@@TimpBizkit What about traffic jams or congested traffic where inner lanes are moving faster. It's legal to undertake on German roads at a speed up to 80kmh.
Once driving back up north got to the m62... almost middle of the night so kinda quiet.. still some nutcase poodling along in the middle lane.. literally NO OTHER CAR FOR MILES. so I figured sod it, and started "orbiting" him. so went all the way to 3rd lane overtook went all the way back for 1st... slowed down to fall behind, rinse repeat. after the 3rd the guy still hadn't got the hint, by that time a fellow man of culture joined in, he got a really weird look on his face and left the motorway somewhat quickly.
I am really enjoying your channel. We are definitely on the same wave length when it comes to driving. You get a big thumbs up from me for your overtaking manoeuvre at the end. Some people will say you are reckless, but I say the knob head blocking you from doing the speed limit and getting to your destination is the reckless one.
In Poland we have two lanes and we can perfectly coexist with both trucks and people doing 120mph. Such a mess in the UK Also trucks are banned from overtaking each other, that helps a lot
Good god, I would not expect a HGV to be capable of overtaking anything at speeds in excess of 120 mph. or do you mean 120 kilometres per hour. That's about 70/75 mph.
in Poland drivers constanty drive well above national speed limit of 90kmh on normal single carriegeway roads (not highways/expressways) and bareley slowing down in built-up areas which is really annoying safety, as compared to civilised western european countries, really sucks
My rule of thumb is to minimize lane changes as much as possible. But If there is someone behind me coming up, wanting to drive faster, I take the next posibility to move out the way to let them pass. This needs a change in behaviour to most people. USE YOUR MIRRORS, almost use 50/50 rule at how much you watch what's happening behind you. Make sure to know when someone comes up, so you know when to get out of the way. In Germany more people drive in that way, it's a way easier drive that way.
I minimize lane changes as much as possible too. When driving semi locally, I tend to just sit in the cruising lane (the right lane here in the US) and go with the flow of traffic. To be honest, I don't understand why so many people are in such a hurry and making a big deal out of 5-10 MPH. On a 30 mile all highway commute, the difference between 70 MPH and 80 MPH is only about 3 minutes and realistically less than that because some of the commute will almost certainly be on lower speed streets. Not worth stressing over, getting tickets, taking risks, etc IMO. On long distance road trips I completely understand and try to travel at the highest practical speed too, but since most people's daily commute and most of their other driving is semi local anyways, what's the big deal?
I always find this kind of traffic the most dangerous. When there's a high volume but all moving at the national speed limit. I call it Nascar traffic because it's a bit like driving in Nascar. You make a good point as well, personally even an ADI will see no issue with you cruising in lane 3 so long as you're moving faster than the traffic in lane 2.
Coming from a country with only 2 lanes as standard (because of less traffic), I suppose it's a bit comforting to see that even with 4 lanes human behavior doesn't fundamentally change things for the better. Still a good video for me when I'll drive abroad. Though I will admit, I am one of those who will never overtake or cruise faster than 5-10 km/h past the speed limit and if you're bombing so fast that you were a tiny dot in my rear-view mirrors on the fast lane and you STILL get stuck behind me? Tough shit, you'll have to wait for me to overtake and move back, no matter how much you flash your lights or whatnot. I suppose it's a result of how our driving instructors teach here: "If you are more than 10% over OR under the speed limit without good cause, you're doing something wrong." is what I boiled it down to - it helps a newly minted driver like myself either keep his head on or find courage to go right up to the speed limit and not block people behind me (too much at least). That being said...the person at the end really was an idiot. The overtake lane is never for shutting off your brain and cruising at any kind of speed (because there's always going to be someone that wants to go faster and you won't have time to move out of the way before you block them), especially not one below the speed limit without moving back. A thoughtless person like that is pretty much provoking an accident from someone behind them who's in a hurry and is less controlled as yourself.
Changing lanes in front of fast approaching traffic is very bad driving. You are forcing them to brake heavily in order to avoid a collision, and if they are going too fast to stop in time you could easily be rear-ended at 220Kmh and killed.
@@PointNemo9As I said, if they are literally an indistinguishable dot in my mirrors - if I'd be able to see them, ofc I'm not gonna change my lane to be a prick. But there are things like motorcyclists weaving between cars at 200+ an hour for the sheer fun of it and I have no way whatsoever to 'not get in their way'. A potential collision is very much so entirely on them.
@@PointNemo9 Which is why you check your mirror multiple times over 5+ seconds to see if someone is actually approaching fast or just there for one reason or another. Then again I wouldn't expect the British to drive well given how their entire drivers ed is based on teaching useless flaff like using the handbrake 24/7 while pressing the button while pulling it up (literally against manufacturer instructions for any car with a manual parking brake) or checking your "blindspot" before moving off from next to the pavement that has a raised curb next to it (completely impossible to harm someone on the pavement when moving off anyway, so why does it matter? Plus if your mirrors are adjusted correclty you will not have the pavement anywhere near your blindspots). Or the absolute most worthless thing ever: not dry steering because "it wears the steering mechanism". If dry steering was capable of wearing any part of your steering mechanism, the car would go out of alignment or lose all steering if you braked just a little bit too hard. The only time and reason you genuinely should avoid dry steering if you can is on freshly resurfaced roads on hot summer days. Depending on where you live they'll just lay bitumen and rocks on top of the existing road which will get loose and be an annoying mess on hot days for a good while until it settles. About the over or under the limit bit: at least in my country (in the EU) you're required by law to let people past if you're driving even very slighly below the speed limit. Most people don't do that because they're muppets but you WILL fail you driving test if you drive below the speed limit and don't intentionally let people past. The only time I've had someone hog the left lane was when some yob was doing 10 below in the overtake lane for no reason with literally no one but me and them in sight. Undertook them after flashing like 8 times behind them and drove for a good 15 minutes at the speed limit before the same guy blasts past me and starts driving in the middle of the 2 lanes and flashing his turn signals randomly. I was honestly laughing my ass off for a good minute after I saw that. Completely baffling behaviour. Even people who do like twice the speed limit on that road have enough courtesy to not hog the overtake lane but damn that guy was some other breed; or just drunk/high.
@@loonie5468 well in your earlier comment you said you're a new driver, I'll give you a tip that's helped me out: If a car comes along that's faster, just act like you are part of the generic traffic, basically let the faster car do whatever and you just stay out of their way. If you are driving faster, then it's your job to ensure you aren't putting the traffic in danger with your driving.
The Dutch have a great solution to this - it is actually illegal for trucks to overtake each other most of the time! Always illegal on 2-lane highways, and illegal during rush hour on 4-lane highways or greater. It very greatly eases congestion.
Not always, there are plenty of (2-lane) highways where trucks can overtake each other. For example, A67. It is 100 % the biggest cause of hindered traffic. They overtake to save 5 seconds while everyone loses 2 minutes.
@@ofjeworstlust69 I guess I must've just gotten lucky, then! I very, very rarely see trucks overtake each other on my way to work, or on my way to anywhere else, really.
You exaggerate when you say that 77 on the speedometer is like 70 in reality. No car has a 10% margin error. A 77 in the car is likely a 74-ish in reality, unless you have a very dodge car.
While I can't speak for sure about mph speedometers, I can confirm it's always 5-10% on km/h speedometers. Just did 140 km/h on the readout recently while Garmin tracked me as doing 130 km/h in actual fact so...even if it is an exaggaration, he's not that far off the mark.
@@loonie5468 Thanks, never tested in KPH. I used to do that test on many cars in the UK (for work) and it was never more than 7% which is roughly what you said. But 10%, never seen in my life, I just read it's a legal threshold but rarely if ever reached. It can sometimes say 22mph for 20mph so that would be 10% indeed but when you go to 70mph, the margin error in relative terms do reduce to 5%-7%.
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You say that, but mine is about 5% off and I'm regularly pushed down another 5-ish percent by people ostensibly doing the speed limit on their speedometer 🙂
My friend had an old Volvo V80 estate and 100 on the speedo was 89 on the satnav. I think the GPS can underread as well as I put on a song I knew with 134 bpm and drove in town when it was quiet enough to not queue up and where you have a road line every 6 meters, trying to get a road line passed in every beat of the song. 804 meters a minute works out as almost exactly 30 miles per hour. The speedo was reading about 31 or 32 and the phone was only reading 28-29.
This video cannot be more relatable. I find myself doing the left lane adaptive cruise a lot just to save myself the fuss. When I wanna go 70 its always impossible
100% facts, and my partner wonders why I whine 😀 Hogging the fast lane at 65 should be illegal. Yeah yeah, its a limit not a goal but those 5mph slower really add up
I'm often startled when I pull into a motorway service station, walk to the bathroom and realise I have been sharing the motorway with so many people that seem like idiots.
Mate this video is fantastic. I've argued this for the longest time and online all you hear is "no you're wrong, just stay in lane 1". The way I see it: - lane 1: 55-60mph. lorries for days - lane 2: 60-65mph. usually not where you want to be if you don't have all day - lane 3: 65-70mph. the first usable lane - lane 4: (almost) guaranteed national speed limit, outside of really busy times. I usually sit here at 72mph on Waze and overtake literally hundreds of cars per hour. if there's an M3 or a range rover sat in my back seat I'll move over to lane 3 and let them through, then move back to lane 4 to continue
@@MickDrivesCars same but at 10 mph over the middle lane. People who want to go faster that 85 I just let past me as apart from legal reasons and possible middle lane pulling out ditzes, the car begins to drink fuel way more noticeably north of 90.
Mick, you understand the issues of the motorway network and the frustrating restrictions. However, there are missed opportunities in your approach, and I would invite you to consider the TED factor when passing HGVs, your lane positioning within the lane, and to reconsider how you could mitigate the risk of undertaking vehicles that are not in a queue or signalling right. Sadly motorway training in the UK has long been a bit of a misnomer as very few ADI's have received sound training themselves.
Here in the US the truckers have no lane etiquette. I've had to undertake 18-wheelers so many times and it's so frustrating and dangerous. We have a huge aggressive driving problem too (lotta tailgaters/weavers)
Live in Ireland, same issue here with 2 lane motorways. Very refreshing however to see some drivers who are overtaking a long line of traffic in lane 1, that will pull into a small gap in lane 1 to let you past then resume overtaking at their preferred speed. Very simple, doesn’t slow anybody down, and I feel it should be a more common sight on the road.
I really appreciate this video. Please make more videos about everyday driving especially how to drive in busy motorways and give advanced pro driving tips and also make videos on night time city and motorway driving
In the US it's the same idea, except drivers are stupider. Lane 3 will usually have a minivan doing 55, lane 2 is the 70mph traffic, and lane 1 is me, flying by "at the speed limit"
No doubt you’re also familiar with those M roads with variable speed limit displays + cameras on gantries. Although the HoC is a bit mealy mouthed with it, it’s tolerable to pass on either side when they are active. It is actually useful at maximising capacity, and reduces the need for lane changes, which can be risky overall. Just be careful about something being in your blind spot when planning to move from 2 to 1, e.g.!
8:50 - These are usually the road users most likely to anecdotally report "Oh yea I get tailgated all the time", is it any wonder when you're under the speed limit and preventing the entire lane from making progress when you yourself can continue making progress in the left hand lane?
I would say that there is no excuse for tailgating whatever speed the vehicle in front is going. Some drivers go slower, it is all part of our modern motoring world.
Tailgating I agree, however I'd argue that if you lack the ability &/or confidence to drive to the conditions of the road (dry & clear visibility) you shouldn't be operating a vehicle, both failing to make progress & causing other drivers to adjust their speed are faults in the driving test.
That would be discriminatory. How fast is fast, how slow is slow? We all meet slower drivers on any journey, but the problem as I see is the 'new' class of driver who is impatient, intolerant and unforgiving - see any dash cam video - which gives way to accusations of holding up all and sundry. I, as a boy racer in a previous life, now drive at or just below any posted speed limit, and I always ensure there is overtaking space in front of me. We drivers must be prepared to accommodate all types of driver on our journeys throughout the highways of the Kingdom.@@commanchi7
Boy you would HATE driving anywhere in north america. You drive like saints on the highways over there compared so some of the idiots I've witnessed. That same level of traffic would become total gridlock due to driver incompetency.
Here in Ukraine in most cases we have 3 lanes We have right lane - for trucks, entering/exiting, electric cars on low battery etc We have middle lane - where basically everyone going around 60-70 mph And we have left lane - where everyone going around 80-90+ mph, because we don't have a lot of speed cameras (but it's kind of funny, how everyone who was going 90 mph slow down in sync before the camera) And I actually wasn't even thinking about how great this system is But looking at your road system, I kind of get it know Great content!
Good to see you undertaking. Too many "experts" out there who think it's illegal, driving instructors included. You don't need to apologise for undertaking. Its the instructors are the ones who need to apologise for feeding their students with their rubbish on road rules.
Is undertaking in the motorway legal in UK? Here in Germany undertaking is illegal, unless the traffic on the other lane is stucking (moving less than 60 km/h), then you can undertake with maximum 20 km/h difference.
I have two cars. My winter/spring/autumn bad weather 59 bhp up! and my good weather 109 bhp MX-5. My bad weather car is a terribly slow car that is definitely not designed for long commutes. On the motorway I always have to make a decision with the up!. I either have to gondola along in the lorry lane or blast through at 100 mph. Have to say... driving 100 mph in an small little econemy car is pretty amusing. After all, the MX-5 at least manages 120 mph with the soft top closed... although it is quite exciting to drive open top at this speed.
@@adamek9750 The acceleration lane on the motorway is usually not long enough and I have to keep driving on the hard shoulder to build up enough speed before joining.
@@adamek9750 Living on the edge! 😂It's only a problem when someone has broken down again on the hard shoulder and I drive towards him at "full throttle".
I really wouldn't mind cruising behind a truck in the left most lane. The problem is that this lane often turns into an exit, and before I know it, I'm out of the motorway, heading somewhere I never meant to go 😅
In Germany its truck and slow traffic right, cruising at 150 kph in the middle and the race track. Don’t move into the leftmost lane if you’re not driving fast
@@yournemesis192 no, my experiences in Germany are that everyone stays on the right and when they approach a truck they overtake and get back to the right. If you drive the way you say, you are a bad driver blocking traffic
My reason to go adaptive cruise control behind a truck is for electric driving on a longer distance. If I don’t have to charge as much is much easier to get to the destination
7:18 Here in Poland last year they introduced a new law which prohibits lorry drivers from overtaking on 2-lane motorways for this reason. Of course there is an exception when someone is driving like 40, then lorries can overtake such a driver. But it works very well.
in germany not a lot of trucks overtake each other, highways are usually 2 or 3 lanes, but there is a similar problem with how people stick to the middle lane cuz the first lane is always for the trucks, however since there (mostly) is no speed limit, people go like 120kmh (roughly 80mph) in middle lane usually, maybe a little less but def not 60mph or 65mph. and the last lane is for if a truck is overtaking (rare occurance) or someone who wants to go like 140kmh+
it’s a little reassuring to see that these issues aren’t exclusive to here in the US, but some of these truck drivers are straight up cruising in lanes 3 and 4
In Melbourne, Australia it's pretty much exactly the same, probably even worse tbh. I think a lot less people understand the concept of lane discipline over here.
Funny to see this issue is the same in the UK as in The Netherlands. Driving daily over 200km and it is exactly like this. Might be a fun idea to do this with 2 lane highways / motoway
Same here in Czech Republic. Except most of our highways have only two lines - one and four 🙈
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The 4-lane motorways would probably work better if you were required to do the speed limit to be in the outermost lane. I've had my license for just half a year, and the amount of times you have to stand on the brake because some idiot pulls in front of you at a way too low speed is incredible 😂
Personally I wouldn’t agree with the 2 undertakes at 5:20. You’ll get into an accident one day. If you don’t rate those drivers you should expect that one of them will change lane into you.
If there's a hoggers in lane 3 do you think in would be safer for all lanes to go to a bottle neck in lane 4? Some drivers may not check to their right when changing lanes. Does that mean we should never overtake? This is the best video I've seen on UK motorway driving. It puts Ashley Neal's videos to shame.
@@intrepidbun5002 To instigate a collision (not accident) I would have to be driving without due care and attention, which is a criminal offence. Undertaking does not fall under that offence. Buses do it every day, do they be instigating a collision. Not a good idea to make multi lane changes. They are one of the main causes of road collisions.
@@intrepidbun5002overtaking when you’re in a position of undertaking is a lot more dangerous. You have to change lanes firstly into their lane. That’s problematic because there most likely will be not a very large gap there since the car you’re overtaking is driving slow mo. Once in their lane and driving at their slow speed, you have to pick up speed massively and quickly to switch lanes and overtake them. Then you have to switch 2 lanes back to the left to get back to where you were originally. That’s 4 lane changes during which there will be cars coming up behind you travelling at 20-30mph greater speed. You would also be trusting the car doing the shenanigans to not switch lanes into the faster lane while you’re behind them and waiting to find the opportunity when you can. They most likely won’t but that chance alone is equal to the under taking change (given that they’re already driving badly). The 4 lanes changes just for one over take is too much. Specially with the quick speed changes. Imagine if there’s someone behind you travelling at the speed limit too, just like you were until you decided not to undertake. That car behind you might also be looking to overtake at that same point. Then imagine you’re worrying about them and the car in front driving slowly brakes due to an unnecessary overreaction (maybe a slight bend or God knows because why are they in that lane to begin with). If the mototway is empty. Its safer to overtake. But not otherwise.
We have the same exact issue in Italy and consider that we have maybe the highest car density related to population in Europe. The amount of vehicles is simply too high for the motorway system which was designed in the sixties. The average low "road education" makes it even worse. In my opinion adding more lanes doesn't solve anything without proper driving attitude.
Well afraid on M25 it common to see inside lane unused and the third lane of 4 with people say it it. Afraid it always seem to be the same type of person also . Not sure if they took a uk test or not
You need to try driving in Ireland !! People in the inner lane on Motorways driving at 80kms when the speed limit is 120 . Inevitably there is a traffic jam around them.
I love lane changing. But then again, I haven't been on a long motorway drive yet. Also, I never aim to go over 70 on my speedometer. I ain't risking it. Besides, the slower the safer!
And end manoeuvre is IMO why it's worth it to have strong cars - you can do overtakes in fast and safe manner, instead of taking ages to do anything. We have old miata nc with 160hp when new and as of recently toyota gr86 with I think 220?240 hp... Superb little creatures. Swift action and it's done. And I'm beginner still, just shy of 2 years driving them, but still, I feel safe when I know that I don't have to beg the car to do something, I just think about it and it's already done. Driving family member's mercedes automatic was poor experience, in sport mode it eventually resembled the car, but still, you hit gas and need to wait that something happens is just weird experience, and honestly, makes me anxious, because I can't rely on the car if my brain has to include car lag in addition to my slow reactions. May be adhd thing, but at least with our sporty ones I have fun and I feel like my brain is directly connected to the pedals. I'm into skills, not speed and I'll cross the limit for situations like swiftly overtaking - I think it's safer to do 130-140 to overtake someone doing 100-110 on 120 kmh limit than doing 120. However, I probably will cruise behind them until they drop to 90-100 anyway. Or if they constantly brake, that's just annoying so I prefer having them behind me.
If you're going to move to overtake someone in the outside-most lane, GET YOUR FOOT DOWN!!! If you're not comfortable getting your foot down, don't bother moving into that lane, you're just slowing everyone else down and causing traffic problems.
Muchos accidentes se producen por golpes de viento laterales, al adelantar o por zonas de aceleración de viento, también por badenes no señalizados, me parece una Auténtica irresponsabilidad agarrar el volante en la forma en que usted lo hace.
Tbf i drive in lane 1 mostly becuase im hardly on motorway and i find it much more relaxing to many people put you in danger in the other lanes thinking its a game to go as fast as possible and almost hit you i like my big sheild from idiot drivers normally sit inbetween to trucks one behind one in front you feel very safe aswell as getting amazing fuel MPG figures its a win win really
That's how it works in Spain in my experience. Except sometimes people will hog the middle lane for no reason, and almost everyone does roundabouts wrong, so it's also terrible.
Yes I lived in Madrid/ Mostoles for two years and I have noticed that it seems like once madrileños have gotten their driver's license, they completely forget about how to approach a round about.
@@notundermywatch3163 they're taught wrong. The govt and the police think you're supposed to always stay on the outer lane and use the inner ones to "overtake"
@@Hubris1998 yes, such drivers are i a nightmare on the highway. But I was pointing also at the fact that drivers in Madrid are exceptionally bad at circulating in roundabouts.
@@notundermywatch3163 I think you're misunderstanding me. I was talking about lanes in roundabouts. In any other context, that's how you're supposed to drive; always stick to the right unless you're overtaking somebody. The problem with treating roundabouts like any other road the way the DGT does in Spain is that it completely defeats the purpose of having roundabouts in the first place. So you'll see idiots trying to exit them straight from the inner lane and other idiots using the outer lane to do a 180 and then acting outraged when people "cut them off"
Finally, a video on motorway driving, by someone who actually understands how to do it. Here by way of example, the myth of the ‘middle lane hogger’ is debunked, and yet there are still comments that run along the lines of; (to be read in a whiny voice) “In the middle of the night with no traffic on the road I had to overtake someone hogging the middle lane”. Granted, if the left lane is completely free then it should be used, but if the far right lane is also clear then it isn’t really causing any problems, there is absolutely no reason to cause a fuss, just overtake. These types of comments are generally made by bad drivers who don’t understand how to drive on a motorway, they just repeat the mantra ‘middle lane hogging is bad’, without really understanding what it means. Driving on a motorway requires a lot more skill than just moving over to the left lane constantly. Of course I do concede, there are occasions when traffic is impeded by drivers being in the wrong lane, this video has a good example of this right at the end, but the majority of “middle lane hoggers” that I come across are just avoiding slow moving traffic in the left lane and as long as the far right lane is free it doesn’t cause me any problems, I just move over and pass them. The one objection I have to this video though is the undertaking. Overtaking on the near side is a very dangerous manoeuvre and should only be done with careful consideration, and never, if an offside lane is free.
Overtaking in the driving lane is safer than making multi lane changes to lane 3 and back again. And even less safe than having to move to lane 4 to pass a hoggers in lane 3 and back again. Lane changing is one of the major causes of road collisions.
These problems can also been seen when there is zero traffic eg. late at night. Even with no traffic, people will still sit in lane 2/3/4 for no good reason. If you're in lane 1 doing the speed limit and there's someone in lane 3 going slowly, you're then supposed to move over THREE empty lanes just to overtake one car 🙄
I wish I could cruise at 70 in the fast lane. I've a 1.2 clio with no 6th gear and at 70 I'm screaming along at 3300 rpm so I sit slowing down everyone at 60 in lane 1. I understand why they don't put 6 speed manuals in small petrol cars but I sure wish I had one for motorways!
It might make a bit of a noise but it's not going to blow. Having said that I've driven a 6 speed Fiat 500 with a 1 litre. You do have to shift out of the 6th gear a lot on slight inclines, but on flat it might save a few drops of fuel. The Mini Cooper S feels like it could use a gear 7 or 8 as it still pulls fairly quickly from 70 up in 6th. The Micra K11 is like 3000 rpm at 60, and can still get to 80 in 3rd at its 6900 rpm limit, but wouldn't keep it there the whole trip - just to overtake lol. I liked that car - annoyingly turned right into the side of a Toyota Yaris, and had to write it off due to minute frame damage.
People dont have the confidence to change lanes thats why they dont move back. The thing i do if using cruise control and catching the car in front and a vehicle is catching behind with a gap behind i can take is to actually pause cruise control then as they are level start and slot straight in behind and let the gap grow . When its busy if you wait for a 4 seconds gap it aint happening yet if you can take a 2 second gap or smaller safely . It then allows people travelling faster to get past once you pull back as you are confident you can change lanes later on when needed
I'd even go further regarding the speed threshold sure most people know that a vehicle's speedometer isn't 100% accurate. But there's one problem that isn't always mentioned and that is every vehicle has different levels of speedometer accuracy, so everyone is doing different speeds to each other. For example one cars 70mph indicated could be a 65mph indicated. So everyone is having to overtake and it just creates a mess if every manufacturer made speedometers 100% accurate, people had better lane discipline motorways would move more freely oh also get rid of average speed cameras that would get rid of the rubber banding effects on roads.
They don't want to get in trouble with the law for making it read slower by accident, so they make it read slightly faster just in case. I've seen different accuracies though, like an old Volvo V40 that read 100 at 89.
this is why the a14 is so awful. 2 lanes almost the entire time and most of it has trucks in the 2nd lane trying to overtake other trucks so you go max 60mph in the 2nd lane for the entire bloody journey
8:52 That was poor. You knew it was poor. You could try throwing on a right signal and give them a few flashes with the lights, I have found that people get the hint when I do the equivalent but to the left in the USA.
As if writing this comment I just drove from Germany to the UK. I was the easiest thing ever on the other side of the channel, able to cruise at the speed limits in each country… Until I got to the place I sadly call home, the UK. I blame the driving culture, extremely toxic and angry and no care for other road users. When somebody in Germany cut me off by accident and nearly side swiped me I gave em a toot and they waved to apologise. Same thing happened in the UK and I got brake checked.
I don't know why the truck on the left doesn't just let it slow down 2 mph. Also don't get me started on strictly camera enforced 50 limits. It really clogs up the passing lane by forbidding a few mph faster, because realistically, people in the left and middle lane aren't going to want to do 40 and 45.
Before doing that risky left lane overtake at th end, try blinking the car with high beams on and off to wake them up. You see this so common in Germany
Maybe that works in Germany because people not sure if the car is coming 200km/h or speed limit? Usually people hog overtake lane not due to incompetence but due to mentality. So flashing them will just make them even more stubborn and entitled.
That undertake gave me great satisfaction to watch
likewise... another smashing video spitting true faxxxx
Hope Ashley Neal doesn't read your comment. Hell have a stroke!
It's illegal on the Autobahn, but then people don't sit at 65 in the passing lane either.
@@TimpBizkit What about traffic jams or congested traffic where inner lanes are moving faster. It's legal to undertake on German roads at a speed up to 80kmh.
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Once driving back up north got to the m62... almost middle of the night so kinda quiet.. still some nutcase poodling along in the middle lane.. literally NO OTHER CAR FOR MILES.
so I figured sod it, and started "orbiting" him. so went all the way to 3rd lane overtook went all the way back for 1st... slowed down to fall behind, rinse repeat. after the 3rd the guy still hadn't got the hint, by that time a fellow man of culture joined in, he got a really weird look on his face and left the motorway somewhat quickly.
This is the funniest thing I've read today 😂😂😂
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“Orbiting” is hilarious🤣
I am really enjoying your channel. We are definitely on the same wave length when it comes to driving. You get a big thumbs up from me for your overtaking manoeuvre at the end. Some people will say you are reckless, but I say the knob head blocking you from doing the speed limit and getting to your destination is the reckless one.
Legend! Thank you :)
Definitely, I would have done the same, I always flash and beep first then as I'm passing I show them how missed off I am lol.
In Poland we have two lanes and we can perfectly coexist with both trucks and people doing 120mph. Such a mess in the UK
Also trucks are banned from overtaking each other, that helps a lot
Good god, I would not expect a HGV to be capable of overtaking anything at speeds in excess of 120 mph. or do you mean 120 kilometres per hour. That's about 70/75 mph.
@@rcraven1013 he meant km for sure lol
@@becc_snipenah, we have 140km/hrs speed limit but bcs of lack of cameras, people often just doing from 140-170
@@hidenfoxtm 30 above is crazy
in Poland drivers constanty drive well above national speed limit of 90kmh on normal single carriegeway roads (not highways/expressways) and bareley slowing down in built-up areas which is really annoying
safety, as compared to civilised western european countries, really sucks
My rule of thumb is to minimize lane changes as much as possible. But If there is someone behind me coming up, wanting to drive faster, I take the next posibility to move out the way to let them pass. This needs a change in behaviour to most people. USE YOUR MIRRORS, almost use 50/50 rule at how much you watch what's happening behind you. Make sure to know when someone comes up, so you know when to get out of the way. In Germany more people drive in that way, it's a way easier drive that way.
I minimize lane changes as much as possible too. When driving semi locally, I tend to just sit in the cruising lane (the right lane here in the US) and go with the flow of traffic. To be honest, I don't understand why so many people are in such a hurry and making a big deal out of 5-10 MPH. On a 30 mile all highway commute, the difference between 70 MPH and 80 MPH is only about 3 minutes and realistically less than that because some of the commute will almost certainly be on lower speed streets. Not worth stressing over, getting tickets, taking risks, etc IMO.
On long distance road trips I completely understand and try to travel at the highest practical speed too, but since most people's daily commute and most of their other driving is semi local anyways, what's the big deal?
I would recommend following the actual rules and laws of driving, IE keep in the left most pant unless overtaking. Not some rule you’ve made up 😅
I always find this kind of traffic the most dangerous. When there's a high volume but all moving at the national speed limit. I call it Nascar traffic because it's a bit like driving in Nascar. You make a good point as well, personally even an ADI will see no issue with you cruising in lane 3 so long as you're moving faster than the traffic in lane 2.
Coming from a country with only 2 lanes as standard (because of less traffic), I suppose it's a bit comforting to see that even with 4 lanes human behavior doesn't fundamentally change things for the better. Still a good video for me when I'll drive abroad. Though I will admit, I am one of those who will never overtake or cruise faster than 5-10 km/h past the speed limit and if you're bombing so fast that you were a tiny dot in my rear-view mirrors on the fast lane and you STILL get stuck behind me? Tough shit, you'll have to wait for me to overtake and move back, no matter how much you flash your lights or whatnot. I suppose it's a result of how our driving instructors teach here: "If you are more than 10% over OR under the speed limit without good cause, you're doing something wrong." is what I boiled it down to - it helps a newly minted driver like myself either keep his head on or find courage to go right up to the speed limit and not block people behind me (too much at least).
That being said...the person at the end really was an idiot. The overtake lane is never for shutting off your brain and cruising at any kind of speed (because there's always going to be someone that wants to go faster and you won't have time to move out of the way before you block them), especially not one below the speed limit without moving back. A thoughtless person like that is pretty much provoking an accident from someone behind them who's in a hurry and is less controlled as yourself.
Lucky to find a 4 lane motorway tbh, most are 3 and quite a few have 2 for some of it at least.
Changing lanes in front of fast approaching traffic is very bad driving. You are forcing them to brake heavily in order to avoid a collision, and if they are going too fast to stop in time you could easily be rear-ended at 220Kmh and killed.
@@PointNemo9As I said, if they are literally an indistinguishable dot in my mirrors - if I'd be able to see them, ofc I'm not gonna change my lane to be a prick. But there are things like motorcyclists weaving between cars at 200+ an hour for the sheer fun of it and I have no way whatsoever to 'not get in their way'. A potential collision is very much so entirely on them.
@@PointNemo9 Which is why you check your mirror multiple times over 5+ seconds to see if someone is actually approaching fast or just there for one reason or another. Then again I wouldn't expect the British to drive well given how their entire drivers ed is based on teaching useless flaff like using the handbrake 24/7 while pressing the button while pulling it up (literally against manufacturer instructions for any car with a manual parking brake) or checking your "blindspot" before moving off from next to the pavement that has a raised curb next to it (completely impossible to harm someone on the pavement when moving off anyway, so why does it matter? Plus if your mirrors are adjusted correclty you will not have the pavement anywhere near your blindspots). Or the absolute most worthless thing ever: not dry steering because "it wears the steering mechanism". If dry steering was capable of wearing any part of your steering mechanism, the car would go out of alignment or lose all steering if you braked just a little bit too hard. The only time and reason you genuinely should avoid dry steering if you can is on freshly resurfaced roads on hot summer days. Depending on where you live they'll just lay bitumen and rocks on top of the existing road which will get loose and be an annoying mess on hot days for a good while until it settles.
About the over or under the limit bit: at least in my country (in the EU) you're required by law to let people past if you're driving even very slighly below the speed limit. Most people don't do that because they're muppets but you WILL fail you driving test if you drive below the speed limit and don't intentionally let people past. The only time I've had someone hog the left lane was when some yob was doing 10 below in the overtake lane for no reason with literally no one but me and them in sight. Undertook them after flashing like 8 times behind them and drove for a good 15 minutes at the speed limit before the same guy blasts past me and starts driving in the middle of the 2 lanes and flashing his turn signals randomly. I was honestly laughing my ass off for a good minute after I saw that. Completely baffling behaviour. Even people who do like twice the speed limit on that road have enough courtesy to not hog the overtake lane but damn that guy was some other breed; or just drunk/high.
@@loonie5468 well in your earlier comment you said you're a new driver, I'll give you a tip that's helped me out:
If a car comes along that's faster, just act like you are part of the generic traffic, basically let the faster car do whatever and you just stay out of their way.
If you are driving faster, then it's your job to ensure you aren't putting the traffic in danger with your driving.
The Dutch have a great solution to this - it is actually illegal for trucks to overtake each other most of the time! Always illegal on 2-lane highways, and illegal during rush hour on 4-lane highways or greater. It very greatly eases congestion.
Not always, there are plenty of (2-lane) highways where trucks can overtake each other. For example, A67. It is 100 % the biggest cause of hindered traffic. They overtake to save 5 seconds while everyone loses 2 minutes.
Not true at all. Although there are plenty of highways where it is prohibited, on the majority is it still allowed.
@@Domce133A67 is the worst highway of the Netherlands in terms of traffic by far
@@ofjeworstlust69 yea its aids. Trucks are abomination on that highway. They need to increase it to 3 lanes asap.
@@ofjeworstlust69 I guess I must've just gotten lucky, then! I very, very rarely see trucks overtake each other on my way to work, or on my way to anywhere else, really.
You exaggerate when you say that 77 on the speedometer is like 70 in reality. No car has a 10% margin error. A 77 in the car is likely a 74-ish in reality, unless you have a very dodge car.
While I can't speak for sure about mph speedometers, I can confirm it's always 5-10% on km/h speedometers. Just did 140 km/h on the readout recently while Garmin tracked me as doing 130 km/h in actual fact so...even if it is an exaggaration, he's not that far off the mark.
@@loonie5468 Thanks, never tested in KPH. I used to do that test on many cars in the UK (for work) and it was never more than 7% which is roughly what you said. But 10%, never seen in my life, I just read it's a legal threshold but rarely if ever reached. It can sometimes say 22mph for 20mph so that would be 10% indeed but when you go to 70mph, the margin error in relative terms do reduce to 5%-7%.
You say that, but mine is about 5% off and I'm regularly pushed down another 5-ish percent by people ostensibly doing the speed limit on their speedometer 🙂
You are right. He exaggerated. The margin of error is usually less than 6%
My friend had an old Volvo V80 estate and 100 on the speedo was 89 on the satnav. I think the GPS can underread as well as I put on a song I knew with 134 bpm and drove in town when it was quiet enough to not queue up and where you have a road line every 6 meters, trying to get a road line passed in every beat of the song. 804 meters a minute works out as almost exactly 30 miles per hour. The speedo was reading about 31 or 32 and the phone was only reading 28-29.
This video cannot be more relatable. I find myself doing the left lane adaptive cruise a lot just to save myself the fuss. When I wanna go 70 its always impossible
@3:20 I think it would be interesting to talk about this more and even the speed cameras and Average Speed Cameras.
100% facts, and my partner wonders why I whine 😀
Hogging the fast lane at 65 should be illegal.
Yeah yeah, its a limit not a goal but those 5mph slower really add up
Which lane is the fast lane? All good and aware drivers are lane 1/2/3/4/ etc.
@@terryable-hh4ck in the UK is the far right
@@terryable-hh4ck The fast lane is the right-most overtaking lane.
@@zxr250fast lane my ass, the limit is 70
What is the overtaking lane? I overtook a vehicle in lane two - middle of three - on a motorway only yesterday@@zxr250
I'm often startled when I pull into a motorway service station, walk to the bathroom and realise I have been sharing the motorway with so many people that seem like idiots.
Liked just for that bit at the end 😂
Mate this video is fantastic. I've argued this for the longest time and online all you hear is "no you're wrong, just stay in lane 1". The way I see it:
- lane 1: 55-60mph. lorries for days
- lane 2: 60-65mph. usually not where you want to be if you don't have all day
- lane 3: 65-70mph. the first usable lane
- lane 4: (almost) guaranteed national speed limit, outside of really busy times. I usually sit here at 72mph on Waze and overtake literally hundreds of cars per hour. if there's an M3 or a range rover sat in my back seat I'll move over to lane 3 and let them through, then move back to lane 4 to continue
The correct way to use a motorway is to be regularly changing lanes, not cruising in a lane for miles.
That lane 4 description is exactly how I travel 95% of the time.
@@MickDrivesCars same but at 10 mph over the middle lane. People who want to go faster that 85 I just let past me as apart from legal reasons and possible middle lane pulling out ditzes, the car begins to drink fuel way more noticeably north of 90.
A light hold on the steering wheel is good. No hold on the steering wheel at 70mph not so!😎
His knees held it?
Mick, you understand the issues of the motorway network and the frustrating restrictions. However, there are missed opportunities in your approach, and I would invite you to consider the TED factor when passing HGVs, your lane positioning within the lane, and to reconsider how you could mitigate the risk of undertaking vehicles that are not in a queue or signalling right. Sadly motorway training in the UK has long been a bit of a misnomer as very few ADI's have received sound training themselves.
Here in the US the truckers have no lane etiquette. I've had to undertake 18-wheelers so many times and it's so frustrating and dangerous. We have a huge aggressive driving problem too (lotta tailgaters/weavers)
Live in Ireland, same issue here with 2 lane motorways. Very refreshing however to see some drivers who are overtaking a long line of traffic in lane 1, that will pull into a small gap in lane 1 to let you past then resume overtaking at their preferred speed. Very simple, doesn’t slow anybody down, and I feel it should be a more common sight on the road.
I really appreciate this video. Please make more videos about everyday driving especially how to drive in busy motorways and give advanced pro driving tips and also make videos on night time city and motorway driving
This is great, thanks 😂
Going on a motorway tomorrow with my instructor.
Nice undertake bro
In the US it's the same idea, except drivers are stupider. Lane 3 will usually have a minivan doing 55, lane 2 is the 70mph traffic, and lane 1 is me, flying by "at the speed limit"
Lane etiquette in USA is pure diabolical chaos.
This vid has convinced me to subscribe mate!
No doubt you’re also familiar with those M roads with variable speed limit displays + cameras on gantries. Although the HoC is a bit mealy mouthed with it, it’s tolerable to pass on either side when they are active. It is actually useful at maximising capacity, and reduces the need for lane changes, which can be risky overall. Just be careful about something being in your blind spot when planning to move from 2 to 1, e.g.!
8:50 - These are usually the road users most likely to anecdotally report "Oh yea I get tailgated all the time", is it any wonder when you're under the speed limit and preventing the entire lane from making progress when you yourself can continue making progress in the left hand lane?
😂😂😂
It could well be that their speedometer is off by a couple of miles. They think they drive the speed limit, but are actually a couple miles under.
I would say that there is no excuse for tailgating whatever speed the vehicle in front is going. Some drivers go slower, it is all part of our modern motoring world.
Tailgating I agree, however I'd argue that if you lack the ability &/or confidence to drive to the conditions of the road (dry & clear visibility) you shouldn't be operating a vehicle, both failing to make progress & causing other drivers to adjust their speed are faults in the driving test.
That would be discriminatory. How fast is fast, how slow is slow? We all meet slower drivers on any journey, but the problem as I see is the 'new' class of driver who is impatient, intolerant and unforgiving - see any dash cam video - which gives way to accusations of holding up all and sundry. I, as a boy racer in a previous life, now drive at or just below any posted speed limit, and I always ensure there is overtaking space in front of me. We drivers must be prepared to accommodate all types of driver on our journeys throughout the highways of the Kingdom.@@commanchi7
Boy you would HATE driving anywhere in north america. You drive like saints on the highways over there compared so some of the idiots I've witnessed. That same level of traffic would become total gridlock due to driver incompetency.
Here in Ukraine in most cases we have 3 lanes
We have right lane - for trucks, entering/exiting, electric cars on low battery etc
We have middle lane - where basically everyone going around 60-70 mph
And we have left lane - where everyone going around 80-90+ mph, because we don't have a lot of speed cameras (but it's kind of funny, how everyone who was going 90 mph slow down in sync before the camera)
And I actually wasn't even thinking about how great this system is
But looking at your road system, I kind of get it know
Great content!
Good to see you undertaking. Too many "experts" out there who think it's illegal, driving instructors included. You don't need to apologise for undertaking. Its the instructors are the ones who need to apologise for feeding their students with their rubbish on road rules.
Is undertaking in the motorway legal in UK?
Here in Germany undertaking is illegal, unless the traffic on the other lane is stucking (moving less than 60 km/h), then you can undertake with maximum 20 km/h difference.
@@heizoeli9152 Yes it is legal it any speed within the limit. In Germany I always believed it was legal up to 80kmh.
@@SteveMcIlhennie You are right. 60 km/h + 20 km/h difference = 80 km/h. ;)
Is this supposed to be a joke? You keep left unless overtaking, simple. The amount of people who still don’t follow this rules is crazy.
Have heard the 2 letters "UK"?
the left lane is too slow
If you’re constantly overtaking why would you keep switching lanes
I have two cars. My winter/spring/autumn bad weather 59 bhp up! and my good weather 109 bhp MX-5. My bad weather car is a terribly slow car that is definitely not designed for long commutes. On the motorway I always have to make a decision with the up!. I either have to gondola along in the lorry lane or blast through at 100 mph. Have to say... driving 100 mph in an small little econemy car is pretty amusing. After all, the MX-5 at least manages 120 mph with the soft top closed... although it is quite exciting to drive open top at this speed.
59hp? Foookin ell is that even safe mate. Even the aygo has 68hp
@@adamek9750 The acceleration lane on the motorway is usually not long enough and I have to keep driving on the hard shoulder to build up enough speed before joining.
@@Sir-Prizsethats gotta be scary
@@adamek9750 Living on the edge! 😂It's only a problem when someone has broken down again on the hard shoulder and I drive towards him at "full throttle".
I heard the first line and was about to comment and then I remembered you guys drive on the left lmao
Being behind a track means getting better chances to get a stone into your windshield.
I really wouldn't mind cruising behind a truck in the left most lane. The problem is that this lane often turns into an exit, and before I know it, I'm out of the motorway, heading somewhere I never meant to go 😅
8:54 hahah that made me lol especially with the "NOPE"
In Germany its truck and slow traffic right, cruising at 150 kph in the middle and the race track.
Don’t move into the leftmost lane if you’re not driving fast
No, everyone traffic in the right, and overtakes in the left and middle
@@xballoon4402 That’s how it should be in theory but in reality the right lane is blocked by trucks so cars are in the center and left lane.
@@yournemesis192 no, my experiences in Germany are that everyone stays on the right and when they approach a truck they overtake and get back to the right. If you drive the way you say, you are a bad driver blocking traffic
My reason to go adaptive cruise control behind a truck is for electric driving on a longer distance. If I don’t have to charge as much is much easier to get to the destination
Accurate speedometers would help a lot. With GPS, there's no reason they can't be self calibrating to within a fraction of an mph these days.
HGV's need a 65mph, 30 seconds long overtaking boost button.
Once again another amazing video thank you Mick ❤
7:18 Here in Poland last year they introduced a new law which prohibits lorry drivers from overtaking on 2-lane motorways for this reason. Of course there is an exception when someone is driving like 40, then lorries can overtake such a driver. But it works very well.
I've subscribed to you for when I pass my test 🤣
in germany not a lot of trucks overtake each other, highways are usually 2 or 3 lanes, but there is a similar problem with how people stick to the middle lane cuz the first lane is always for the trucks, however since there (mostly) is no speed limit, people go like 120kmh (roughly 80mph) in middle lane usually, maybe a little less but def not 60mph or 65mph. and the last lane is for if a truck is overtaking (rare occurance) or someone who wants to go like 140kmh+
it’s a little reassuring to see that these issues aren’t exclusive to here in the US, but some of these truck drivers are straight up cruising in lanes 3 and 4
In Melbourne, Australia it's pretty much exactly the same, probably even worse tbh. I think a lot less people understand the concept of lane discipline over here.
Interesting explanation. Watching this from India 🇮🇳
Funny to see this issue is the same in the UK as in The Netherlands.
Driving daily over 200km and it is exactly like this.
Might be a fun idea to do this with 2 lane highways / motoway
I thought this was going to be more of a tutorial but it turned out to just be my routine road trip rant recorded on a GoPro.
Refreshing your honesty!😊
Same here in Czech Republic. Except most of our highways have only two lines - one and four 🙈
The 4-lane motorways would probably work better if you were required to do the speed limit to be in the outermost lane. I've had my license for just half a year, and the amount of times you have to stand on the brake because some idiot pulls in front of you at a way too low speed is incredible 😂
I hate it when people pull into the BMW lane in front of me! lol
Personally I wouldn’t agree with the 2 undertakes at 5:20. You’ll get into an accident one day. If you don’t rate those drivers you should expect that one of them will change lane into you.
If there's a hoggers in lane 3 do you think in would be safer for all lanes to go to a bottle neck in lane 4? Some drivers may not check to their right when changing lanes. Does that mean we should never overtake?
This is the best video I've seen on UK motorway driving. It puts Ashley Neal's videos to shame.
@@MrJohnny3shoeswhy undertake when you can overtake? that was my point. you should be looking to avoid accidents, not instigate them
@@intrepidbun5002 To instigate a collision (not accident) I would have to be driving without due care and attention, which is a criminal offence. Undertaking does not fall under that offence. Buses do it every day, do they be instigating a collision. Not a good idea to make multi lane changes. They are one of the main causes of road collisions.
@@intrepidbun5002overtaking when you’re in a position of undertaking is a lot more dangerous. You have to change lanes firstly into their lane. That’s problematic because there most likely will be not a very large gap there since the car you’re overtaking is driving slow mo. Once in their lane and driving at their slow speed, you have to pick up speed massively and quickly to switch lanes and overtake them. Then you have to switch 2 lanes back to the left to get back to where you were originally. That’s 4 lane changes during which there will be cars coming up behind you travelling at 20-30mph greater speed. You would also be trusting the car doing the shenanigans to not switch lanes into the faster lane while you’re behind them and waiting to find the opportunity when you can. They most likely won’t but that chance alone is equal to the under taking change (given that they’re already driving badly). The 4 lanes changes just for one over take is too much. Specially with the quick speed changes. Imagine if there’s someone behind you travelling at the speed limit too, just like you were until you decided not to undertake. That car behind you might also be looking to overtake at that same point. Then imagine you’re worrying about them and the car in front driving slowly brakes due to an unnecessary overreaction (maybe a slight bend or God knows because why are they in that lane to begin with). If the mototway is empty. Its safer to overtake. But not otherwise.
Literally another reason to object the “just one more lane bro I swear”
What are the notions or thoughts regarding undertaking / blind-side overtaking in the United Kingdom?
Frowned upon, unless there's heavy traffic with all lanes moving at a similar speed
@@MickDrivesCars Heavy or light traffic, undertaking is acceptable.
We have the same exact issue in Italy and consider that we have maybe the highest car density related to population in Europe. The amount of vehicles is simply too high for the motorway system which was designed in the sixties. The average low "road education" makes it even worse. In my opinion adding more lanes doesn't solve anything without proper driving attitude.
Very nice Vid easy too understand ✅
another banger(informative) video by mick lets go
Well afraid on M25 it common to see inside lane unused and the third lane of 4 with people say it it. Afraid it always seem to be the same type of person also . Not sure if they took a uk test or not
Still haven’t seen traffic. Hello from LA.
You need to try driving in Ireland !! People in the inner lane on Motorways driving at 80kms when the speed limit is 120 . Inevitably there is a traffic jam around them.
How would it cause a traffic jam? The other 2 of 3 can be used for getting past.
Great explanation! Thanks
I love lane changing. But then again, I haven't been on a long motorway drive yet.
Also, I never aim to go over 70 on my speedometer. I ain't risking it. Besides, the slower the safer!
Do this on the m25 or M1 during the week, totally different experience 😂
And end manoeuvre is IMO why it's worth it to have strong cars - you can do overtakes in fast and safe manner, instead of taking ages to do anything. We have old miata nc with 160hp when new and as of recently toyota gr86 with I think 220?240 hp... Superb little creatures. Swift action and it's done. And I'm beginner still, just shy of 2 years driving them, but still, I feel safe when I know that I don't have to beg the car to do something, I just think about it and it's already done. Driving family member's mercedes automatic was poor experience, in sport mode it eventually resembled the car, but still, you hit gas and need to wait that something happens is just weird experience, and honestly, makes me anxious, because I can't rely on the car if my brain has to include car lag in addition to my slow reactions. May be adhd thing, but at least with our sporty ones I have fun and I feel like my brain is directly connected to the pedals. I'm into skills, not speed and I'll cross the limit for situations like swiftly overtaking - I think it's safer to do 130-140 to overtake someone doing 100-110 on 120 kmh limit than doing 120. However, I probably will cruise behind them until they drop to 90-100 anyway. Or if they constantly brake, that's just annoying so I prefer having them behind me.
If you're going to move to overtake someone in the outside-most lane, GET YOUR FOOT DOWN!!!
If you're not comfortable getting your foot down, don't bother moving into that lane, you're just slowing everyone else down and causing traffic problems.
Muchos accidentes se producen por golpes de viento laterales, al adelantar o por zonas de aceleración de viento, también por badenes no señalizados, me parece una Auténtica irresponsabilidad agarrar el volante en la forma en que usted lo hace.
Tbf i drive in lane 1 mostly becuase im hardly on motorway and i find it much more relaxing to many people put you in danger in the other lanes thinking its a game to go as fast as possible and almost hit you i like my big sheild from idiot drivers normally sit inbetween to trucks one behind one in front you feel very safe aswell as getting amazing fuel MPG figures its a win win really
UK highway code should update. Following the truck is very dangerous, especially when you between two trucks.
That's how it works in Spain in my experience. Except sometimes people will hog the middle lane for no reason, and almost everyone does roundabouts wrong, so it's also terrible.
Yes I lived in Madrid/ Mostoles for two years and I have noticed that it seems like once madrileños have gotten their driver's license, they completely forget about how to approach a round about.
@@notundermywatch3163 they're taught wrong. The govt and the police think you're supposed to always stay on the outer lane and use the inner ones to "overtake"
@@Hubris1998 yes, such drivers are i a nightmare on the highway. But I was pointing also at the fact that drivers in Madrid are exceptionally bad at circulating in roundabouts.
@@notundermywatch3163 I think you're misunderstanding me. I was talking about lanes in roundabouts. In any other context, that's how you're supposed to drive; always stick to the right unless you're overtaking somebody. The problem with treating roundabouts like any other road the way the DGT does in Spain is that it completely defeats the purpose of having roundabouts in the first place. So you'll see idiots trying to exit them straight from the inner lane and other idiots using the outer lane to do a 180 and then acting outraged when people "cut them off"
Finally, a video on motorway driving, by someone who actually understands how to do it. Here by way of example, the myth of the ‘middle lane hogger’ is debunked, and yet there are still comments that run along the lines of; (to be read in a whiny voice)
“In the middle of the night with no traffic on the road I had to overtake someone hogging the middle lane”.
Granted, if the left lane is completely free then it should be used, but if the far right lane is also clear then it isn’t really causing any problems, there is absolutely no reason to cause a fuss, just overtake. These types of comments are generally made by bad drivers who don’t understand how to drive on a motorway, they just repeat the mantra ‘middle lane hogging is bad’, without really understanding what it means. Driving on a motorway requires a lot more skill than just moving over to the left lane constantly. Of course I do concede, there are occasions when traffic is impeded by drivers being in the wrong lane, this video has a good example of this right at the end, but the majority of “middle lane hoggers” that I come across are just avoiding slow moving traffic in the left lane and as long as the far right lane is free it doesn’t cause me any problems, I just move over and pass them. The one objection I have to this video though is the undertaking. Overtaking on the near side is a very dangerous manoeuvre and should only be done with careful consideration, and never, if an offside lane is free.
Overtaking in the driving lane is safer than making multi lane changes to lane 3 and back again. And even less safe than having to move to lane 4 to pass a hoggers in lane 3 and back again. Lane changing is one of the major causes of road collisions.
These problems can also been seen when there is zero traffic eg. late at night. Even with no traffic, people will still sit in lane 2/3/4 for no good reason. If you're in lane 1 doing the speed limit and there's someone in lane 3 going slowly, you're then supposed to move over THREE empty lanes just to overtake one car 🙄
I wish I could cruise at 70 in the fast lane. I've a 1.2 clio with no 6th gear and at 70 I'm screaming along at 3300 rpm so I sit slowing down everyone at 60 in lane 1. I understand why they don't put 6 speed manuals in small petrol cars but I sure wish I had one for motorways!
With a small 1.2l engine 3300rpm is definitely not screaming at 70mph🙂
It might make a bit of a noise but it's not going to blow. Having said that I've driven a 6 speed Fiat 500 with a 1 litre. You do have to shift out of the 6th gear a lot on slight inclines, but on flat it might save a few drops of fuel. The Mini Cooper S feels like it could use a gear 7 or 8 as it still pulls fairly quickly from 70 up in 6th.
The Micra K11 is like 3000 rpm at 60, and can still get to 80 in 3rd at its 6900 rpm limit, but wouldn't keep it there the whole trip - just to overtake lol. I liked that car - annoyingly turned right into the side of a Toyota Yaris, and had to write it off due to minute frame damage.
People dont have the confidence to change lanes thats why they dont move back. The thing i do if using cruise control and catching the car in front and a vehicle is catching behind with a gap behind i can take is to actually pause cruise control then as they are level start and slot straight in behind and let the gap grow . When its busy if you wait for a 4 seconds gap it aint happening yet if you can take a 2 second gap or smaller safely . It then allows people travelling faster to get past once you pull back as you are confident you can change lanes later on when needed
Very curious: why is Lane being pronounced as ghane?
Not everyone can drive sensibly not everyone understands motorway driving
I'd even go further regarding the speed threshold sure most people know that a vehicle's speedometer isn't 100% accurate. But there's one problem that isn't always mentioned and that is every vehicle has different levels of speedometer accuracy, so everyone is doing different speeds to each other. For example one cars 70mph indicated could be a 65mph indicated. So everyone is having to overtake and it just creates a mess if every manufacturer made speedometers 100% accurate, people had better lane discipline motorways would move more freely oh also get rid of average speed cameras that would get rid of the rubber banding effects on roads.
They don't want to get in trouble with the law for making it read slower by accident, so they make it read slightly faster just in case. I've seen different accuracies though, like an old Volvo V40 that read 100 at 89.
Sorry mate, im not really knowledgeable about cars. But you can change gears by pulling them things on the steering wheel? Wow, what car do you have?
why did you hide the speedometer lol
Unfortunately, here in New Zealand, trucks can, and do, use any lane they want!
Undertaking is the main form of overtake in Australia…. 🇦🇺
this is why the a14 is so awful. 2 lanes almost the entire time and most of it has trucks in the 2nd lane trying to overtake other trucks so you go max 60mph in the 2nd lane for the entire bloody journey
the real Certi driver
8:52 That was poor. You knew it was poor.
You could try throwing on a right signal and give them a few flashes with the lights, I have found that people get the hint when I do the equivalent but to the left in the USA.
As if writing this comment I just drove from Germany to the UK. I was the easiest thing ever on the other side of the channel, able to cruise at the speed limits in each country… Until I got to the place I sadly call home, the UK. I blame the driving culture, extremely toxic and angry and no care for other road users.
When somebody in Germany cut me off by accident and nearly side swiped me I gave em a toot and they waved to apologise. Same thing happened in the UK and I got brake checked.
Is that a RS ?
whats up with the Ls?
That last guy probably was using his mirrors too... Just not using his brain at all 💀
I don't know why the truck on the left doesn't just let it slow down 2 mph. Also don't get me started on strictly camera enforced 50 limits. It really clogs up the passing lane by forbidding a few mph faster, because realistically, people in the left and middle lane aren't going to want to do 40 and 45.
That poor fn2 😞
Before doing that risky left lane overtake at th end, try blinking the car with high beams on and off to wake them up. You see this so common in Germany
Maybe that works in Germany because people not sure if the car is coming 200km/h or speed limit? Usually people hog overtake lane not due to incompetence but due to mentality. So flashing them will just make them even more stubborn and entitled.
@@Domce133 not just in Germany, it works in every country I been to in Europe
@@neonlight1214 That's odd. I've been tailgating people to get them off the lane, and even that doesn't work despite it being much more aggressive.
Bro your steering wheel is on the wrong Side of your car
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It doesn’t matter how many lanes you put on a motorway, most thickos will only use the outside three.
Just put on some classical music, and set the cruise for slightly below the limit …
In Germany, we typically only have three lanes. But you all know what the most left lane means to us 😈😈
It means FREIHEIT
Roads and highways in the US have the same problems... It really sucks
The same happens in Argentina.
Lmao I love the ending :D
camera setup ?
I prefer drafting a National express that does 65 mph. Averaged 60 mpg to London in a Citroen C2 this way.