@@measlesplease1266 Every once in a while I have a build that makes me laugh and undercuts the meta but if I actually put my heart behind a team I know I’m destined for sadness
@@FrostyFyre I’m in the same place, frankly. Just not enough variance for things to stay fun. I think the biggest limiter is the thing NL points out about people resetting. I’m having a hard time getting to round 3 without at least one loss, and I’m not running bad teams … it’s wack.
Not very useful information egglord, but I got a level 3 skunk last night. Reducing a 50/50 to a 50/1 really does makes your gourd overfloweth with pog
Butterflies also copy the stats of _healthiest_ friends, so it can make them target something that isn't their 50/50 carry. (They're changing this to copy from the friend with most combined attack and health though)
@@miguel7888 I thought they were changing it to copy the friend with the highest attack out of the ones with highest health. There were a lot of cases of them copying a 30/50 instead of a 50/50 because thats the one the algorithm has seen first
I love how he rants about people using good builds and then proceeds to build the same build he used 7 episodes in a row 😂 and I will still enjoy squeezing and juicing
There is a youtuber who does the duck strategy and his win rate is insane. I am pretty sure this is what has screwed with the game meta. Roll shop vigorously to get 5 ducks, if you lose a couple rounds that's fine. Combine ducks to get a lvl 2 duck and a tier 3 unit in shop. Roll through the shop and freeze a few good pets, don't worry about too much about spending on rolls since you'll be getting +5 gold when you sell the ducks. When you sell, everything gets +4+4 and if you get a good tier 3 you'll have a significant advantage in mid game rounds. Usually can get 6 or 7 wins.
NL, the lobster is a can of food, but in animal form. Anything you summon out of battle (i.e. when pivoting to a better tier) gets buffed. Anything summoned in battle does not get buffed.
(38:13) how does the ordering work with bats applying weakness to butterflies. NL's caterpillar got weakened and then turned into butterfly removing the effect. But the opponent turned first and then morphed! keeping the effect! next level plays?
The abilities resolve from the highest attack unit to the lowest, NL's bat had less attack than the enemies catterpillar, so it weakened it after it transformed
This game is brilliant but it really does need a penalty for repeatedly abandoning runs, so many people just sit there and manipulate a perfect first shop now.
I think Lobster buffs the animal you bought before battle. Its used so that if you buy a duplicate it gets a buff before you combine thus giving the combined animal +2+2 perminently?
dude i just got my first 10 win with a disgusting turkey fly combo (which ran a dog at the front) to see NL uploaded another ep i am so pogged right now holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
NL I don't know if it's a cool idea but maybe for those who leave on first round when they star another they have to fight a 2nd round team as a punish. What do you think?. Cheers! PD: sorry for my bad English.
Being kicked from the queue is too large of a punishment, instead there should be a point system that removes a rank point for each loss/abandon while giving you a rank point for winning, if you get 5 rank points you get bumped up a rank tier and get a bundle of shop points as an incentive, the higher the tier completed the bigger the point bundle.
@gothen nah there are literally people restarting to get a good shop and then playing it optimally to cheese midgame. This is the only game where I wouldn't mind an ELO/rank system. It's actually fun to do your best with what the game gives you.
@@measlesplease1266 but a shop only gets so optimal in the first round, what's the big meta here? Resetting until you get a few fishes? Or an ant and two beetles? I suppose you can manipulate rng your first round but it's just luck and skill from there on out. And I have a hard time believing a ranking system wouldn't make competition even harder
@@gothenmosph5151 for context one play is to reset for 5 ducks. Sell all for juiced up shop. Ive had an all duck shop before and it's nasty especially if you time a tier up animal
i've played too much super auto pets, as soon as NL' s battle is over I click the screen out of habit and accidentally pause the video. done it 4 times already and im half way through the video
Run 2, last turn, I believe the play was pill ant, buy lobster, sell shrimp, buy better stat animal/shrimp. Don't know if it would have saved the run with the team you went against, but more stats is more optimal. Lost too many stats from selling dromedary and ignoring lobster
Doing the math, it would have been a draw as you lost by 4 hp, and the caterpillar and shrimp with lobster play gives you +5 attack (shop shrimp has 1 more than roster shrimp)
Apple on Worm not worth? 3g +3/+3 not worth? When the only other food options you can guarantee are chocolate and pears? And 60% of Sashimi? Good wins anyway :)
I used to abandon games when I was down to a single life, then realized I was missing out on some hard earned 5 whole points and now I have 20 points. But in all seriousness I never restart to get a good team in the beginning, that's a cheesy way about it
So, I know it's weird, but I'm wondering, if NL's going to go with the scaling Dinosaurs, why not just get as many separate Dinosaurs as you can? Like a Level 2 Dinosaur gives everything else +4/+4. But if instead you have 3 level 1 Dinosaurs everything else gets +6/+6 and the Dinosaurs get +4/+4. So while a level 2 dinosaur gives 16/16 worth of stats every turn, 3 level 1 dinosaurs give 24/24 worth of stats each turn and the dinosaurs are actually scaling with everything else now too. Oh an it's not like the Dinosaurs start of that small either. I mean, 13/8 isn't really something to scoff at.
~30:45 "I don't even know what's happening here" honestly up until that run I was wondering why you're so anti Ladybug/'red beetle' ...and then you start running one and kick some ass! I would have run it alongside the worm, at least it will temporary pump on feeding the worm Also: you don't have to sell cow, buying another on top of it will still give you milk
But if you sell cow, get 1 gold, buy cow sell cow get 1 gold, rather than buy cow use milk buy cow then sell for 1 you get an extra gold? Unless I'm wrong 😅
Bat is overrated, change my mind. I think it's better to super scale a couple of huge units and if your units are bigger than your opponents then you're gonna kill them in one hit anyway so bat does nothing and provides no scaling. It's only really good if it's LVL 2-3 in the late game when people have melon armour
Just scale the bat as a big unit or have the bat as a 5th trash unit whose effect is good without needing investment. Bat doesn’t need stats to use its effect, and it isn’t allergic to getting stats from dragon/t-rex or whatever. Like seriously, it’s that simple. Garlic armor and melon armor are both really really good and weak overrides it, which means bat is good in midgame for potentially sniping their juggernaut and late game for shredding protective food to turn draws into wins Weak is just really good
How does a winless run happen? Well... I was watching your series from the beginning (the game doesnt work on my PC , god knows why...) and I decided to try It yesterday on my mobile... I got my cheeks clapped so hard, Holy crap I did not imagined it was even possible....
NL's runs are starting to feel like mine now. Maybe it was just because of backlog that I felt like I was doing so much worse with the same plays. That's what I'm going to tell myself at least.
The amount of games that went winless in a row is just as impressive as a 10 wins
NL has reached peak performance when he is considering restarting for a better name.
You piece.
@@nathanjohnson2197 perfectly utilized the word
@@drdoublec7642 indeed, the phrase itself is a masterpiece. You piece
@@nathanjohnson2197 😂😂😂
@@nathanjohnson2197 I'm assuming your handle is a reference to The Jerk and recognizing you as a person of taste. (tips hat)
First run was unbelievable, NL had a good team and still lost 4 in a row
Literal worst possible ant rng 3 games in a row
Yeah, that was painful
Glad to see it happens to other people. Sometimes I swear the bats and ants are programmed to fuck you over.
Ants are just OP, its wild
You piece.
The first run was clearly cursed due to the lack of good name options.
You piece.
This series has easily become part of my daily routine, perfect thing to watch during work breaks
You piece.
Him me him him me
Same, after workouts or during breaks, or while I eat and wake up. Its so great man
I need me a Super Auto Pets mod that replaces the default sounds with "Buy Me", "Freeze Me"
Yes!
"Roll Me", on win "let's go!" And on loss "you piece"
Super Auto Pets has replaced my obsession with Blue Hyena Crash Figuring #29/65 Holding a Wumpa Fruit
This sounds more like bargaining / denial than anything else. You're grieving brother
I need an NL jersey when I watch these. I feel so pumped when he wins, it's like watching the best sports team play the best sport.
FINALMENTE HUEVITO DE MI CORAZÓN POGGIN' OUT OF MY CABEZA RN
Cheers to that, brother
Absolutely.
So true bestie!
You already know the vibes
Ditto
I’m glad to see NL’s experience with this game is finally mirroring mine 😂 the meta is just so fucked!
You piece.
I'm glad that I can still run weird builds and whoop these meta builds.
@@measlesplease1266 Every once in a while I have a build that makes me laugh and undercuts the meta but if I actually put my heart behind a team I know I’m destined for sadness
I think you meant beta, sorry that was a bad joke, trying to farm some dopamine :)
Same.
Jesus christ that first game hurts
First game has been my experience with SAP lately; the community is getting too optimal.
Yeah, the game isn't robust enough to have a good meta, so once people optimize, it becomes less fun.
Yeah today I finally gave up. I’m demoting myself from player/viewer to just viewer 😭. Game autochoosing perfect teams against me is just too strong…
You piece.
The meta is fine. Just reorder your teams. People are used to strongest unit in the front.
@@FrostyFyre I’m in the same place, frankly. Just not enough variance for things to stay fun. I think the biggest limiter is the thing NL points out about people resetting. I’m having a hard time getting to round 3 without at least one loss, and I’m not running bad teams … it’s wack.
Kinda of addicted to watching you play this game now.
NL last week : haha two win Marties 🤡
NL this week: we fought hard for those 2 wins after a series of devastating blowouts 🤓
Not very useful information egglord, but I got a level 3 skunk last night. Reducing a 50/50 to a 50/1 really does makes your gourd overfloweth with pog
Butterflies also copy the stats of _healthiest_ friends, so it can make them target something that isn't their 50/50 carry. (They're changing this to copy from the friend with most combined attack and health though)
@@miguel7888 I thought they were changing it to copy the friend with the highest attack out of the ones with highest health. There were a lot of cases of them copying a 30/50 instead of a 50/50 because thats the one the algorithm has seen first
try running that with tiger and your gourd wouldn't be able to handle those levels of pogicity.
Seeing this man go winless from turn one makes me feel better about getting utterly demolished
Thanks to NL (and ultimately to Dan) I've taken to using "You piece" multiple times in everyday use.
Man the first run shows just how sweaty this game has become.. that squad was pretty good
12:30 gotta be the fucking funniest thing ever. My man rolled into a rotten fruit: no juice, no squeeze, just pain
Fucking wheezing
I love it when NL comes up with his own names for things in games - red beetle was great, and I like how he often says ram instead of sheep
eight losses in a row is too funny
NL spotting the attempted SQL injection sent me into the freaking stratosphere
I love how he rants about people using good builds and then proceeds to build the same build he used 7 episodes in a row 😂 and I will still enjoy squeezing and juicing
Good names, good games . First run was dead from the start!
2 Scampis, thats a lot for 1 man. Second run was dead from the start.
NL doesn’t reroll runs, he’s would rather take 0-4 record than restart.
Extremely based egghead
Edit: holy Nl is going to turn into the joker
homagawd
12:03 "What happened?" he asks, with 2/5 slots occupied by shrimp
Petition for Milk Me to join the pantheon of "X me" Pog phrases that this series has given us
That first game was a shinning example of team name meta
Finally got my first 10 win game last night, I hope NL is proud of me
Hell yes brother first of many
You piece.
just in case you were wondering ladybug is actually the colloquial name for a family of beetles, so they are in fact red beetles
There is a youtuber who does the duck strategy and his win rate is insane. I am pretty sure this is what has screwed with the game meta.
Roll shop vigorously to get 5 ducks, if you lose a couple rounds that's fine. Combine ducks to get a lvl 2 duck and a tier 3 unit in shop. Roll through the shop and freeze a few good pets, don't worry about too much about spending on rolls since you'll be getting +5 gold when you sell the ducks. When you sell, everything gets +4+4 and if you get a good tier 3 you'll have a significant advantage in mid game rounds. Usually can get 6 or 7 wins.
Ducks cannot be overlooked. The duck might have similar importance to Dodo in the long run.
I've been watching your videos so much that I'm inside your head. I'm calling your moves before you make them. You got me pogged out of my gourd
NL, the lobster is a can of food, but in animal form. Anything you summon out of battle (i.e. when pivoting to a better tier) gets buffed. Anything summoned in battle does not get buffed.
(38:13) how does the ordering work with bats applying weakness to butterflies.
NL's caterpillar got weakened and then turned into butterfly removing the effect.
But the opponent turned first and then morphed! keeping the effect!
next level plays?
The abilities resolve from the highest attack unit to the lowest, NL's bat had less attack than the enemies catterpillar, so it weakened it after it transformed
Egg yelling at lobsters is a number 1.
12:35 my exact mood towards this game now
33:57 im crying 🤣
Wait what this is from an hour ago? How much SAP content is this madman uploading, I'm losing my mind!!
Good name is like 90% of the early game strats
This one was all over the place, they win, they win, we win. Him, me, him, him, me
he finally learns the power of the ladybug, and my pogs are immeasurable.
The win, was unreal. Ideal team
This game is brilliant but it really does need a penalty for repeatedly abandoning runs, so many people just sit there and manipulate a perfect first shop now.
i’m a simple man i check for NL content i see SAP i watch
That first run was cruel and unusual.
I think Lobster buffs the animal you bought before battle. Its used so that if you buy a duplicate it gets a buff before you combine thus giving the combined animal +2+2 perminently?
I'm a simple man, I hear "it shoots in spurts" and I pog
If you abandon a queue, one of your five slots should be occupied by a 1/1 sloth for the remainder of your next game.
Its pessimistic af, but 3 minutes in seeing NL go 0/3 inspired me to keep plaing
dude i just got my first 10 win with a disgusting turkey fly combo (which ran a dog at the front) to see NL uploaded another ep i am so pogged right now holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
NL I don't know if it's a cool idea but maybe for those who leave on first round when they star another they have to fight a 2nd round team as a punish. What do you think?.
Cheers!
PD: sorry for my bad English.
Dudes on full tilt today XD got me poggin
Eyyy finally some respect for the swan and it pays off
That first set was glorious.
Being kicked from the queue is too large of a punishment, instead there should be a point system that removes a rank point for each loss/abandon while giving you a rank point for winning, if you get 5 rank points you get bumped up a rank tier and get a bundle of shop points as an incentive, the higher the tier completed the bigger the point bundle.
I think his complaints are overblown. Competition is just getting better.
@@gothenmosph5151 no💀reseting=/=skill
@gothen nah there are literally people restarting to get a good shop and then playing it optimally to cheese midgame.
This is the only game where I wouldn't mind an ELO/rank system. It's actually fun to do your best with what the game gives you.
@@measlesplease1266 but a shop only gets so optimal in the first round, what's the big meta here? Resetting until you get a few fishes? Or an ant and two beetles? I suppose you can manipulate rng your first round but it's just luck and skill from there on out.
And I have a hard time believing a ranking system wouldn't make competition even harder
@@gothenmosph5151 for context one play is to reset for 5 ducks. Sell all for juiced up shop. Ive had an all duck shop before and it's nasty especially if you time a tier up animal
i've played too much super auto pets, as soon as NL' s battle is over I click the screen out of habit and accidentally pause the video. done it 4 times already and im half way through the video
Run 2, last turn, I believe the play was pill ant, buy lobster, sell shrimp, buy better stat animal/shrimp.
Don't know if it would have saved the run with the team you went against, but more stats is more optimal. Lost too many stats from selling dromedary and ignoring lobster
Probably buy caterpillar with lobster, instead of shrimp, bc that gets the most stats and has long-term potential
Doing the math, it would have been a draw as you lost by 4 hp, and the caterpillar and shrimp with lobster play gives you +5 attack (shop shrimp has 1 more than roster shrimp)
Unpopular opinion but NL is right about ladybugs being red beetles - they are indeed beetles and not true bugs
I won a 0-3 run today and my gourd was filled with pogs
Apple on Worm not worth? 3g +3/+3 not worth? When the only other food options you can guarantee are chocolate and pears? And 60% of Sashimi?
Good wins anyway :)
Still haven't won. I've been playing for days. Got to 9 wins ONCE and was ANNIHILATED by a fkn JUICED UP WORM
I used to abandon games when I was down to a single life, then realized I was missing out on some hard earned 5 whole points and now I have 20 points. But in all seriousness I never restart to get a good team in the beginning, that's a cheesy way about it
As they say a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush
Can't wait for the sweaty plays
Is this a repost?
what is "i am become back my money"? i've always wondered lol
It is from a hilarious bait tweet sent at Edmund McMillen after The Binding of Isaac Repentance's release.
19:05 Selfish pet owners be like.
So, I know it's weird, but I'm wondering, if NL's going to go with the scaling Dinosaurs, why not just get as many separate Dinosaurs as you can? Like a Level 2 Dinosaur gives everything else +4/+4. But if instead you have 3 level 1 Dinosaurs everything else gets +6/+6 and the Dinosaurs get +4/+4. So while a level 2 dinosaur gives 16/16 worth of stats every turn, 3 level 1 dinosaurs give 24/24 worth of stats each turn and the dinosaurs are actually scaling with everything else now too. Oh an it's not like the Dinosaurs start of that small either. I mean, 13/8 isn't really something to scoff at.
by the time you're getting t-rexs consistently, in battle synergies start mattering again.
ranked SAP? I'm playing 5 hours a day no doubt.
Description: October 21th. Looking out for ya
Oh no! He has become the jokaire
~30:45 "I don't even know what's happening here" honestly up until that run I was wondering why you're so anti Ladybug/'red beetle' ...and then you start running one and kick some ass!
I would have run it alongside the worm, at least it will temporary pump on feeding the worm
Also: you don't have to sell cow, buying another on top of it will still give you milk
But if you sell cow, get 1 gold, buy cow sell cow get 1 gold, rather than buy cow use milk buy cow then sell for 1 you get an extra gold? Unless I'm wrong 😅
First run ended against FrostPrime 😯
Ok, but aren't ladybugs beetles tho?
okay i understand now what he meant by saying the elo is insanely high right now, i couldnt get to 5 wins before losing 3 straight .-.
Too bad our gorilla won't live.
But, then again, who does?
Bat is overrated, change my mind. I think it's better to super scale a couple of huge units and if your units are bigger than your opponents then you're gonna kill them in one hit anyway so bat does nothing and provides no scaling. It's only really good if it's LVL 2-3 in the late game when people have melon armour
Just scale the bat as a big unit or have the bat as a 5th trash unit whose effect is good without needing investment. Bat doesn’t need stats to use its effect, and it isn’t allergic to getting stats from dragon/t-rex or whatever.
Like seriously, it’s that simple. Garlic armor and melon armor are both really really good and weak overrides it, which means bat is good in midgame for potentially sniping their juggernaut and late game for shredding protective food to turn draws into wins
Weak is just really good
ultimately, basically, you can't one-shot kill anything with more than thirty health if it has melon armor.
Isn’t a ladybird just a better worm? But surely they’d make a good combo for scaling
No the ladybird’s buffs are temporary
I'm always confused by how highly NL rates horse in this game.
How does a winless run happen? Well... I was watching your series from the beginning (the game doesnt work on my PC , god knows why...) and I decided to try It yesterday on my mobile... I got my cheeks clapped so hard, Holy crap I did not imagined it was even possible....
i know the feel bro, im so bad at this game
Abandoning a game should at least result in a point penalty. Maybe 10 points on an abandon?
He lost the 3rd time once he reordered his team
Buying food after buying pets with beetle out is pretty bad
He loves worm but hates cat
RANKED MODE 100% NO DOUBT IN MY MIND BOO WE WOULDA BEEN STATE CHAMPIONS
Ah yes the 21th of October
I had 4 fish and 5 otters on my second game 😂
Turtle power!
We need a roblox streamer to play so we can get some wins now and again
Yes.. let the hate flow through you
Begging through text for the location of a SINGLE win
You love to see some gorilla play
38:20
The fish is the best pet, tell me I'm wrong, because I am
Why do you have 4 hearts and I have ten hearts
first run R I P
Poggers
Doubticity is out of control
NL's runs are starting to feel like mine now. Maybe it was just because of backlog that I felt like I was doing so much worse with the same plays.
That's what I'm going to tell myself at least.
Fartpog.