To me it looked like the car got shooked up from the uneven surface. In that case you would have no steer whatsoever. But then again we're all sitting sound and safe in front of our phones and computers, arguing about what a professional race driver could've done better :) Glad no one got hurt and that gravel trap definitely served its purpose!
@@djmadmax9486 My comment was more the general handling of the car as opposed to the incident itself. With the incident the bumps did unsettle him but it looked like he was just too quick for the corner.
We had back roads like that near me in the late 1970’s. By sheer luck I avoided putting my KH250 and then GS750 into the hedges and ditches that surrounded them. In the ensuing years I’ve not gained any more skill and certainly lost the bravery (or foolhardiness). Keep up the good work, it’s videos like these that make me realise I’ve got a first class degree in “watching” not “doing” 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Wow the comments section has really taken off here! Just to update everyone making assumptions on the issue. The car was running old tyres, we were due to put new ones on the next run and pushed too hard on these ones. The car used to run a basic front wing which added very little downforce, if you watch more recent videos it now has a much more aggressive carbon front wing. If you watch some of the onboards videos from the last 2 years you will see the car is now on rails everywhere we go. Thanks for watching and for the comments!
still no excuse - also it doesn't seem like you learned to drive that the track by heart in first place, although this is one of the first lessons every racer should have written in their brain and guts.
TH-cam algorithm strikes again. That looked like a lot of fun until the end. The back was stepping out and under steered horribly. I thought it was cold tires until I read your comment about old rubber. You did well to keep it under control and yeah, the car looks much better with proper tires!
you know, i love when theres a crash video and theres a plethora of people who think they're experts when realistically many probably dont race irl and/ or tune cars for maximum grip and laptimes
@@Thexdmattx you missed one important thing i tried to preach in my comment. thats the bloody reason im not saying "bla bla you could've done this you could've done that." because i know that i am not qualified to be giving out advice, to a person that has been doing this for years now.
That looks like a ton of fun, except for the end. Happens sometimes even if you do nothing wrong, and it always stinks. Total rush through the old stone houses!
*No,* genius, it doesn't happen when you "do nothing wrong," which is the same as *doing everything right.* Are you *that* desperate for people to like you???
@@gavinvalentino6002 some things are outside of your control, manufacturing defects, etc. Or do you blame yourself for running over a nail in the roadway? Touch grass, virgin.
Nothing wrong? 1) He didn't use the whole track on entry, so his speed was a bit too high vs his angle of approach and 2) He turned in too early and had to compensate, causing him to drift wide.
@@jonathangriffiths2499 No it looked like it was under steering in all the corners. Maybe it is a deliberate set up, I always preferred my cars to stick at the front with any looseness at the back.
Might be one and the same thing: understeer leading to the driver consistently turning in early to compensate. Actual crash was turning in way too early.
but in the end was it the tires+understeer or was it the bumps? My guess is it was the bumps in the road, because the tires were doing at least something up to that point, so it seems reductive to assume they lost grip completely out of nowhere
@@ozdunder You could even get to experience the noise and the smell although you might not like standing next to Graham Ashley Smith's Terrapin 50 years ago. It was so loud that the people working in Mike Wilson's double decker bus (used as a control centre when it was parked in the paddock next to where the driver went off) couldn't hear themselves speak. Happy days!
What is with the stearing left and right side? It not look synchron. He stear and the car dont turn correctly. With slicks it has to work mutch better 🤔
I have tremendous debt difficulties and my wifes and 8 kids really hate what I do for a living.. I door to door preach and sell rainbow vacuum cleaners and sometimes homemade whares.. but really I always have respected men that aren't scared to drive fast. My family is from Utah and I never could leave. The sex is great and a bicycle gets me places... one question though how much a sport car like this costs and does a racetrack sign you a waiver or can my lawyer determine that I was influenced to buy one or the track caused me to wreck in a lake. Or faulty equipment cause these thingy looks powersome... or if wife ride too?
Bad setup and/or worn out tires. This understeer is really painful to watch, also there's oversteer on exit making the car difficult to drive I assume.
Looked like you were fighting the car but pushing the limits and over cooked it like you said older tyres less grip at the vital point still think maybe alittle less gas and ease into that light right hand would of been better but you know more about your car and set up than me just hope there wasn’t too much damage buddy and your all ok
Need to slow down for the corners. If the car is understeering...you don't turn more. The driver is wearing out the front tires in order to slow the car down for corners. The excessive steering angle causes more tire wear, and more understeer, which led to the crash. Instead of scrubbing off speed with understeer, just slow down with the brakes and modulate throttle better through the corners. You dont go any faster with so much slip angle. Just wearing out tires for no reason. Maybe practice more in a sim first, learn some theory.
I'm no car set up expert but that amount of Oversteer every bend with Slicks on tells me something needs tweaking.. even when the tyres are up to temperature its still without any grip.. 🤔
Looks like heinous oversteer to me actually, and terribly high dampening on the suspension.. he was never going to make it through those long meanders.
Bro the tuning coils def need a down-spring and the engine dials need to be reheated. This guy totally should've known this and he would've made it through that turn fine. Gosh
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That's some horrific understeer.
To me it looked like the car got shooked up from the uneven surface. In that case you would have no steer whatsoever. But then again we're all sitting sound and safe in front of our phones and computers, arguing about what a professional race driver could've done better :)
Glad no one got hurt and that gravel trap definitely served its purpose!
@@djmadmax9486 My comment was more the general handling of the car as opposed to the incident itself. With the incident the bumps did unsettle him but it looked like he was just too quick for the corner.
Ohhh ohhh the pusher mannnn
I agree totally, car is pushing into and out of every single corner. Does not look confident at all
@@Jake-jo1iz Godamn
That gravel trap did its job!
I didn't know you were into racing. I enjoy your flight sim videos!
well... i think mostly the wooden palisade after the gravel and the grass
amazing channel btw!
Because the driver didnt do his.
I expected the car to dig in and barrel roll in the gravel.
We had back roads like that near me in the late 1970’s.
By sheer luck I avoided putting my KH250 and then GS750 into the hedges and ditches that surrounded them. In the ensuing years I’ve not gained any more skill and certainly lost the bravery (or foolhardiness).
Keep up the good work, it’s videos like these that make me realise I’ve got a first class degree in “watching” not “doing” 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Wow the comments section has really taken off here!
Just to update everyone making assumptions on the issue.
The car was running old tyres, we were due to put new ones on the next run and pushed too hard on these ones.
The car used to run a basic front wing which added very little downforce, if you watch more recent videos it now has a much more aggressive carbon front wing.
If you watch some of the onboards videos from the last 2 years you will see the car is now on rails everywhere we go.
Thanks for watching and for the comments!
Why would you use old tyres for a race though?
@@CHOPERUS23 this was practise
still no excuse - also it doesn't seem like you learned to drive that the track by heart in first place, although this is one of the first lessons every racer should have written in their brain and guts.
@@HangoverTelevision Okay buddy it’s just a TH-cam video let’s back it off…
@@HangoverTelevision Wow man, chill out, jesus.
Crazy understeer in that setup.
TH-cam algorithm strikes again.
That looked like a lot of fun until the end. The back was stepping out and under steered horribly. I thought it was cold tires until I read your comment about old rubber. You did well to keep it under control and yeah, the car looks much better with proper tires!
you know, i love when theres a crash video and theres a plethora of people who think they're experts when realistically many probably dont race irl and/ or tune cars for maximum grip and laptimes
Yes I’m completely new to this niche of Motorsport and it looks like this has its own sub section of armchair experts!
And your qualification is playing a simulator? HAHAHAHAHA
@@Thexdmattx you missed one important thing i tried to preach in my comment. thats the bloody reason im not saying "bla bla you could've done this you could've done that." because i know that i am not qualified to be giving out advice, to a person that has been doing this for years now.
@@Thexdmattx he never claimed to be qualified either
That looks like a ton of fun, except for the end. Happens sometimes even if you do nothing wrong, and it always stinks. Total rush through the old stone houses!
*No,* genius, it doesn't happen when you "do nothing wrong," which is the same as *doing everything right.*
Are you *that* desperate for people to like you???
@@gavinvalentino6002 some things are outside of your control, manufacturing defects, etc. Or do you blame yourself for running over a nail in the roadway? Touch grass, virgin.
@@tiebei2548 actually yes, i check the roadway for nails before i drive
Nails dont make you overspeed into a sweeper
Nothing wrong? 1) He didn't use the whole track on entry, so his speed was a bit too high vs his angle of approach and 2) He turned in too early and had to compensate, causing him to drift wide.
It looked like couple of the corners surprised you… Late entry. Always chasing the right line.
Surprised it made it that far to be honest
I'll start reading the armchair World Champion comments first...
But at least you're not making uninformed stupid comments.
It's so very easy when an observer
That car needed set up, the under steer is horrendous.
If you re referring to 0.41 , that’s not under steer but rather turning in to early for the apex
@@jonathangriffiths2499 No it looked like it was under steering in all the corners. Maybe it is a deliberate set up, I always preferred my cars to stick at the front with any looseness at the back.
Might be one and the same thing: understeer leading to the driver consistently turning in early to compensate. Actual crash was turning in way too early.
First thing I though too, terrible understeer. That car looks like a nightmare to control.
Bag driving skills is in fault here, the didn't break enough to transfer the light weight on the front
Settings arr good i think
And that, kids, is what we, in the underworld, call a blind corner.
Do not cut!
The algorithm has blessed you! This looks like so much fun, keep up the good work
thats a great route
What a beautiful location
Fantastic Track good and scary
Committed! Glad you're OK.
Looks like he got a little airborne off that corner and couldn't turn since his rubber left the road. At least the trap did its job.
that tiny patch of gravel actually helped a lot
Wow good job
So much fun
Cars lacking front end grip
And a decent driver...
cold race tires are absolutely useless
It looks like the car has masses of understeer or the tracking is way out... only an observation...
Amazing to read all the comments from the ex F1 champions in here!
😂😂
but in the end was it the tires+understeer or was it the bumps? My guess is it was the bumps in the road, because the tires were doing at least something up to that point, so it seems reductive to assume they lost grip completely out of nowhere
100% tyres.
We have been back since and no issues
Damn. Looks like you went off at one of the only spots with any run-off. Phew!
Don't touch my tires with your dirty gloves! :D
biiig undeeeer
Doing well …don’t give up
Imagine being the guy who gets to place the car at the starting line (I'm a newb, don't hate). Gets to be right there when every car launches.
it'd be so amazing seeing the variety in peoples builds
@@ozdunder You could even get to experience the noise and the smell although you might not like standing next to Graham Ashley Smith's Terrapin 50 years ago. It was so loud that the people working in Mike Wilson's double decker bus (used as a control centre when it was parked in the paddock next to where the driver went off) couldn't hear themselves speak. Happy days!
That was terminal understeer
The car is not understeering as much as it looks, the camera angle is causing it to look like it is
damn really?
American here, what kinda cars/karts are these? How much they cost?
damn I thought he was going to lose the rear end, he lost the front end!
holy mother of understeer
Love your driving skills, really. A couple of wrong lines, don't know why, car setup?
Not easy...brave guys.
Is it just me, or does that car have a lot of understeer?
scary stuff
What is with the stearing left and right side? It not look synchron. He stear and the car dont turn correctly. With slicks it has to work mutch better 🤔
We need more downforce on the front end Glad safe!!!!
Le proto il part en sous-virage dans tous les virages
Man you didn’t look comfortable driving that.
I have tremendous debt difficulties and my wifes and 8 kids really hate what I do for a living.. I door to door preach and sell rainbow vacuum cleaners and sometimes homemade whares.. but really I always have respected men that aren't scared to drive fast. My family is from Utah and I never could leave. The sex is great and a bicycle gets me places... one question though how much a sport car like this costs and does a racetrack sign you a waiver or can my lawyer determine that I was influenced to buy one or the track caused me to wreck in a lake. Or faulty equipment cause these thingy looks powersome... or if wife ride too?
It wasn't a big surprise the crash happened because of understeer
O me lo.parece a mi o está mal reglado ??
It looks weird when the car turns with it tires from that angle.
🤘💀
So.. what happened?
he crashed.
he crashed.
He made a video about it
Basically the run went well until you went fast.
Bro, let go of my tire!
What is the name of these kind of races
They are Hillclimbs 👍🏻
Burnt the toast
That had next to zero front end grip
mental
Daddy, I wanna go on that ride.
You completely misjudged that last corner
Good driver with poor tyres. The car dosent look set up right.
Loads of understeer I'd say - unless the camera angle is deceptive
Is that a GSXR engine ?
Yes it is 👍🏻
Tires were to hard?
That suspension geometry looks really weird and explains reason for high slip angles at the front
*Hey dork* it was old tires and mimimal downforce from a small front wing.
That's all.
Bad setup and/or worn out tires.
This understeer is really painful to watch, also there's oversteer on exit making the car difficult to drive I assume.
Looked like you were fighting the car but pushing the limits and over cooked it like you said older tyres less grip at the vital point still think maybe alittle less gas and ease into that light right hand would of been better but you know more about your car and set up than me just hope there wasn’t too much damage buddy and your all ok
Guy touches grass a half dozen times before he goes off
I'm sure amazon sells tyre warmers...
Banned from this sport
so.much.understeer.
Untidy from the start I'm afraid.
First time on that course I assume
Need to slow down for the corners. If the car is understeering...you don't turn more. The driver is wearing out the front tires in order to slow the car down for corners. The excessive steering angle causes more tire wear, and more understeer, which led to the crash. Instead of scrubbing off speed with understeer, just slow down with the brakes and modulate throttle better through the corners. You dont go any faster with so much slip angle. Just wearing out tires for no reason. Maybe practice more in a sim first, learn some theory.
trackmania irl
The bumps in the road unsettled it and caused the tyres to lose traction at the back
The track is silky smooth and the tarmac is fairly new...
The moon failed to guide your path along the track 😲😂
I'm no car set up expert but that amount of Oversteer every bend with Slicks on tells me something needs tweaking.. even when the tyres are up to temperature its still without any grip.. 🤔
I'm not an expert either - looked like masses of understeer to me. :D
you mean understeer... maybe it has no diff at the back
that track looked very narrow.
That's how they are in hillclimbing in UK.
Not really a crash, but still fun
yes it is a crash against a wooden palisade
Went exactly where he was looking…gotta be careful with fixating on points like that
Seems like my i30 has better grip.
Who in their right mind puts bollards on a race track?!
They are plastic, and fold flat when hit obviously.
@@terrystevens5261 They're stupid.
That looks horrible to drive, understeer is awful then bites you with oversteer.
Oops
oooops
understeer into the corner and oversteer on exit, asking for a crash
Looks like heinous oversteer to me actually, and terribly high dampening on the suspension.. he was never going to make it through those long meanders.
Christ, understeer much?
I see what you did wrong. You crashed.
No, what he did wrong was drive. The crash was a result of driving... lol
OOPS
Oops 😬
Shit happens...
not a crash
Troppo sottosterzo
not overteering
Waaaaaayyyyyy too fast!
Save lifetime and jump to 1:08.
Whoever made and paved this road, the angles and turns are so horribly designed
Bro the tuning coils def need a down-spring and the engine dials need to be reheated. This guy totally should've known this and he would've made it through that turn fine. Gosh
Read his comment
Meh… I’d be faster up there in the wet, 40mph headwind and on a Penny Farthing with a buckled wheel
😂
damn we all must have lost it, but noone can seem to find who asked
Omg. Hope he/she looks for another sport. Bad driver
from start it was a shitty one,the driver has nothing in common with the wheel,sportcar is not for evreyone
sloppy. the driver is really sloppy.