well, you forgot one part. Gul'dan did manage to escape the Tomb of Sargares, he made his way to an inn, and is now playing cards with all who would be challengers.
So if Gul'dan highjacked all the Ogre Magi of the horde, since they were loyal to him anyway, instead of taking a handful of hapless grunts with him, and if he took Cho Gal with him instead of letting him guard the ship he would have most likely won that battle gotten the Eye of Sargeras and became even more powerful that ever before!!!
I wanna join The Iron horde. Think about it a Horde filled with Orc's never enslaved by the burning legion. Never under the leadership of Guldan and never had warlocks. That is the Horde i want to be in. FOR THE IRON HORDE!
That's why was first excited for expansion when saying that we're about to meet all the warlords and then.. wait we're gonna fight them all but durotan? Psychness got sucked right out
jesus, Gul'dan in my mind is the most evil of the villans, he not only wants to destroy but manipulate and use people for his own ends. like some of the craziest where leaving the war in search of power knowing full well they would lose, or the breeding programs, and other stuff O.O
Yeah, it's been a while since I've seen a great villain in WoW. That's why I hope that Gul'dan survives the events of WoD and finds out a way to travel to our present timeline somehow and start messing with things there.
It would make sense if it was just the Champions and the alliance. This is no longer so because of garrisons Will be giving Champions their own armys, so it would be very hard to give a reason gul'dan would survive
He was, but he was also too passionate in my opinion. He is usually the guy in the shadows. The one that controls the situation, but is not right in the front. In the movie he was all like "You will obey me because Im powerful." Thats not how he usually goes. He is maybe one of the most powerful warlocks, but his best power is manipulation which goes along with clear mind. Not with this childish rage outbursts he showed in the movie. The CGI though was...
Blizz confirmed that the actions of Gul'dan and the Legion will be high for the last patch of WoD. Which makes me think that Gul'dan has something to do with Grom being the boss of this xpac.
It was said that the encounter will have a heavy Legion influence. Personally, I hope Grommash is barely part of the final encounter - or at least give us a real reason to fight him. There's no reason for him to be the final boss, especially when we've had a year of Garrosh and Blizz said they weren't going to go that way.
Grommash will not be the final boss. He'll be a patch boss for sure but there's no way it'll be so simple. Even in BC they knew that just Illidan wasn't enough, so we had an invasion by Kiljaeden. All sorts of things could happen, an invasion on Azeroth by the Naga, Sylvanas going crazy, the evil under Tirisfall showing itself, the Bronze Dragons becoming infinite, the alternate timeline's legion invading in Alternate Draenor, something involving Wrathion. There's a lot of potential above just stopping the Iron Horde.
Kokainuser i think it would be cool if WoD Gul'dan somehow comes into posession of the Skull of Gul'dan from our timeline, and finds out about the Tomb of Sargeras. with the additional knowledge, this time he is able to get the eye and sieze power for himself
From what I know about the lore of WoW, let me list all the Human Kingdoms that I know of and try to provide lore on them. Warning, this could be a very long comment. Kingdom of Stormwind: The last standing human bastion of civilization. Home of the Alliance, where King Varian Wrynn leads the Alliance, with his son Anduin backing him up. The lore of Stormwind City is quite lengthy, you can find the information easily on the internet. Kingdom of Lordaeron: Former home of the Alliance of Lordaeron, now fallen into shambles because of Arthas Menethil's meddling. It is now the home of the Forsaken, where they skulk around in the dark and wet sewer system beneath the former capital city. Kingdom of Stromgarde: Technically part of the Kingdom of Lordaeron, but has fallen into disrepair due to bandits and marauders. This Kingdom used to oversee their land of Arathi Highlands and Hillsbrad Foothills. Kingdom of Gilneas: The Gilnean people walled themselves off from the rest of civilization due to the threat of the Plague spreading throughout northern Lordaeron during the 3rd war. The Greymane Wall was shattered during the Shattering (The Cataclysm) and the Feral Worgen that lived in Silverpine Forest flooded in and started the epidemic that turned Gilneans into Worgen. These are all the Kingdoms that I know of, however, there are still some important cities where Humans lived and were part of a Kingdom. These are: Stratholme City: Part of the Kingdom of Lordaeron. Stratholme was the first place where the Plague was documented to start, with the help of Mal'Ganis the Dreadlord. Arthas Menethil, who was trying to stop the Plague at the time, purged the city of all the sick and ill, before setting sail to Northrend to track down Mal'Ganis and finish the fight. Durnhold Keep: Part of the Kingdom of Stromgarde, Kingdom of Lordaeron. A place where Orcish prisoners were kept, awaiting execution. Thrall was being held here and with the help of the Bronze Dragonflight, you free Thrall, and help him continue on this way to become the Warchief of the Horde.
Why though? Gul' Dan made Grommash, his clan, and the rest of the orcs his bitch. Conquered a planet. Is the most powerful warlock in existence. Grom has....a named axe.
Lillie Craft Yes it is irrelevant, since he was the first one to drink the blood and fuck his race in the first place. They wouldn't need saved if not for him.
Gul'dan is my favorite warlord too especially for his warlock appearance. Will we get to see how he was contact by the burning legion in warlords of draenor as the timeline is different to the original time line where he took over Nerzul? And so you think we will see that it will be Archimond or Kiljaden that first contacted Gul'dan? Also, i may be so bold, is there any war gear similar to Gul'dan, like the skull spikes on his back or the chains on his robes? Also, i think you are an amazing lore-master or Lorewalker ^^ for warcraft
GOSH! Finally! Nobbel, please do more videos like this! I know WoD is very important but.. you know I really love how to storytell us these lores! Always rooting for you Nobbel!
With the next expansion looming, rewatching some of this... _Whatever happened to Medivh?_ That's the last we've seen of Sargeras' soul. Maybe he possessed Med'an after that so we finally get to kill him!
As i remember Guldan was in flesh and bones in forgotten islands, the last expansion of WoW. He even interracted with some important characters (spoilers off for readers) Did he came back from death not just as a spirit? what am i missing?
Im surprised this story wasn't on your list of the first must do lores but i am happy to know a bit more about the monster that gave illidan his demonic powers
Pretty much the single most evil character in the franchise, and that includes dudes like Sargeras, at least he has a guiding belief in what he sees as the failure of the Titans order as his core reason for his great evil. Gul'dan just wanted personal power, and everything he ever did was in persuit of that, his desires were 100% self-centered and he was just completely selfish. As long as he got his power he didn't care at all what happened to the Orcs.
Rey Arocha Or piratebay, I found them on there. But weather I downloaded it is another matter, illegal an all that stuff ya know. "inconspicuous eye roll"
The Godlygamer no english is just not my primary language sorry if i offence you. but you are out of the topic. im just saying nobble do an awesome job ^.^
Velen didn't want to at first. He had to land the Exodar on Draenor, after the Naaru Ku're got sick and couldn't steer the ship any longer. The Draenai then had to rebuild their lives on Draenor, and reconstruct their dead society alongside the orcs. If you want to blame anybody, blame Archimonde and Kil'Jaden for joining Sargaeres even after Velen told them not to.
You are a 250,000 year old prophet who lives a peaceful life on a peaceful planet with your content people and two younger brorhers. Suddenly your brothers sign a pact with a DEMON TITAN against your will and raise an a demon army to destroy your civilization and murder you in cold blood.You lament and weep for many days, overcome by grief and loss. Suddenly you come face to face with a godlike creature, that fills your lonely study with blinding lights and sweet music, who be stills the sweet taste of hope after your many days of you grieving the loss of your brothers. He tells you to go to the highest mountain on your planet, along with your people, and meet him there again on the longest day of the year. You quickly gather your faithful people, and preach to them what words of wisdom the creature told you. Your people understand you and reject the vile influence of Sargaeres and his followers. When the day draws, you gather your bearings and muster your people and head to the highest mountain peak on your home planet. Shortly after arriving, you are beset by all sides by your enemies, the peak about to be taken by The Sargaerai. Your followers cower and cry in panic. "Mighty prophet!" They cry, " Too long have we known peace ! We have never seen such evil before. Pray almighty prophet, how will we defend ourselves? We are not warriors, nor can we fight." You look into the sky with tears overflowing your eyes, your old heart heavy and your mind distraught. You pray for the godly creature to come save your people " Ku're, help us..." All of a sudden the mountain bathes in a blinding light, your enemies not able to advance. Tears of sadness become tears of joy and relief as you gaze upon the majestic godlike creature, who as promised, come to save you and your people. He summons forth a mighty vessel, of which you have never seen before; a vessel big enough to carry your entire civilization to safety. The Naaru Ku're tells you that your home planet is dead, and that your only hope us escaping the Legion. He gestures for you and your people to get onto the ship, while he takes you away from this dying place, towards other planets that you may attempt to rebuild your shattered lives. You keep this fugitive charade with the Legion. Trying to find a planet to colonize, and escaping frantically when they find you. Until one day, you sense your ship lagging, slowing down. You ask the Naaru Ku're what is wrong. With a heavy voice, he tells you he is gravely ill, and can no longer pilot the Exodar. You nod with a heavy heart, pitying the noble creature that had been trying soo hard to protect you from evil. You nod, as he changes trajectories, landing on Draenor, which would later become your new home. Was it really Velen's fault for all these mess ups?
Every action has a result. Often its not what you expect. He tried desperately to save his people, but doing so he brought destruction over other people. You cant blame him. It is what it is. Thats how it goes in real life as well.
Velen never wanted to hurt anybody. I agree that his course of actions following the Naaru Ku're were inevitably destructive, but the Sargaerai didn't give him alot of options. Don't forget that it was Velen that brought the SunWell back to the Blood Elves(along with Muruu), and created the Shatari and Aldor factions after Shattrah City was restored.
Maybe someone can answer this, or even you Nobbel. What the hell is fel iron? I have never had much insight on it. Is it like Saronite? The blood of Yogg Saron?
you add s to the end of alot of words that dont need/have that letter at the end. like blackhand not blackhands. horde not hordes. word not words. red not reds. Stormwind not Stormwinds.
I did. With all his flaws I like what they did. It looks like a great start of something magnificent. I really hope they will fix the mistakes they did in this first movie in the next movies though.
I do not understand a word on the video! My primary language is not English, but I understand usually 90% of the videos in English! And the thing is I was excited to get the full story of Gul'dan! I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I'm trying to give you a positive feedback! :D Peace!
I am turkish and i can assure you mate in turkey english education is not that good in schools. so i agree his accent is diffrent but i do understand him im not here to judge you but there is no man that can tell you these stories better than nobbel im glad we have him
Dear Nobbel do you know why theres Ashran i thought Horde and Aliance where at peace after the Siege of Orgrimar, at first I thought that the Aliance will blame the Horde for setting Garrosh free but after reading War Crimes I highly doubt that. I`ve you know why I would be realy thankful if you could tell me.
The Siege brought an end to open war, so you won't see huge campaigns like in the Southern Barrens, Silverpine or Stonetalon Mountains storylines. Now its back to the way it was before the Wrathgate incident: a cold war. While the leaders may want peace, there are so many on both sides who hate the other that conflict is inevitable, but only on smaller scale skirmishes. Ergo, Ashran and the battlegrounds.
Hey Nobbel, what faction will you be playing this exp? Since it's Horde focused once again, I expect you'll be on Horde? I wish Alliance had such story lines.
Guys, i have a question, i thought that grommash hellscream didn't agree to drink the fel or that green blood and threw gul'dan's cup on the ground.... Why did nobbel say that he was the first one who drank that? I hope you will answer... Thank you!
I love these lore stories that you do. Do you know why the elder's on the wandering isles place there staffs into the ground creating a forest of staffs?
Hell scream was the first to accept the gift? I thought Hellscream poured it out after Gul'dan told him he had to give everything...then Hellscream used his axe to slice Mannoroth right in the skull.
It would be cool if the skull of Gul'dan had a similar effect to the Lich King's crown or even Frostmourne. When you have it in your possession you will here the whispers of the spirit within the object. Perhaps whoever has the skull of Gul'dan will here his whispers, creating a second lich king. Or something like that.
Gul'dan was not killed by Sargeras in the tombs as WIII says... He was murdered, judged by betrayal, after escaping the tombs, by Doomhammer's troops . This is also the main reason why the Horde didnt won the Great Second War... they were splitted in two big factions... guldan's ands doomhammer's forces. Seeing an opportunity on that, the Alliance striked first, before they could be restored after that rag-tag. And then the portal was destroyed only because that. Blizzard managed to erase an rewrite the true story of WarCraftII
Have all the good WoW villains died? I feel like since Cataclysm all the villains have been evil just because. Without any good motivation behind it whatsoever. Deathwing got corrupted by an elder god, yet we see none of that transformation. Garrosh got crazy because of terrible writing on Blizzard's side. I mean how the hell does he transform overnight from, Honor Krom'gar never abandon it and Sylvanas you're a bitch into IMMA NUKE ALL OF THE BASES, THRALL THIS IS YOUR FAULTTTT YOU LEFT ME AT THE ALTARR OR SOMETHING (capslock to punctuate Garrosh's new child like personality). And now we got a ton of orcs, of the MURDER EVERYTHING THAT MOVES variety. It makes me miss the good villains.
Something is weird for me. Thrall became Warchief after second invasion (right?) so how could Cho'Gall knew about him after assassinating Llane Wrynn? Thrall's parents werent dead yet so is it messed up or i just don't know everything? Sorry for my English, hope someone will answer me :)
Something that is not touched on here that is fairly important in defense of Ner'zhul; he was tricked. He had visions of his dead wife Rulkan, controlled by Kil'jaeden. He often communed with her prior to the arrival of Kil'jaeden's trickery. Seeing this vision, when visions of ancestors were typically trusted, Ner'zhul believed that combating the Dreanei was a correct action. He only learned of the deceit after it was too late. You can read about this in Rise of the Horde, by Christie Golden.
Plot Twist: Future expansion pack we actually go to the tomb and uses the eye of Sargeras in order to get to the home land of Sargeras' army and we wipe out the demonic force to the extent where barely any demons exist but Sargeras takes a flee to another planet that was conquered. With a ton of Titan lore to show, that he had returned to some awkward shadow planet that was created where the old gods orginally formed and long the way. We learn that Arcane magic is truly the basic of the whole story line of World of Warcraft (as if we didnt know already). Showing that it could be used in a Morally good sense (Naruu) and a Morally impure sense (Demons). And in the truth of reality of it, the Arcane magic is good nor evil (think about it Arcane magic drives their user crazy over time and needing more, but is useful when a time of need, Khadgar can be an example.) Kidding this probably wont happen but I can at least see they'll split up the potential "Burning Legion" expansion to two parts other than just making it one. I mean it would be too much for one expansion pack for that to occur.
Nobbel87 I know this has nothing to do with this particular video, but it's been something that's been scratching at the back of my mind for the longest time. I'm new to your channel and have just recently caught up on all your lore videos. One thing I keep hearing when the Titans are mentioned is that "killing an Old God will corrupt Azeroth". Now, this is all well and good to the lore, except for the fact that we have been doing a lot of Old God killing ourselves. Are these killings the reason for some of the major disasters to the world, such as the Cataclysm, or was the corruption that the Titans experienced just one big fluke, and a stroke of luck among the Old Gods? And, if this is the case, wouldn't that put us heroes at the forefront of most, if not all, of the disasters that befell Azeroth? I know the argument can be made that "we have to kill the Old Gods in their realm", but isn't Azeroth their realm, since that's where the Titans first found them and also killed their first Old God, or does the Old Gods' lore go far beyond the Titans' lore? I'm not sure if there are answers in the different books scattered around Azeroth, but I currently hold no subscription to WoW to find out. If you can't answer these questions, I will be happy to take them to the forums and see if any of the Blizz devs can help me with this conundrum. I just thought you would be the easiest person to get a hold of, at the current time. Thank you for your time, and thank you for the videos. I really enjoy them.
Almost every orc in orgrimmar was happy with garrosh's doing during the events of mop becouse that is what the 'orcish' horde is all about qonquering,killing so im pretty sure that orcs only would willingly join the iron horde .........
Hey Nobbel, I'm wondering, did Gul'Dan drink Mannoroth's blood as well? Or did he drink someone elses? I mean, since Mannoroth got killed, if he had drank his blood, wouldn't he return to normal?
Gul'dan one of the strongest warlocks ever died in the place where the strongest demon ever is buried (or part of him) i can see some thing happening there. Hopefully a brave Allince Knight will come be killed and Gul'dan will become an old timey Death Knight!
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well, you forgot one part. Gul'dan did manage to escape the Tomb of Sargares, he made his way to an inn, and is now playing cards with all who would be challengers.
Same with illidan!
Extraordinary.
So if Gul'dan highjacked all the Ogre Magi of the horde, since they were loyal to him anyway, instead of taking a handful of hapless grunts with him, and if he took Cho Gal with him instead of letting him guard the ship he would have most likely won that battle gotten the Eye of Sargeras and became even more powerful that ever before!!!
duuuude wtf lol at 2:25 the spikes in the background line up perfectly with the spikes on gul'dan's back haha anyone else notice that?
MrTab001 lol
Huh pretty cool
2:17 Guldan's spikes perfectly matched the background. Looks like guldan's thirst for power extends that of your video!
Those are the three thigns Gul'dan cares about: Power, more power, and screw whatever means it takes to get it.
you all have to listen to this guy on speed 0.5
Joash Grice he sounds stoned as fuck
Yolo Swag is stoned as fuck
Joash Grice Bwhahahahah sounds like I'm telling a story after a long night of drinking
Nobbel87 Try at 1.5 speed.
+Austin Powers 2 makes him sound like his just 2 mdma caps
I always felt that "darkness incarnate" part to be somewhat over the top. But since I saw the movie, I now understand. He really is ^^'
"Okay a number 1 combo large, and what would you like on your burger sir?"
Gul'dan: "Everything."
here i am giggling to 6 year old wow lore comment :--D
I wanna join The Iron horde. Think about it a Horde filled with Orc's never enslaved by the burning legion. Never under the leadership of Guldan and never had warlocks. That is the Horde i want to be in. FOR THE IRON HORDE!
Also a horde a horde founded on manipulation by Garrosh in his desire to kill everyone on Azeroth because, like a child, he didn't get his own way.
Yea i would help him invade azeroth if I could IRON HORDE ALL THE WAY
That's why was first excited for expansion when saying that we're about to meet all the warlords and then.. wait we're gonna fight them all but durotan? Psychness got sucked right out
young6777 yep... flatten those innocents! IN THE NAME OF FUTILE REVENGE!
YUP for the IRON HORDE THE TRUE HORDE!
Activate subtitle (english),
Go to 9:57,
Laugh hard
+WiDOC Oh... my...
Gul'dan seems to go by Cool Dan xD
jesus, Gul'dan in my mind is the most evil of the villans, he not only wants to destroy but manipulate and use people for his own ends. like some of the craziest where leaving the war in search of power knowing full well they would lose, or the breeding programs, and other stuff O.O
Yeah, it's been a while since I've seen a great villain in WoW. That's why I hope that Gul'dan survives the events of WoD and finds out a way to travel to our present timeline somehow and start messing with things there.
It would make sense if it was just the Champions and the alliance. This is no longer so because of garrisons Will be giving Champions their own armys, so it would be very hard to give a reason gul'dan would survive
Cho gall is even more badass betraying even gul dan he is crazy
Dreadnought D He's not nearly as evil as Sargeras
Looks like you guys predicted Legion.
This is really well researched and put together. I like how you used different media to keep the visuals going. Overall, amazing video
And what, Nobbel, must we give in return for this video?
...everything.
...20 minutes of your day.
John Doe Your brain.
A like and subscribe...
This is not his destiny!
GUL DAN WAS SO BADASS IN THE FILM
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He was, but he was also too passionate in my opinion. He is usually the guy in the shadows. The one that controls the situation, but is not right in the front. In the movie he was all like "You will obey me because Im powerful." Thats not how he usually goes. He is maybe one of the most powerful warlocks, but his best power is manipulation which goes along with clear mind. Not with this childish rage outbursts he showed in the movie.
The CGI though was...
He's a fucking dick with no honor
Yeah, that's Gul'Dan! He doesn't care about that kind of thing.
I am badass
Gul'Dan is a cheater.
:(
yea but blizzard wont perma-ban him...hes too important in warcraft
no im not!
Gul 'dan You absorbed souls instead of actually fighting your enemies.
+Akalioun OFFICIAL im too lazy and old to fight
Anyone else come here from the Warcraft movie?
Yup
...yup.
yup
YEP the only thing i didnt get was garona but now its clear
yup
If you don't have the 20min to watch all this vid, let me summarise.
The Story of Gul'Dan: Gul'Dan was a dick.
However, a dick that manipulates dark magic.
Eduardo Navarro
i have a dig bick
u that wrong read
u read that wrong too
read that again to ensure i'm not fucking with you
Your soul shall suffer lesser arrogant mortal!
ah, a perfect bed time story :)
Ikr same
yeah too bad it's narrated like shit
you never had to listen... and no one cares about your opinion
gul'dan is not only my favorite warcraft character..but one of my favorite charaters from all media
He's my favorite HS character and I love him
What an absolute perfect way of ending my evening! - WoW lore, BY NOBBEL, about what is probably one of my favorite characters :)
Blizz confirmed that the actions of Gul'dan and the Legion will be high for the last patch of WoD. Which makes me think that Gul'dan has something to do with Grom being the boss of this xpac.
It was said that the encounter will have a heavy Legion influence. Personally, I hope Grommash is barely part of the final encounter - or at least give us a real reason to fight him. There's no reason for him to be the final boss, especially when we've had a year of Garrosh and Blizz said they weren't going to go that way.
Grommash will not be the final boss. He'll be a patch boss for sure but there's no way it'll be so simple. Even in BC they knew that just Illidan wasn't enough, so we had an invasion by Kiljaeden. All sorts of things could happen, an invasion on Azeroth by the Naga, Sylvanas going crazy, the evil under Tirisfall showing itself, the Bronze Dragons becoming infinite, the alternate timeline's legion invading in Alternate Draenor, something involving Wrathion. There's a lot of potential above just stopping the Iron Horde.
+Awkward Squirtle like in my other comment - whilst I hope he isn't the final encounter, Tom Chilton confirmed that he was.
Kokainuser Or, sadly, he will be, like Tom Chilton said in an interview.
Kokainuser
i think it would be cool if WoD Gul'dan somehow comes into posession of the Skull of Gul'dan from our timeline, and finds out about the Tomb of Sargeras. with the additional knowledge, this time he is able to get the eye and sieze power for himself
Omg pause video at 2:35 then look at the horns coming out of Gul' dan's back and look how great they match up with the background.
w t f...good eye you got there buddy
This guy sounds like a draenei.
Could you do an Overview of the Human Kingdoms? Like talk about Kul Tiras and then Stormwind and so on? Please?
Sadly there is not much story behind most of them.
I know but it'd be awesome. Or maybe an overview of each factions as a whole, something like that.
pretty sure he talked about them in the story of warcraft (like 1 hour video)
Oh I know but more in depth rather then gloss over
From what I know about the lore of WoW, let me list all the Human Kingdoms that I know of and try to provide lore on them. Warning, this could be a very long comment.
Kingdom of Stormwind: The last standing human bastion of civilization. Home of the Alliance, where King Varian Wrynn leads the Alliance, with his son Anduin backing him up.
The lore of Stormwind City is quite lengthy, you can find the information easily on the internet.
Kingdom of Lordaeron: Former home of the Alliance of Lordaeron, now fallen into shambles because of Arthas Menethil's meddling. It is now the home of the Forsaken, where they skulk around in the dark and wet sewer system beneath the former capital city.
Kingdom of Stromgarde: Technically part of the Kingdom of Lordaeron, but has fallen into disrepair due to bandits and marauders. This Kingdom used to oversee their land of Arathi Highlands and Hillsbrad Foothills.
Kingdom of Gilneas: The Gilnean people walled themselves off from the rest of civilization due to the threat of the Plague spreading throughout northern Lordaeron during the 3rd war. The Greymane Wall was shattered during the Shattering (The Cataclysm) and the Feral Worgen that lived in Silverpine Forest flooded in and started the epidemic that turned Gilneans into Worgen.
These are all the Kingdoms that I know of, however, there are still some important cities where Humans lived and were part of a Kingdom. These are:
Stratholme City: Part of the Kingdom of Lordaeron. Stratholme was the first place where the Plague was documented to start, with the help of Mal'Ganis the Dreadlord. Arthas Menethil, who was trying to stop the Plague at the time, purged the city of all the sick and ill, before setting sail to Northrend to track down Mal'Ganis and finish the fight.
Durnhold Keep: Part of the Kingdom of Stromgarde, Kingdom of Lordaeron. A place where Orcish prisoners were kept, awaiting execution. Thrall was being held here and with the help of the Bronze Dragonflight, you free Thrall, and help him continue on this way to become the Warchief of the Horde.
My favourite Warlord is actually Grommash Hellscream.
Same
Me2
Why though? Gul' Dan made Grommash, his clan, and the rest of the orcs his bitch. Conquered a planet. Is the most powerful warlock in existence. Grom has....a named axe.
Nekross
And the fact that he killed Mannoroth and saved the Orcs in Regin of Chaos is irrelevant right?
Lillie Craft Yes it is irrelevant, since he was the first one to drink the blood and fuck his race in the first place. They wouldn't need saved if not for him.
My favorite characters in WOW are Medivh and Gul'dan, both awesome characters who changed the world(s) forever.
15:34 to this day. i think that rune looks like the symbol on the door tot he woman's public bathrooms.
great video. great explanations.
2:17 my OCD is pleased that you matched the spikes in Gul'dan's picture with the ones in blade's edge
Gul'dan, the worst pitch man in orc history. "You'll gain super duper bad ass powers, for the low low cost of....EVERYTHING!!"
this has to be updated imo lol
Your lore is legend...I will enjoy changing it!
Damn you Kel'thuzad!We've killed you 3 times,STAY DEAD!
+Arthas Menethil Would have made more sense if I was still called Gul'dan.
One of the best parts of a Sunday. sitting down of a evening with a cup of tea loading a new video and hearing "Hello everyone"
Gul'dan is my favorite warlord too especially for his warlock appearance. Will we get to see how he was contact by the burning legion in warlords of draenor as the timeline is different to the original time line where he took over Nerzul? And so you think we will see that it will be Archimond or Kiljaden that first contacted Gul'dan? Also, i may be so bold, is there any war gear similar to Gul'dan, like the skull spikes on his back or the chains on his robes?
Also, i think you are an amazing lore-master or Lorewalker ^^ for warcraft
nice work, my favorite is Nerzhul, still cant wait to see what will happen with Guldan, he is beyond interesting and can do so much evil things.
This is f*cking awesome!
Why is Thrall blue if his parents Kel'thuzad and Neltharion refused the blood of Hogger?
Because Kel'thuzad has been around Scourge magic, duh
GOSH! Finally! Nobbel, please do more videos like this! I know WoD is very important but.. you know I really love how to storytell us these lores! Always rooting for you Nobbel!
Love the lore, you cover alot of information. Gul'dan was purely greedy & he was his own undoing
Hello everyone!!! ^^ - each video :P very cute :D
What is the favourite place of Gul'dan? The zoo. (hs players will get the joke :P)
Anyone else notice the conveniently placed spikes behind gul'dan's picture at 2:25 ?
With the next expansion looming, rewatching some of this...
_Whatever happened to Medivh?_ That's the last we've seen of Sargeras' soul.
Maybe he possessed Med'an after that so we finally get to kill him!
Wow, really well made video Nobbel, kudos!
Guys, is there a video in the channel for the story of Gul Dan during and after the WOD? Thank you
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As i remember Guldan was in flesh and bones in forgotten islands, the last expansion of WoW. He even interracted with some important characters (spoilers off for readers) Did he came back from death not just as a spirit? what am i missing?
nobbel ur vids are too good to be true! keep up with the good quality! greetings from peru
Im surprised this story wasn't on your list of the first must do lores but i am happy to know a bit more about the monster that gave illidan his demonic powers
Pretty much the single most evil character in the franchise, and that includes dudes like Sargeras, at least he has a guiding belief in what he sees as the failure of the Titans order as his core reason for his great evil. Gul'dan just wanted personal power, and everything he ever did was in persuit of that, his desires were 100% self-centered and he was just completely selfish. As long as he got his power he didn't care at all what happened to the Orcs.
Love watching your videos Nobbel. Where do those WoW comics come from that you use as slides?
The manga-like comics are from Udon.
Where can I download / read them?
Not sure, oddly enough I can't find the WoW 'mangas' in Udon's web store. Maybe the license expired? Try eBay.
Rey Arocha
Or piratebay, I found them on there. But weather I downloaded it is another matter, illegal an all that stuff ya know. "inconspicuous eye roll"
Bruno's Geek Reviews i found one at barnes and noble recently but otherwise it does look like they cant sell them on the Udon's web store
Omg thanks ur awesome im learning Everydays with ur video the lore of wow is totally fantastic
Apparently you aren't learning English.
dont have to speak correcly for understand. is awesome thank to him for is awesome video
The Godlygamer what's your problem?
The Godlygamer
A typical ignorant moron.
The Godlygamer no english is just not my primary language sorry if i offence you. but you are out of the topic. im just saying nobble do an awesome job ^.^
Warcraft has way to much lore to be left as an underwhelming MMO.
They need to make World of Warcraft 2. Build it from the ground up instead of expanding it.
yay more videos from Nobbel! my favorite History teacher xD
Another great video. Thank you for all the hard work and research you do to spread the lore of Warcraft, It is very much appreciated.
aaaaaaaaaaaaand i have to change my underwear! soo epic much spluge wow
verry verry epic!
This is a great video I just find the accent kinda annoying
Poor Orcs. If fucking Velen never came to Draenor, that would still be a lovely world and orcs would live as they were before.
Velen didn't want to at first. He had to land the Exodar on Draenor, after the Naaru Ku're got sick and couldn't steer the ship any longer. The Draenai then had to rebuild their lives on Draenor, and reconstruct their dead society alongside the orcs. If you want to blame anybody, blame Archimonde and Kil'Jaden for joining Sargaeres even after Velen told them not to.
You are a 250,000 year old prophet who lives a peaceful life on a peaceful planet with your content people and two younger brorhers. Suddenly your brothers sign a pact with a DEMON TITAN against your will and raise an a demon army to destroy your civilization and murder you in cold blood.You lament and weep for many days, overcome by grief and loss. Suddenly you come face to face with a godlike creature, that fills your lonely study with blinding lights and sweet music, who be stills the sweet taste of hope after your many days of you grieving the loss of your brothers. He tells you to go to the highest mountain on your planet, along with your people, and meet him there again on the longest day of the year. You quickly gather your faithful people, and preach to them what words of wisdom the creature told you. Your people understand you and reject the vile influence of Sargaeres and his followers. When the day draws, you gather your bearings and muster your people and head to the highest mountain peak on your home planet. Shortly after arriving, you are beset by all sides by your enemies, the peak about to be taken by The Sargaerai. Your followers cower and cry in panic. "Mighty prophet!" They cry, " Too long have we known peace ! We have never seen such evil before. Pray almighty prophet, how will we defend ourselves? We are not warriors, nor can we fight." You look into the sky with tears overflowing your eyes, your old heart heavy and your mind distraught. You pray for the godly creature to come save your people " Ku're, help us..."
All of a sudden the mountain bathes in a blinding light, your enemies not able to advance. Tears of sadness become tears of joy and relief as you gaze upon the majestic godlike creature, who as promised, come to save you and your people. He summons forth a mighty vessel, of which you have never seen before; a vessel big enough to carry your entire civilization to safety. The Naaru Ku're tells you that your home planet is dead, and that your only hope us escaping the Legion. He gestures for you and your people to get onto the ship, while he takes you away from this dying place, towards other planets that you may attempt to rebuild your shattered lives.
You keep this fugitive charade with the Legion. Trying to find a planet to colonize, and escaping frantically when they find you. Until one day, you sense your ship lagging, slowing down. You ask the Naaru Ku're what is wrong. With a heavy voice, he tells you he is gravely ill, and can no longer pilot the Exodar. You nod with a heavy heart, pitying the noble creature that had been trying soo hard to protect you from evil. You nod, as he changes trajectories, landing on Draenor, which would later become your new home. Was it really Velen's fault for all these mess ups?
Every action has a result. Often its not what you expect. He tried desperately to save his people, but doing so he brought destruction over other people. You cant blame him. It is what it is. Thats how it goes in real life as well.
Velen never wanted to hurt anybody. I agree that his course of actions following the Naaru Ku're were inevitably destructive, but the Sargaerai didn't give him alot of options. Don't forget that it was Velen that brought the SunWell back to the Blood Elves(along with Muruu), and created the Shatari and Aldor factions after Shattrah City was restored.
I guess you are all right. I'm a big fan of Orcs and it was really painful to see them suffer. :'( Especially Durotan and Frostwolf clan.
Maybe someone can answer this, or even you Nobbel.
What the hell is fel iron? I have never had much insight on it. Is it like Saronite? The blood of Yogg Saron?
Since Draenor was corrupted by the fel magic, I assume it's just normal iron that has been corrupted by said fel magic
Do Malfurion lore PLEASE i want to know why and how he was trapped in the emerald dream and why he grew horns and feathers in there
lothar13PL horns and feathers are because he’s a Druid and the rest you can learn in game if you do the moonwell quests in the nelf starting area
You can learn a lot of the story through Classic WoW.
So Gul"dan was very powerful himself. So I wonder what kind of powerful demons/guardians of the tomb actually killed him
sarageras is the destroyer of worlds
Why are you speaking in plural all of the time?
I think some of these stories are gonna make it into the warcraft movie especially the ones with Medivh
you add s to the end of alot of words that dont need/have that letter at the end.
like blackhand not blackhands. horde not hordes. word not words. red not reds. Stormwind not Stormwinds.
It's probably his accent.
Why do you roll almost all of your rs? Kinda makes it hard to watch you.
It's his Dutch accent
+Iridae I've never heard other Dutch people roll rs but I've watched so much I've pretty much gotten used to it.
There's two things on this earth that I can't stand: (1) people who are intolerant of other people's cultures and (2) the dutch.
Did you like the film? :]
I did. With all his flaws I like what they did. It looks like a great start of something magnificent. I really hope they will fix the mistakes they did in this first movie in the next movies though.
I agree as well. I also hope they won't follow books closely (when it comes to Tides of Darkness at least). That would be brain damage!
I hear nothing but good things. Which is crazy seeing as it's a video game movie. They never do good.
Well, this is blizzard. I'm sure they wouldn't let them to make shit film. :D
Nobbel: I might not be able to tell you everything
Gul'dan: EVERYTHING
you have a thick accent with all your rolling "R"s...what is your nationality?
Dutch
What's the name of the comic shown at 9:38 ???
I do not understand a word on the video! My primary language is not English, but I understand usually 90% of the videos in English! And the thing is I was excited to get the full story of Gul'dan! I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I'm trying to give you a positive feedback! :D
Peace!
I am turkish and i can assure you mate in turkey english education is not that good in schools. so i agree his accent is diffrent but i do understand him im not here to judge you but there is no man that can tell you these stories better than nobbel im glad we have him
Its his voice, and im sure he wont change it :P
Dear Nobbel do you know why theres Ashran i thought Horde and Aliance where at peace after the Siege of Orgrimar, at first I thought that the Aliance will blame the Horde for setting Garrosh free but after reading War Crimes I highly doubt that.
I`ve you know why I would be realy thankful if you could tell me.
The Siege brought an end to open war, so you won't see huge campaigns like in the Southern Barrens, Silverpine or Stonetalon Mountains storylines. Now its back to the way it was before the Wrathgate incident: a cold war. While the leaders may want peace, there are so many on both sides who hate the other that conflict is inevitable, but only on smaller scale skirmishes. Ergo, Ashran and the battlegrounds.
LordManda2
Theres still no reason for open combat exept of course popular demands and stuff
"I greet you".
Awesomely telled... Mad thumbs up! You have more lore storys? If not plz do some! Great!!
Hey Nobbel, what faction will you be playing this exp? Since it's Horde focused once again, I expect you'll be on Horde? I wish Alliance had such story lines.
No he's alliance gameplay.
ahm, just because we keep killing orcs it doesnt mean that its Horde based storyline.
I'm mostly just a hearthstone player but I've always liked WOW lore.
Guys, i have a question, i thought that grommash hellscream didn't agree to drink the fel or that green blood and threw gul'dan's cup on the ground.... Why did nobbel say that he was the first one who drank that?
I hope you will answer... Thank you!
That's the alternative timeline were garrosh goes back in time to convince his father not to
+Kevin Newby Thanks a lot man, I really appreciate it...and OMG this lore is so complicated =))
Man, if you didn't know that then I guess none of WoD made sense to you, did it?
I love these lore stories that you do. Do you know why the elder's on the wandering isles place there staffs into the ground creating a forest of staffs?
can some1 tell me please the warcraft books in a chronicle sequence
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"Hey Gul'dan, what did you have to sacrifice for that shiny new BMW?,
Everything..."
Whats with the accent ?
"Andy Reddick ate them once and for all" damn these english subs are messed up xD
Wait so you are nobble the noble?
The final raid, could be if Guldan claimed the eye, it would be awesome.
wait wait wait wait i thought Grommash Hellscream didn't drink the blood because in the cinematic he doesn't drink because he not want to be a slave.
cinematic of Warlord of Draenor (WoD)
ye... but he drink blood in warcraft 3 campaing.. play it
I can't keep myself from repeating "Heeello everyone" with you everytime
That snake photobomb tho at 9:03
Hell scream was the first to accept the gift? I thought Hellscream poured it out after Gul'dan told him he had to give everything...then Hellscream used his axe to slice Mannoroth right in the skull.
That was when Garrosh traveled back in time and told Grommash not to take it. That was WoD.
It would be cool if the skull of Gul'dan had a similar effect to the Lich King's crown or even Frostmourne. When you have it in your possession you will here the whispers of the spirit within the object. Perhaps whoever has the skull of Gul'dan will here his whispers, creating a second lich king. Or something like that.
**hear
Gul'dan was not killed by Sargeras in the tombs as WIII says...
He was murdered, judged by betrayal, after escaping the tombs, by Doomhammer's troops .
This is also the main reason why the Horde didnt won the Great Second War... they were splitted in two big factions... guldan's ands doomhammer's forces.
Seeing an opportunity on that, the Alliance striked first, before they could be restored after that rag-tag. And then the portal was destroyed only because that.
Blizzard managed to erase an rewrite the true story of WarCraftII
Have all the good WoW villains died? I feel like since Cataclysm all the villains have been evil just because. Without any good motivation behind it whatsoever. Deathwing got corrupted by an elder god, yet we see none of that transformation. Garrosh got crazy because of terrible writing on Blizzard's side. I mean how the hell does he transform overnight from, Honor Krom'gar never abandon it and Sylvanas you're a bitch into IMMA NUKE ALL OF THE BASES, THRALL THIS IS YOUR FAULTTTT YOU LEFT ME AT THE ALTARR OR SOMETHING (capslock to punctuate Garrosh's new child like personality). And now we got a ton of orcs, of the MURDER EVERYTHING THAT MOVES variety. It makes me miss the good villains.
Few things in this world are more buttery than "Heeeeello everyone" and the rolling of the letter R.
Yey new video :P)
Something is weird for me. Thrall became Warchief after second invasion (right?) so how could Cho'Gall knew about him after assassinating Llane Wrynn? Thrall's parents werent dead yet so is it messed up or i just don't know everything? Sorry for my English, hope someone will answer me :)
17:11 - Did Gul'dan just threaten *SARGERAS*, Creator of the Burning Legion?! I'm sorry, but that's hilarious. Gul'dan ain't got SHIT on Sargeras.
Something that is not touched on here that is fairly important in defense of Ner'zhul; he was tricked. He had visions of his dead wife Rulkan, controlled by Kil'jaeden. He often communed with her prior to the arrival of Kil'jaeden's trickery. Seeing this vision, when visions of ancestors were typically trusted, Ner'zhul believed that combating the Dreanei was a correct action. He only learned of the deceit after it was too late. You can read about this in Rise of the Horde, by Christie Golden.
Plot Twist: Future expansion pack we actually go to the tomb and uses the eye of Sargeras in order to get to the home land of Sargeras' army and we wipe out the demonic force to the extent where barely any demons exist but Sargeras takes a flee to another planet that was conquered. With a ton of Titan lore to show, that he had returned to some awkward shadow planet that was created where the old gods orginally formed and long the way. We learn that Arcane magic is truly the basic of the whole story line of World of Warcraft (as if we didnt know already). Showing that it could be used in a Morally good sense (Naruu) and a Morally impure sense (Demons). And in the truth of reality of it, the Arcane magic is good nor evil (think about it Arcane magic drives their user crazy over time and needing more, but is useful when a time of need, Khadgar can be an example.)
Kidding this probably wont happen but I can at least see they'll split up the potential "Burning Legion" expansion to two parts other than just making it one. I mean it would be too much for one expansion pack for that to occur.
Nobbel87 I know this has nothing to do with this particular video, but it's been something that's been scratching at the back of my mind for the longest time. I'm new to your channel and have just recently caught up on all your lore videos. One thing I keep hearing when the Titans are mentioned is that "killing an Old God will corrupt Azeroth". Now, this is all well and good to the lore, except for the fact that we have been doing a lot of Old God killing ourselves. Are these killings the reason for some of the major disasters to the world, such as the Cataclysm, or was the corruption that the Titans experienced just one big fluke, and a stroke of luck among the Old Gods? And, if this is the case, wouldn't that put us heroes at the forefront of most, if not all, of the disasters that befell Azeroth?
I know the argument can be made that "we have to kill the Old Gods in their realm", but isn't Azeroth their realm, since that's where the Titans first found them and also killed their first Old God, or does the Old Gods' lore go far beyond the Titans' lore? I'm not sure if there are answers in the different books scattered around Azeroth, but I currently hold no subscription to WoW to find out.
If you can't answer these questions, I will be happy to take them to the forums and see if any of the Blizz devs can help me with this conundrum. I just thought you would be the easiest person to get a hold of, at the current time.
Thank you for your time, and thank you for the videos. I really enjoy them.
Gul'dan is probably the biggest asshole in Warcraft. Every other villain you can make a case for if you stretch things far enough, can't with Gul'dan.
I don't even play WoW and love your lore videos.
Almost every orc in orgrimmar was happy with garrosh's doing during the events of mop becouse that is what the 'orcish' horde is all about qonquering,killing so im pretty sure that orcs only would willingly join the iron horde .........
Hey Nobbel, I'm wondering, did Gul'Dan drink Mannoroth's blood as well? Or did he drink someone elses? I mean, since Mannoroth got killed, if he had drank his blood, wouldn't he return to normal?
Gul'dan one of the strongest warlocks ever died in the place where the strongest demon ever is buried (or part of him) i can see some thing happening there. Hopefully a brave Allince Knight will come be killed and Gul'dan will become an old timey Death Knight!
4:51 Love that voice!!!
Hi Nobbel. I don't understand the similarities between Teron Gorefiend in The Black Temple and Gorefiend in Hellfire Citadel. Can you explain that? :D