Flamme was (effectively) Serie’s Fern, and receiving her will was getting a message that her student was dead. Had achieved her dream and wanted her teacher to still be a part of it, but was no longer in the world.
Serie is full of shit, I love her. She keeps saying she only raised Flamme on a whim and talking shit about her to Frieren, but at the same time she's remembering a smiling baby Flamme holding her hand as they walk together, she knows which was Flamme's favorite spell and talks about it with fondness even if she's giving her shit for it, and even though she refused to honor her will at first here she is one thousand years later doing exactly what she asked even after the Demon King is dead.
She legit thougt about it for a thousand years, then Frieren killed the demon king and she was like ''Alright, I will do what my student asked, her other plan worked after all '' or something like this XD
She deadass said in the flashback that elves can afford to wait a millennium before making a decision, and BOOM exactly a millennium after she's now teaching humans magic LMAO
I kinda love the dynamic between Serie and Frieren. They are both each other’s opposites but also each other’s mirrors. I think the reason they hate each other is deeper than just philosophical differences, I think they remind each other of aspects of themselves that neither of them are willing to acknowledge. Serie is martial, she believe magic should belong to a privileged few who seek to prove their prowess through challenging each other. Frieren on the other hand believes magic should exist for magic’s sake, that everyone should practice it and enjoy it merely because it’s fun and beautiful. They have such opposing world views and yet…Why is the warrior, the MARTIAL mage Serie…the one who’s title is “the living Grimoire”, and the carefree, “magic for the sake of magic” Frieren is the one who’s titled “the slayer”. For someone who’s supposed to only see magic as a weapon of war, Serie is the one who spends more time teaching people magic than Frieren. For someone who thinks magic should be enjoyed for the sake of learning, Frieren spends more time killing demons than Serie does. Serie claims magic should be open to a select few, yet Serie has FAR more apprentices than Frieren and even allows ANYONE to apply for the exams. Whereas Frieren only ever takes on ONE apprentice, and one whose caliber is far above that of any Serie has ever trained in terms of potential. An apprentice by the way, who’s quickly earning a reputation for being a remarkably dangerous duelist. For all their willingness to criticize one another’s beliefs, they are each living lives closer to the other’s ideals
That's a very good observation, didn't consider that before. In this aspect, it's really interesting seeing Flamme who is in many ways the one standing in between them, sharing in both qualities.
Something subtle that I loved this episode was the end of the Serie and Frieren conversation. Serie looks away from the light of the sun representing the bright future for humankind. In contrast, Frieren steps forward and basks in it. This adaptation is just top tier all across the board.
To be fair,Seire did fulfill flamme's dream to take over to help humans. She just spent a thousand years to make the decision. You know ,short time for her.
yup, she has lived since the era that the creation goddess created the world. So, for her, a thousand years to think and decide is just a "mere 1000 ys"
Serie: "magic should be special, it was dumb for Flamme to ask me to guide humanity's pursuit of magic" also Serie, is the leader of the largest mage society in the world to popularize magic when almost all mages were killed by demons. Serie is just Frieren but older.
serie is not a bad person, it just takes "TIME" to understand the true words behind her lies. she was shook when frieren told her flamme died, proceeds to put up a front. she shitttalks flamme yet was holding her hand endearingly in the flashback and reminiscing about young flamme with a smile, declines her will..........proceeds to do it anyways😅
Nah, I am actually pretty damn sure, Flamme was more like Fern, than even Frieren is aware, cause Serie seems like the kind of bookworm, that would forget how to use her nose 😂
I remember reading a comment around the time ep 7 aired that found it poetic that Flamme is named that considering she's like Prometheus, gifting fire (knowledge, power) to humanity. Edit: An elf walks into a bar. Everyone groans.
11:40 Don't let Serie fool you. When she heard Freiren said "Flamme's will", Serie was shocked for a moment but covered up her reaction quickly. She loves her little Flamme even though she pretends not to. 16:50 That joke is actually funny. Really!!!
It's like Himmel flirting with Frieren and her taking 50 years to realize. She operates on such an extended timeline she ends up missing things until it's too late
Serie says she only trained her on a whim yet she remembers much about her (and her other apprentices) but she also ends up fulfilling Flamme's request in her will.
So the memory of Flamme runs into the rising sun and disappears, heralding the dawn of a new age of magic. Serie looks into the sun, and then away from it to look back, and gives Frieren a warning of danger (notably she is not in any way concerned for herself. It is Frieren she is worried for). Frieren, however, smiles and walks past Serie, facing the sun, and thinks only of the wonder and opportunity the new era will bring.
Serie surely has a sharp tongue. But you'll see later, her love for her students is unexpectedly deep. Deep down, she loves her students and hasn't forgotten Flamme too.
zoltrak was around for 80 years. most elves did not hear about it yet. another good point is how seire is also responsible for humans learning magic. she was flame´s master and indirectly made everything possible... and she decided to take the lead after becoming the head of the magic association. So, to some extent, she also appreciated what flame did.
But she only teach first class mages.. That's why first class mage exam is very brutal.. So she still stands with her word that magic should be special..
Serie is making me cry. She keeps talking shit about Flamme but she's remembering her in perfect clarity, girl your mask of indifference is failing big time 🥲. And I love that I keep hearing Killua every time she speaks 😇
It's an episode that celebrates the short and finite nature of human life. Because our lives are short, we can't procrastinate for long at the crossroads of big decisions, we have to make choices and move forward quickly. Because there is death, we can feel the preciousness of life, we can develop, and we can cherish our family and friends.
I can't really blame Serie on how she thinks about Flamme. The difference in life-span can't really be comparable, and even if she had formed a relationship with a Human, it's just a speck in her life.
It's interesting how many parallels they're painting between Serie/Flamme and Frieren/Fern. If those keep holding up, Fern could be the next great mage. Who knows wtf she could be capable of.
The chalk drawing of the battle plan during this episode was true to the final scenario that killed the Frieren clone. According to the drawing when the fight starts, Fern just has to scramble and hide near the nearest column and stay there while Frieren battles the clone and brings it to a spot were Frieren would be between the clone and Fern who is hiding behind the column. As soon as Fern sees that the clone is where she is supposed to be that is her cue to blast her with Frieren blocking the clones view of Fern below and of course without the clone detecting such a blast of full powered zoltraak coming her way since her mana detection is down during that instant as it is also casting a slightly slower spell of its own towards Frieren who sees the clones attack coming miles away because she is it and it is her. lol! Nice touch as always on the little things! Awesome anime!😊
Serie sees memories as the present, so when she was holding little flame's hand, she literally WAS holding the past flamme's hand, hence why she distances her self to her disciples, the loss of a loved one
Little Flamme's time was probably just a day or two ago with Serie. So she remember's everything. Those scene is so precious. They introduced Flamme to us in the first few episodes as this powerful Human mage. To see her here as an innocent kid running around and playing with flowers all the while knowing we are only seeing this memory because she had passed away. 😢
It really is an amazing insight into Frieren's battle experience, the sequence was so fast a lot of people missed it. But tracking your opponent's gaze while looking for your own opening is a learned skill, and Frieren only has all of time to practice and perfect it.
I like your videos. I use them as my educational materials. I'm looking forward to next episode of Frieren.❤ From a Japanese person who has been studying English.
@@FreshestAnime No not at all. Maybe, I'm used to such words. Your English is so clear for me that I can easily learn "real English" and watch the reactions of the people overseas such as you. Also, Frieren is my favorite anime!! so I am glad to be able to know what the people overseas think about Frieren. Sorry my strange English.
We can see how human change the perspective of elves.. Flamme to serie Flamme and himmel to frieren In manga serie actually cherish flamme, it just she not showing it. Even she smile when flamme smiling when flamme holding her hand
Fren has a talent for conseal her own magic making it almost impossible to detect and quickdraw magic with the fastest speed, she's like perfect assassin magicians.
I think, Serie love giving is something like tough love she diss her own pupil in every corner possible, but she fondly remember all of their time together, and with a smile too. Thats just how harsh but full of loving nature teacher's do. Because the master always wish to see their students doing great things
Considering what Richter did to her & Kanne in the previous test, Lawine had every right to all that attitude she was showing to him. Flamme uniting humanity to finally learning magic- this is probably the origin of that necklace Frieren has to show her magic rank. Only a handful of people in the world probably recognize it at this point. 😅
I notice Frieren's clone was able to teleport from point A to point B similar to Laufen's Jilwer spell. This means Frieren could use that spell all along, but she doesn't see the need to, except for maybe the time when she fought Denken.
1:50 Makes the Mona Lisa smile look like a full-toothed grin... On my (only) Full HD TV the last two vertical pairs of pixels in the smile on Frieren's left side move up one row.
1:50 Yep, thats a smile. 😁 Also, PLEASE YOU COULD HAVE GIVEN A FEW SECONDS MORE TO HIMMEL! I wanted to see him in action! Just a little bit. Just cut the showing them voicelessly talk part. 😐
The magic frieren uses is so strong that defensive magic dosent work against it. Thats why fern and frieren dogdes or frieren cancel it with same Power. A normal mage could never handle such a battle. Spells like this also consume a lot of mana. If you remember denken was empty after his Flame Tornado and he is actually pretty strong. So even if they tried a big Team battle, it would be like frieren said. Most of them would just die
I'm pretty sure that's ancient elf magic. The kind of thing no human mage would learn because it takes too long and too much mana. Thats so cool to see some !
She's so very proud of raising that lil mage to become her killer, it's so cute ❤ Also, that joke gave me a good chuckle. I could see it construct in your head and the bland punchline worth it 😂 Too bad it's only applicable at this very exact moment in history, as nobody else will remember that elves can take a hundred years to make a decision, so yeah, bask in the comedic glory
This show is so so good man. And everything i hear from manga readers implied that the best arcs are still to come. Actually, last i heard people discuss the current/upcomming arc seems to be the best one yet. So we're still far from the peak of the peak that is this series. I don't know if i'm gonna be able to keep myself from binging the manga once episode 28 finishes. I wanna experience this whole story in my favourite medium (animation) but I love this world and these characters so much that i need to know what else is gonna happen
In the end the others just need to slow down the replicas ... and when Frieren and Fern are done, the doors open and Gatling-Fern just comes out like "What's up Motherf*ckers!?" and blasts them all. 🤣 Amazing thought ... too bad it'll surely play out differently. XD also: We haven't seen THAT much of Flamme ... but why does this flashback to smoll Flamme hit so hard when they talk about this flower spell? XD
I think if they kill the Spiegel all the clones will disappear. Flamme rarely gets screen time but whenever she gets the episode is always masterpiece.
Serie is basically like Frieren.. she 'raise' Flamme while Frieren 'raise' Fern.. she might seems like it doesn't bother her tht Flamme is dead, but I think she actually felt heartache without her notice when Frieren said that she's gone.. Serie might have different vision for magic and stuff from Frieren, but remember she's much older than Frieren.. Something just in my mind really think that Serie not that 'bad'/'evil' as we thought.. Ouh well, it just a little piece of my mind 😅 *Plus: Serie keep what Flamme said about the human with magic. The first class mage shit is developing recently, well, elf time is much slower than humane society of time, the mage class is starting about 50-60 years ago. So much time ape between Flamme's death and the starter of that.. Imagine if between that hundreds years gap is actually how Serie grieving and processing about Flamme's death..
The juxtaposition in the flashback with Serie is actually a triple juxtaposition. Because Frieren at this point was still very young for an elf. Definitely less than 1000 years old and very likely less than 500 years old. So we have Flamme, a human who lived probably a full human lifespan of 75-85 years, Serie, who is already thousands of years old, to whom Flamme’s life has been just a blip, and Frieren, who is probably only a couple hundred years old, for whom her time with Flamme still constitutes a significant fraction of her life experience, who hasn’t yet or is only just beginning to experience and grasp the implications of what her elven lifespan will entail for her in terms of relationships with humans.
So, there's this suspicion I've had since watching this ep the first time. Lawine knew from the start about Spiegel and what it could do, and she probably told Kanne too. I think Kanne lied when she said they didn't notice Frieren and Fern leaving. I think Lawine and Kanne were hoping the other teams were going to leave before Frieren so they could try to convince Frieren NOT to enter the dungeon to prevent Spiegel from creating the ultimate final boss. That's why Kanne looked so crestfallen and scared when they finally went in.
"weak times create weak people. Hard times create strong people". I think THIS is both why Serie didn't want herself to defeat the demon king AND why she does this first-class mage exam. The demon king being alive, it WILL create an era in which strong people are gonna have to step up. Flamme allowing everyone to learn magic would make this idea non existent anymore, since almost every person would be able to learn magic. I understand due to Serie's behavior and rudeness, some people might not like her, but that doesn't mean she is not important. Deep inside, she cares 🤣 even tho i give all credits to Flamme, she wouldn't be nothing without Serie. Actually all this era of magic wouldn't probably exist. In the end, it's the basic "i don't like a character that don't like the MC" thing. Serie and Frieren simply think different. In the end they're all on the same side of the story (against the demons)
It’s a small spoiler, but this doesn’t make sense considering Serie started doing this just 50 years ago. She’s sad that her best living apprentice , the very first ‘first class’ mage will ‘never get to fight any legendary battles, for an example against Frieren, even if it’s a battle he could win’. The Demon King’s dead, it’s a peaceful era right now
So weird to see him vibing to this anime while donning full gopnik style set. Well, only missing the silly leather cap on the head, beer bottle in one hand and sunflower seeds bag in the other.
I am so suprised that many reactors don't get the point that Serie is actually a tsundere and cares Flamme very much (She said she trained Flamme on a whim but remembers everything about Flamme and fulfill her last will)
いつも楽しく見ています。 I enjoy your video every week, thank you! And I try to wtite my point of view, forgive my English mistakes. I would try to observe what Serie did, because she is a elf as same as Friern, it means they think very slow and careless, usually don't think deeply unlike human. When she talked with Friren, she had changed her mind very quick, once "go home", after understanding Flamme knew her character, "I will tell you about Flamme" additioned a excuse "we have a lot of time" for avoiding to be rejected it by Friren. That is unnatural switching if thery were humanbeings. However she does not understand why she wanted to tell the past story Friren. In Japanese version lines she called Flamme "あの子" many times, "あの子" is a pronoun which is used only for a child and her voice seemed to feel attachment very much-loved as a elf. From these reasons I believe she loves Flamme but she doesn't recognise herself, like Friren did not feel anything unitl Himmel's death. In fact she has been kept imperial mages for thousand years, I think that why she saw Friren's smiling face for long time( a few seconds?) talking "That is exciting, right?", possibly she felt something like this girl is raised by Flamme... then she decided to do what Flamme's will, tearing her will's paper though, but of curse without thinking anything.
10:10 I think that Frieren just has so damn much mana that it can't be fully suppressed. Fern, while having a lot of mana, can more easily suppress her mana without leakage.
Flamme predicted that at some point Frieren would want to speak with the dead. There’s also that moment when she makes Serie look away and admit that she kind of likes the struggle of fighting the Demon King’s army. I believe she has this tendency of knowing the people (maybe just the elves?) around her more than they know themselves, to the point that she can predict some of their reactions. Frieren found that annoying earlier in the series, so maybe it was something she did quite often. There’s also that moment when Frieren was surprised Fern and Himmel knew what dessert she wanted. Maybe elves change so little and slow that at some point their actions become extremely predictable to humans. I bet Flamme knew Serie would come around and help humanity learn magic, eventually.
In previous episode I wanna say in the past..way back before denon king era...I assume Humans hasn't learn how to use magic yet.....I was aftaid I could be wrong but the answer got revealed in this episode....Wow...it seems my theory half correct😊😊
Flamme = Fern and Serie = Frieren... Their relationship are too similar and at some point, that really foreshadows how great will Fern be in the near future... Serie raising Flamme on a "whim" but I think deep inside she loved her as her daughter at some point and then Flamme taking Frieren in to help master her magic to defeat the Demons and the Demon King at that time and now Frieren with Fern... I'm so looking forward to the prequel story of this show
16:10 There's a SciFi story I read decades ago (don't remember what it was) where a race had achieved immortality but then gave it up because everything stagnated. There was no reason to do anything NOW because you could always do it tomorrow, next month, next century...
3:35 "SEE I SAID THEY SHOULD WORK TOGETHER BUT NOOOO" 4:50 "Yeah they probably felt like they couldn't work together" This man is a pancake the way he's flipping.
"I keep wanting to pause, everything is so interesting". Said nobody ever in the history of watching a great show. Lol. I can't imagine ever pause during hype or interesting things in an epic show.
Probably never heard of the term "pause and reflect." I pause so that way I have time to reflect otherwise I am reflecting while the content continues and then missing what follows which is likely something else I would consider "interesting" as "everything is so interesting."
@@FreshestAnime lol no, and I know its different on Twitch, but when I am watching hype, I have to keep watching. At the end I have infinite time to reflect.
A few episodes ago I said this was the best episode, but I was wrong. There are always episodes that get better and better. For me, this is definitely the best anime this season.
Serie might say those harsh words but in reality she does care a lot about her students… she’s just sad and angry that that they can’t be with her till the end because humans lifespan is only a speck compared to elves. I think one of her student mentioned that Serie doesn’t forget the names of her students including those who died already, she remembers them that’s why she’s kinda bitter…
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"I only trained her on a whim," is Serie's, "We only traveled together for a mere ten years."
That’s Loid-level of coping
Exactly this. Nobody believes that shit no matter how much she repeats it. Including Serie herself.
Flamme was (effectively) Serie’s Fern, and receiving her will was getting a message that her student was dead. Had achieved her dream and wanted her teacher to still be a part of it, but was no longer in the world.
@@jmhacesthe 3rd test area says it all
Or Übel’s “I’m just studying glasses boy” 🤣
Serie is full of shit, I love her. She keeps saying she only raised Flamme on a whim and talking shit about her to Frieren, but at the same time she's remembering a smiling baby Flamme holding her hand as they walk together, she knows which was Flamme's favorite spell and talks about it with fondness even if she's giving her shit for it, and even though she refused to honor her will at first here she is one thousand years later doing exactly what she asked even after the Demon King is dead.
She legit thougt about it for a thousand years, then Frieren killed the demon king and she was like ''Alright, I will do what my student asked, her other plan worked after all '' or something like this XD
She did do flammel will, look at her now...
She deadass said in the flashback that elves can afford to wait a millennium before making a decision, and BOOM exactly a millennium after she's now teaching humans magic LMAO
the continental magic association was only formed 50 years ago, so yea she did take a whole ass millennia to think it over lol
These elves have a... unique way of dealing with their emotions...
I kinda love the dynamic between Serie and Frieren. They are both each other’s opposites but also each other’s mirrors. I think the reason they hate each other is deeper than just philosophical differences, I think they remind each other of aspects of themselves that neither of them are willing to acknowledge. Serie is martial, she believe magic should belong to a privileged few who seek to prove their prowess through challenging each other. Frieren on the other hand believes magic should exist for magic’s sake, that everyone should practice it and enjoy it merely because it’s fun and beautiful. They have such opposing world views and yet…Why is the warrior, the MARTIAL mage Serie…the one who’s title is “the living Grimoire”, and the carefree, “magic for the sake of magic” Frieren is the one who’s titled “the slayer”. For someone who’s supposed to only see magic as a weapon of war, Serie is the one who spends more time teaching people magic than Frieren. For someone who thinks magic should be enjoyed for the sake of learning, Frieren spends more time killing demons than Serie does. Serie claims magic should be open to a select few, yet Serie has FAR more apprentices than Frieren and even allows ANYONE to apply for the exams. Whereas Frieren only ever takes on ONE apprentice, and one whose caliber is far above that of any Serie has ever trained in terms of potential. An apprentice by the way, who’s quickly earning a reputation for being a remarkably dangerous duelist. For all their willingness to criticize one another’s beliefs, they are each living lives closer to the other’s ideals
That's a very good observation, didn't consider that before.
In this aspect, it's really interesting seeing Flamme who is in many ways the one standing in between them, sharing in both qualities.
Something subtle that I loved this episode was the end of the Serie and Frieren conversation. Serie looks away from the light of the sun representing the bright future for humankind. In contrast, Frieren steps forward and basks in it. This adaptation is just top tier all across the board.
Right! Looking out to the horizon with the sun in her face, meanwhile Serie is stepping backwards into known/comfortable territory.
Adding to this Flamme is the one who reached there first, showing the way, and then she disappears while looking at it
That flashback as a term paper 's worth the stuff that can be unpacked
To be fair,Seire did fulfill flamme's dream to take over to help humans. She just spent a thousand years to make the decision. You know ,short time for her.
yup, she has lived since the era that the creation goddess created the world. So, for her, a thousand years to think and decide is just a "mere 1000 ys"
Serie: "magic should be special, it was dumb for Flamme to ask me to guide humanity's pursuit of magic"
also Serie, is the leader of the largest mage society in the world to popularize magic when almost all mages were killed by demons.
Serie is just Frieren but older.
She postponed it for a millenium also lmao
And a tsundere lol. She act like she dont like Flamme yet her action says otherwise
well she eventually comes around (don’t know how long it took, lol) and honor her late student’s will
And later she BAN Frieren from entering the organisation building for thousands years😂
@@yeejiaang2031 not thousands just a thousand, but still. 😅
serie is not a bad person, it just takes "TIME" to understand the true words behind her lies.
she was shook when frieren told her flamme died, proceeds to put up a front.
she shitttalks flamme yet was holding her hand endearingly in the flashback and reminiscing about young flamme with a smile, declines her will..........proceeds to do it anyways😅
"I only trained her on a whim"
Like... ma'am you *RAISED* her 😂
Nah, I am actually pretty damn sure, Flamme was more like Fern, than even Frieren is aware, cause Serie seems like the kind of bookworm, that would forget how to use her nose 😂
I remember reading a comment around the time ep 7 aired that found it poetic that Flamme is named that considering she's like Prometheus, gifting fire (knowledge, power) to humanity.
Edit: An elf walks into a bar. Everyone groans.
for real though 😂
11:40 Don't let Serie fool you. When she heard Freiren said "Flamme's will", Serie was shocked for a moment but covered up her reaction quickly. She loves her little Flamme even though she pretends not to.
16:50 That joke is actually funny. Really!!!
That's such an old joke
It's like Himmel flirting with Frieren and her taking 50 years to realize. She operates on such an extended timeline she ends up missing things until it's too late
Serie says she only trained her on a whim yet she remembers much about her (and her other apprentices) but she also ends up fulfilling Flamme's request in her will.
Ya and it only took a mere thousand years
@@brodybenton-haskins9720 that is called a tsundere
@@brodybenton-haskins9720that is like 10 elf years or something lol
@@sentryion3106 not even, they basically live forever
So the memory of Flamme runs into the rising sun and disappears, heralding the dawn of a new age of magic. Serie looks into the sun, and then away from it to look back, and gives Frieren a warning of danger (notably she is not in any way concerned for herself. It is Frieren she is worried for). Frieren, however, smiles and walks past Serie, facing the sun, and thinks only of the wonder and opportunity the new era will bring.
I got unexpectedly emotional when little Flamme was running around. So many comparisons to their relationship and Frieren/Fern.
I love how everyone collectively thought for a moment that Frieren's weakness Fern was about to talk about was a mimic XD
Serie surely has a sharp tongue. But you'll see later, her love for her students is unexpectedly deep. Deep down, she loves her students and hasn't forgotten Flamme too.
yeah she is disappointed but not regretted teaching flamme
zoltrak was around for 80 years. most elves did not hear about it yet.
another good point is how seire is also responsible for humans learning magic. she was flame´s master and indirectly made everything possible... and she decided to take the lead after becoming the head of the magic association. So, to some extent, she also appreciated what flame did.
But she only teach first class mages.. That's why first class mage exam is very brutal.. So she still stands with her word that magic should be special..
She did not take the lead for 1000 years. Until Frieren and team beat the Demon King. Then she's like: "OK, fine."
exactly. i think that is also another example how much love and appreciation she had for flame @@katelovewright4034
but she already knew it was going to happen and 1k years for an elf is actually fast xD@@BlackhaloZ
@@katelovewright4034 but that has also a reason in the end
Serie is making me cry. She keeps talking shit about Flamme but she's remembering her in perfect clarity, girl your mask of indifference is failing big time 🥲. And I love that I keep hearing Killua every time she speaks 😇
About Serie, it's important to remember that people lies. Basically, She is a Tsundere with thousands of years of experience.
It's an episode that celebrates the short and finite nature of human life.
Because our lives are short, we can't procrastinate for long at the crossroads of big decisions, we have to make choices and move forward quickly. Because there is death, we can feel the preciousness of life, we can develop, and we can cherish our family and friends.
Best commentary that I have seen so far. Other reaction videos are all "so cool" "so sweet" but you breaking down the context is fantastic.
I can't really blame Serie on how she thinks about Flamme.
The difference in life-span can't really be comparable, and even if she had formed a relationship with a Human, it's just a speck in her life.
Serie has a child like personality, she cares for hers students but she beave the opposite, like children to their crush
@@federicobergamini9124 So a tsundere...
@@johnyshadow kinda
Her time with Flamme was probably just One one-hundredth of her life. But it changed her.
@@Jhona3304 it's not just her, everyone Serie had come in contact had changed her in some way
"I only trained her in a whim."
*"And yet I will never forget that wonderful child."*
It's interesting how many parallels they're painting between Serie/Flamme and Frieren/Fern. If those keep holding up, Fern could be the next great mage. Who knows wtf she could be capable of.
Frieren’s smiles throughout this episode are because of that, I think. She’s smiling because she’s proud and impressed. I tear up lol.
Shoutout to bro who said he/she was blinking 🔥
He always understand the story super well,love this channal❤
The chalk drawing of the battle plan during this episode was true to the final scenario that killed the Frieren clone. According to the drawing when the fight starts, Fern just has to scramble and hide near the nearest column and stay there while Frieren battles the clone and brings it to a spot were Frieren would be between the clone and Fern who is hiding behind the column. As soon as Fern sees that the clone is where she is supposed to be that is her cue to blast her with Frieren blocking the clones view of Fern below and of course without the clone detecting such a blast of full powered zoltraak coming her way since her mana detection is down during that instant as it is also casting a slightly slower spell of its own towards Frieren who sees the clones attack coming miles away because she is it and it is her. lol! Nice touch as always on the little things! Awesome anime!😊
Serie sees memories as the present, so when she was holding little flame's hand, she literally WAS holding the past flamme's hand, hence why she distances her self to her disciples, the loss of a loved one
Little Flamme's time was probably just a day or two ago with Serie. So she remember's everything. Those scene is so precious. They introduced Flamme to us in the first few episodes as this powerful Human mage. To see her here as an innocent kid running around and playing with flowers all the while knowing we are only seeing this memory because she had passed away. 😢
I like when the clone pointing its staff at Frieren and Frieren's defensive spell kept changing to adjust to the potential attack.
It really is an amazing insight into Frieren's battle experience, the sequence was so fast a lot of people missed it. But tracking your opponent's gaze while looking for your own opening is a learned skill, and Frieren only has all of time to practice and perfect it.
Flashback-INception is best Frieren flashbacks.
Trust me , if it is still Madhouse doing season two then I can guarantee it is gonna be beyond phenomenal cause the peak is yet to come
I like your videos.
I use them as my educational materials.
I'm looking forward to next episode of Frieren.❤
From a Japanese person who has been studying English.
That's awesome! I'm sure im teaching you many bad words 😂😂
@@FreshestAnime No not at all.
Maybe, I'm used to such words.
Your English is so clear for me that I can easily learn "real English" and watch the reactions of the people overseas such as you.
Also, Frieren is my favorite anime!! so
I am glad to be able to know what the people overseas think about Frieren.
Sorry my strange English.
yo the animation went crazy in this fight
We can see how human change the perspective of elves..
Flamme to serie
Flamme and himmel to frieren
In manga serie actually cherish flamme, it just she not showing it. Even she smile when flamme smiling when flamme holding her hand
I always love how you mention a quick review of the Openings, feels really good
Fren has a talent for conseal her own magic making it almost impossible to detect and quickdraw magic with the fastest speed, she's like perfect assassin magicians.
We all know Serie liked Flamme
Next episode is going wild 🔥
Serie is effectively Frieren's Grandmaster
Flamme, the grandmother of human magic
I think, Serie love giving is something like tough love
she diss her own pupil in every corner possible, but she fondly remember all of their time together, and with a smile too. Thats just how harsh but full of loving nature teacher's do. Because the master always wish to see their students doing great things
Frieren vs Frieren was amazing some new spells. Looking forward to the next week episode.
PEAK FANTASY!!
the reaction titles on frieren should all be like this
I always watch it in Japanese translation.
I enjoy watching your videos because your thoughts are very insightful.
I support you.😊
Thank you!
No mimics. Remember they just 99% the dungeon (still got this last room) and killed all the mimics Frieren got stuck in 😂
1214番目のLIKEボタンを押したのは俺様だ🎉
フリーレンを見た後にFresh兄貴の動画を見て生の英語を聞いた後、翻訳された動画も見てもう一度Fresh兄貴の声を聞く。これが俺様の習慣になっているよ。
「彼らは決断を先送りにはできない」というゼーリエの言葉を聞いて、耳が痛いよ😖👂️💥
Agreed. Frieren is a modern masterpiece. And the manga, so far, has not let up. 🤌🏾
FR, and the current arc is so interesting too
I'm having fun watching the reactions.
From Japan with love
"Other anime you may enjoy..." Gushing Over Magical Girls
Not gonna lie, Frieren really makes me recognise the value of humans and elves life
Considering what Richter did to her & Kanne in the previous test, Lawine had every right to all that attitude she was showing to him.
Flamme uniting humanity to finally learning magic- this is probably the origin of that necklace Frieren has to show her magic rank. Only a handful of people in the world probably recognize it at this point. 😅
18:04 the reaction when you realize the meaning of Serie words. Im sure not many people understood it.
I notice Frieren's clone was able to teleport from point A to point B similar to Laufen's Jilwer spell. This means Frieren could use that spell all along, but she doesn't see the need to, except for maybe the time when she fought Denken.
"I only trained her on a whim"
Nah she's not being honest with herself, she loved that kid you can just tell
1:50 Makes the Mona Lisa smile look like a full-toothed grin... On my (only) Full HD TV the last two vertical pairs of pixels in the smile on Frieren's left side move up one row.
11:06 Is just facts, it's so crazy how this show explains that contrast.
Fern's replica is going to be the real boss for this dungeon.
1:50 Yep, thats a smile. 😁
Also, PLEASE YOU COULD HAVE GIVEN A FEW SECONDS MORE TO HIMMEL! I wanted to see him in action! Just a little bit. Just cut the showing them voicelessly talk part. 😐
The magic frieren uses is so strong that defensive magic dosent work against it. Thats why fern and frieren dogdes or frieren cancel it with same Power. A normal mage could never handle such a battle. Spells like this also consume a lot of mana. If you remember denken was empty after his Flame Tornado and he is actually pretty strong. So even if they tried a big Team battle, it would be like frieren said. Most of them would just die
I'm pretty sure that's ancient elf magic. The kind of thing no human mage would learn because it takes too long and too much mana. Thats so cool to see some !
You gotta realize Serie's resting face is a smug grin just like Ubel as opposed to frieren and Fern whose resting face is that expressionless neutral.
You're pretty real too man💯
You know Serie wouldn't even remember the name of people she isn't interested with but seeing this well.... you know how it goes
She's so very proud of raising that lil mage to become her killer, it's so cute ❤
Also, that joke gave me a good chuckle. I could see it construct in your head and the bland punchline worth it 😂
Too bad it's only applicable at this very exact moment in history, as nobody else will remember that elves can take a hundred years to make a decision, so yeah, bask in the comedic glory
This show is so so good man. And everything i hear from manga readers implied that the best arcs are still to come. Actually, last i heard people discuss the current/upcomming arc seems to be the best one yet. So we're still far from the peak of the peak that is this series.
I don't know if i'm gonna be able to keep myself from binging the manga once episode 28 finishes. I wanna experience this whole story in my favourite medium (animation) but I love this world and these characters so much that i need to know what else is gonna happen
In the end the others just need to slow down the replicas ... and when Frieren and Fern are done, the doors open and Gatling-Fern just comes out like "What's up Motherf*ckers!?" and blasts them all. 🤣 Amazing thought ... too bad it'll surely play out differently. XD
also: We haven't seen THAT much of Flamme ... but why does this flashback to smoll Flamme hit so hard when they talk about this flower spell? XD
I think if they kill the Spiegel all the clones will disappear. Flamme rarely gets screen time but whenever she gets the episode is always masterpiece.
Serie is basically like Frieren.. she 'raise' Flamme while Frieren 'raise' Fern.. she might seems like it doesn't bother her tht Flamme is dead, but I think she actually felt heartache without her notice when Frieren said that she's gone.. Serie might have different vision for magic and stuff from Frieren, but remember she's much older than Frieren.. Something just in my mind really think that Serie not that 'bad'/'evil' as we thought.. Ouh well, it just a little piece of my mind 😅
*Plus: Serie keep what Flamme said about the human with magic. The first class mage shit is developing recently, well, elf time is much slower than humane society of time, the mage class is starting about 50-60 years ago. So much time ape between Flamme's death and the starter of that..
Imagine if between that hundreds years gap is actually how Serie grieving and processing about Flamme's death..
The juxtaposition in the flashback with Serie is actually a triple juxtaposition. Because Frieren at this point was still very young for an elf. Definitely less than 1000 years old and very likely less than 500 years old.
So we have Flamme, a human who lived probably a full human lifespan of 75-85 years, Serie, who is already thousands of years old, to whom Flamme’s life has been just a blip, and Frieren, who is probably only a couple hundred years old, for whom her time with Flamme still constitutes a significant fraction of her life experience, who hasn’t yet or is only just beginning to experience and grasp the implications of what her elven lifespan will entail for her in terms of relationships with humans.
Nah seriously why did every reactor thought that they were gonna beat a serious challenge with the mimic gag? 😂
So, there's this suspicion I've had since watching this ep the first time. Lawine knew from the start about Spiegel and what it could do, and she probably told Kanne too. I think Kanne lied when she said they didn't notice Frieren and Fern leaving. I think Lawine and Kanne were hoping the other teams were going to leave before Frieren so they could try to convince Frieren NOT to enter the dungeon to prevent Spiegel from creating the ultimate final boss. That's why Kanne looked so crestfallen and scared when they finally went in.
Madhouse telling everyone. Why they're called MADhouse
i just hope the hype over the anime doesn't mess up the production of the manga
Frieren IS a Masterpiece.
13:11 That's literally what the title "progenitor" means
At the "7 hours ago" mark there 10,542 vies with 871 likes. I don't think there will be any problem getting the Likes level you proposed at 22:40.
Wdym Denken episode? There's a Denken ARC.
"weak times create weak people. Hard times create strong people". I think THIS is both why Serie didn't want herself to defeat the demon king AND why she does this first-class mage exam. The demon king being alive, it WILL create an era in which strong people are gonna have to step up. Flamme allowing everyone to learn magic would make this idea non existent anymore, since almost every person would be able to learn magic.
I understand due to Serie's behavior and rudeness, some people might not like her, but that doesn't mean she is not important. Deep inside, she cares 🤣 even tho i give all credits to Flamme, she wouldn't be nothing without Serie. Actually all this era of magic wouldn't probably exist.
In the end, it's the basic "i don't like a character that don't like the MC" thing. Serie and Frieren simply think different. In the end they're all on the same side of the story (against the demons)
It’s a small spoiler, but this doesn’t make sense considering Serie started doing this just 50 years ago. She’s sad that her best living apprentice , the very first ‘first class’ mage will ‘never get to fight any legendary battles, for an example against Frieren, even if it’s a battle he could win’. The Demon King’s dead, it’s a peaceful era right now
an elf walks into a bar, the bartender asks, " what will you have?" the elf replies " give me a century to think about it."
So weird to see him vibing to this anime while donning full gopnik style set. Well, only missing the silly leather cap on the head, beer bottle in one hand and sunflower seeds bag in the other.
I am so suprised that many reactors don't get the point that Serie is actually a tsundere and cares Flamme very much (She said she trained Flamme on a whim but remembers everything about Flamme and fulfill her last will)
Serie acts like she doesn't care about her apprentices yet. Remember all their favorites spell.
i hope when frieren meets himmel & flamme in heaven she shows them fern while being smug & proud about her disciple
I find it interesting that the monster Spiegel that they are fighting is German for mirror.
いつも楽しく見ています。
I enjoy your video every week, thank you! And I try to wtite my point of view, forgive my English mistakes.
I would try to observe what Serie did, because she is a elf as same as Friern, it means they think very slow and careless, usually don't think deeply unlike human.
When she talked with Friren, she had changed her mind very quick, once "go home", after understanding Flamme knew her character, "I will tell you about Flamme" additioned a excuse "we have a lot of time" for avoiding to be rejected it by Friren. That is unnatural switching if thery were humanbeings. However she does not understand why she wanted to tell the past story Friren. In Japanese version lines she called Flamme "あの子" many times, "あの子" is a pronoun which is used only for a child and her voice seemed to feel attachment very much-loved as a elf.
From these reasons I believe she loves Flamme but she doesn't recognise herself, like Friren did not feel anything unitl Himmel's death. In fact she has been kept imperial mages for thousand years, I think that why she saw Friren's smiling face for long time( a few seconds?) talking "That is exciting, right?", possibly she felt something like this girl is raised by Flamme... then she decided to do what Flamme's will, tearing her will's paper though, but of curse without thinking anything.
10:10 I think that Frieren just has so damn much mana that it can't be fully suppressed. Fern, while having a lot of mana, can more easily suppress her mana without leakage.
Flamme predicted that at some point Frieren would want to speak with the dead. There’s also that moment when she makes Serie look away and admit that she kind of likes the struggle of fighting the Demon King’s army.
I believe she has this tendency of knowing the people (maybe just the elves?) around her more than they know themselves, to the point that she can predict some of their reactions. Frieren found that annoying earlier in the series, so maybe it was something she did quite often.
There’s also that moment when Frieren was surprised Fern and Himmel knew what dessert she wanted. Maybe elves change so little and slow that at some point their actions become extremely predictable to humans.
I bet Flamme knew Serie would come around and help humanity learn magic, eventually.
if Denken became bald he'll be mistaken from Himmel 😅
Hehe, underestimating Frieren like that, just wait for next ep. :P
In previous episode I wanna say in the past..way back before denon king era...I assume Humans hasn't learn how to use magic yet.....I was aftaid I could be wrong but the answer got revealed in this episode....Wow...it seems my theory half correct😊😊
Flamme = Fern and Serie = Frieren... Their relationship are too similar and at some point, that really foreshadows how great will Fern be in the near future... Serie raising Flamme on a "whim" but I think deep inside she loved her as her daughter at some point and then Flamme taking Frieren in to help master her magic to defeat the Demons and the Demon King at that time and now Frieren with Fern... I'm so looking forward to the prequel story of this show
"Anya!!!" is so powerful haha (if you know what I mean hehe)
16:10 There's a SciFi story I read decades ago (don't remember what it was) where a race had achieved immortality but then gave it up because everything stagnated. There was no reason to do anything NOW because you could always do it tomorrow, next month, next century...
As in it "might go down as" a modern masterpiece, replace that with "is"
3:35 "SEE I SAID THEY SHOULD WORK TOGETHER BUT NOOOO"
4:50 "Yeah they probably felt like they couldn't work together"
This man is a pancake the way he's flipping.
"I keep wanting to pause, everything is so interesting". Said nobody ever in the history of watching a great show. Lol. I can't imagine ever pause during hype or interesting things in an epic show.
Probably never heard of the term "pause and reflect." I pause so that way I have time to reflect otherwise I am reflecting while the content continues and then missing what follows which is likely something else I would consider "interesting" as "everything is so interesting."
@@FreshestAnime lol no, and I know its different on Twitch, but when I am watching hype, I have to keep watching. At the end I have infinite time to reflect.
I’m sad this series is done in 3 weeks, it I’ve loved this show. I only recently started getting into anime, and I came at the perfect time apparently
A few episodes ago I said this was the best episode, but I was wrong. There are always episodes that get better and better. For me, this is definitely the best anime this season.
Serie might say those harsh words but in reality she does care a lot about her students… she’s just sad and angry that that they can’t be with her till the end because humans lifespan is only a speck compared to elves. I think one of her student mentioned that Serie doesn’t forget the names of her students including those who died already, she remembers them that’s why she’s kinda bitter…
Wohoooo cant wait for next eps
I love both OPs :)
8:30 it didnt dawn on me until 2 frieren casting max aoe spells lol. Everyone is fucked in that chamber