I have a lot of tennis videos in my feed but for a few years now you are the best at explaining and reasoning. I keep getting bits of new information almost in all videos! Thank you and keep these videos coming. I appreciate them hugely!
you just solved my pronation question on the slice serve, thank you so much. i was looking everywhere for an answer to that question. because i am carving around the ball and finish like you mentioned with the open racket, because it simply looks like that if you watch the pros. now i understand how to pronate and still end with the open racket. or at least i will try it. thank you!
Another fantastic video! I like to mention the importance of how you are turned away from the target to allow the ball to curve towards the target. To ‘hide’ the back shoulder and hip during the preparation.
Hi Thomas, I love watching your videos and have used many of them, I find the slice serve to be a rather contentious serve on TH-cam, some coaches say your carving the side of the ball and others say you are basically doing a flat serve with he same toss but opening the face more that way you get more speed . I love how you have explained the two schools of thought and confirmed that the carving is wrong ! The professions you have shown are great and I will have a go at them especially the pronation tip!
Thanks for the feedback! This also relates to another comment I answered - while the coach teaching "carving" might FEEL IT, it doesn't really happen on a good slice serve. That's why I like the drill #2 progressions because it leads players from an exaggerated hitting of the ball on the side to more real way of hitting a slice serve without overthinking or over-analyzing it. Best to teach through feel and not through complicated explanations.
Have done these drills daily for 6 days. Swinging racket like a weight produces more power. Priceless progressions. I start at the net, progress to the baseline and start all over again. I want to do this better! Thanks.
Thank you, I'm usually a counter style because I struggle with my serves. But this video was a very clear explanation of what I was doing wrong. I was holding the grip more towards the backhand side instead of continental. I also realized that I was opening up my shoulder too soon. You gave me confidence today to even go for my serve on the 2nd. 😂 This video will turn my weakness into a strength with hardworking. Thank you Master.
HI. I have bought a previous course and love it. My feedback on this particular video is that the mottled color of the court surface makes the ball almost invisible when it flys over the background of the court surface. Look at the video and try to track the ball - do you see how the court surface acts as a kind of camouflage? I love your approach to learning and wish you continued success. Is the slice video filmed at this location? this one with the odd colored court surface?
You mean the slice videos inside the Second Serve Mastery course? It's recorded on same courts but they with the older surface, here's an example video from that time: th-cam.com/video/anf4fFGl6RY/w-d-xo.html You will have no problem seeing the ball in the course because I did not have the topview footage yet, all footage is from behind or the side.
Just do that mini corrective drill that I mention at 9:09 every day for a few minutes and you'll soon feel better contact and more power on the ball even though you will be slicing the ball.
Well, what we visualize and what really happens are two very different things. Sure, you can visualize that you hit the ball at 3 o clock which would only be realistic when serving at a very sharp angle standing close to the net. It's what I show at the start of drill #2. But what really happens is that there is just a minute angle difference between the racket angle on the ball between a flat and a slice serve, you can see that in this video: th-cam.com/video/bhFrf_xA77o/w-d-xo.html
@@feeltennis thanks. I appreciate your slowmotion footage where I can see your racket face at contact. Good camera work. Strange - it is easier for me to get more power when I use a slight forehand grip. If I do so and I am leading with the edge I am generating more power (more flat at contact). Furthermore it is easier for me to pronate. Just a little bit like Boris Becker. Probably the only professional tennis player in modern times using a slight forehand grip (serve). To me it looks like he is pronating with his full underarm not just with his hand. So did Pete Sampras. Regards
It's a type of synthetic surface, like grass, with sand on it. It's very nice for free hitting and teaching but not ideal for playing points as you're not sure how well the shoe will grip the surface when you have to change directions quickly.
@feeltennis How do these courts play when heavily sanded like that? I played on one with almost no sand and it was miserable ball skidded and stayed low. I've read that more sand slows the ball down at least.
It is impossible not to pronate on any serve if you hold a Continental grip, the ball would go nowhere if you just sliced it. Check out these two videos for better understanding: th-cam.com/video/bhFrf_xA77o/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/JYFWQJCeN5c/w-d-xo.html
Hi Tomaz, Am I completely deceived? In the first half of the video, weren't you using the "peeling " method. I see that in slow motion. Even when you were instructing the gentleman indoor. I see that he was using the "peeling " method because he finished the stroke with his palm facing up at the end. Please explain. Thank you. Always love your instructions.
It depends what you interpret as peeling. If your sign for peeling is an open racket face at end, I mention in the video that pronation will happen before that and that the racket can still end up open. That does not mean peeling, Peeling means that the player wants to carve around the ball leading with the front edge of the racket curving inwards. If you do that, the ball will not fly. You need to pronate first to give the ball some push...
Best teaching on TH-cam...perfect amount of technical detail, most incremental progressions, most methodical.
Best YT coach 🐐
You are the BEST tennis instructor,,,thank you very very much,,,
I have a lot of tennis videos in my feed but for a few years now you are the best at explaining and reasoning. I keep getting bits of new information almost in all videos! Thank you and keep these videos coming. I appreciate them hugely!
Very much appreciated!
this is best Slice serve lesson for me.
Finally, the critical point. After 5 yrs. , You finally explain the most important point about the slice: avoiding the rim. Thank you
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11:07 this is the missing piece of many other videos on the slice serve, thanks coach.
Thanks!
Always a BIG Fan of your progression . How easily you explain .. Thanks agan !!
you just solved my pronation question on the slice serve, thank you so much. i was looking everywhere for an answer to that question. because i am carving around the ball and finish like you mentioned with the open racket, because it simply looks like that if you watch the pros. now i understand how to pronate and still end with the open racket. or at least i will try it. thank you!
Glad I could help! Check also this video that shows slice serve in super slow motion: th-cam.com/video/bhFrf_xA77o/w-d-xo.html
@@feeltennis just watched it! thanks for your answer
Another fantastic video!
I like to mention the importance of how you are turned away from the target to allow the ball to curve towards the target. To ‘hide’ the back shoulder and hip during the preparation.
Good points, thanks!
Amazing insights! I am adding "tennis lesson in slovenia with Tomaz" to my bucket list :)
Fantastic, just make sure you book me a year in advance! ;)
Thanks Tomas, great video
Hi Thomas, I love watching your videos and have used many of them, I find the slice serve to be a rather contentious serve on TH-cam, some coaches say your carving the side of the ball and others say you are basically doing a flat serve with he same toss but opening the face more that way you get more speed . I love how you have explained the two schools of thought and confirmed that the carving is wrong ! The professions you have shown are great and I will have a go at them especially the pronation tip!
Thanks for the feedback! This also relates to another comment I answered - while the coach teaching "carving" might FEEL IT, it doesn't really happen on a good slice serve. That's why I like the drill #2 progressions because it leads players from an exaggerated hitting of the ball on the side to more real way of hitting a slice serve without overthinking or over-analyzing it. Best to teach through feel and not through complicated explanations.
Have done these drills daily for 6 days. Swinging racket like a weight produces more power. Priceless progressions. I start at the net, progress to the baseline and start all over again. I want to do this better!
Thanks.
Wonderful, taking action is the key to improvement!
Very nice Volkl racket and court!
Thank you Tomaz for this excellent slice serve video with all the drills needed to master it. I will work on it following your instructions.
You're welcome, let me know how it goes...
Thanks!
This really worked well today for me. My slice serve was better than ever after an hour doing these progressions
Wonderful, thanks for taking the time and sharing your feedback!
Hi Thomas fantastic 👏 drills &I been waiting for this type of teaching for a long time.
Many thx
Prince
Welcome, glad that you like the drills! Come back and comment after you've been using them for a while!
Hi Tomaz , hope you’re well..?
Great progressions , even greater explanations especially for the power boost.
Thanks, doing fine, juggling on court coaching with making videos, never ending journey...
Thank you, I'm usually a counter style because I struggle with my serves. But this video was a very clear explanation of what I was doing wrong. I was holding the grip more towards the backhand side instead of continental. I also realized that I was opening up my shoulder too soon. You gave me confidence today to even go for my serve on the 2nd. 😂
This video will turn my weakness into a strength with hardworking. Thank you Master.
Very much appreciated, thanks for the feedback!
@feeltennis I want a slice serve like roger federer and this helps me make one step closer. Thank you Master!
This is just fantastic instruction.
HI. I have bought a previous course and love it. My feedback on this particular video is that the mottled color of the court surface makes the ball almost invisible when it flys over the background of the court surface. Look at the video and try to track the ball - do you see how the court surface acts as a kind of camouflage? I love your approach to learning and wish you continued success. Is the slice video filmed at this location? this one with the odd colored court surface?
You mean the slice videos inside the Second Serve Mastery course? It's recorded on same courts but they with the older surface, here's an example video from that time: th-cam.com/video/anf4fFGl6RY/w-d-xo.html You will have no problem seeing the ball in the course because I did not have the topview footage yet, all footage is from behind or the side.
Well-explained!
Thanks guru , U are best coach for me about SERVE.
Very much appreciated!
Excellent lesson coach thank you
This video will help since I do carve around the ball.
Just do that mini corrective drill that I mention at 9:09 every day for a few minutes and you'll soon feel better contact and more power on the ball even though you will be slicing the ball.
Very good video and instruction. Nice tennis courts, interesting colors though (not solid colors like usual)
Great Video. Do you hit the ball at. 2, 3 or 4 o clock? To me it looks like something between 3 and 4 a clock. Regards
Well, what we visualize and what really happens are two very different things. Sure, you can visualize that you hit the ball at 3 o clock which would only be realistic when serving at a very sharp angle standing close to the net. It's what I show at the start of drill #2. But what really happens is that there is just a minute angle difference between the racket angle on the ball between a flat and a slice serve, you can see that in this video: th-cam.com/video/bhFrf_xA77o/w-d-xo.html
@@feeltennis thanks. I appreciate your slowmotion footage where I can see your racket face at contact. Good camera work. Strange - it is easier for me to get more power when I use a slight forehand grip. If I do so and I am leading with the edge I am generating more power (more flat at contact). Furthermore it is easier for me to pronate. Just a little bit like Boris Becker. Probably the only professional tennis player in modern times using a slight forehand grip (serve). To me it looks like he is pronating with his full underarm not just with his hand. So did Pete Sampras. Regards
Thanks coach!
good stuff
Fantastic!!! Thank you!!!
Glad you liked it!
Aula muito boa!!
Absolutely describes my slice 😂
ThNk you
Thanks❤
Hi Tomaž, thanks for the video. What kind of court are you playing on? Is it a type of clay or sand?
It's a type of synthetic surface, like grass, with sand on it. It's very nice for free hitting and teaching but not ideal for playing points as you're not sure how well the shoe will grip the surface when you have to change directions quickly.
Is the outdoor court synthetic grass topped with sand ?
Yes
@feeltennis How do these courts play when heavily sanded like that? I played on one with almost no sand and it was miserable ball skidded and stayed low. I've read that more sand slows the ball down at least.
@@TheDmonet They are very nice for teaching since they are soft to move and ball bounce is not high. For playing points not so good...
Best slice I ever saw in the early 80s: Peter Rennert.
You are pronating when you get to the baseline, yes?
Nice
so you don't pronate on slice? just hit it straight?
It is impossible not to pronate on any serve if you hold a Continental grip, the ball would go nowhere if you just sliced it. Check out these two videos for better understanding: th-cam.com/video/bhFrf_xA77o/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/JYFWQJCeN5c/w-d-xo.html
@@feeltennis thanks. I made the comment a little too early into the video
Hi Tomaz,
Am I completely deceived? In the first half of the video, weren't you using the "peeling " method. I see that in slow motion. Even when you were instructing the gentleman indoor. I see that he was using the "peeling " method because he finished the stroke with his palm facing up at the end.
Please explain. Thank you. Always love your instructions.
It depends what you interpret as peeling. If your sign for peeling is an open racket face at end, I mention in the video that pronation will happen before that and that the racket can still end up open. That does not mean peeling, Peeling means that the player wants to carve around the ball leading with the front edge of the racket curving inwards. If you do that, the ball will not fly. You need to pronate first to give the ball some push...
Hi Tomaz,
I am sorry that I missed that part of the explanation in the video. Thank you for explaining that to me again.
Why is the court this color?
Super
What is happening with this court? Why is it all kinda white?
second!!!
First