this is ok for beginners , more advanced players do pronate , the slice is created with the contact point on the ball, but you need to still pronate if you want more pace
🤗You helped me A lot man with my Game all the small adjustments i made in getting my game to the level i am at now i owe it to You No wonder they says “The best overall coach in the World” 😍🥰
Merci pour ces videos, meme si il faut surtout pratiquer pour progresser, capter les fondamentaux c’est toujours rejouissant . Bravo pour votre passion de la transmission.
Patrick, I love your videos. I don't know if its too much to ask but some slow mo and a split screen to show before / mistakes and after it would me good. Sometimes when you say, "its much better" i can't really see it Keep up the great work!
Bonjour Patrick, l’équipe, Merci pour cette vidéo très instructive. J’ai une question : pourquoi corriger le coude à la fin de la séance après le slice, plutôt qu’au début ? Est-ce qu’il y a une raison à cela ? Merci pour la réponse. Et bonne continuation
For this elbow conditioning, it may be helpful to use a whip analogy and see if they understand. Females tend to be able to imagine flowing movements easily, this analogy may have helped her really grasp the concept.
at 2.40min Patrick says it's a very good first serve. I think there is something that can be improved if I just look at the position of non dominant arm, the position of the racket and the elbow of the dominant arm in the trophyphase. I don't really understand why he starts with the slice service instead of tackling the main problem of her serve. He only pays attention to it after 9.40 minutes!
I taught a Russian guy how to serve by doing this throw against the fence technique cause he never threw a ball and hit his serve with a stiff straight arm. I was tired of seeing it so I told him I'm gonna teach you to throw then put a racket in your hand. It worked after about 25-30 reps as I got him to loosen up and bend his arm 90° then drop into a trophy position or semi trophy. It clicked. I was happy and he was happy. I told him to throw about 50 balls a day at a wall or his garage till he got the feel. Then come to the court and hit a bucket or two of balls bout 4 or 5 times a week.
Often misconception is pronation in serve. All 3 serve motions have pronation but slice serve have less degree of pronation. If you don't pronate with continental grip, you WILL hit the edge of the racket frame. Hope this help.
Hi Patrick, do we need to pronate the racquet? If I saw correctly, I think there was no pronation. I'm confused because most coaches tell me I need to pronate. Thing is I find it hard to pronate and still get the slice to the left, so I don't do pronate - which seems to be just like what you are doing in this video.
Hi, you are right - there is no pronation in this service. Patrick shows the serve for AMATEURS. Before contact point with the ball, racquet already is PARALLEL the net, next moment racquet is moving to right and carves the ball looks like from "12 to 3 hours" on clock circle. To make serve stronger SPORTSMEN use pronation. In this case racquet is moving and starts contact with the ball in position PERPENDICULAR the net. During the contact the ball (contact time is about 20 - 60 msec) pronation insures slice and power. PS - the same movement SPORTSMEN use for kick serve, but due to bended "to back and down" position of body, racquet is moving more to UP. Regards. Igor.
where do i toss the ball? In your different video, you said toss the ball in the same location as you hit a flat serve, but here the location seems to be a little rightward. which is right?
Yes, the main issue was the wrong throwing motion: the girl didn’t move her elbow forward before the rest of the arm, even when throwing the ball with her hand. Patrick corrected that towards the end. Nice lesson!
Well done Patrick! Rule number 1: Find the people, who pay. You can teach what you want and have a fun! ) Girl, just try to toss the ball 2 o'clock, not 12. So, you will get the right angle (inside out) automatically. I teach it my students for 1,70 Euro/Hour. There is no magic:)
Exactly my thoughts. The lady has a beautiful flat serve, all he has to do is to tell her to pronate less or delay the pronation a little so the racket meets the ball with an angle (instead of flat on). But he told her to “carve the ball”, which is wrong and an outdated teaching.
@@bournejason66 yup. Quite often he just repeats the same tired, incorrect phrases used in the 1960's and 70's. There is no denying his method and attitude are fantastic, but sometimes the content is not only lacking, but wrong.
I think it's more evident that he has a hard time with players who don't have an aptitude for athleticism or understand the basic concepts of movement in the game.
Patrick's teaching and his love for the game are amazing. Learned a lot from him. He didn't say No for once.
this is ok for beginners , more advanced players do pronate , the slice is created with the contact point on the ball, but you need to still pronate if you want more pace
Nice lesson! Can we have the same for the kick please? For a reason I ignore, people teach slice serves a lot more than kick on TH-cam....
🤗You helped me A lot man with my Game all the small adjustments i made in getting my game to the level i am at now i owe it to You No wonder they says “The best overall coach in the World” 😍🥰
Thanks Patrick Mouratoglou!! Your lessons are amazing man!
Thanks love these tips, really improve my son’s serve!!
Merci pour ces videos, meme si il faut surtout pratiquer pour progresser, capter les fondamentaux c’est toujours rejouissant . Bravo pour votre passion de la transmission.
Patrick, I love your videos. I don't know if its too much to ask but some slow mo and a split screen to show before / mistakes and after it would me good.
Sometimes when you say, "its much better" i can't really see it
Keep up the great work!
You can’t see it because it isn’t 😳
Such a good lesson!
Great video. Thank you, Patrick!!!
Bonjour Patrick, l’équipe, Merci pour cette vidéo très instructive.
J’ai une question : pourquoi corriger le coude à la fin de la séance après le slice, plutôt qu’au début ? Est-ce qu’il y a une raison à cela ? Merci pour la réponse. Et bonne continuation
Excellente video pédago. J'adore le décorticage du mouvement !
New drinking games. .every time Patrick says ohh la la drink 🍻
Great coach!
Amazing tip about the elbow
Great observation. It does look a bit low doesn't it
For this elbow conditioning, it may be helpful to use a whip analogy and see if they understand. Females tend to be able to imagine flowing movements easily, this analogy may have helped her really grasp the concept.
at 2.40min Patrick says it's a very good first serve. I think there is something that can be improved if I just look at the position of non dominant arm, the position of the racket and the elbow of the dominant arm in the trophyphase.
I don't really understand why he starts with the slice service instead of tackling the main problem of her serve. He only pays attention to it after 9.40 minutes!
Such a great lesson, has helped me improve. One question, where do you aim on the ad side?
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I taught a Russian guy how to serve by doing this throw against the fence technique cause he never threw a ball and hit his serve with a stiff straight arm. I was tired of seeing it so I told him I'm gonna teach you to throw then put a racket in your hand. It worked after about 25-30 reps as I got him to loosen up and bend his arm 90° then drop into a trophy position or semi trophy. It clicked. I was happy and he was happy. I told him to throw about 50 balls a day at a wall or his garage till he got the feel. Then come to the court and hit a bucket or two of balls bout 4 or 5 times a week.
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Patrick is telling her to carve around (supinate) and not to pronate??!!
Often misconception is pronation in serve. All 3 serve motions have pronation but slice serve have less degree of pronation. If you don't pronate with continental grip, you WILL hit the edge of the racket frame. Hope this help.
Just a kind reminder, using a stabilizer may help with smooth image.
J'admire sa patience 😄
First!!! Big fan Patrick!
She does it better with the racquet than the hand
Hi Patrick, do we need to pronate the racquet? If I saw correctly, I think there was no pronation. I'm confused because most coaches tell me I need to pronate. Thing is I find it hard to pronate and still get the slice to the left, so I don't do pronate - which seems to be just like what you are doing in this video.
Hi, you are right - there is no pronation in this service. Patrick shows the serve for AMATEURS. Before contact point with the ball, racquet already is PARALLEL the net, next moment racquet is moving to right and carves the ball looks like from "12 to 3 hours" on clock circle. To make serve stronger SPORTSMEN use pronation. In this case racquet is moving and starts contact with the ball in position PERPENDICULAR the net. During the contact the ball (contact time is about 20 - 60 msec) pronation insures slice and power. PS - the same movement SPORTSMEN use for kick serve, but due to bended "to back and down" position of body, racquet is moving more to UP. Regards. Igor.
So this technique is to hit the slice without pronation, right? Or even perhaps a bit of supination?
Hi, you are showing the serve only on deuce side. Could you show it on ad side too, please?
do you pronate on this serve?
On my slice serve I sometime "frame" the ball instead of hitting the strings , are there any tips or adjustments I should be looking at ?
Not a coach here. But you might want to focus on “hitting through the ball” instead of focusing on brushing the ball.
@@lchristophor3107 cheers thanks, I'll give it a try👍
where do i toss the ball? In your different video, you said toss the ball in the same location as you hit a flat serve, but here the location seems to be a little rightward. which is right?
Right is easier to slice it, but if you can do it central the serve is harder to read.
Patrick, while Throwing Arm should be more straight to get more power.
No pronation on the slice?
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Took him 10 minutes but he got to the problem in the end. better late than not at all.
Yes, the main issue was the wrong throwing motion: the girl didn’t move her elbow forward before the rest of the arm, even when throwing the ball with her hand. Patrick corrected that towards the end. Nice lesson!
And from the other side?????
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Well done Patrick! Rule number 1: Find the people, who pay. You can teach what you want and have a fun! ) Girl, just try to toss the ball 2 o'clock, not 12. So, you will get the right angle (inside out) automatically. I teach it my students for 1,70 Euro/Hour. There is no magic:)
Why toss at 2. Your opponent knows what is coming. Toss in the same place each time (not for kick) use your degree of pronation to direct the ball.
did she pay $1875 for this 15 mins lesson?
Who is she? Is she training to go pro?
Can we get the net worth of whoever her dad is?
Waste of 5,000 euro. She did not learn anything. Patrick has infinite patience. I guess he is getting paid regardless
Seriously, this is the worst coaching ever!
Patrick Mortuglue has no idea how to teach tennis .. what a con artist.
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Exactly my thoughts. The lady has a beautiful flat serve, all he has to do is to tell her to pronate less or delay the pronation a little so the racket meets the ball with an angle (instead of flat on). But he told her to “carve the ball”, which is wrong and an outdated teaching.
@@bournejason66 yup. Quite often he just repeats the same tired, incorrect phrases used in the 1960's and 70's. There is no denying his method and attitude are fantastic, but sometimes the content is not only lacking, but wrong.
I think it's more evident that he has a hard time with players who don't have an aptitude for athleticism or understand the basic concepts of movement in the game.