@@finnheisenheim8274 If naruto was created in the past couple years, it may have taken a very different approach where the protagonist would be portrayed as anti-hero or dark hero. However, back then, readers / fans preferred hot-blooded heroes who acted like Jesus, he will forgive his enemies and save his allies at all costs. Bleach, Fairy Tails, Naruto, One Piece, Dragon Ball all had one thing in common, the protagonist is literally a good person with the purest of heart despite whatever darkness he has been through. (Even in the direst of times, he will use his "dark" or "hidden" power for good). And then there came a different approach with protagonists, you get Death Note, Tokyo Ghouls, and Hellsing. These dudes are not evil, but hanging between the edge of a villain and someone morally grey. Like i said, if you look at the movies or tv series nowadays, comparing to the past, the younger generation are more interested in anti-heroes or "cool" villains than normal-old-school heroes. If naruto was created in 2017 or later, he would not necessarily burn the leaf village to ashes, but he might just slaughter those who caused his misery and the deaths of his parents.
Same. Those cinematics are killer, though. Literally. Beyond expensive and difficult to make, so a movie would be nearly impossible to create in that CGI.
Flibber Nodgets i mean it's both logical and natural to turn against a society who alienated and shunned you. Gul'dan is a product of the uncaring and savage tribe culture of orcs
I love this backstory, it explains his unending devotion to the Legion so well. When everyone chastised and abandoned him, the Legion was there in their absence. Giving him everything he ever wanted, power and purpose. Hatred and bitterness made him jaded to empathy, and so he has no problem aiding in the destruction of all life.
Moral of the Story? "Be nice to everyone. You never know when someone might make a pact with demons to bring about the end of the world because you were mean to them."
@@tyrmyrmidon2846 One person isn't enough. Everyone should have been nice to him or he wouldn't have gone nuts. Which is way I said "Be nice to everyone."
I like it how although he said thank you and then killed the clan shaman, he still picked up his staff and carries it to this day, maybe as a reminder of how he became who he is due to the shaman
Do you think Warlord Ner'zhul taught Warlord Gul'dan like he did in the main timeline? Or do you think the two times are just completely different like that?
This could be the Warlords of Draenor Gul'dan. It would explain the difference since things DID go differently in WoD then in our version of Draenor/Gul'dan.
technically Gul'dan didn't shatter Draenor but he aided in it so half-right and The elements are alive in (Outland) Nagrand at the Throne of Elements but they may have been weakened during the shattering of Draenor but still he did get the Elementals back
I was really hoping Gul'Dan would spare his village's Shaman but I also knew it wasn't going to happen. He said thank you -- that's a lot for Gul'Dan I guess.
Based on the face Gul'dan makes right after the "thank you", I'd say it was a taunt. Like "Thanks for tell me to go to the Elements who turned their back on me - there, I found something better."
Well, in a sense the shaman was right, he did found his destiny at the Trhone of the Elements, he never said that the elements themselves would bring it to him.
REMEMBER THIS IS THE ALTERNATE REALITY GUL'DAN!! Our Gul'Dan was an Apprentice to Nerzul and was of the Shadowmoon Tribe. Don't get them mixed up... only one can be given sympathy...
Yes and no. This likely IS with the whole alternate universe thing, but also maybe in connection with the movie? They had Christie Golden write a new novel about Durotan as a prequel to the movie. This appears to match what Gul'Dan's story could have been for that. I am not sure if they have said the movie stuff is supposed to be canon now or what?
Doesn't make much since for the Alternate reality gul'dan...seeing how his origins take place way before Garrosh even came into the picture to roll in the new reality. This is retcon if anything.
@TheGreaterGood80 thats because he never earned his power, it was gifted to him by the legion and could be taken away by the legion. a good lesson here is earn your power by your own perseverance, or work to become better than even your teachers.
@@thelonelyduck7267 Well, he suffered and endured and it was his will fight back that lead him to the Fel. One could argue that a big strong agile 'hero' was born with physical power so that was 'given' to him as well.
Except the fact that he is the only edgy kid who got the edgy magic powers while the others are still figuring out why the book they bought on Amazon to summon demons didn't work.
I feel like they are re-writing the story of Gul'dan. He was a powerful shaman originally. Unless they are saying that this alternate timezone Gul'dan had a whole different story to begin with. Which if that's the case then I have no issue. Either way was an awesome video.
4:11 I know that scream. All too well. This made me wish that there was an option to side with Gul'dan as a questline, to get to know him personally. Even if he fails at the end, it would have been worth it.
1:10 I love that line from the shaman. He's trying to say it earnestly but all Gul'dan hears is: Shaman: I failed because Gul'dan is a failure. You suck, Gul'dan.
+Finalrellik99 Sargeras and the Old Gods are not on the same side, but what if Kil'jaeden sided with them? He does not care about the universe as much as Sargeras... Just speculating hehe
I think that's the point. Blizzard is trying to give you a reason to have emotion when we kill him. And give us more to him , than , he's a bady to go on. And I'm sure he'll start crying it was there fault and such when we bring him to 0 HP to tug at our heart strings. Not going to be an easy fight knowing that he was just victim to not knowing other than people are cruel and unforgiving before he was given the power to do something about it.
Finally the Legion series. These animations are so amazing. Also I'm guessing this is referring to the alternate universe Gul'Dan and not the one from our timeline.
Could be, or both seeing as it's early in his life. Although from my memory he was an apprentice of Ner'zhul so this is probably the alternate Gul'dan.
Probably the two Gul'dan share a similar past, like the others Warlords we saw on Draenor. Maybe the Original Gul'dan was banned from his clan because his deformity too, but discovered the demonic power later.
the word never isn't in that entire song apart from a a single sentence repeated twice, and it is not that one. you love the song so much but don't know the words
Every orc in that village deserved their fate, isn't that what they preached? The strong survive and the weak must perish? Funny how that becomes irrelevant when a social outcast is the strong.
Lamar A They had that in mind but still, there was no place for him because of his weakness and thats about it, activly killing someone is way worse than just abandoning someone who dosen’t fit into a system at least they gave him a chance and with that method of “killing” they basically say we don’t care if you life or die just don’t do it here and thats fine by me. And my name is not “Russianguy” if you want to call me with a name use the name on youtube because it’s my real one.
"They cast him him out knowing he will not survive" thats not entirely accurate but still close because the old man told guldan to seek the spirits (or something like that)and that he will find the answers there.....guldan did arrive at such place but he was rejected...im not taking sides but my point is at least guldan should have let the old.man live....i mean at least he was trying to help him out...
I don't think they made him more sympathetic. Sure he was kick out but he used that discrimination to fuel his own hatred. Not really that much sympathetic like arthas who try to do good thing but end up not.
All it did was tell us HOW did gul'dan come into contact with the legion in the first place. Still shows us that he WAS one of the most evil characters in wow then. Even MORE evil now.
“Elements, spirits, please. I have known nothing but constant suffering and pain. I crawl before you to beg for your aid, beg for your strength, to help me overcome these hardships. I am your humble servant.” Elements: “Nah lol.”
''Overcome these hardships'' - Do you think Gul'dan's bitterness and hatred would wash away? Or would he rain fire down on his tribe regardless of it's colour?
@@JRBDWD the one issue with that is that we don't really know how much of his personnality was altered by the Fel he embraces fully. though mind you i'm pretty sure, fel or not, that he would have killed those that rejected him regardless
Well guess what Mr. Gul'dan, I now know of the village you came from. What do you say about that, huh? How does that make you *feel*? Should've thought about that before narrating your entire past in epic fashion.
Or they were scared off by Mannaroth/Whichever demon lord that was who was whispering to him. They seemed pretty willing to take him in until something spooked them.
Well, he's still alive in ours as well . But the whole reason for the Legion showing up was that Kil'jaeden's job was to convert as many races as possible from the great dark to the Legions armies. Kil'jaeden , however, had a vendetta to chase after first. He despised the Draenei, and more so Velen, for turning away such an offer , and in his eyes abandoning them. So, Kil'jaeden , killing two birds with one stone. Converted the Orcs , whilst getting his revenge, so he thought. sargeras had nothing to do with that bit. sargeras doesn't do anything directly , he leads his forces from Argus. Which makes sense , being that fear was essentially why he made the Legion. So him sitting in his tower , only dealing with big threats or issues , like us , is to his character. Not that he's cowardly , but , He'd surely take any chance at all to not have to deal with potentially, the void lords.
5:36 Really tiny detail, but for a moment the red glow in Gul'dan's eyes disappears. I suppose that this offering of thanks to the village shaman for being the only one who cared about him was genuine. Not that it really mattered in the end... There's generally quite a bit to interpret here. Did the elements refuse help Gul'dan because they sensed that he was evil at heart and they would not serve someone who would abuse their power? Or did the demonic presence of the Burning Legion drive them off? Gul'dan sought power for himself and hated his clan. A shaman is supposed to be the spiritual center of a clan who serves as a bridge between the clan and the elements. Warlocks are a perversion of that role, using power solely for themselves and fueling their power with the misery of other's.
The fact that villains aren't born evil, but created is what makes them so interesting. Now I don't know how Gul'dan was cast out from the clan, but it might be a incident that sends out a bad reputable position in regards of him. The pain and suffering that he endured made him into the sort of monster he is. He also embraces his demons. This is the case with most antagonist. And at that last part where Gul'dan thanks the Elder ( whatever this old farts name is.) sends chills down my spine. Creepy way of thanking your Elder before turning him into dust. Cool backstory. I like it
Gul'dan truly did nothing wrong. Mocked and cast away by his clan for being born deformed. Abandoned by the elements. Left to die alone. I'd want to destroy the world too if I went through that. Best boy in Warcraft
He did a lot of wrong, he rejected the shaman that solely wanted to help him and denied the help he was looking for, the elements abandoned him because he wanted the power greedily, he was born an evil crook
dark shaman aren't chosen by the elements. they use Decay to subjugate the elements by force. regular shaman communicate with the elements and create partnerships with them. also, he didnt side with the Legion at the tomb because he wasn't power-hungry lol, he did it because he knew that if he betrayed the legion, he'd have literally no allies and he'd be stopped just like the last gul'dan was stopped. they go over this in the tomb of sargeras audio drama. gul'dan is evil, but he's also a coward and a pawn who bit off way more than he could chew.
Dominique Smith Actually Sociopaths are more evil than Psychopaths given the fact that Sociopaths long to cause harm whereas Psychopaths have no use to cause harm to things and mainly abstain from it. My best friend was a Psychopath and did form an odd bond with me. The ability to make a bond and in their own way "care." For other people is what separates Psychopaths from Sociopaths since Sociopaths and to an extent Narcissists feed off of the negativity of their actions.
noticed how he never mentioned the names of those people or even what clan it was? telling us this story doesn't make us know who they were, they are lost now forever in the ashes of history.
Him being alive and coming back into our timeline would have made for an interesting set up to another scourge specific expansion. Like if the armor could sense the other Ner'zhul in our world and started rejecting Bolvar as it's host, making him lose grasp on the scourge and sending them wild again.
It doesn't really matter which Gul'dan it is, because after you defeat the WoD Gul'dan and he gets send back to the Twisting Nether, the Burning Legion gives him the memories and knowledge of our Main Universe Gul'dan, so even though our Gul'dan is dead, he still "lives" inside the WoD Gul'dan. And the Gul'dan in the harbingers story is the WoD one. Hope this helps.
I don't know if I already commented this, but I get a seriously tragic vibe when he says "and no one ever will." I mean, really. The only person who remembers what you did is _you. You_ carry the hatred, the sorrow, the regret, the pain. Just you. If that doesn't warrant sympathy, it at leasts deserves a begrudging nod, because that is *_painful._*
to everyone saying he joins ner'zhul after this: no. Gul'dan was Ner'zhul's apprentice and when Ner'zhul refused to follow the legion, Gul'dan did in his place. that's what happened. Gul'dan wasn't in contact with the legion before ner'zhul, the legion contacted Ner'zhul first to make him think the draeni were evil. I mean gdi Blizzard read your own history or go to Nobbel's channel
Because at face value it doesn't explain a lot. Why did they reject him? Why did the fel find him at the throne of elements? Was his deformity just that he was weak and couldn't gain muscle?
Alrem McCrae Yes, but his question is about wether or not the elements rejected gul'dan, not why. The video clearly shows and states that the elements rejected gul'dan.
The elements probably rejected him because he tried to grasp it. Shamanism in WoW isn't so much as controlling the elements as learning to live in balance with it. Gul'dan wanted power more than anything else and the elements could sense that.
They did not want him because he had a shutty personality. Chances are that he would have instantky started abusing the power of the elements and the elemental lords knew that.
These animated shorts are quite amazing. They always deliver such high impact and genuine feeling of what the Warcraft universe is meant to be ... it's too bad the game itself doesn't deliver that anymore.
Shaman tries helping Gul'Dan find greatness. Never stops believing in him. Urges Gul'Dan to find the Throne of Elements. Gul'Dan actually listens for once and repays the Shaman by murdering him, possibly by melting his face off. 10/10 Gul'Dan behavior.
same! i miss the good ol' "dark days" of blizzard...these days everything they make is so kiddish and light hearted like overwatch, heroes of the storm, and hearthstone...
no, probably not. He sought out the throne of the elements, which are in Nagrand on Draenor. The "wastes" that he speaks of, could be the area around Grommashar in nagrand. But then again, it could be Faralon, and the wastes could be refering to Faralon/Gorgrond. Altough it would be very unlikely that he would be able to traverse an entire continent by himself.
Considering the death glare he was giving us at the end, and the way darkness descended as he said that last line... I don't think the poor schmucks he was talking to can be classified as "living" anymore.
I can relate to Gul'dan in that he fostered hatred with in himself because he was made mockery of and essentially bullied, I experienced something similar for long time as a child. Man, I don't wanna dare think about where I would had been if I had not met my buddies.
According to WoW Chronicle Vol 2 this is also what happened to our universe's Gul'dan. He actually was an agent for Kil'jaeden before Kil'jaeden reached out to Ner'zhul. Gul'dan killed his former clan to ensure no one knew his past and put on a facade to join the shadowmoon clan and began manipulating Ner'zhul and even became his apprentice to further stay within Ner'zhul's trust. With the help of Gul'dan Kil'jaeden began to manipulate Ner'zhul. and yes some of that bit was changed.
That's how Gul'dan was made. Villains aren't born. They were made after being outcasted from society and turned into the very Evil they are today. Gul'dan's Story is very tragic.
This is alternate universe gul'dan, right? Because this definitely didn't happen in the book 'rise of the horde' If it is alternate gul'dan, cool, new lore!
What really confuses me as a lore fan (though i took a break in the last 4 years) is at what point this whole different timeline actually starts at? and what created this whole timeline? how do they connect? halp :(
![Illidan Returns & Kills Gul’dan: Archimonde vs. Kil'jaeden - All Cinematics [20 years of WoW]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1VILvOpn2w4/mqdefault.jpg)
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"
Brilliant quote. What is it from and what else you got wise stranger?
@@vojtaniedelsky8011 It is an old African proverb.
pretty relevant in 2019
I can't help but think of naruto. Imagine if he went "gul'dan" on the leaf village
@@finnheisenheim8274 If naruto was created in the past couple years, it may have taken a very different approach where the protagonist would be portrayed as anti-hero or dark hero. However, back then, readers / fans preferred hot-blooded heroes who acted like Jesus, he will forgive his enemies and save his allies at all costs. Bleach, Fairy Tails, Naruto, One Piece, Dragon Ball all had one thing in common, the protagonist is literally a good person with the purest of heart despite whatever darkness he has been through. (Even in the direst of times, he will use his "dark" or "hidden" power for good).
And then there came a different approach with protagonists, you get Death Note, Tokyo Ghouls, and Hellsing. These dudes are not evil, but hanging between the edge of a villain and someone morally grey. Like i said, if you look at the movies or tv series nowadays, comparing to the past, the younger generation are more interested in anti-heroes or "cool" villains than normal-old-school heroes.
If naruto was created in 2017 or later, he would not necessarily burn the leaf village to ashes, but he might just slaughter those who caused his misery and the deaths of his parents.
I would watch a full movie made in this art style
I woudln't. It's just a slideshow with sound.
I would watch a Blizzard Cinematic (the beautifully rendered kind, not the in-game type) with this story.
Agreed
Same.
Those cinematics are killer, though. Literally. Beyond expensive and difficult to make, so a movie would be nearly impossible to create in that CGI.
+Rowan Buchanan You are so wrong... wow...
This is why bullying is bad. You never know who might turn into a warlock 'cause someone was mean to them.
Flibber Nodgets lol
You never know if that guy will turn into green fel blood drug dealer
Flibber Nodgets i mean it's both logical and natural to turn against a society who alienated and shunned you.
Gul'dan is a product of the uncaring and savage tribe culture of orcs
This is the cruel reality of life. The bullied victims turns into villians while the jocks that bullied them turn into heroes :(
Fel School Shooter.
I love this backstory, it explains his unending devotion to the Legion so well. When everyone chastised and abandoned him, the Legion was there in their absence. Giving him everything he ever wanted, power and purpose. Hatred and bitterness made him jaded to empathy, and so he has no problem aiding in the destruction of all life.
He was the one that caused that and also,he is not devoted to the legion,he just use their power
What you just described is how gangs lure the poor misfortunate in them pretty much.
ye
@@Obscurity89+1
Undying devotion? He betrayed them in the tomb of sargaress, where he was then killed.
Gul'dan got bullied too much and shot up his village
I guess green is the white in orcs
You better outrun my felfire
Pumped up locks
it's like those school shooters
Don't come to the village tomorrow
Moral of the Story?
"Be nice to everyone. You never know when someone might make a pact with demons to bring about the end of the world because you were mean to them."
ياالله ي ثور البركان وياالله يمقوم زلزال
@@appstore7702 shindu falla-nah
He still ended up killing the elder, who was nice to him
@@tyrmyrmidon2846 One person isn't enough. Everyone should have been nice to him or he wouldn't have gone nuts. Which is way I said "Be nice to everyone."
Alternatively, the lesson is that if you kill the rejects you'll always be safe.
I like it how although he said thank you and then killed the clan shaman, he still picked up his staff and carries it to this day, maybe as a reminder of how he became who he is due to the shaman
well yeah.."Thank you" but ...u know...gotta be a homicidal maniac now :D
I think he just liked the cool stick
cr4yv3n hu
I wish we could’ve looted it.
He was merciful to the shaman. It was either killing the old shaman or leaving him to the same fate he tasted in the open wastes.
"Dave... u were one of the good ones. Stay away from the village tomorrow"
I've learned a bit of fel magic, don't come to the axe fighting training grounds tomorrow
This is why bullying is bad... this is how you make serial killers or powerful warlocks.
You and your moral high ground...
+abcdef abcdef
Missed opportunity there for a Tracer quote. XD
:D
I can imagine a service announcement in stormwind city; "bullying causes demon invasions"
LOL
Somewhere poor Ner'zhul is like "I was into Gul'dan before it was cool"
I ship it
Do you think Warlord Ner'zhul taught Warlord Gul'dan like he did in the main timeline? Or do you think the two times are just completely different like that?
+Kakio Bukakio?
So are they retconning Gul'dan's old story? Or is this some alt universe stuff? I haven't really kept up with the lore since cata.
This could be the Warlords of Draenor Gul'dan. It would explain the difference since things DID go differently in WoD then in our version of Draenor/Gul'dan.
Gul'dan misread the [Joys of Draenor Cooking] as [Joys of Cooking Draenor]
Gul'dan = Nomi confirmed
This is black humor at its' best
Zuzanna Stawowska it really...really isnt
rofl
'To serve Dranei'?😏
A story that echoes throughout history and fiction. Neglect and abuse leads to destruction.
Neglect and abuse leads to destruction.
amen.
Its true
Atleast guldan thanked the old orc
@@bladefeather2293... and then killed him
@@BestBoiA :v
>Gul'dan seeks elemental forces.
>Elemental Lords reject Gul'dan.
>Gul'dan decides to follow the Legion.
>Gul'dan rips apart Draenor and thus destroys Elemental Lords.
Gul'dan: 1
Elemental Lords: 0
Gul'dan didn't rip apart Draenor. Ner'zhul did. And the Elements survived, you can see them if you go to Nagrand.
@@raziel6304 i think their elemental plain was ruines tho
technically Gul'dan didn't shatter Draenor but he aided in it so half-right and The elements are alive in (Outland) Nagrand at the Throne of Elements but they may have been weakened during the shattering of Draenor but still he did get the Elementals back
Legion rips apart Gul'dan
as you can see i am alive
My therapist: So...tell me about your childhood
Me: No one living has heard of the village of my birth and no one ever will
Date: So... tell me about yourself
Me: I am darkness incarnate.
After session: Thank you......i found.....my destiny *burns the therapist with fel fire*
😁😆
I was really hoping Gul'Dan would spare his village's Shaman but I also knew it wasn't going to happen.
He said thank you -- that's a lot for Gul'Dan I guess.
Still was a snide kind of thank you, and he stole his staff. Don't really think Gul'dan cared for the Shaman any more than the rest of the clan.
It's not stealing if the guy's dead. It's looting.
Based on the face Gul'dan makes right after the "thank you", I'd say it was a taunt. Like "Thanks for tell me to go to the Elements who turned their back on me - there, I found something better."
Id say it was legit thanks... because he did find his destiny, ironically not the destiny the shaman expected. :P
Well, in a sense the shaman was right, he did found his destiny at the Trhone of the Elements, he never said that the elements themselves would bring it to him.
« No one living has heard of the village of my birth… and no one ever will… »
That line is the best.
Yes. And no one! Ever! Will!
REMEMBER THIS IS THE ALTERNATE REALITY GUL'DAN!! Our Gul'Dan was an Apprentice to Nerzul and was of the Shadowmoon Tribe. Don't get them mixed up... only one can be given sympathy...
They must have at least partly retconned the original story.
Yes and no. This likely IS with the whole alternate universe thing, but also maybe in connection with the movie? They had Christie Golden write a new novel about Durotan as a prequel to the movie. This appears to match what Gul'Dan's story could have been for that. I am not sure if they have said the movie stuff is supposed to be canon now or what?
Devin Moravec movie stuff is not cannon.
But the original lore is old, so some of the changes made for the movie or for Warlords may apply.
***** Yes, this is the alternate one. But parts of his story may apply to the original Gul'dan.
Only the other orc who cheats knows.
Doesn't make much since for the Alternate reality gul'dan...seeing how his origins take place way before Garrosh even came into the picture to roll in the new reality. This is retcon if anything.
"I would never again grovel for a place in this world. Instead I would forge a world that would grovel before me."
EXACTLY
GUL' DAN ACTED LIKE A REAL MAN
Purely Evil
@TheGreaterGood80 thats because he never earned his power, it was gifted to him by the legion and could be taken away by the legion. a good lesson here is earn your power by your own perseverance, or work to become better than even your teachers.
@@thelonelyduck7267 Well, he suffered and endured and it was his will fight back that lead him to the Fel. One could argue that a big strong agile 'hero' was born with physical power so that was 'given' to him as well.
@@denzelclauded.pagaduan9560 pure wisdom.
4:47 *The village should've listened to the DBM warning*
run little girl, run away
Soo glad I'm not the only one who heard that...
fk u noobs
Omg its u Letalis from SWTOR ? Really love your vids!
hey
"I have no people!"
No matter how many times I watched this, this line always give me goosebumps :D
Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to the Throne of the Elements tomorrow
Why not? Lol
He's quoting Hatred.
He's quoting a school shooter's mesage on 4chan. He said "some of you guys are alright. don't go to school tomorrow."
very edgy.
PathosFear some of you are alright. Don't log onto TH-cam tomorrow
2 likes mann
This almost actually makes me feel bad for Gul'dan... And then I remember Durotan.
You can still pity him, the movie isn't the real event.
He screwed over Durotan even in the Cannon version.
well it's a good thing no one was talking about the movie.
Gul'dan is responsible for Durotan's death in the canon story as well. So technically the OP isn't wrong for posting this.
It actually is
Don't let your kids seek out the throne of the elements...
XD The picture fits the comments all to well
Throne of the Elements, not even once.
No, let them seek the throne of the elements, just don't bully them and exile them for being different.
I was kind of getting the vibe that Gul'dan refused his place as the "village cripple," and that arrogance was the source of the bullying/exile.
I'd do the same thing as Gul'dan if I was in his place, except maybe let the old shaman live.
After 3 minutes of this video I was more emotionally connected to Gul'Dan than any other character in the 2 hour WarCraft movie.
bc u was stuffed into lockers?
Except the fact that he is the only edgy kid who got the edgy magic powers while the others are still figuring out why the book they bought on Amazon to summon demons didn't work.
Truth.
@Makhi Makharadze Someone's projecting hard
anyone know how to make this ty[e of videos? >
That chanting ambience chills you to the bone
i know right hellscream :D
I feel like they are re-writing the story of Gul'dan. He was a powerful shaman originally. Unless they are saying that this alternate timezone Gul'dan had a whole different story to begin with. Which if that's the case then I have no issue. Either way was an awesome video.
its not our timeline Gul'dan
+Josh Gamauf dont know about being a powerfull shaman because he still was an apprtice of ner'zul
Doron has more likes than you
He was denied becoming the "Avatar" so he got mad and became green lantern
That all changed, when the Fire nation attacked.
@@Blondie42 Fel* nation.
Guldan is a schoolshooter
Guldan is an Esports shooter
My cohort?......I.....have....no....cohort!
*pumped up kicks plays*
With a nuke
@Ryan W The xenophobe doesn't get jokes.
- WHEEZE -
When people ask me where I'm from, I just say: "No one living has heard of the village of my birth. And no one... ever... will."
Hzorian They,then cringe and think about not talking to you later.
LOL
lol
Them: Your from Milwaukee arent you?
You: Wha!.. N...No! Shut up!
*cue tripping as you run away*
Nice.
But if you were bullied, make it real, :V
Well done Elementals... You didn't give Gul'dan love and accepted him... And Kil'jaeden saw his chance... well played...
Ah thanks for explaining. :-) You must be worthy and he just wanted power to get revenge on his clan.
+Former Jon Jones Fan Nah, they back aways because they know what he will become.
+Jack Browne there's five
the poo elements
I think Kil'Jaeden let them vanish
4:11
I know that scream. All too well.
This made me wish that there was an option to side with Gul'dan as a questline, to get to know him personally. Even if he fails at the end, it would have been worth it.
That look in the Shaman's eyes when he knew he had led Gul'Dan to find that power. Love it.
Yep
الهرا خلق الناس وخله هلون الهلون الله بو هرارن كبير
@@appstore7702 wtf dude?
i mean...he kinda just looks terrified because gul’dan is scary now, thats all
@@appstore7702 bruh, you drunk?
Gul'dan should've said "Extraordinary." before killing everyone.
ERROR ERROR if he has the skin
He did say thank you at least
Nope he had to say "I greet you"
And at the end just say: "Your soul shall suffer!"
nah
Don't do Fel kids.
Dino Mulalic Use commas properly, kids.
r/wooooosh
@@Elliamy01 who are you wooshing and what for?
I chocked on my food when I read it
Do jesus
Come on now lorewalker cho..... you cant fool me by putting on an orc costume
Winnie the Poo damnit
I still think it's fishy how Cho's ancestor in the vision was wearing a Keepers of Time tabard.
That's the guy that voices the new Winnie the Pooh.
Rofl. Thank you for making my day :).
omg I laughed at this comment
1:10 I love that line from the shaman. He's trying to say it earnestly but all Gul'dan hears is:
Shaman: I failed because Gul'dan is a failure. You suck, Gul'dan.
Yeah that is the issue...
When everyone is cruel to you without pause, will even the few kind words you get sound like mockery.
@@tnecniw Guldan created that
@@JRBDWDpsychology created that
@@jpjfrey5673 No. Stop the "making excuses" mindset.
To everyone not understanding his deformity, it's his back. He's the hunchback of Nagrand.
We have been given a gift from Yogg-Saron himself, thank you my lord
The old gods and the legion are not on the same side
+Finalrellik99 Sargeras and the Old Gods are not on the same side, but what if Kil'jaeden sided with them? He does not care about the universe as much as Sargeras... Just speculating hehe
getting your void and your fel mixed up :P
+Finalrellik99 Yeah, and? That's just a good thing, The Old Ones should not have to share world domination with anyone.
love seeing u and hellscream on wow videos😂
who else felt sympathy for Gul'dan?
I think that's the point. Blizzard is trying to give you a reason to have emotion when we kill him. And give us more to him , than , he's a bady to go on. And I'm sure he'll start crying it was there fault and such when we bring him to 0 HP to tug at our heart strings. Not going to be an easy fight knowing that he was just victim to not knowing other than people are cruel and unforgiving before he was given the power to do something about it.
He's just a poor misguided kid :( he just want to be loved :C poor old gul'dan!
kam hagh And now he's a raid boss. Oh how the world can be cruel.
+Jack ripper (Jack the ripper) lol
kam hagh you won't laugh when he goes hardcore heart strings when his HP hits 0.
Finally the Legion series. These animations are so amazing. Also I'm guessing this is referring to the alternate universe Gul'Dan and not the one from our timeline.
Could be, or both seeing as it's early in his life. Although from my memory he was an apprentice of Ner'zhul so this is probably the alternate Gul'dan.
'Tis the alternate Gul'dan. Our Gul'dan was a Shadowmoon; apprentice of ner'zhul.
Probably the two Gul'dan share a similar past, like the others Warlords we saw on Draenor. Maybe the Original Gul'dan was banned from his clan because his deformity too, but discovered the demonic power later.
I dont get this alternate timeline stuff, can you explain?
DORON!! NOTICE ME SEMPAI~
"I would never again grovel for a place in this world. Instead I would forge a world that would gravel before me." thank you, this is what i needed
I feel slightly sorry for the elder of the clan
The amount of internal suffering he had to have felt.
Slightly??
and jack his beloved staff.
Yea.. that's what he got for failing to help him in the first place I suppose. Unfortunate.
Same here. I thought he was going to be spared :- (
He didn't choose the thug life.. the thug life chose him.
Amen brother.
the Fel life*
Evidently...
Literally
I get goosebumps every time i watch this. I never will lose those. This is incredibly well made ever since it dropped
"CRAWLING IN MY SKIN, THESE WOUNDS WILL NEVER HEAL...."
the word never isn't in that entire song apart from a a single sentence repeated twice, and it is not that one.
you love the song so much but don't know the words
@@lolcomment101 "CRAWLING IN MY CRAWL, THESE CRAWL WILL NEVER CRAWL"
They will not*
Every orc in that village deserved their fate, isn't that what they preached? The strong survive and the weak must perish? Funny how that becomes irrelevant when a social outcast is the strong.
Dingo Egret who said it was irrelevant? It was enforced to the maximum
Lamar A They had that in mind but still, there was no place for him because of his weakness and thats about it, activly killing someone is way worse than just abandoning someone who dosen’t fit into a system at least they gave him a chance and with that method of “killing” they basically say we don’t care if you life or die just don’t do it here and thats fine by me. And my name is not “Russianguy” if you want to call me with a name use the name on youtube because it’s my real one.
"They cast him him out knowing he will not survive" thats not entirely accurate but still close because the old man told guldan to seek the spirits (or something like that)and that he will find the answers there.....guldan did arrive at such place but he was rejected...im not taking sides but my point is at least guldan should have let the old.man live....i mean at least he was trying to help him out...
Dingo Egret sounds like someone bully you in highschool
alexandre devy sounds like you see yourself as an alpha. perceptions and reality are two different things.
Best Anit-bullying PSA.
Gaddammit they humanised Gul'Dan, poor dude :(
Humanized a demonically warped Orc? Do you mean Orcanized?
@ransac16
The point is, they made him more sympathetic. Still, probably best not to let that stop you from fighting Gul'dan; he's too far gone now.
I know, they made me feel bad for him :(
I don't think they made him more sympathetic. Sure he was kick out but he used that discrimination to fuel his own hatred. Not really that much sympathetic like arthas who try to do good thing but end up not.
All it did was tell us HOW did gul'dan come into contact with the legion in the first place. Still shows us that he WAS one of the most evil characters in wow then. Even MORE evil now.
I’m gonna have to start playing my warlock again.
“Elements, spirits, please. I have known nothing but constant suffering and pain. I crawl before you to beg for your aid, beg for your strength, to help me overcome these hardships. I am your humble servant.”
Elements: “Nah lol.”
Elements: "New phone who dis"
He was never humble and he caused that suffering
''Overcome these hardships'' - Do you think Gul'dan's bitterness and hatred would wash away? Or would he rain fire down on his tribe regardless of it's colour?
@@JRBDWD the one issue with that is that we don't really know how much of his personnality was altered by the Fel he embraces fully. though mind you i'm pretty sure, fel or not, that he would have killed those that rejected him regardless
This was... AMAZING!
even though i fel for gul'dan
fel. heh I get it.
I see what you did thar
FelsBadMan
Mannoroth you filthy casual.
+Level 58 Death Knight your nickname tho xD
When you played the Death knight just for the beggining area lore
Well guess what Mr. Gul'dan, I now know of the village you came from. What do you say about that, huh? How does that make you *feel*? Should've thought about that before narrating your entire past in epic fashion.
whats it called
Tyrius Wolfe kuhdgur will prutuct us xd
RIP Grample Gust. No one living knows of the village of his birth...
Why are you always on every video related to wow?
o.o
"It takes a village to raise a Warlock" - Some Orc-woman somewhere, running for President
So it is the fault of the Elements that we have to handle this son of a... well, thanks a lot :D
Or they were scared off by Mannaroth/Whichever demon lord that was who was whispering to him.
They seemed pretty willing to take him in until something spooked them.
+Questionable Object yup,it was kil'jaeden
***** +Stewie xD
It kinda sounded more like mannaroth to me with the really deep rumbly voice, but it could have been anyone really.
It honestly could have been Sargeras or KJ. Remember, the leader of the Legion is still alive in the Alternate Time Line.
Well, he's still alive in ours as well . But the whole reason for the Legion showing up was that Kil'jaeden's job was to convert as many races as possible from the great dark to the Legions armies. Kil'jaeden , however, had a vendetta to chase after first.
He despised the Draenei, and more so Velen, for turning away such an offer , and in his eyes abandoning them.
So, Kil'jaeden , killing two birds with one stone. Converted the Orcs , whilst getting his revenge, so he thought.
sargeras had nothing to do with that bit. sargeras doesn't do anything directly , he leads his forces from Argus. Which makes sense , being that fear was essentially why he made the Legion. So him sitting in his tower , only dealing with big threats or issues , like us , is to his character. Not that he's cowardly , but , He'd surely take any chance at all to not have to deal with potentially, the void lords.
And what Gul'dan must we give to hear your full story?
Everything.
4986 apexis crystals of course!
4986 apexis crystals? Is that it? Considering the mount costs 150,000 I feel like he's selling himself short.
Everything....
Ssss
I was looking for this. Thank you!
5:36 Really tiny detail, but for a moment the red glow in Gul'dan's eyes disappears. I suppose that this offering of thanks to the village shaman for being the only one who cared about him was genuine. Not that it really mattered in the end...
There's generally quite a bit to interpret here. Did the elements refuse help Gul'dan because they sensed that he was evil at heart and they would not serve someone who would abuse their power? Or did the demonic presence of the Burning Legion drive them off? Gul'dan sought power for himself and hated his clan. A shaman is supposed to be the spiritual center of a clan who serves as a bridge between the clan and the elements. Warlocks are a perversion of that role, using power solely for themselves and fueling their power with the misery of other's.
the question on why the elements rejected gul'dan is clearly up for interpretion here so the answer can be whatever you think it is.
"...and no one ever will" the chills! Gotta love it
A+ story telling.
Digital Mynd S
You never seen good storytelling it seems
@@arbaazshaw8123 do go on, tell us..
Imagine if the elements didn't reject him and Gul'dan became a Shaman, things would be so different.
Six minutes long and way better than the Warcraft movie.
What
Ha! Everything is better than the WoW "movie".
You forget Twilight...
+NADYN Warcraft was good the effects were awesome and they stayed really close to the lore
It's not even the "WoW" Movie, it's a movie about the first Warcraft, go play their RTS games.
The fact that villains aren't born evil, but created is what makes them so interesting. Now I don't know how Gul'dan was cast out from the clan, but it might be a incident that sends out a bad reputable position in regards of him. The pain and suffering that he endured made him into the sort of monster he is. He also embraces his demons. This is the case with most antagonist. And at that last part where Gul'dan thanks the Elder ( whatever this old farts name is.) sends chills down my spine. Creepy way of thanking your Elder before turning him into dust. Cool backstory. I like it
These are so well done, each frame is like watching a painting!
Every frame is painting ( and its deliciuous )
No one listened to the DBM pull timer sent by Gul'dan it would seem. 4:47
Ugh I miss these types of world of Warcraft animations can't wait for the next one.
lords of war serie was really awesome
its a shame they neglected WOD as they did. But! the future is looking pretty bright =D
For WoD they had similar stories: /playlist?list=PLY0KbDiiFYeP8hkPrVS3y0Ua45EJlWRBw
ChibbyTraxX Oh yeah ive seen those, i meant that they neglected the expansion as a whole. The lords of war series was a great one.
Gul'dan truly did nothing wrong. Mocked and cast away by his clan for being born deformed. Abandoned by the elements. Left to die alone. I'd want to destroy the world too if I went through that.
Best boy in Warcraft
He did a lot of wrong, he rejected the shaman that solely wanted to help him and denied the help he was looking for, the elements abandoned him because he wanted the power greedily, he was born an evil crook
dark shaman aren't chosen by the elements. they use Decay to subjugate the elements by force. regular shaman communicate with the elements and create partnerships with them. also, he didnt side with the Legion at the tomb because he wasn't power-hungry lol, he did it because he knew that if he betrayed the legion, he'd have literally no allies and he'd be stopped just like the last gul'dan was stopped. they go over this in the tomb of sargeras audio drama. gul'dan is evil, but he's also a coward and a pawn who bit off way more than he could chew.
Alice Summers the power of Darwinism
Dominique Smith Actually Sociopaths are more evil than Psychopaths given the fact that Sociopaths long to cause harm whereas Psychopaths have no use to cause harm to things and mainly abstain from it. My best friend was a Psychopath and did form an odd bond with me. The ability to make a bond and in their own way "care." For other people is what separates Psychopaths from Sociopaths since Sociopaths and to an extent Narcissists feed off of the negativity of their actions.
Amen.
I personally think all of these pre expansion story vids are incredible. I love the cinematic team at blizz, top tier
I look forward to beating Gul'dan to death with a shovel, little does he know its actually the Ashbringer, I just prefer shovels.
that is a transmog travesty. and I salute you for it.
Rofl. My lock will burn him with two torches :).
I'm torn between Ret and Prot for my main... I want to pally tank but I also want to cleave Gul'dan in half with Ashbringer and avenge
im going to use a Stick, and a blue bubble.
you are soooo mean :(
I feel bad for Gul'dan now. thx Blizz D:
why? he killed his whole village even the one who cared for him
frost fire Revange for casting him out mate
and the one who cared for him?
^This
If you mean that old orc who asks him to seek out the Throne of the Elements, the elements turn against him too.
"No one living has heard of the village of my birth. And no one ever will."
Well, it's on youtube now, genius.
noticed how he never mentioned the names of those people or even what clan it was? telling us this story doesn't make us know who they were, they are lost now forever in the ashes of history.
then tell me it's name dumass
Lol
We still don't know what village that is, just a village. So we know he came from a village. Which he already said. Genius ;)
maybe an easter egg can be found in the video that will help us to know the names of things?
4:47 Cinema sins, anyone?
It's a pretty overused sound effect. I hear it everywhere.
Ahhh that was where I recognized it from! xD
They did? When??
Nah. Bloodborne, and Jojo's.
It's used a lot in Dota 2 aswell.
I still like how our Ner'zhul became the Lich King and main antagonist of our timeline, but the other Ner'zhul exploded into purple dust.
Him being alive and coming back into our timeline would have made for an interesting set up to another scourge specific expansion. Like if the armor could sense the other Ner'zhul in our world and started rejecting Bolvar as it's host, making him lose grasp on the scourge and sending them wild again.
not the armor but the helm of domination
Now you're just being pedantic.
ye but that's like backtracking
So is that the dead Gul'dan from the Warcraft RTS, the Gul'dan from Warlords of Draenor, or Gul'dan from the Warcraft movie timeline ?
gul'dan from WoD, but who knows how many more gul'dans will blizz introduce after this one dies
It doesn't really matter which Gul'dan it is, because after you defeat the WoD Gul'dan and he gets send back to the Twisting Nether, the Burning Legion gives him the memories and knowledge of our Main Universe Gul'dan, so even though our Gul'dan is dead, he still "lives" inside the WoD Gul'dan. And the Gul'dan in the harbingers story is the WoD one. Hope this helps.
Martin wait, really? any source that this gul'dan received real gul'dans memories?
Gu'Dan from RTS can't be this one because this one kills Ner'Zhul right in the video.
It's the Gul'dan from Warlords of Draenor with RTS Gul'dans memories.
I don't know if I already commented this, but I get a seriously tragic vibe when he says "and no one ever will."
I mean, really. The only person who remembers what you did is _you. You_ carry the hatred, the sorrow, the regret, the pain. Just you.
If that doesn't warrant sympathy, it at leasts deserves a begrudging nod, because that is *_painful._*
Han- "Son, I know you are struggling in the Jedi Academy, onset of puberty and all... Maybe it is time for you to visit the Throne of the Elements?"
to everyone saying he joins ner'zhul after this: no. Gul'dan was Ner'zhul's apprentice and when Ner'zhul refused to follow the legion, Gul'dan did in his place. that's what happened. Gul'dan wasn't in contact with the legion before ner'zhul, the legion contacted Ner'zhul first to make him think the draeni were evil. I mean gdi Blizzard read your own history or go to Nobbel's channel
AU Gul'dan, you're point is invalid.
Its AU Guldan you are talking about our universe guldan that died in the Tomb of Sargeras.
+Papillonmyu isnt he in shadowmoon in BC at some point? or is my bad memory getting worse loo
AU gul dan
@Cody
In BC was his spirit/Ghost
so Gul'dan wanted to become a shaman but the elements rejected him and he became warlock ?
Why are you asking as if the video didn't make it clear enough?
Because at face value it doesn't explain a lot. Why did they reject him? Why did the fel find him at the throne of elements? Was his deformity just that he was weak and couldn't gain muscle?
Alrem McCrae Yes, but his question is about wether or not the elements rejected gul'dan, not why. The video clearly shows and states that the elements rejected gul'dan.
The elements probably rejected him because he tried to grasp it. Shamanism in WoW isn't so much as controlling the elements as learning to live in balance with it. Gul'dan wanted power more than anything else and the elements could sense that.
It's closer to spartan reasons. Orcs don't respect or accept someone with a physical disability unless it was sustained through battle.
Gul'dan's like the Warcraft version of Hitler after he failed art school.
These animated shorts are masterpieces. Well done Blizzard.
I blame the elements.
I wonder if they were scared off by the demons
@Devon Crusader source?
They did not want him because he had a shutty personality. Chances are that he would have instantky started abusing the power of the elements and the elemental lords knew that.
These animated shorts are quite amazing. They always deliver such high impact and genuine feeling of what the Warcraft universe is meant to be ... it's too bad the game itself doesn't deliver that anymore.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
If they could extend video's like this one, I'd love that. This was perfect. I felt it was better at telling the story.
Shaman tries helping Gul'Dan find greatness. Never stops believing in him. Urges Gul'Dan to find the Throne of Elements.
Gul'Dan actually listens for once and repays the Shaman by murdering him, possibly by melting his face off.
10/10 Gul'Dan behavior.
This gives me mad Diablo 2 vibes.
The voice of the old shaman sounds a bit like Marius from the diablo 2 cinematic, maybe that's why :P
That and how it ends with all the fire, and a cloaked figure.
@drjones153, He does, but Gul'dan's story is very reminiscent of how Marius used to tell his story too
@TooMuchStarbucks, I was looking for this! Exactly my thought ^^
same! i miss the good ol' "dark days" of blizzard...these days everything they make is so kiddish and light hearted like overwatch, heroes of the storm, and hearthstone...
i guess his village and "the wastes" were on faralon?
More likely the Ogre Continent.
no, probably not. He sought out the throne of the elements, which are in Nagrand on Draenor. The "wastes" that he speaks of, could be the area around Grommashar in nagrand.
But then again, it could be Faralon, and the wastes could be refering to Faralon/Gorgrond. Altough it would be very unlikely that he would be able to traverse an entire continent by himself.
But isn't Nagrand Warsong territory?
Has not always been Warsong territory. Gul'Dan in his teens is quite some time ago too.
Manfred Grom's father was buried in Nagrand (along with his ancestors), so Warsong has been operating within Nagrand for a while.
I have always loved Gul'Dan as a villain, and this makes me love him so much more.
No one living has heard of the village of my past, and no one ever will... wait what? The microphone has been on this whole time?
xD
we still dont know its, name location or clan name, all we know is he had one and he killed everyone in it
Considering the death glare he was giving us at the end, and the way darkness descended as he said that last line... I don't think the poor schmucks he was talking to can be classified as "living" anymore.
"No one living has heard about Blizzard of the past...."
"And no one... ever... will"
very poetic the way he starts and finishes with it
lore walker cho is an old orc now? okay.
He's also Hondo on Star Wars Rebels.
Thanks a ton I knew I knew that voice I just couldn't place it
He's also Winne the Pooh
He is? Never noticed that, now I won't be able to unhear it!
He's in Fallout 4
the red fades from his eyes as he thanks the old kind shaman. This was probably the last kindness, the last genuine thing to ever be spoken by him
"No one living has heard of the village of my birth, and no one ever will" such chills
I can relate to Gul'dan in that he fostered hatred with in himself because he was made mockery of and essentially bullied, I experienced something similar for long time as a child.
Man, I don't wanna dare think about where I would had been if I had not met my buddies.
According to WoW Chronicle Vol 2 this is also what happened to our universe's Gul'dan. He actually was an agent for Kil'jaeden before Kil'jaeden reached out to Ner'zhul. Gul'dan killed his former clan to ensure no one knew his past and put on a facade to join the shadowmoon clan and began manipulating Ner'zhul and even became his apprentice to further stay within Ner'zhul's trust. With the help of Gul'dan Kil'jaeden began to manipulate Ner'zhul. and yes some of that bit was changed.
Gul'dan founded the Stormreaver clan. It was clan comprised almost entirely of Warlocks.
One of the best WoW cinematics
Agreed.
This guy's evil character stomps all of those 'villains' in Shadowlands
Lord Gul'dan😈😈😈
Didn't kill the village fast enough, PLZ BUFF DESTRO.
moyga they should suffer
That's how Gul'dan was made. Villains aren't born. They were made after being outcasted from society and turned into the very Evil they are today. Gul'dan's Story is very tragic.
The greatest part of this. Gul'dan took the shamans staff showing he was actually thankful to him.
This is alternate universe gul'dan, right? Because this definitely didn't happen in the book 'rise of the horde'
If it is alternate gul'dan, cool, new lore!
its story of both gul'dans.. alternate universe starts after dreanor from other dimension connected to our azeroth
***** But our Gul'dan never contacted the legion until Ner'zhul figured out he was being puppeted, so this is a story of alternate only.
Xantog yeah sorry you are right i forgot about that
***** :D
What really confuses me as a lore fan (though i took a break in the last 4 years) is at what point this whole different timeline actually starts at? and what created this whole timeline? how do they connect? halp :(
5:12 that orc's scream is so satisfying
« Gul'dan was born good, but society corrupted him. » J.J. Rousseau
@Deathcoldan Ah yes, Jean Jacques Rousseau, famous 18th century philosopher and World of Warcraft blogger.
The “thank you” still haunts me