Fun watching all you chumpamaniacs show up to watch and then hating the show week after week. Nascar has all you brothers thinking the corruption and drama is the real show.
There was manipulation to help Byron maintain his position and there was manipulation to help Bell gain a position. Byron shouldn’t be penalized for what the two cars behind him did. Those two cars need penalties. Neither should Bell be penalized for what Wallace did. However, though Bell did not intend to get into the wall after passing Wallace, he did make the conscious decision to ride the wall. You can hear him throttle up after he hit the wall rather than letting up to leave it wall. That was the penalty. This time NASCAR got it right. Had Bell let up the throttle, he would have slowed but still stayed ahead of Wallace and would be contending for the Championship next Sunday. Two cases of manipulation but only one of the benefiting drivers committed a penalty.
@@Spanky-d7b I disagree Burton certainly had his moments in racing., he was never one of the greats rhough. But I completely agree that nobody wants to hear him. A lot of times I have to mute my tv, hus voice is annoying and his opinions are mostly trash.
Never been a Burton fan, even when he was a driver. He is entitled to his opinion but I think he crossed the line with his comments towards Hocevar. He's a young driver with a lot of talent who has made some mistakes, but I can name several other drivers who have become Hall of Fame drivers with the same beginnings. Burton's comments were disrespectful. NASCAR has made a name for itself being a contact sport, and the networks have embraced these moments as highlight reels. I believe there are some animosity whenever you see a young driver excel above the others. NBC does a great job with their coverage but Burton is the weak link in their team in my opinion.
@@ronhochhalter3491 Ron...Hocevar was driving around ramming cars. If he is talented he would be going past them without always wrecking them. No doubt the chrome horn applies to anyone plugging the hole lap after lap but dude wreck 4 cars that I saw and all those cars were just as good as Hocevar. He is fine in cup racing. Eventually he will FAFO when he dicks w/KB or someone else who could care less about a nascar hauler conversation. Perhaps he should think about who's race his is ****ing up and they will deliver a bit of good ol boy justice to the lad. He will grow up eventually.
@@truckercowboyed2638 Don't paint me with your brush. I've been a fan since the days of Ernie Irvan and Alan Kulwicki. I've never said "I'm done" even after both my dad and brother gave up on it. This is the first year I've come to the conclusion my days of following the series are winding down. The championship is not being won by the best drivers any more.
First, Congrats to Ryan Blaney for racing his way into the championship! What a drive, dude. You earned it. The Manufacturer's Corrupt Cup! I mean, Cup, where drivers collude, and award each other points. Why not? Everyone is bumping, running each other up the track, and wrecking each other anyway. Is that not another form of cheating? We love it when it's not our guy getting screwed. Chevrolet doesn't have a production model to sell. Camry doesn't even offer a V8, yet they give orders to drivers. Meanwhile, NASCAR conveniently looks the other way. As far as the wall ride, they had no choice. They don't shoot that down, and it'll happen again next week.
Sir I want to believe you I want to agree with you there's a lot of money involved Henry Kendrick is the cornerstone in NASCAR right now so we had to have a car in there cuz they make money for getting in I believe I don't know how much. It's sad and I'm sick cuz I just thought this was the only sport left that was manipulated by people in suits
What the hell was Elliot doing? He dropped down a lane and ran over a slower car. He was even told on the radio of the slower car. It is as hard to watch a breakdown of these races as it is to watch the whole race.
That safety rule is broken at every Darlington race period. What Bell did is nothing like what Ross did, he did go up and ride wall. He hit wall due to lose of control. Ross did to gain positions and Bell did it due to lose of control after he had already gained the spot he needed. The real cheaters were those several Chevys blocking who all involved need to be penalized Byron included as he benefited from it. Scanner also proves it was premeditated. My driver won and I still find my self pissed off I hope the courts or arbitration ends Nascar's bull crap. Maybe they should let Gordon into the final 4/5
There was no safety concerns when chastain road the entire wall to take Hamlin out of the points race and he still got to be in the points race . Oh wait it was against Hamlin and Toyota so it don't matter . smh
Kyle, Denny Hamlin made a comment about Ryan Blaney “punting” (my word), everyone out of the way on his way to the front. Denny said that had he the speed, he wanted to immediately give back what Ryan was passing out to many of the guys he passed. I remember what Ryan has said in the past, about not being pushed anymore out of the chance at the final 4. He honestly has made good on his promise to himself and his fans. His car was the fastest and he needed to get to the front. “Moving the others” was his only way to get there. We as intelligent fans, can see where things are unfair, and unclear; where the rules are written so wishy washy that they can allow too much ambiguity. This system may be exciting, but it is not recognizing the “Top 4 drivers of the year; they represent the drivers (and teams, and OEMS), who won the 3-race shoot out. Where is the driver who won 6 races this year? The driver who was “the story” for all of the year? I was in Ross Chastain’s car when he got the “order” not to pass the #24. Ross had him beat but was told to not pass. How can an underperforming driver and team become the “Driver of the Year”?! Also, how can Joey and “the scientists” that squeezed a win at the right moment in another underperforming year as well potentially be declared the driver of the year?! The excitement is fun, but the “truth” of what is actually going on is tearing apart NASCAR’s integrity. We are not stupid. There is a breaking point coming for us all, and all the tricks and gimmicks are not going to hide the disingenuous behaviour of the sanctioning body much longer. NASCAR will survive, but it is not going to be what it could have been. A celebration of our very best. In hockey, the team gets 7 games to win the final cut. If they want to use a playoff system, NASCAR might want to consider giving the actual top 4 drivers/teams, more than 3 races to qualify for the next cut. Maybe the top 4 drivers from the year’s performance, are automatically in the final cut at the end of the regular season; but lose that recognition if their consistency drops below a certain level. This is all way above my pay grade, but I like us all, can see that Larson is NOT in the FINAL 4! Kyle, how can that be right? Kyle, thank you for the chance in 350+ entrants to win a Kevin Harvick helmet. It was exciting to be part of the chance to own a piece of memorabilia that you chose. Thank you for the great job you do as a reporter. I look forward to Beating & Banging. Jim
Kyle, I just watched this “20 years in the making” thought provoking expose’ by Brock Beard that he recorded the day after Austin had the Richmond race won…and then his night went “complicated”. th-cam.com/video/Aylau5ItrqU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vJ5f9YBe64fOWN3w Brock makes a great case for why we need to stop using the “playoffs” to crown a champion, and why. Brock does a good job of explaining his reasonings. As I post this, I see that Kenny Wallace has comments on Brad Keselowski’s X comment, “This should be the last straw on the camel’s back for the playoffs”. Brock shows how there are some components of today’s NASCAR that would actually enhance a return to a Season Championship, champion. With everything in chaos and turmoil, we can know for sure that something is going to happen; soon. Jim
A rule cannot be vague or ambigous . If it is it's not a R.U.L.E. It's a J.O.K.E. Therefore, is there a definition or a way to idenitfy what riding the wall reality is. Words matter because it's hard to make a car ride a wall, it's not a horse. Would someone send me a copy of this rule. I know it's a stretch but bets are made and taxes are to be paid and it is for this reason that this water could be deeper than you think.
NASCAR needs to punish the team owner if one of their teams manipulates a race outcome. Remove the owner from the owners championship battle if it happens at any time in during the year. Accountability will filter down.
Impossible. For example, everybody knows bubba Wallace faked feeling a flat tire and slowed way down after being told by his team that Bell was one point short. The problem is Bell and Wallace are on different teams. Only same manufacturer (just like the 24,3 and 1) and there isn’t a smoking gun that Wallace did that or that he was told to do that because the conversation actually happened before the race started about what to do if we need it. You need way more proof to punish a team. Too much money on the line.
Your comment is IDIOTIC ! Nascar has ALWAYS been a manufacture VS manufacture series...teams only matter for the owners of each team. Chevy, Ford, Toyota, Dodge, Buick, Plymouth, etc. Drivers will ALWAYS protect thier fellow manufacture drivers.....PERIOD !!!
@@michaelpatton7065 Ones opinion doesn't make the opinion idiotic, it's makes others rage with idiocy. You could've easily just said you completely disagree with his opinion.
That safety rule is broken at every Darlington race period. What Bell did is nothing like what Ross did, he did go up and ride wall. He hit wall due to lose of control. Ross did to gain positions and Bell did it due to lose of control after he had already gained the spot he needed. The real cheaters were those several Chevys blocking who all involved need to be penalized Byron included as he benefited from it. Scanner also proves it was premeditated. My driver won and I still find my self pissed off I hope the courts or arbitration ends Nascar's bull crap. Maybe they should let Gordon into the final 4/5
There is so much nonsense going on these days. It's the format that I don't like. The driver with the most wins this season isn't in the game. The results of this race seems wrong. The so called wall ride didn't improve any position. The blocking however did affect the end results of the race. I really don't like this format. There has to be a better way.
There IS an answer : Go back to the 1980's --1990's point system !!! NO PLAYOFFS...NO STAGE RACING !!! The most consistant driver throughout the season WINS THE CHAMPIONSHIP !!!
@@michaelpatton7065 They did away with the old system because the NFL kicks their ass in ratings after the beginning of Sept. They were tired of losing out.
@@alensley1368 Look at the way Nascar is covered by the sports channels, compared to the way they cover the NFL , MLB and even NHL and MSL ......NASCAR is ALWAYS covered as an AFTERTHOUGHT !!! The ratings are a VERY poor excuse to upend the entire reason for Nascar's existance....To crown a champion based on who is the most consistant driver on ALL the tracks !!!!
Unfortunately, manufacturers have been having "hypotheticals" all year with points adding up or taken away here and there for the length of the season. The magnifying glass and scrutiny was just in full force due to the implications of this race. You could have a case of this every race. The problem is, Bell definitely broke the rule by the rules' exact definition, and for the very reason the rule was put in place. The fact that it was the last lap didn't help his case, I mean if it happened on lap one of the race nobody would be talking out it, and it would have never come up. The one thing that surprised me the most was how easy Chase Elliott conceded to Blaney, as a fan you would have thought that even though Chase knew Blaney was better and the fact that Chase needed the win, Chase and Blaney would have bumped and banged a bit more and given the fans a show to remember. I guess Chase just didn't want it as bad. Just my 2 cents!
I know having the in-car camera is nice, BUT, the best thing they ever had was RaceView. It looked like the graphics of a video game, and the car you'd pick would give you any view you want instantly. You could drag/rotate/switch to aerial view, etc. It was awesome. I'd watch every single moment of every single race back then, but when RaceView left, my viewing was easily cut in half.
12 keeps getting away with things. I'm hoping he gets the bumper more than most next season but the play off format is a f**kin clown show. How the 22 and now the 24 is in is ridiculous
Nascar has turned into nastycar! All the Nascar audiences seen the blocking! By teams, Ford, Chevrolet, Toyota! The drivers don't win the race, even if the teams are cheating on live radio! The idiots in management! I still don't believe that scandal with bowman and logano gets in. Dillon gets disqualified after the race! Bell gets disqualified after the race! William Byron asking for a blockade? Bell asking people to slow down, so he can pass for points! It's nastycar! Now! Elliott whining! Dude you make tons of money!
Bell’s mistake was accelerating against the wall. IDK if that was necessary given the position gained, or he could have spun if backed off and turned. Great channel, calm cool and collect.
I don't care about in-car cameras, I just want to see the whole race from green to checkers. I would like to see the rules applied evenly and old school racés that really thrilled the fans. NASCAR has taken the greatest sport in America and turned ((left) into something that resembles the WWE or some other form of entertainment Damn sure shouldn't call iit racing anymore. Davey Allison was a real racecar driver.These Sunday powder puff games are a disgrace to the man who kept giving even after the Lord called him home. Thanks to you Davey, and all of the real men like him. God bless you all and your families.
They need to call it something different than a “safety violation”, as NASCAR thinks it’s more dangerous than running Daytona or Talladega at a 190 mph and crashing half the field and no one gets penalized! It wasn’t Bell’s intention to “run the wall”, though momentum of his pass carried him into the marbles, which caused his car to hit the wall in the middle of the corner and rode it out and ran off the wall to the finish line! I concur with his statement after the race. Chastain and Dillon were definitely protecting their Chevrolet partner Byron from getting passed! No way NASCAR was going to allow two Toyota’s in the race and voted Chevy! I’ve noticed that Byron get’s pretty whiney in these situations.
I only watch for the laughs these days!!!! Nascar is a joke!!! Its a raffle for a trophy at the end of the year!!! Empty seats at every event yet , Nascar still makes all the $$$$$ and as far as paying for in car / watching a race......more fans will exit!!! Nascar big wigs want that PPV $$$$ period!!
Same here! These bumper cars suck and the racing is mediocre at best! Some rules apply to some and not all. I love how the commentators did not talk about it. They just kept saying new tires, I don't know why they are not passing??? They knew and as always the France paid commentators said nothing! I hope someone starts a real stock car racing series with the France family is not involved! Fans are upset and I can't blame them! The France family ruined the sport and don't care$$$$$.
NASCAR has the first call correct, only because CBell panicked and mashed it, rather than turn down and go. That said, RCR, Trackhouse and 23XI should be seeing massive fines and penalties. The manufacturers are the blame. Just because my drivers drive a Chevy, I'm not driving one, because they're crap. So stop thinking we follow NASCAR, because of the cars.
I personally think Hendrick and JGR should receive the heaviest penalties and fines, you know... the benefitting parties. sending a message is very important here.
@frostvgm4021 I get that, but Byron and Bell have zero control of what's going on outside of their cars. Yes, one or the other is going to benefit from it, but isn't penalizing their teams the same thing as penalizing Ford because some idiot drove an f150 drunk into a bus?
You probably forgot that most popular sports in USA is american rugby and WWE. Both circus... you sure they confused? Or provide exactly what viewers want?
@@karendarrenmclaren Fair point. But don't confuse 'autosport' with "auto wrestling' or 'entertainment programming". You don't see the WWE in the sports section of the news.
All Bell had to do was get to the line before the 23 which he had in the bag. Running the wall is against the rules and he got caught. Bell is a great guy, and I like him, but he was wrong and I'm sure he knew it. Is there a rule that says you can't block on a short track? I've never heard of it. Guys have been doing this forever, why is there such an uproar now? Fans just hate it when their drivers lose out. Not sure what Elliott was crying about. He turned down the track into the 17 and then blamed him for hitting him. Byron was a top 3 car all day and he earned the spot.
It’s not just they were “blocking”, they made no attempt to pass Byron. Dillon and Chastain ran 30 laps side by side with neither attempting to pass each other. Hocevar ran outside Brad, pinning him on the inside. Then Dillon’s team telling him that the 24 can’t lose his position.
I came from netflix and im not a fan anymore mainly becuase the negative fanbase saying they are done everyweek nascar needs actual fans in the nfl if theyre favorite team loses they dont cry every single chance they get
I haven’t had a chance to thank you so much for the console vault, although they didn’t have one for my 2021 trailblazer I did get a portable vault that is really great for keeping my valuables in while traveling. Thank you so much! I love watching your videos!
The way I under stand the Rule is using the safer Barrier to impede your position at any Nascar Sanction Race track will result in a Disqualification win it comes to the out come of your position ..
@ Well we both agree that the 23 is an idiot among other things but I missed whether or not he had a flat or not. Either way Bell wasn’t the only driver to pass the 23 at the end. Either way you look at it there was multiple things going on at the end that should be looked at and penalized if they are going to call the 20 on that.
Calling that a wall ride in the spirit of the Hail melon is idiotic. What's going to happen at darlington. Everybody who gets a darlington stripe is penalized?
Are you sure you're not trying to get some where that's not on a map with the Darlington reference. I'm a dirt sprint car and midget guy so I like Bell. But all ya have to do is listen to the in car audio, Bell matted it around the 4th turn wall. It has nothing to do with Darlington. Trying to connect the two is like mixing oil and water.
You’re an idiot dude. How is that not wall ride. I’ve been watching NASCAR my whole life, and I have never seen anyone at Darlington with a Darlington stripe ride the wall from the entrance of turn three all the way out of turn for halfway down the stretch. I swear. You people are dumb and dumber
First of all BELL did NOT intentially Ride the wall like Chastain did he almost crashed the momentum carried him into the Wall and when he gassed it he pulled the car OFF of the wall????
I’m a Hendrick guy. Glad to see Byron in. But I despise the playoffs. NASCAR needs to stop policing so much. Bell was screwed. His “move” was nothing like the famous Chastain wall ride. But either way, If someone has the guts to ride that wall full in to the throttle. Let em have it!
Apparently it took 26 minutes for Rick Hendrick's check to clear. In the unlikely event that Byron wins the championship next week. it will have a yuuuuuuuge asterisk by it.
Kyle Petty said on his podcast “ there is no rule against manufacturers giving input to their teams, there is a rule against riding the wall. NASCAR is it’s own enemy..
How exciting! Almost half the field involved in shenanigans on the last 10 laps! We can't have no chevys in the final! NASCAR is garbage. Go Brad. NASCAR..boo.
My opinion on kosovar is that he is young, Logano did the same shit, they all do. Give him time, Jeff Burton forgets he drove for roush in the trucks and Busch series and then cup a top team elite team in those days.. Jeff wasn’t innocent. Kosovar drives for spire who,isn’t a top team. I think he is doing great in a car that isn’t on the elite status. Maybe he mad Harrison isn’t very good. It’s very rare to have a father and son and both be on the elite level. Really only the Jarret’s come to mind where a father and son and great drivers. No not even the Earnhardt. Dale jr was mediocre at best unless it was restrictor plate races. I can’t remember was it how oval that sun Harrison at martinville?
DQ both the 20 and the 24. Suspend the 1,3, and the 23 for race manipulation. The next driver with the most points moves up into the final four ( like Logano did ) which is Larson. He’s had the most wins of them all anyway - six.
If Ryan Blaney wins the championship he will be the first driver under this format to win back to back Championships. I'd like to see Tyler Reddick win the championship this year For the only Toyota driver in the final four..Good luck Tyler.
The "wall riding " is a No No or more to the point it's a rule and Bell should have been disqualified from the race for it! However I'm sure the 23,3 and the 1 will be fined and should be for race interference.
NASCAR Shit show! When it came down to JGR or HMS, we all knew who was going to win that battle. I think both teams manipulated the outcome using other cars to move over and block. In 2013, all three MWR cars were penalized 50 points for race manipulation, effectively eliminating MTJ from the championship cut off. In this case, you have non teammates, but like manufacturers doing the same thing, with Bubba, Chastain and Dillon. Docking 50 points is like removing that race entirely, so if both Byron and Bell were docked 50 points, Larson is in the final four and deservedly so, with 6 wins. This chase format is BS! If drivers still got in the championship based on the whole season's performance, this would not have even been an issue.
If you're asking about Chris Bells post, a bow tie is slang for a chevrolet. Hes insinuating that he got less than favorable treatment from nascar because hes a toyota driver rather than a chevy driver.
Elton Sawyer is a damn liar, it doesn’t take 26 minutes to look at the 20 overdriving the corner and hitting the wall. I don’t think Bell had anything to do with the 23 slowing down or he wouldn’t have drove it in so hard.
It only took 26 minutes to find out if Hendrick would be angry if he had no cars in the playoffs. He stated he would be, so did a huddle and gave it to Byron. LOL. In all seriousness, what happened with the 1 and 3 blocking for Byron was just as serious. Bell should have been the fourth driver in the playoff, or the next closest driver should have gotten the spot when Byron was disqualified. NASCAR HAS BECOME A JOKE AS A RACING ORGANIZATION. GO BACK TO REAL BODIES AND NO AERO WITH IRON BLOCKS WITH SMALL V8'S . This should stop the restrictor plate races. Mandate frame dimensions and design and leave the rest up to the ingenuity of the teams. NASCAR has no business building cars and selling the parts.
@@jackielanc The France family has so much control over everything now that they actually expect to be able to hand an Owner a 100 page document and demand that it be signed and returned to them in 6 hours. What that says is that they don’t want you to have time to read it, they don’t care what you think it’s either sign it or you’re out. How do they expect these owners to make a profit at some point. It’s just a big show anymore anyway kind of like a circus traveling from city to city. Im afraid
I don’t think what Bell did even close to Ross’s circus display! Yes he overdrive the corner and got into the wall but you could hear as soon as he gathered it up he gassed on it and got off the wall. He was robbed IMO
I’m an old school dirt racer. I’ve been around racing my whole life. My Dad had a dirt late model in the garage and I loved helping at home and the track. Therefore I generally like a NASCAR driver if they grew up on dirt. Jeff Gordon, Ryan Newman, Christopher Bell, and Kyle Larson. Kyle is the most talented race car driver in the USA. I wish they would get rid of the playoffs and go back to the old system.
Pretty clear Bell did "wall ride". Hard to say that Dillon and Chastain were blocking. At one point Chastain almost wrecked Byron, so I dont think Dillon and Chastain did anything wrong.
@raymondhoffman4371 I am an Elliott fan. All I am saying is Bell's wall ride was obvious. Chastain and Dillon would be in same category of what Wallace did for Bell. Hard to prove anything.
I talked to my congerssman today. We waited at the polls and gave him the petition to investigate the fixed race and all the money lost by legal gamblers. We were assured it will be investigated after the elections. I know other congressmen and senators were given petitions. WE are also asking our state to declare qall the bets made my our citizens cancelled due to the illegally fixed race. We want our money back. I am also joining a group for a class action suit against NASCAR for the fixed race with the leal gamblers being cheated, Hopefully we can make this a bigger lawsuit than the one they have now.
@@BeatingandBanging I was there but not the spokesperson. We just wanted a lot of representatives because early in the year we bet on the champion. It was just a thousadn dollars, but once the race was fixed I want my money back and betting on NASCAR outlawed in the future as we went through many things Monday to show that it is not a legitmate sport and was fixed throughout the playoffs. Betting is not allowed on WWE for this reason. I can get a copy of the petition I think.
@@BeatingandBanging I was told he said he will look into the situation. The rest was exchanging info for contact later this week or next week. He was not prepared at all for us. WE will know more after he looks into the situation. If he wins. :) Our hope mainly that it will be investigation for congressmens publiicity and that lead to more people joing a class action suit. Should be good publicity taking on NASCAR and gambling companies for the poor working man who lost money because of this.
They needed a Chevy in the final 4 and they used the rules to get it. It’s not about being fair or safe. It’s about money. They should just make the playoffs the final 3 or 6 and take top cars from each manufacturer because they’ll rig it anyway.
Bell should be in an the 24 should be out. Bell's incident was 1 corner where it wasn't done on purpose wasn't near as bad as the 1 and 3 putting up a Chevrolet blockade to keep cars and points behind them. That's the Race MUNIPALATION that nascar should be looking at. They won't take another Hendrick car out of the playoffs but they should.
If Nascar had a brain they would have disqualified the 1 3 24 20 and the 23, that would have sent a message to all the teams that if you try to manipulate the race you would pay the price.
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NASCAR, the World Wrestling Federation of motorsports!
Yes but why? Because they have done everything, they can to please the fans which is impossible.
Cant wait Mr McMahon to become an owner in the sport now. Or, make his own version of stock car racing like he did with the XFL (first iteration) 😂
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Fun watching all you chumpamaniacs show up to watch and then hating the show week after week. Nascar has all you brothers thinking the corruption and drama is the real show.
Wow... Wrestling on wheels...😂😂😂
Elton Sawyer needs to go.
if it’s not him it will just be another sold out front man
“Do they know the deal”. Manipulation! Simple!
There was manipulation to help Byron maintain his position and there was manipulation to help Bell gain a position. Byron shouldn’t be penalized for what the two cars behind him did. Those two cars need penalties. Neither should Bell be penalized for what Wallace did. However, though Bell did not intend to get into the wall after passing Wallace, he did make the conscious decision to ride the wall. You can hear him throttle up after he hit the wall rather than letting up to leave it wall. That was the penalty. This time NASCAR got it right. Had Bell let up the throttle, he would have slowed but still stayed ahead of Wallace and would be contending for the Championship next Sunday. Two cases of manipulation but only one of the benefiting drivers committed a penalty.
Glad to hear Jeff Burton call out Hocevar. Kid is in way over his head. Stop wrecking people or go back to trucks !
Like anyone listens to what Jeff Burton says. He’s an idiot and never was a a good driver, nothing but a caution car.
@@Spanky-d7b
I disagree Burton certainly had his moments in racing., he was never one of the greats rhough.
But I completely agree that nobody wants to hear him.
A lot of times I have to mute my tv, hus voice is annoying and his opinions are mostly trash.
My wife and I do not like listening to squeaky motormouth either, but he hit the nail right on the head with Hocevar
Never been a Burton fan, even when he was a driver. He is entitled to his opinion but I think he crossed the line with his comments towards Hocevar. He's a young driver with a lot of talent who has made some mistakes, but I can name several other drivers who have become Hall of Fame drivers with the same beginnings. Burton's comments were disrespectful. NASCAR has made a name for itself being a contact sport, and the networks have embraced these moments as highlight reels. I believe there are some animosity whenever you see a young driver excel above the others. NBC does a great job with their coverage but Burton is the weak link in their team in my opinion.
@@ronhochhalter3491 Ron...Hocevar was driving around ramming cars. If he is talented he would be going past them without always wrecking them. No doubt the chrome horn applies to anyone plugging the hole lap after lap but dude wreck 4 cars that I saw and all those cars were just as good as Hocevar. He is fine in cup racing. Eventually he will FAFO when he dicks w/KB or someone else who could care less about a nascar hauler conversation. Perhaps he should think about who's race his is ****ing up and they will deliver a bit of good ol boy justice to the lad. He will grow up eventually.
Happy to see Denny won’t be a cup champion yet again .. he is over rated
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@billfisher4156 Then wh 11:36 y do you watch nobody cares about you Oldman get off my lawn comment.
It's definitely not true.
Try R.I.D. For the crabs, heard it was good
@@stvnbgnss uh . . .right …. He’s been “overrated” 54 times . Yes, OVERRATED is one word dumdass
You would think that Elton Sawyer would get tired of having to be NASCAR’s Baghdad Bob
no bc it PAYS VERY GOOD
This was the final nail in NAPCAR's coffin. This is no longer a serious auto racing series, but a WWF freak show.
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Last race I'll ever watch
You people cry every week but come right back
I love it
@@truckercowboyed2638 Don't paint me with your brush. I've been a fan since the days of Ernie Irvan and Alan Kulwicki. I've never said "I'm done" even after both my dad and brother gave up on it. This is the first year I've come to the conclusion my days of following the series are winding down. The championship is not being won by the best drivers any more.
First, Congrats to Ryan Blaney for racing his way into the championship! What a drive, dude. You earned it.
The Manufacturer's Corrupt Cup! I mean, Cup, where drivers collude, and award each other points. Why not? Everyone is bumping, running each other up the track, and wrecking each other anyway. Is that not another form of cheating? We love it when it's not our guy getting screwed.
Chevrolet doesn't have a production model to sell. Camry doesn't even offer a V8, yet they give orders to drivers. Meanwhile, NASCAR conveniently looks the other way.
As far as the wall ride, they had no choice. They don't shoot that down, and it'll happen again next week.
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Great comment! Thank you for sharing.
You can't 'wall ride' at Phoenix dummy. What is one going to do wall ride at 160 mph plus
Sir I want to believe you I want to agree with you there's a lot of money involved Henry Kendrick is the cornerstone in NASCAR right now so we had to have a car in there cuz they make money for getting in I believe I don't know how much. It's sad and I'm sick cuz I just thought this was the only sport left that was manipulated by people in suits
@@brinkee7674 ahh they mite rabbut they mite.
What the hell was Elliot doing? He dropped down a lane and ran over a slower car. He was even told on the radio of the slower car. It is as hard to watch a breakdown of these races as it is to watch the whole race.
Bell broke a safety rule no if ands or buts about it, and he didn’t need to.
Exactly.
I do think Bowman would have passed him if he didn't accelerate but I do agree that it's a safety violation and it has to be called.
That safety rule is broken at every Darlington race period. What Bell did is nothing like what Ross did, he did go up and ride wall. He hit wall due to lose of control. Ross did to gain positions and Bell did it due to lose of control after he had already gained the spot he needed. The real cheaters were those several Chevys blocking who all involved need to be penalized Byron included as he benefited from it. Scanner also proves it was premeditated. My driver won and I still find my self pissed off
I hope the courts or arbitration ends Nascar's bull crap. Maybe they should let Gordon into the final 4/5
@@brinkee7674 And broken at Miami where they often ride the wall. And like Darlington, it's promoted as part of the expected race action.
There was no safety concerns when chastain road the entire wall to take Hamlin out of the points race and he still got to be in the points race . Oh wait it was against Hamlin and Toyota so it don't matter . smh
Kyle, Denny Hamlin made a comment about Ryan Blaney “punting” (my word), everyone out of the way on his way to the front. Denny said that had he the speed, he wanted to immediately give back what Ryan was passing out to many of the guys he passed. I remember what Ryan has said in the past, about not being pushed anymore out of the chance at the final 4. He honestly has made good on his promise to himself and his fans. His car was the fastest and he needed to get to the front. “Moving the others” was his only way to get there.
We as intelligent fans, can see where things are unfair, and unclear; where the rules are written so wishy washy that they can allow too much ambiguity. This system may be exciting, but it is not recognizing the “Top 4 drivers of the year; they represent the drivers (and teams, and OEMS), who won the 3-race shoot out. Where is the driver who won 6 races this year? The driver who was “the story” for all of the year? I was in Ross Chastain’s car when he got the “order” not to pass the #24. Ross had him beat but was told to not pass. How can an underperforming driver and team become the “Driver of the Year”?! Also, how can Joey and “the scientists” that squeezed a win at the right moment in another underperforming year as well potentially be declared the driver of the year?! The excitement is fun, but the “truth” of what is actually going on is tearing apart NASCAR’s integrity. We are not stupid. There is a breaking point coming for us all, and all the tricks and gimmicks are not going to hide the disingenuous behaviour of the sanctioning body much longer. NASCAR will survive, but it is not going to be what it could have been. A celebration of our very best. In hockey, the team gets 7 games to win the final cut. If they want to use a playoff system, NASCAR might want to consider giving the actual top 4 drivers/teams, more than 3 races to qualify for the next cut. Maybe the top 4 drivers from the year’s performance, are automatically in the final cut at the end of the regular season; but lose that recognition if their consistency drops below a certain level. This is all way above my pay grade, but I like us all, can see that Larson is NOT in the FINAL 4! Kyle, how can that be right?
Kyle, thank you for the chance in 350+ entrants to win a Kevin Harvick helmet. It was exciting to be part of the chance to own a piece of memorabilia that you chose. Thank you for the great job you do as a reporter. I look forward to Beating & Banging.
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Wow! What an amazing comment. Thank you very much, Jim. Really appreciate the time you took to write it and the kind words.
Kyle, I just watched this “20 years in the making” thought provoking expose’ by Brock Beard that he recorded the day after Austin had the Richmond race won…and then his night went “complicated”. th-cam.com/video/Aylau5ItrqU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vJ5f9YBe64fOWN3w Brock makes a great case for why we need to stop using the “playoffs” to crown a champion, and why. Brock does a good job of explaining his reasonings. As I post this, I see that Kenny Wallace has comments on Brad Keselowski’s X comment, “This should be the last straw on the camel’s back for the playoffs”.
Brock shows how there are some components of today’s NASCAR that would actually enhance a return to a Season Championship, champion. With everything in chaos and turmoil, we can know for sure that something is going to happen; soon.
Jim
JIM YOU GOT TO BE IN ASSCAR SHOES THEY ARE ONLY 1/2 OF THE WORLD OF BS GM & HMS ARE THE REST OF THE STORY GOT IT
A rule cannot be vague or ambigous . If it is it's not a R.U.L.E. It's a J.O.K.E. Therefore, is there a definition or a way to idenitfy what riding the wall reality is. Words matter because it's hard to make a car ride a wall, it's not a horse. Would someone send me a copy of this rule. I know it's a stretch but bets are made and taxes are to be paid and it is for this reason that this water could be deeper than you think.
Find it yourself. We aren't your secretary.
Riding the wall is when the driver stays on the throttle after contacting the wall. Obvious even though not stated!
NASCAR needs to punish the team owner if one of their teams manipulates a race outcome. Remove the owner from the owners championship battle if it happens at any time in during the year. Accountability will filter down.
Your lost
Impossible. For example, everybody knows bubba Wallace faked feeling a flat tire and slowed way down after being told by his team that Bell was one point short. The problem is Bell and Wallace are on different teams. Only same manufacturer (just like the 24,3 and 1) and there isn’t a smoking gun that Wallace did that or that he was told to do that because the conversation actually happened before the race started about what to do if we need it. You need way more proof to punish a team. Too much money on the line.
@@truthof7382 And what was the conversation of all the Chevy drivers and teams genius 🤷🏼,since you know what Team Toyota discussed before the race 🤡
Your comment is IDIOTIC !
Nascar has ALWAYS been a manufacture VS manufacture series...teams only matter for the owners of each team.
Chevy, Ford, Toyota, Dodge, Buick, Plymouth, etc. Drivers will ALWAYS protect thier fellow manufacture drivers.....PERIOD !!!
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Ones opinion doesn't make the opinion idiotic, it's makes others rage with idiocy.
You could've easily just said you completely disagree with his opinion.
That safety rule is broken at every Darlington race period. What Bell did is nothing like what Ross did, he did go up and ride wall. He hit wall due to lose of control. Ross did to gain positions and Bell did it due to lose of control after he had already gained the spot he needed. The real cheaters were those several Chevys blocking who all involved need to be penalized Byron included as he benefited from it. Scanner also proves it was premeditated. My driver won and I still find my self pissed off
I hope the courts or arbitration ends Nascar's bull crap. Maybe they should let Gordon into the final 4/5
Thanks for all of the great vision, it made your explanations very clear.
There is so much nonsense going on these days. It's the format that I don't like. The driver with the most wins this season isn't in the game. The results of this race seems wrong. The so called wall ride didn't improve any position. The blocking however did affect the end results of the race. I really don't like this format. There has to be a better way.
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There IS an answer : Go back to the 1980's --1990's point system !!!
NO PLAYOFFS...NO STAGE RACING !!!
The most consistant driver throughout the season WINS THE CHAMPIONSHIP !!!
@@michaelpatton7065 They did away with the old system because the NFL kicks their ass in ratings after the beginning of Sept. They were tired of losing out.
@@michaelpatton7065 I have to agree with you!
@@alensley1368 Look at the way Nascar is covered by the sports channels, compared to the way they cover the NFL , MLB and even NHL and MSL ......NASCAR is ALWAYS covered as an AFTERTHOUGHT !!!
The ratings are a VERY poor excuse to upend the entire reason for Nascar's existance....To crown a champion based on who is the most consistant driver on ALL the tracks !!!!
Another weekend of going to the bar and getting filthy drunk. Then waking up hungover and getting mad and blaming the bar and the alcohol.
Wow, that Elton Sawyer puppet is awesome, you can't even see the strings! 😂
SLINGER DON'T BE TOO HARD ON ELTON IT PAYS VERY GOOD
Again excellent coverage!
Thank you!
Not focused on race manipulation??? Come on NASCAR...
THE FANS ARE SO STUPID just ask asscar they think you the fan will jump on anything they say or do
Michael Waltrip racing was penalized for much less
Hendricks gets away with
No they don’t. Bowman was disqualified for nothing. Stop crying about Hendrick,get over it
Unfortunately, manufacturers have been having "hypotheticals" all year with points adding up or taken away here and there for the length of the season. The magnifying glass and scrutiny was just in full force due to the implications of this race. You could have a case of this every race. The problem is, Bell definitely broke the rule by the rules' exact definition, and for the very reason the rule was put in place. The fact that it was the last lap didn't help his case, I mean if it happened on lap one of the race nobody would be talking out it, and it would have never come up. The one thing that surprised me the most was how easy Chase Elliott conceded to Blaney, as a fan you would have thought that even though Chase knew Blaney was better and the fact that Chase needed the win, Chase and Blaney would have bumped and banged a bit more and given the fans a show to remember. I guess Chase just didn't want it as bad. Just my 2 cents!
Great comment! Thank you.
I know having the in-car camera is nice, BUT, the best thing they ever had was RaceView. It looked like the graphics of a video game, and the car you'd pick would give you any view you want instantly. You could drag/rotate/switch to aerial view, etc. It was awesome. I'd watch every single moment of every single race back then, but when RaceView left, my viewing was easily cut in half.
It's funny how commentators ignore the 12 shoving the 16 into the 24 (damaging Byron's car).
Every car out there was 'shoving' another car. It's Martinsville for Christ sake.
Kind of like Daytona, where the 48 pushed the 24 into the 6 Fords on the high line, wrecking them all.
12 keeps getting away with things. I'm hoping he gets the bumper more than most next season but the play off format is a f**kin clown show. How the 22 and now the 24 is in is ridiculous
Nascar has turned into nastycar! All the Nascar audiences seen the blocking! By teams, Ford, Chevrolet, Toyota! The drivers don't win the race, even if the teams are cheating on live radio! The idiots in management! I still don't believe that scandal with bowman and logano gets in. Dillon gets disqualified after the race! Bell gets disqualified after the race! William Byron asking for a blockade? Bell asking people to slow down, so he can pass for points! It's nastycar! Now! Elliott whining! Dude you make tons of money!
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Didn't blaney block for joey when he was laps down?
Bell’s mistake was accelerating against the wall. IDK if that was necessary given the position gained, or he could have spun if backed off and turned. Great channel, calm cool and collect.
Thank you for the kind words.
Just Happy to see Denny still not a Champion😂😂😂😂😂
I don't care about in-car cameras, I just want to see the whole race from green to checkers. I would like to see the rules applied evenly and old school racés that really thrilled the fans. NASCAR has taken the greatest sport in America and turned ((left) into something that resembles the WWE or some other form of entertainment
Damn sure shouldn't call iit racing anymore. Davey Allison was a real racecar driver.These Sunday powder puff games are a disgrace to the man who kept giving even after the Lord called him home. Thanks to you Davey, and all of the real men like him. God bless you all and your families.
And here it is two days after the race and people are talking about it. Exactly what the series wants leading to a championship race
They need to call it something different than a “safety violation”, as NASCAR thinks it’s more dangerous than running Daytona or Talladega at a 190 mph and crashing half the field and no one gets penalized! It wasn’t Bell’s intention to “run the wall”, though momentum of his pass carried him into the marbles, which caused his car to hit the wall in the middle of the corner and rode it out and ran off the wall to the finish line! I concur with his statement after the race. Chastain and Dillon were definitely protecting their Chevrolet partner Byron from getting passed! No way NASCAR was going to allow two Toyota’s in the race and voted Chevy! I’ve noticed that Byron get’s pretty whiney in these situations.
It is called Laughcar for very valid reasons.
Yeah, great idea. In car sound of drivers discussing strategy for everyone to hear. Great move NOT!!!
I only watch for the laughs these days!!!! Nascar is a joke!!! Its a raffle for a trophy at the end of the year!!! Empty seats at every event yet , Nascar still makes all the $$$$$ and as far as paying for in car / watching a race......more fans will exit!!! Nascar big wigs want that PPV $$$$ period!!
I don’t watch and come for the Abbott and Costello highlights!
Same here! These bumper cars suck and the racing is mediocre at best! Some rules apply to some and not all. I love how the commentators did not talk about it. They just kept saying new tires, I don't know why they are not passing??? They knew and as always the France paid commentators said nothing! I hope someone starts a real stock car racing series with the France family is not involved! Fans are upset and I can't blame them! The France family ruined the sport and don't care$$$$$.
WELL SAID ROB ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY NOT TRUE RACING JUST FAVORITES
Bell got massively screwed in this whole thing.
Burton was referring to what Driver's are saying in the Garage area only time will tell to see how Driver's will race him going forward???
Imagine if Brad was still in the 2 . Penske would be unstoppable
NASCAR HAS GOT EVERYTHING FUCKED UP
NASCAR has the first call correct, only because CBell panicked and mashed it, rather than turn down and go. That said, RCR, Trackhouse and 23XI should be seeing massive fines and penalties. The manufacturers are the blame. Just because my drivers drive a Chevy, I'm not driving one, because they're crap. So stop thinking we follow NASCAR, because of the cars.
I personally think Hendrick and JGR should receive the heaviest penalties and fines, you know... the benefitting parties. sending a message is very important here.
@frostvgm4021 I get that, but Byron and Bell have zero control of what's going on outside of their cars. Yes, one or the other is going to benefit from it, but isn't penalizing their teams the same thing as penalizing Ford because some idiot drove an f150 drunk into a bus?
Good comment. Thanks!
Nascar confused a circuit with a circus 🎪
You probably forgot that most popular sports in USA is american rugby and WWE. Both circus... you sure they confused? Or provide exactly what viewers want?
@@karendarrenmclaren Fair point. But don't confuse 'autosport' with "auto wrestling' or 'entertainment programming". You don't see the WWE in the sports section of the news.
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All Bell had to do was get to the line before the 23 which he had in the bag. Running the wall is against the rules and he got caught. Bell is a great guy, and I like him, but he was wrong and I'm sure he knew it. Is there a rule that says you can't block on a short track? I've never heard of it. Guys have been doing this forever, why is there such an uproar now? Fans just hate it when their drivers lose out. Not sure what Elliott was crying about. He turned down the track into the 17 and then blamed him for hitting him. Byron was a top 3 car all day and he earned the spot.
It’s not just they were “blocking”, they made no attempt to pass Byron. Dillon and Chastain ran 30 laps side by side with neither attempting to pass each other. Hocevar ran outside Brad, pinning him on the inside. Then Dillon’s team telling him that the 24 can’t lose his position.
@@davidreece5867 They were never able to pass him all day!
2025 driver page showing fuel gauge??? Hmm that cant cause any issues with fuel mileage races...
I came from netflix and im not a fan anymore mainly becuase the negative fanbase saying they are done everyweek nascar needs actual fans in the nfl if theyre favorite team loses they dont cry every single chance they get
I haven’t had a chance to thank you so much for the console vault, although they didn’t have one for my 2021 trailblazer I did get a portable vault that is really great for keeping my valuables in while traveling. Thank you so much! I love watching your videos!
You're welcome! Thanks for being such a great supporter of the channel. Really appreciate it.
It’s a joke. Making more rules every week. Bell should be in the big show. 👍🇺🇸🤠
Just leaving a comment in case Jeff Burton reads the comments too!
The way I under stand the Rule is using the safer Barrier to impede your position at any Nascar Sanction Race track will result in a Disqualification win it comes to the out come of your position ..
Which Bell didn’t do, he was already around the 23 and the 23 was having issues anyway.
@@Trucking4Freedombs the 23 had issues called the driver is an idiot he clearly slowed down and said it was a flat......
@ Well we both agree that the 23 is an idiot among other things but I missed whether or not he had a flat or not. Either way Bell wasn’t the only driver to pass the 23 at the end. Either way you look at it there was multiple things going on at the end that should be looked at and penalized if they are going to call the 20 on that.
Calling that a wall ride in the spirit of the Hail melon is idiotic. What's going to happen at darlington. Everybody who gets a darlington stripe is penalized?
I absolutely agree, that’s what I have been saying.👍🏻
Are you sure you're not trying to get some where that's not on a map with the Darlington reference. I'm a dirt sprint car and midget guy so I like Bell. But all ya have to do is listen to the in car audio, Bell matted it around the 4th turn wall. It has nothing to do with Darlington. Trying to connect the two is like mixing oil and water.
You’re an idiot dude. How is that not wall ride. I’ve been watching NASCAR my whole life, and I have never seen anyone at Darlington with a Darlington stripe ride the wall from the entrance of turn three all the way out of turn for halfway down the stretch. I swear. You people are dumb and dumber
ONLY THE GM CAR'S WILL NOT BE PENALIZED IN DARLINGTON EVER BODY ELSE GET'S THE PENALTY
It's clear your a Toyota man you should not lean towards favorites, the Chevys were wrong to block and the Toyota manipulation was wrong also
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First time I’ve ever been called a Toyota fan. Sorry to disappoint. I’m not.
The playoffs have got to go! This is a joke!
Lots to cover. Good job as usual!!
Thanks James!
I wish the NASCAR app live feed and spotter communication was better synced up.
Totally agree. Hoping this move next year will fix this.
What a clown show.
Nascar MANIPULATION, CHARTER POLEMIC, playoffs, stages, phoenix final, gen7.
Rip nascar.
I’m a Hendrick guy. Bell should have advanced. Kid was screwed IMO.
Appreciate your unbiased opinion.
How does a guy like Elton Sawyer who never did anything in the sport while driving land a spot as comp director. He needs to go!
First of all BELL did NOT intentially Ride the wall like Chastain did he almost crashed the momentum carried him into the Wall and when he gassed it he pulled the car OFF of the wall????
I’m a Hendrick guy. Glad to see Byron in. But I despise the playoffs. NASCAR needs to stop policing so much. Bell was screwed. His “move” was nothing like the famous Chastain wall ride. But either way, If someone has the guts to ride that wall full in to the throttle. Let em have it!
Apparently it took 26 minutes for Rick Hendrick's check to clear. In the unlikely event that Byron wins the championship next week. it will have a yuuuuuuuge asterisk by it.
Kyle Petty said on his podcast “ there is no rule against manufacturers giving input to their teams, there is a rule against riding the wall. NASCAR is it’s own enemy..
Maybe I'm a little bias but I think they should have disqualified the 24 and 20 and let the 5 in
I'll say it again NASCAR = Vince McMahon & WWE
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How exciting!
Almost half the field involved in shenanigans on the last 10 laps!
We can't have no chevys in the final!
NASCAR is garbage.
Go Brad. NASCAR..boo.
I guess Elliot's odds weren't high enough to make the chase.
My opinion on kosovar is that he is young, Logano did the same shit, they all do. Give him time, Jeff Burton forgets he drove for roush in the trucks and Busch series and then cup a top team elite team in those days.. Jeff wasn’t innocent. Kosovar drives for spire who,isn’t a top team. I think he is doing great in a car that isn’t on the elite status. Maybe he mad Harrison isn’t very good. It’s very rare to have a father and son and both be on the elite level. Really only the Jarret’s come to mind where a father and son and great drivers. No not even the Earnhardt. Dale jr was mediocre at best unless it was restrictor plate races. I can’t remember was it how oval that sun Harrison at martinville?
SPINHOUSE RACING?
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What the big deal about the time...to get it right?...20 and 24 dq 5 is in..simple..how I I get entered for the 2024 champion helmet 😅
DQ both the 20 and the 24. Suspend the 1,3, and the 23 for race manipulation. The next driver with the most points moves up into the final four ( like Logano did ) which is Larson. He’s had the most wins of them all anyway - six.
All about the money , it ain’t about racing anymore .
If Ryan Blaney wins the championship he will be the first driver under this format to win back to back Championships. I'd like to see Tyler Reddick win the championship this year For the only Toyota driver in the final four..Good luck Tyler.
The "wall riding " is a No No or more to the point it's a rule and Bell should have been disqualified from the race for it! However I'm sure the 23,3 and the 1 will be fined and should be for race interference.
NED DID HE ADVANCE HIS SPOT HELL NO SO KEEP ON WHINING
NASCAR Shit show! When it came down to JGR or HMS, we all knew who was going to win that battle. I think both teams manipulated the outcome using other cars to move over and block. In 2013, all three MWR cars were penalized 50 points for race manipulation, effectively eliminating MTJ from the championship cut off. In this case, you have non teammates, but like manufacturers doing the same thing, with Bubba, Chastain and Dillon. Docking 50 points is like removing that race entirely, so if both Byron and Bell were docked 50 points, Larson is in the final four and deservedly so, with 6 wins. This chase format is BS! If drivers still got in the championship based on the whole season's performance, this would not have even been an issue.
so listen to the incar for C. Bell, he never got into the gas till he was off the wall, I call Nascar for manipulation of the standings
Not a Team Penske, Hendricks MS, or JGR fan. Is that the only three teams doing the MAX in-race options
Holy shit this guy really buries the lead
Upgrade the radio so can be understood and clean up the language
Please. Will all you sports writers quit referring to "podium finishes". NASCAR does not have such a thing.
and another graphic feeds you advertisements you can't turn off...
What does he mean by his post?
If you're asking about Chris Bells post, a bow tie is slang for a chevrolet. Hes insinuating that he got less than favorable treatment from nascar because hes a toyota driver rather than a chevy driver.
This.
Elton Sawyer is a damn liar, it doesn’t take 26 minutes to look at the 20 overdriving the corner and hitting the wall. I don’t think Bell had anything to do with the 23 slowing down or he wouldn’t have drove it in so hard.
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It only took 26 minutes to find out if Hendrick would be angry if he had no cars in the playoffs. He stated he would be, so did a huddle and gave it to Byron. LOL. In all seriousness, what happened with the 1 and 3 blocking for Byron was just as serious. Bell should have been the fourth driver in the playoff, or the next closest driver should have gotten the spot when Byron was disqualified. NASCAR HAS BECOME A JOKE AS A RACING ORGANIZATION. GO BACK TO REAL BODIES AND NO AERO WITH IRON BLOCKS WITH SMALL V8'S . This should stop the restrictor plate races. Mandate frame dimensions and design and leave the rest up to the ingenuity of the teams. NASCAR has no business building cars and selling the parts.
@@jackielanc The France family has so much control over everything now that they actually expect to be able to hand an Owner a 100 page document and demand that it be signed and returned to them in 6 hours. What that says is that they don’t want you to have time to read it, they don’t care what you think it’s either sign it or you’re out. How do they expect these owners to make a profit at some point. It’s just a big show anymore anyway kind of like a circus traveling from city to city. Im afraid
I don’t think what Bell did even close to Ross’s circus display! Yes he overdrive the corner and got into the wall but you could hear as soon as he gathered it up he gassed on it and got off the wall. He was robbed IMO
@@billfisher4156your brain is in your ass actually
Got to make sure that a bow tie is in the championship race it’s fixed!!!!
I think they both should have been DQED AND LARSON SHOULD BEEN IN BULLSHIT!!
I’m an old school dirt racer. I’ve been around racing my whole life. My Dad had a dirt late model in the garage and I loved helping at home and the track. Therefore I generally like a NASCAR driver if they grew up on dirt. Jeff Gordon, Ryan Newman, Christopher Bell, and Kyle Larson. Kyle is the most talented race car driver in the USA. I wish they would get rid of the playoffs and go back to the old system.
Larson is a wussy
Mee too!!!
Larson should have been moved up!!! That was a whole lot of cheating on the last few laps!!!
Wussy is as Wussy does
The NASCAR organization is nothing but an entertainment business, look at it that way and all the complaining BS will go away!
Pretty clear Bell did "wall ride". Hard to say that Dillon and Chastain were blocking. At one point Chastain almost wrecked Byron, so I dont think Dillon and Chastain did anything wrong.
You are diffantly a Chevy Hendricks fan
@raymondhoffman4371 I am an Elliott fan. All I am saying is Bell's wall ride was obvious. Chastain and Dillon would be in same category of what Wallace did for Bell. Hard to prove anything.
Chevy needs to be investigated for the way this race ended
Blaney has to understand that if it's going to hurt a Ford that's what's going to happen.
Nascar had to make sure that a chevy, preferably a Hendrick chevy made it to the championship 4.
I talked to my congerssman today. We waited at the polls and gave him the petition to investigate the fixed race and all the money lost by legal gamblers. We were assured it will be investigated after the elections. I know other congressmen and senators were given petitions. WE are also asking our state to declare qall the bets made my our citizens cancelled due to the illegally fixed race. We want our money back. I am also joining a group for a class action suit against NASCAR for the fixed race with the leal gamblers being cheated, Hopefully we can make this a bigger lawsuit than the one they have now.
I’d be interested in talking to you. Would you be willing to visit more about what your congressman said?
@@BeatingandBanging I was there but not the spokesperson. We just wanted a lot of representatives because early in the year we bet on the champion. It was just a thousadn dollars, but once the race was fixed I want my money back and betting on NASCAR outlawed in the future as we went through many things Monday to show that it is not a legitmate sport and was fixed throughout the playoffs. Betting is not allowed on WWE for this reason. I can get a copy of the petition I think.
@@BeatingandBanging I was told he said he will look into the situation. The rest was exchanging info for contact later this week or next week. He was not prepared at all for us. WE will know more after he looks into the situation. If he wins. :) Our hope mainly that it will be investigation for congressmens publiicity and that lead to more people joing a class action suit. Should be good publicity taking on NASCAR and gambling companies for the poor working man who lost money because of this.
Can you email me at kyle@beatingandbanging.com?
I like both Custer and Smith.
They needed a Chevy in the final 4 and they used the rules to get it. It’s not about being fair or safe. It’s about money. They should just make the playoffs the final 3 or 6 and take top cars from each manufacturer because they’ll rig it anyway.
Elton is perfect for asscar avoid any obligations to admit strategic planning for outcomes!
Bell should be in an the 24 should be out. Bell's incident was 1 corner where it wasn't done on purpose wasn't near as bad as the 1 and 3 putting up a Chevrolet blockade to keep cars and points behind them. That's the Race MUNIPALATION that nascar should be looking at. They won't take another Hendrick car out of the playoffs but they should.
If Nascar had a brain they would have disqualified the 1 3 24 20 and the 23, that would have sent a message to all the teams that if you try to manipulate the race you would pay the price.
We need stewarts to call penalties like f1 nascar is a joke the 20,24 should be out Larson in
Am I the only one expecting big things from RFK?
About Time Kyle!!🤣🤣
This exposed how shitty the playoffs really are .
Blaney might need anger management therapy after this one! 😂
The casuals are freaking out.
The other things by other teams shouldn't penalize Byron or C Bell there not event on the same team they can't be penalized for other teams!!
Maybe you should call this episode cheating & banging.
NASCAR class action lawsuit for defrauding the public