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Gold / item buying is going crazy on anniversary already. So many bought warriors with every single epic boe, devilsaur set, and epic mounts. So many full raids already with lionheart helms and edge masters. The level of gold buying and rushing is so much higher than in 2019. Games gone
Does these numbers include what tasks different classes do in the raid? If you only stand and pummel a boss you'll probably do more damage then doing kiting/tranq duty or the like
@ Elemental shaman have the literal best scaling with SP in all of vanilla. Lightning Bolt has an 85% coefficient (same as Shadowbolt), but only a 2 second cast time. It’s not surprise why shaman are blowing warlocks out of the water.
@@benjnorris57 , it's not just about the coefficients of Lightning Bolt, even if it and Chain Lightning have good coefficients. First, your other abilities like Shocks or especially things like Searing Totem have very low coefficients and already don't do a ton of damage so they barely scale at all (so not much of a bonus to have debuff cap raised, and much more noticeable in TBC and esp Wrath when you get better mana efficiency). Second, mana is prohibitive, meaning you have to downrank Lightning Bolt a lot to keep going, where something like a Warlock can just life tap, mages have evocation, etc. This is by far the largest problem they face and why their damage is so low overall. The longer a fight goes, the worse your damage is comparatively with the upside is the faster the fight the better. In fights over 2 and a half min, you will prioritize Int over spell Crit. Then if you look at the baseline damage for something like Fireball vs Lightning Bolt it just flat out does MORE damage, let alone it is 3.5/3.5 = 100% coefficient (they get noting from the dot but they don't need it lol). Many bosses have nature resistance, and Warlocks curse does not effect nature damage (you need resistance to counter). That is actually a big problem that isn't mentioned a lot but that really adds up. Even worse, you don't have another school of magic to use besides that. I would argue though that since a class like Warlock does so much threat and has to throttle, that pairing four Warlocks with an Ele using Tranquil air would yield more damage overall to the raid since they could do 100% output. Just a thought though... either way stock up on mana pots/runes and have fun!
@@naejimba 0 bosses have nature resistance except Viscidus. If you think they do, you played a lot of private servers that incorrectly gave bosses NR that they do not have on Blizzard servers. Hard to take anything you say at face value when you are parroting incorrect information.
You 100% will have to use MCP, wear Wolfhead Helm, and powershift with Furor if you want to complete. It's an unfortunate fact for Classic wow for cats. And even after all of that, you'll do way less damage than a rogue.
the game being 90% warriors is the only downside of classic. I'm a healer so it doesn't really impact me but joining raids and seeing 18 warriors is just so lame.
I don't think there's a point in making these videos, we already know the exact ranks. People already played this version on 2004, 2019 and multiple fresh servers
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The fact that people were complaining so hard in SoD about a 10-20% dps difference and went back to this is beyond me
They went back cuz they know where the server is going.
its beyond you? vanilla is good. sod is bad. people play vanilla. now you understand
Maybe is not the same people?
people play it only cuz tbc comes in a year so they are just getting prepared for it
@@mattlatham5670sod is vanilla but better lol
The only reason people went to this is the promise of tbc.
I still raid in sod because it’s more fun
Your class and charachter is how you feel overall playing it. You don't owe anything to so called raid and damage meters.
Gold / item buying is going crazy on anniversary already. So many bought warriors with every single epic boe, devilsaur set, and epic mounts. So many full raids already with lionheart helms and edge masters. The level of gold buying and rushing is so much higher than in 2019. Games gone
Meh, let them. I'm not going to rush or play with those people. Will stick with my guild and have some fun and not spend a load of extra money.
Can hunter sell dmt buffs after dire maul patch?
Does these numbers include what tasks different classes do in the raid? If you only stand and pummel a boss you'll probably do more damage then doing kiting/tranq duty or the like
Warriors and Rogues are top dps, again...what a "shock" who could have known. I mean game has only been out for 20 years 😱😂
Hi solheim, I wanna ask when dire maul launch at wow anniv, can hunter sell dmt buffs??
Shocking that the elemental shamans were right about how good they are.
Too bad DPS Shaman scale poorly until Cata D=
@ Elemental shaman have the literal best scaling with SP in all of vanilla. Lightning Bolt has an 85% coefficient (same as Shadowbolt), but only a 2 second cast time. It’s not surprise why shaman are blowing warlocks out of the water.
@@benjnorris57 , it's not just about the coefficients of Lightning Bolt, even if it and Chain Lightning have good coefficients. First, your other abilities like Shocks or especially things like Searing Totem have very low coefficients and already don't do a ton of damage so they barely scale at all (so not much of a bonus to have debuff cap raised, and much more noticeable in TBC and esp Wrath when you get better mana efficiency). Second, mana is prohibitive, meaning you have to downrank Lightning Bolt a lot to keep going, where something like a Warlock can just life tap, mages have evocation, etc. This is by far the largest problem they face and why their damage is so low overall. The longer a fight goes, the worse your damage is comparatively with the upside is the faster the fight the better. In fights over 2 and a half min, you will prioritize Int over spell Crit.
Then if you look at the baseline damage for something like Fireball vs Lightning Bolt it just flat out does MORE damage, let alone it is 3.5/3.5 = 100% coefficient (they get noting from the dot but they don't need it lol). Many bosses have nature resistance, and Warlocks curse does not effect nature damage (you need resistance to counter). That is actually a big problem that isn't mentioned a lot but that really adds up. Even worse, you don't have another school of magic to use besides that. I would argue though that since a class like Warlock does so much threat and has to throttle, that pairing four Warlocks with an Ele using Tranquil air would yield more damage overall to the raid since they could do 100% output. Just a thought though... either way stock up on mana pots/runes and have fun!
@@naejimba 0 bosses have nature resistance except Viscidus. If you think they do, you played a lot of private servers that incorrectly gave bosses NR that they do not have on Blizzard servers.
Hard to take anything you say at face value when you are parroting incorrect information.
Warrior situation is absolutely broken and people thought SOD was bad...
Good. Warriors being good as dps makes sense. They suck at everything else. That’s the balance.
Are scorpions debatable on hunter's best raid pet due to their stacking poison DoT now? 🤔
TBC waiting room
are the Feral Druids all just using Pumblers? Or can you get decent numbers without farming it?
you cant
You 100% will have to use MCP, wear Wolfhead Helm, and powershift with Furor if you want to complete. It's an unfortunate fact for Classic wow for cats. And even after all of that, you'll do way less damage than a rogue.
Warlocks being low is not surprising bro they need spell hit
Dang so I guess I need to keep leveling my shaman lol or might even look at feral dps now, but I will be more pvping
the game being 90% warriors is the only downside of classic. I'm a healer so it doesn't really impact me but joining raids and seeing 18 warriors is just so lame.
Find a guild that doesnt do that then?
Wow thought warlocks would be higher, since they can freely use their dots due to no debuff limit.
they'll still have to use their curses to buff warriors
They’re banishing instead of DPS
i never played classic only sod i didn't even watch the video automatically knew warriors were at the top
Why is classic TH-camrs acting like this fresh is any different from any other fresh? This game is solved already bro
Chad Warrior's are so back
I don't think there's a point in making these videos, we already know the exact ranks. People already played this version on 2004, 2019 and multiple fresh servers
Bro why even make that video we know all this and spoiler nothing is gona change
The top classes are the bots...
ture :D
Yeah base vanilla is cooked. Gold buying and gate keeping have ruined the adventure.
just means noone is playing warlocks
this looks so sad 🤣
why am I even play warlock lol
You won't regret having a 60 lock when tbc returns
Free tier gear and raid spots
You're right. You should reroll.
@@dasshaker2372 Ye rerolled on SOD