Thanks for these - I remember watching the early 90s ones as a teenager. I started watching these randomly here, but then realised it made more sense to watch them in sequence! So I've got a lot to get through. Much better than fictional drama (although frequently so sad...).
Great old programme. Used to be allowed to stay up and watch this with my folks back in the 80s. Dad's sadly gone a few years now, but Mum's enjoying watching these again. The reconstructions I always found a bit creepy at times. Nick Ross and Sue Cook were great presenters I thought. Brilliant memories watching these. Many thanks redcard.
Like Jill Dando said you have to worry about the mentality of some of the people who could do these crimes. You could be sitting next to one on the bus or in your office and never know.
I’ve always wished that I could travel back in time and stop the murders happening!! Especially the children murdered. Such a shame that it isn’t possible!!
It is still on, but it's very different because the world is very different. You have to remember that this was getting on for half a century ago now. So many of the crimes they were appealling for information on would be solved now in a day or two. CCTV is everywhere now, phones give location data and message history, and DNA technology is a million times better. There's just no need now for police to make as many appeals for witnesses now like they did in the 1980s.
most crimes now are done by blacks or south asians so they womt show it because all the faces woukld be brown and that would be waycist to the left wing bbc
Those poor dogs having to witness Caroline being murdered. Poor woman, RIP. I can't believe her killer is out and free, the murdering tosser should rot
nice comment @@Peter-ix1ym. Minder was an 9pm ITV1 midweek slot for an hour and Crime Watch was live after main evening News & Weather on BBC1 but please forgive me for embellishing the story as I don't really know if Terry & Arthur were 'on the other side of the box'. I'm just trying to lighten the mood after learning so much about society from these macabre recordings from my youth which sincerely left an indelible mark but one for which I'm grateful and thankful to be able relive again here. Thanks!
Depends where you are in the country! Much of the 80s though was characterised by industrial dereliction, especially in those former industrial areas. It was literally wasteland that had been taken back by nature. You can see in the video just what it was like. Old, abandoned industrial buildings and overgrown wasteland.
The UK had the highest level of violent crime in Europe in the 1980s. It was a fairly grim decade in many ways. Massive unemployment, grey, run down dereliction of old industrial areas. People used to drink a lot more then too, and that was a major cause of the violence
From the New York Times 29 July 1984: "Two workmen making a routine inspection of an isolated water substation Friday stumbled across $6.6 million worth of silver and heirlooms stolen last March from Woburn Abbey, the Duke of Bedford's stately home, about 20 miles away, the police said today. The police said today that ''all of the property stolen as a result of the burglary has now been discovered'' and that they were seeking a man. They refused to disclose any other details."
Crimewatch is such good social history. Scary to think this is pretty much nearer in time to world war 2 than it is to now. It captures the 80s so well. A world of silent streets unless the kids were out after school, "stranger danger", dogs left to roam estates, lots of dereliction and waste ground where factories had been demolished. Local pubs filled with cigarette smoke that had to close by law during the afternoon, not always much else to do at night apart from TV and rented videos if you could afford a video player. All mixed in with the UK having the highest level of violent crime in Europe during the 80s.
It wasn't till the late 80s (earliest) that Britain started splashing some money about (no doubt due to the end of the Cold War). New Labour from 1997 *really* did started going overboard with it! And then the internet came which saw the decline of the high street tackled with no-council vision, high rates of immigration whilst giving these people no real places to live, split/clashing interests in mainstream politics (Brexit, growth vs austerity, the NHS/Covid fallout, Ukraine, Scottish independence/UK devolution/London-centricity etc). *Everything* goes in cycles in Merrie ole' England, don't they? 😁 *What a envy* to the real of the world will must be!!!!!!!!
33.20 - one of the customers made a dash for it, but apparently didn't call the police, resulting in a 2 hour ordeal for the poor sods who weren't able to escape.
Seems it was unrelated and her death was a case of being in the wrong place, wrong time. The murderer, Paul Bostock, was 19 at the time and seemingly very messed up mentally. He also murdered another woman.
Did the Liverpool armed pub robbers ever get caught? In those days, it seemed much easier to smuggle in firearms into both banks and public houses. Lack of CCTV, I suppose. With victims having to identify culprits with just description and then faulty photofits.
People used cash so much more back then (most people for paid every week in cash), so there was so much more of it to rob. It was a bit of a boom business for Gagsters. Britain also had the highest rate of violent crime in europe back then. Huge levels of unemployment, so lots of people turning to crime of one type or another. "Boys from the Black Stuff" is the famous TV series that depicted Liverpool in the 80s. Poverty, unemployment and a lot of desperation. There were riots in several big cities in the 80s, in protest at the desperation people had.
The two guys that robbed the bank, did you notice the curly brown hair that looks like a wig and the moustache lol he’s an exact match from the guy who robbed the security guards that collect the money. That dude don’t mess around, he’s all over the place lol
I love the UK! Id love to live there. Escape the US and surround myself with beautiful landscapes and listen to everyones soothing accents. He had a snub nose? I didnt know those existed. Wonder what a snub nose would look like. We call rude & stuck up ppl snub nosed in US
Fairplay for appreciating the landscapes and accents amongst such macabre subject matter! Our countries aren't so different. Same pockets of vile people in corners of our societies. Human nature. Have always loved this program. Scared the hell out of me as a kid, Nick Ross's narration still gives me slight chills. Many chills still etched from 1980's nostalgia :D
US had horrendous murders between the late 1950s and late 1990s rapes and murders the likes of ted Bundy and many many more thank goodness only 1 percent of the killers were Muslim in US between that era
ASMRtist Carla i love how you’re watching a show about UK murders, robberies and rapes and you’re thinking “that looks lovely, i want to live there” lmao
I would say they robbed the stuff to order. I can’t see them stealing it without having a buyer lined up. I would have thought that it would be very hard to try and hawk that stuff around various antique dealers, 2nd hand shops and pawn brokers. Too distinctive as well.
Very brave to hold onto the money by the security guard in Guildford but also very stupid. Not worth possibly getting shot and either injured or killed for someone else’s money, that’s normally insured anyway. It’s one thing putting yourself at risk trying to save someone’s life but for money?? Forget it.
Especially multi-millionaires like Sainsburys ............................. At least £500,000 million profit every year. Look what they pay their staff.
@@MM0SDK Solved. In June 1986, Paul Kenneth Bostock was convicted of Caroline Osborne's murder, as well that of Amanda Weedon in 1985. He was jailed for life.
I can sort of understand so called crimes of passion and rage.But to actively go out and kill a stranger stilll baffles me today and im 50 years.of age and been a follower of crime ever since i started reading murder casebook magazines in the mid 1980s as a teenager
Thanks for these - I remember watching the early 90s ones as a teenager. I started watching these randomly here, but then realised it made more sense to watch them in sequence! So I've got a lot to get through. Much better than fictional drama (although frequently so sad...).
Enjoy.
The fact that the dog sat there with the body to guard and look after her is so wholesome 🧡. Rip Caroline 💚.
Her killer went on to murder another woman in the local area. He’s safe to be out now.
Caroline's murderer murdered another woman soon after but was released in 2020.
And Caroline's dog ran home to raise the alarm 😭 Dogs are so amazing!! Just gave my boy a big hug!
Great old programme. Used to be allowed to stay up and watch this with my folks back in the 80s. Dad's sadly gone a few years now, but Mum's enjoying watching these again. The reconstructions I always found a bit creepy at times. Nick Ross and Sue Cook were great presenters I thought. Brilliant memories watching these. Many thanks redcard.
Programme really scared me more than horror movies.
Yeah the artists impressions are creepy looking, and the crimes feel too close for comfort in this small country of ours🇬🇧👍
Please, don't have nightmares.
👍
Spot on use to all ways tell people this
Like Jill Dando said you have to worry about the mentality of some of the people who could do these crimes. You could be sitting next to one on the bus or in your office and never know.
So the murderer of Caroline was caught and he’d had already killed another women as well. He’s now 53 and released from prison 😡😡😡
Insane.
Name?
Bring back the Rope
@@neilt4723 paul bostock
He killed the other one afterwards.Still shouldnt be free.He killed twice so should have stayed in for the rest of his life
Loving these old Crimewatch episodes (despite the topic). Please upload more if you have them.
I’ve always wished that I could travel back in time and stop the murders happening!! Especially the children murdered. Such a shame that it isn’t possible!!
Stick to making cakes
@@brianfitzpatrick9897 on your bike.
You'd have to be brave to mess about with psychopaths
These are quality. Thank you.
New old crimewatch uploaded, oh yes sir I can boogie and watch it all day....
The ‘Fox’ was Malcolm Fairly who was apprehended and given 6 life sentences for his crimes....
Just googled him, he died in prison yesterday.
Thanks for uploading
The phrase " biggest ever stamp theft " Just made me laugh for some reason
some stamps are extremely valuable
They even came out with the pun "keep you posted" - (to coin a phrase)
I knew some 1 who had a few sacks of tv gas electric and co-op stamps that hadn't been stamped
Used 2 love this as a kid!!but would always check under my bed b4 i went 2 sleep after watching!!!cant believe how quickly the years go by
Especially with some of the 80s and 90s reconstructions, they were sinister af
I daren’t look under my bed … it’s a special kind of horror story in and of itself. 🙈
I was 8 when this first aired im 44 now and watched almost all of these from about 87 wow I wish this was still going
It is
Pretty much the same as me and the same age! Can’t get enough of these old episodes.
It is still on, but it's very different because the world is very different. You have to remember that this was getting on for half a century ago now. So many of the crimes they were appealling for information on would be solved now in a day or two. CCTV is everywhere now, phones give location data and message history, and DNA technology is a million times better. There's just no need now for police to make as many appeals for witnesses now like they did in the 1980s.
@@zeddeka As well as all this, LOADS of crimes remain unsolved ................
most crimes now are done by blacks or south asians so they womt show it because all the faces woukld be brown and that would be waycist to the left wing bbc
Those poor dogs having to witness Caroline being murdered. Poor woman, RIP. I can't believe her killer is out and free, the murdering tosser should rot
I feel so brave watching this, the last time was from behind mam's couch with the remote control flicking intermittently to Minder.
You had a remote control back then? Posh :)
Nothing wrong with minder the best show ever
nice comment @@Peter-ix1ym. Minder was an 9pm ITV1 midweek slot for an hour and Crime Watch was live after main evening News & Weather on BBC1 but please forgive me for embellishing the story as I don't really know if Terry & Arthur were 'on the other side of the box'. I'm just trying to lighten the mood after learning so much about society from these macabre recordings from my youth which sincerely left an indelible mark but one for which I'm grateful and thankful to be able relive again here. Thanks!
@@Peter-ix1ym I even enjoyed Minder after Terry had emigrated to Australia 🇦🇺 and Ray arrived. The Shane Ritchie series however wasn’t the same
My apologies for the late reply, I agree entirely my friend
I love them describing the efit creator as a 'magic pen'.
I was struck by the sound of all the birds chirping in the first reconstruction and realised that you don't really hear that these days.
Depends where you are in the country! Much of the 80s though was characterised by industrial dereliction, especially in those former industrial areas. It was literally wasteland that had been taken back by nature. You can see in the video just what it was like. Old, abandoned industrial buildings and overgrown wasteland.
Where do you live that you don't............
I like to hear the birds as the sun comes up
They're baby chicks chirping this reconstruction was made in May or June.
Wow!!!I thought exactly the same!!
Man im shocked at the vile types of crimes going on the UK in the 80s having watched a few of these
There's more these days by the establishment but it's covered up
@@Alessiasbackheal paranoid bollocks. The UK had the highest level of violent crime in Europe in the 1980s
The UK had the highest level of violent crime in Europe in the 1980s. It was a fairly grim decade in many ways. Massive unemployment, grey, run down dereliction of old industrial areas. People used to drink a lot more then too, and that was a major cause of the violence
But pop music was a lot better in the 80’s than now
Yea you would have thought only brown and black ppl commit crime
I would love to know if the Guildford Sainsburys robbery was ever caught. Guildford is my hometown and I was 12 at the time.
Nick Owen and sue Cook was the best presenters of crimewatch.
Or even Nick Ross.
Fiona Bruce ❤👩🏻🦱
31:23, the hoodlums of this crime are brutal. Put them away and throw away the key!!
From the New York Times 29 July 1984: "Two workmen making a routine inspection of an isolated water substation Friday stumbled across $6.6 million worth of silver and heirlooms stolen last March from Woburn Abbey, the Duke of Bedford's stately home, about 20 miles away, the police said today. The police said today that ''all of the property stolen as a result of the burglary has now been discovered'' and that they were seeking a man. They refused to disclose any other details."
Nick ross would say today..dont bother ringing the police they dont give a flying fuck 😂
"holiday of a lifetime". Another phrase that people don't use anymore.
I do I’m skint, I’d love a holiday
Prison is apparently an option.
The section on videofits goes on a bit. Nick rather undercuts it when he points out how unreliable this sort of evidence is.
That cop David Hatcher is my type of man! 😍 He looks lovely and has a lovely soothing voice.
Right that’s it I’m going to try and copy Hatcher
When he says Moo-stosh 🥰🥰🥰🥰
@@Compleme_Cunmmost working class people said moo stosh back then - I still do!
@@AndyPandy-sj9bl Keep up the noble tradition
@@AndyPandy-sj9blDo you say sideboards as well instead of sideburns? 😅
Crimewatch is such good social history. Scary to think this is pretty much nearer in time to world war 2 than it is to now. It captures the 80s so well. A world of silent streets unless the kids were out after school, "stranger danger", dogs left to roam estates, lots of dereliction and waste ground where factories had been demolished. Local pubs filled with cigarette smoke that had to close by law during the afternoon, not always much else to do at night apart from TV and rented videos if you could afford a video player. All mixed in with the UK having the highest level of violent crime in Europe during the 80s.
Good call on the dogs, I remember stray dogs in the late 80s
Very evocative! My abiding memory of the 80s is that sludgy brown colour palette...
You are talking about 1949.after the war.
It wasn't till the late 80s (earliest) that Britain started splashing some money about (no doubt due to the end of the Cold War). New Labour from 1997 *really* did started going overboard with it! And then the internet came which saw the decline of the high street tackled with no-council vision, high rates of immigration whilst giving these people no real places to live, split/clashing interests in mainstream politics (Brexit, growth vs austerity, the NHS/Covid fallout, Ukraine, Scottish independence/UK devolution/London-centricity etc). *Everything* goes in cycles in Merrie ole' England, don't they? 😁 *What a envy* to the real of the world will must be!!!!!!!!
33.20 - one of the customers made a dash for it, but apparently didn't call the police, resulting in a 2 hour ordeal for the poor sods who weren't able to escape.
33.47 they caught him before he got out the door, and brought him back.
Thanks for uploading do u have any other episodes?
Yes, I will try to upload over the next few days.
excellent uploads!
I love c/w thank you redcard74 and futureisgosub for your uploads
What a dog to sit there all night the other go back home so sad rip 🙏🏾🙏🏾😢
Yeah her dog went home, that's pretty shocking. You'd think it was her own dog that would stay
@@wrghtyno. Her dog went and got the attention it needed to get while the other dog sat with her.
@@reajo622exactly!! That was fantastic pack work! Dogs are so amazing!!!
That's Barry from brookside. Hey call down fella I've dropped the money and me syrup has nearly fallen off lad.
13:16 - I’m sooooo pleased that guns are now banned in the U.K. without a licence. Next thing to regulate is the sale of knives and acid products
Yes - _now_ they're in the hands of those trying to oppress us.
Liberating defencelessness.
'come on ya friggin divvies!' - scallies never change!
I have to admit, I didn’t know CCTV cameras existed in the 1980s. I didn’t know any cameras like that had even been invented.
Excellent please add more episodes if you can
Did they make that model just for Crimewatch? Very impressive!
The Drink would have made those guys more aggressive. They were later caught very sadistic treating people like they did in that pub.
Did anyone find out what the deal is with Caroline's blue van? ...
Seems it was unrelated and her death was a case of being in the wrong place, wrong time. The murderer, Paul Bostock, was 19 at the time and seemingly very messed up mentally. He also murdered another woman.
@@zeddeka yet he’s safe to be out now
@@zeddekaNo, the scumbag who murdered Caroline was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
24:43 alright alright calm down calm down
🔔end
How we have Google maps street view on our finger tips that can locate you to the crime scenes the technology from then to now is mind blowing
Was the Guilford derby day robber ever caught ?
Did the Liverpool armed pub robbers ever get caught? In those days, it seemed much easier to smuggle in firearms into both banks and public houses. Lack of CCTV, I suppose. With victims having to identify culprits with just description and then faulty photofits.
They did get caught and got some long stretches. They mention it in a later programme before another violent robbery appeal
Smack heads maybe?? I would have them as drug addicts.
yes in the August 1984 edition they say their names.
People used cash so much more back then (most people for paid every week in cash), so there was so much more of it to rob. It was a bit of a boom business for Gagsters. Britain also had the highest rate of violent crime in europe back then. Huge levels of unemployment, so lots of people turning to crime of one type or another. "Boys from the Black Stuff" is the famous TV series that depicted Liverpool in the 80s. Poverty, unemployment and a lot of desperation. There were riots in several big cities in the 80s, in protest at the desperation people had.
@@zeddeka Before there was such an thing as "card payment" and "online banking".
Anyone know if the Sainsbury attempted robbery was ever solved?
I hope the dogs are/were ok ...😢
40 years on … ?
Paul bostock murdered Caroline Osborne and two years later killed amanda Weedon
he should never have been let out of prison!!! that is no justice for taking the lives of two people..unbelievable..
Allowed out because of his ‘good behaviour’. A sick joke.
@@LANCSKID crazy isn't it😔
The two guys that robbed the bank, did you notice the curly brown hair that looks like a wig and the moustache lol he’s an exact match from the guy who robbed the security guards that collect the money. That dude don’t mess around, he’s all over the place lol
I love the UK! Id love to live there. Escape the US and surround myself with beautiful landscapes and listen to everyones soothing accents.
He had a snub nose? I didnt know those existed. Wonder what a snub nose would look like. We call rude & stuck up ppl snub nosed in US
Fairplay for appreciating the landscapes and accents amongst such macabre subject matter! Our countries aren't so different. Same pockets of vile people in corners of our societies. Human nature. Have always loved this program. Scared the hell out of me as a kid, Nick Ross's narration still gives me slight chills. Many chills still etched from 1980's nostalgia :D
US had horrendous murders between the late 1950s and late 1990s rapes and murders the likes of ted Bundy and many many more thank goodness only 1 percent of the killers were Muslim in US between that era
ASMRtist Carla i love how you’re watching a show about UK murders, robberies and rapes and you’re thinking “that looks lovely, i want to live there” lmao
UK is not all tea and biscuits.
Want to swap places ? 😂
7:21 reminded me of the Take on Me video
Now all they need to show is him at the keyboard!
The Guildford attempted robbery reconstruction was more like a scene from Mr Bean!
That man in the bank robbery video was wearing an awfull syrup !.
Nick didn't say "don't have nightmares."
No, I believe he came up with that old nonsense sometime later.
The burglary of Woburn Abbey was very professional. Military.
I would say they robbed the stuff to order. I can’t see them stealing it without having a buyer lined up. I would have thought that it would be very hard to try and hawk that stuff around various antique dealers, 2nd hand shops and pawn brokers. Too distinctive as well.
Very brave to hold onto the money by the security guard in Guildford but also very stupid. Not worth possibly getting shot and either injured or killed for someone else’s money, that’s normally insured anyway. It’s one thing putting yourself at risk trying to save someone’s life but for money?? Forget it.
Especially multi-millionaires like Sainsburys ............................. At least £500,000 million profit every year. Look what they pay their staff.
Calm down Barry lad 👦
Was the Derby day gunman ever caught?
Tammy was such a good girl
Comedy seeing the old photo fit technology..
Actually, I like the old climate of it.
I was wondering what computers/programs they used.
Was the biggest ever stamp eventually recovered?
Caroline's murder was solved
Her murderer has been released as well
Don’t forget, the Woburn abbey raid
That guy with a sawn off .was proberley a low level street dealer .some 1 got word about his stash .
Superb
Helen Phelps is Gorgeous
Yes! But wait until Jacqui Hames appears in due course … Phwoar! ❤
Guildford is my hometown 😱😱😱😱
Crime happens everywhere.
@@zeddeka I know... 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Did they catch the man? Guildford is a nice place
Was Caroline Osborne's murder ever solved anyone?
Yes, it was, another girl in Leicester was murdered, the cases linked and a man was arrested and charged with murder.
Was it Paul Bostock, a 19 year old?
@@MM0SDK Solved. In June 1986, Paul Kenneth Bostock was convicted of Caroline Osborne's murder, as well that of Amanda Weedon in 1985. He was jailed for life.
ill never know why people dont just google these stupid questions lol
@@daleHarrison93 does it bother u that much that they don't tommy ??🤣🤣🤣
Fkin love thee Armed Robberies an kidnaps. We have all done them.
gta doesnt count soft lad
@@olegenie1007 ha ha ha good one.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
31:37- scuse me Officer, does your head go all the way to the top of that hat? 😆
I can sort of understand so called crimes of passion and rage.But to actively go out and kill a stranger stilll baffles me today and im 50 years.of age and been a follower of crime ever since i started reading murder casebook magazines in the mid 1980s as a teenager