Michael Heiser - The Nephilim In Light Of The New Testament
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- The Nephilim bloodlines died out according to scripture-for the traditional MT texts, this would be around the time of David. The LXX has the Nephilim, Anakim specifically, dying out a little later, during the prophetic era, the era of the divided monarchy-around as long as the days of Jeremiah. There is no scriptural basis for a continuing Nephilim bloodline beyond the points that they were judged in the OT.
Matthew 24 is the chapter people will bring up-however, there are two fundamental problems with a re-emerging nephilim bloodline idea:
(1) If Matthew really wanted to take our minds back to Genesis 6-what he would do is the same thing he does dozens of other places and what the NT writers do hundreds of other places-they would quote part of the Greek OT, the LXX. If you look at the Greek of Matthew 24, like the terms marrying and given in marriage, does any of that show up in Genesis 6? The answer is no, not a single word of it.
(2) Next, if you look at the entire passage, there are at least four points of description for as were the days of Noah (cf. Matthew 24:37-38).
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Questions on the New Testament that specifically address the ideas behind remnant nephilim (giant clans)-and why the nephilim are sometimes inaptly connected with the end-times or some sort of nephilim-bloodline reemergence narrative.
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"If anyone imagines that he knows something, he does not yet know as he ought to know." ~Paul, 1 Corinthians 8:2
"What you know, may not be so." Biblical parallel there!
"Paul thinks there is a reason to be concerned; there is some sort of possibility here. But we can't convert that possibility in Paul's head to something that would indeed happen." Sorry, but if Paul, who SAW Jesus and was so in touch with the Holy Spirit thinks it is a possibility, then I'm gonna go with Paul on this!! And telling me to have "simple ways of just thinking coherently" does not help.
*_God Bless All who Believe and may the Lord open the eyes of many in Jesus of Nazareth's name, Messiah of all humanity._*
Just wondering if we can hold to the idea of Paul having his own opinion and concerns about fallen angels which are just that : his own informed opinion but not scripture in a sense? Doesn't Paul share his own opinion in some of his letters regarding singleness which is just that: his own informed opinion
Or should we assume that if his letter is scripture then every word he uttered was authorative?
If we decide Paul thought it was a possibility so it definitely was a possibility then Mike is just saying that's not a guarantee of anything happening
“The cause and effect mechanism here is not being taught in First Corinthians 11…Possibilities are just that…They are not actualities.” Dr MSH
Paul didn't see Jesus. He saw a spiritual being that claimed to be Jesus.
It has more to do with The Spirit of the Fallen Giants. The Disembodied spirit's of them.
Michael Heisner, if Paul was, as you say, thinking about the possibility, that a woman( with uncovered head) might arouse a wayward angel, how can you dismiss his concern with by saying "possibility doesn't equal actuality" ? What is the basis of your dismissal of the viewer's question; In 1 Corinthians 11 why did Paul mention the possibility of human women, without head covering tempting Angels into immorality?
I know you don't think Jesus is referring to the nephilim returning, but doesn't Revelations tell us that the imprisoned angels will be let out?? And isn't the various ufo/abduction phenomenon eeriely similar to the nephilim story??
Maybe because Satan has now created hybrids through technology in mixing the seed trying to recreate GMO people like plant splicing animal cloning gene auditing as in Crisper . why it will be worst than the days of Noah . Just something I was thinking about 🙏
Several countries Like Japan, Spain and others came out back in 2015 and 2016 and said they are making animal human hybrids, you can research it to if you doubt me
@@jillmiller1705 oh I don't doubt it one bit. More evidence of DNA contamination as in Noah's time
@Dirk Diggler that sickens me! I did read that it's horrible it's inhumane it's cruel it's disgusting. What we as humans do to try to prolong lived it's just reprehensible! Truly sad
@@suzanrhodes This is for the wealthy I assume. They all want to live forever and can't stand the fact that their flesh will dwell under the ground like all people's flesh
Did Heiser ever address how the hybrids survived the flood?
They came through the flood through the wife of Ham. This is brought out by the story of Ham uncovering the nakedness of his father Noah. It's a weird story which makes it important. The key is who Noah "curses" afterwards. He doesn't curse Ham. Noah curses the son of Ham: Caanan. That is how the seed of the Nephilim survived To This Day. Ancient evil comes through the genes of the wife of Ham and it is the source of human evil in this world: the forbidden union of Spirit and Flesh: The Watchers and the Human Women of their choosing. Enoch 1 has the original story. OT hints at it. Gen 9:18-28 tells you how the flood failed to rid the earth of this evil. Jesus constantly confronts these ancient disembodied spirits casting them out of poor humans. Luke 8:26-39 is my favorite example. Jesus and the disciples and the writers of the New Testament were familiar with Enoch. You should read it as well.
Michael Heiser is a learned gentleman. God Bless!
Sometimes when Heiser is answering a question...he just starts talking in circles that make no sense. .sometimes I even have to go back and look at the name of the video, just so I can remember what the question was...
I agree, it's slightly irritating but also cool at the same time. I have a tendency to ramble when I'm talking about a subject that I'm passionate about, and I honestly feel he rambles like he does in these videos because he's as passionate about the subjects as he is I do have to take periodic breaks from watching this videos though LOL LOL
The problem is that Heiser is in the habit of answering questions from Bible students who are used to Scholar Jargon not lay people. Keep listening to his content. From Chaos to Restoration or Biblical Theology at Knox Seminary. They're over eight hours each. Also read Peer Review Papers. You'll get the hang of it...
That's because he's a gatekeeper and he can't tell the whole truth.
@@matsumoku1 That's Revealing, how Little you know about Scholarship...
@@matsumoku1 I tend to agree with you, and to Brother Chris rco (who responded to you below-who is trying to act as if he has more knowledge than you) that you don't know about Scholarship...Well Scholars ARE gatekeepers! They try to put stuff in SO many technical terms that nobody knows what the heck they are talking about. For example, women aka midwives have been delivering babies since time began...but what did they do to discourage people from using mid-wives or from delivering their own babies?...They start using all these technical terms (to scare you)...They required a diploma, a license, technical terms for the baby and the process, 10+ years of school, etc just to be able to deliver a baby! It is ALL a game of Evil, Lies and Greed!
I don’t think we have giants as we did in the Old Testament; however Jude verses 3 and 4 let us know that Paul is speaking of more than a “possibility” when he states, “Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints. 4 For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” (ESV) I think we have folks seating next to church folks that are a part of that evil bloodline of the Nephilim; this time they may look like you and me. Again Jude is obviously speaking in the context of Genesis 6. What do you guys think?
I would like to suggest that you listen to Chuck Missler on this subject.
Hmm that sounded a little rude on my part and I did not intend that.
So let me rephrase that I think that you would find Chuck missler's work on the Nephilim both past and present and to come really interesting and quite thoroughly research.
Chuck is a genius he's got like about a 165 IQ are headed by 165 IQ he passed away 3 years ago. At the age of six or seven he became slightly interested in the Bible and at the age of 15 he just drove into it headfirst and became obsessed with it and it was his Hobby and his relaxation to study the mysteries in the Bible. He's probably what is the most brilliant Bible scholars I've ever listened to.
To get actually speak read and write Hebrew Latin paleo Hebrew and Greek
Yes luv!
In connection with Christ’s use of the phrase ‘marrying and given into marriage’, if this is not referring to the watcher’s perverse sexual sin of cohabitation with women, from Gen 6:1-4, as Dr Heiser states the Matt 24 passage would only be picking out one link per say from four categories, I would argue Jesus’ use of the phrase ‘eating and drinking’ can be discerned with understanding as code language for idolatry emphasis rather than business as usual which many infer in teaching the passage.
This idolatry links to Romans 1 and Christ’s further elaboration as recoded in Luke, where He states, as it was in both the days of Noah and Lot.
Whereas Lot’s case gets us into the writings of both Peter and Jude concerning the angels that sinned linking to what occurred in Sodom and Gomorrah...IE: going after strange flesh.
And Jude’s use of the angels that left their first estate (habitation) illuminates the antithesis of what mankind in Christ ascribes to in 2 Cor 5:1-4
Also SEE Matt 24:38 in light of
1 Cor 10:7 regarding “eating and drinking” as Code language for idolatry.
The point being, if Christ’s warning in Matt 24 is merely to illustrate that people at the end of this age will be caught awares while conducting business as usual, this idea does not align with the causation that brought about the flood Judgement in the first place and weakens the intent of Christ’s warning in Matt 24 and other NT passages.
What was the trigger event in the days of Noah for global judgment? All flesh has been corrupted. In Matt 24, Jesus states that had the days not been shortened -NO FLESH would be saved... iE - 100% Adamic stock, human dna
But it’s not our flesh that is saved in its fallen condition.
What was it during the days of Lot-happening in Sodom and Gomorrah that serves as an eternal warning?
If Jesus warning, though cryptic, “as it was in the days of Noah, is not a nephilim referent for us to discern, this would in my opinion contradict Dr. Heiser’s own position that the Gen 6 incident is in fact one of three escalations for the proliferation of mankind’s sin that Jesus had to undo as messiah...
We see this idea reverberated in 1 John 3:8-9
Why must there be a Septuagint referent to understand Jesus’ prophecy in Matt 24 or elsewhere? Truly the NT reveals what the OT conceals. The underlying context of the days of Noah is the sin of the watchers...
There is nothing new under the sun. Given mankind’s propensity for playing god with his genetics, we can see glimpses of the days of Noah and Lot happening once again with acceleration.
Paul's thrust is about authority ordained by God - headship. God - Christ - man - woman. He is 'speaking' by the Holy Spirit.
God's order of things need to be upheld regardless of opinion.
Peter says that a husband's prayers would be hindered by not honouring their wives. Holy angels are sent by God to serve on behalf of saints. They are used by God to assist in answering prayer - and whatever else God deems necessary.
It is possible that Paul has this thought in mind.
Thank you for your words, I agree with you
Michael heizer is not concise in what he says for example of peripheral roundabout not direct kind of way. He is very confusing. And God is not a god of confusion.
Then, In such case, God wouldn’t have inspired Paul to write what he did, and neither would God have made sure that it remained in His Word from then to the present.
If The Father said He wiped out the giants, then He wiped them out! God doesn't make mistakes. EVER!
So...the Elephant Man was on purpose...
It is entirely possible that they were wiped out by David at that point Biblically. In Revelations it also speaks of the fallen being released from the Abyss before the second coming of Christ. That would mean that the Nephilim were destroyed but the conditions that created them in the first place may come about again for a short time. The writings are warnings to be diligent not to be recieved at that point in time. The two things do not arbitrarily oppose each other. Every 7 years after they all die off swarms of locust reappear. They are a blight that returns. Paul warns of that possibility and never contends they were not wiped out the first time.
* decieved not recieved- sorry fat fingers
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Gen.6:4 the Nephilim where on the earth in those days and also afterwards
The Bible says there were Nephilum before AND AFTER the flood.
Yeah there were giants. Giants are just tall human beings. Not half angel half human lol.
See my comment above to
@seaknightvirchow8131
Jasher and Jubilees will give more light on that subject.
The only other place in scripture where these references in Matthew are found specifically are in Enoch.
"As in the days of Noah" seems like a specific reference.
Possibility of anything can not exist if the necessary actors are extinct. Either scripture is inspired or its out of Paul's head. So, which is it?
Paul was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Possible to be that paul wasn't going to or able to explain the details of genetic manipulation in which the attempt to bring back the race of nephilim was to come in the future. Also, possible that too much information revealed would be a way that the enemy may glean something that would benefit his cause. I don't know, but seems possible.
It does not say though that the nephilim did not flee to other parts of the world. It says, in the land which I say means locally.
Especially because native tribes in america have tons of lore about red haired giants picking up buffalo and eating them.
Don’t they have records of Giants in the Americas since after the New Testament?
Giant skeleto remains are every where. The museums and institutions conceal this.
Michael is the expert. I am only a flunky searching for truth in a fallen world.
Why would museums and institutions conceal evidence of giants existing?
The uber powerful and wealthy have an agenda of a one-world-government. Anything that supports the bible narrative is a no no. Conceal history ( proof) then it's easier to control what people believe. Is not conspiracy its strategy.
You have to first define giants. We have “giants” now. People who exceed 7-8 feet in height. If you’re talking like 30foot monsters. There’s simply no evidence for it. No matter how you spin it.
Yes I'm reading a book right now called 'The Ancient Giants who ruled America: The missing skeletons and the great Smithsonian cover-up', it has newspaper articles from the 1800's and early 1900's of giant Indian tribes being dug up, some of them had double rows of teeth
Heiser is sharp but overconfident. It mentions nowhere that all the nephilim were destroyed. There’s overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Khandahar giant. Leif Ericsson chronicles. Smithsonian coverup. Patterson gimlin. He’s way off here. And he misses a massive reference in Matthew 24.
With all due respect, I have heard that there is no corroborating evidence for the Khandahar giant story, and I read in a comment online on a similar bigfoot story that a version of that tale has circulated for decades. Now, being a die hard bigfoot guy, yeah, I think there is a definite possibility that's what the Squatch are.
The flood didn't fully wipe out the nephilim, we see evidence of this with David and Goliath... David also brought 5 stones, not because he was going to miss, but because there were 4 more with Goliath... 🤔
@Chairman Dan interesting insight 🤔
Heiser is quite sharp. I have to hand it to him on many levels. I agree with the train of thought you are taking though. I've put literally hundreds of hours of study into these things and giantology. No way were those genetics obliterated. Which reference in Mathew 24 ? I'm not an expert on scripture like Heiser but christian scripture is only one piece of the puzzle...but mostchristians would never admit that and therein lies their downfall in my opinion.
@Chairman Dan To say that his judgement failed assumes that every nephilim had to die. It isn't that the angels did the same thing, but that one son of Noah (Ham) is specifically connected to the post-Fall nephilim more than once. The semitic people groups we later see nephilim come from are sons of Ham for example (all of the Canaanites - and they inhabited Sodom and/or Gomorrah according to the genealogies; then there's Nimrod at Babel). Thus, the most logical conclusion is that Ham had a nephilim wife who was spared, likely on account of the family, on account of Noah's righteousness - as happened later on with Lot and Lot's family.
The idea that angels were tempted by women doesn't sound right, as if they were "tempted" by the woman. Is that what original text implies? These angels were fallen angels, were they not? I don't see angels as "tempted" because they're not like humans. I see they that they saw, like what they saw, and went for it. I don't think Paul's concern with head coverings relates to angelic temptation, but men ,
The Watchers were tired of watching ha ha
HI
NO WAY was Paul warning women of a merely ' Hypothetical' possibility! And check out L.A. Marzuli on the Nephilim in Peru and elsewhere. Shalom to us only in Christ Yeshua.
I always think that when Jesus said, "As it was in the days of Noah so shall it be . . ." that one of the possibilities might be a return of the nephilim. Especially when one considers, the current monkeying around with the human genome, world level congresses on transhumanism, and movies like "City of Angels" telling the story of angels leaving their domain.
Hmm, interesting. Never thought about that!
Why does he keep repeating himself . Im hoping by the third time of his explanation we are smart enough to get it.
The fact that Paul is concerned about it implies it is a potential. So why is it still a potential.
You might wanna look into the confirmed validated by multiple sources account of a spec ops unit encountering a 15 foot red haired giant with 6 fingers and 6 toes in the caves of Kandahar Afghanistan.
yes...one of the survivors of that day...one of the soldiers I pray will have courage and sit down and do an interview with someone and give their testimony.??
@@stumeister6891 a few have come forward but nothing on a big platform, the government doesn't want ppl to know nephilim of all kinds still exist because it cannot be explained away by evolution. It proves the Bible is true
I think Heiser is a gatekeeper. He bursts on the scene to explain this and give it a more" normal" spin. The weirdness is far greater than Heiser admits. When people started to become aware of the real meaning of Genesis, the elite got scared.
@@matsumoku1 true, well said
Goliath from the Bible was around 9ft tall.
It does say the flood took them away but it also says some snuck in unaware
"As in the days of Noah.."
The head coverings issue is metaphorical, I think. It is in the interest of modesty. Paul says it that way because the people on Corinth would have certainly known the Enoch story. Context is key.
Jasher and Jubilees gives more detail on that very subject.
Jesus said It shall be like in the Days of Noah! Period!
No, that's not what he said; particularly not with that period.
Who was David fighting then? Who was the giant?
Then what are your thought on these massive extensive megalithic structures all over the world and in the oceans??
There was a Marvel comic book character called the Watcher.
captain enoch 📖
It’s possibility. Could a “angel” currently loyal use its free will to rebel and do a 2.0 event? Yes, and that’s basically what different strands of occultism have tried to replicate since the original event.
You all got to STOP Listening to Bil Bob's Website and Rob Skiba...
I did
I wonder what u think about Daniel's dream of the statue ? I understand , myself, that in the days , the feet mean the end time. In that case the words ( and their seed will mingle with man ) means that the Angel's will be doing the same things they did before. That's how I understand it.
The presumption of what Paul is thinking was an intellectual mistake.
Austin Bazil
Indeed. This is the first time I’ve ever disagreed with Dr. Heiser.
Yep.
A straightforward reading of the passage would be modesty in the assembly re: others in the assembly. Bringing wayward angels into the interpretation is a step, Paul just advising based on his mistaken personal assumption about those supposed wayward angels is a further step that begins to hit at the inspiration of the text. Paul wasn't usually shy about laying out reasons in his positions. Since he's silent there in the text on that point, I'll skip the two steps added and go with the context of the passage itself. Subject to other scriptural light of course
Here is the wisdom, the seed is sown in the field with the tares. What are the tares? Are they here, yes! do they hold high places yes! they have always sort them. They are still here the word tells U that.
“For truly man was not created on account of the woman, but woman on account of the man; because of this, the woman ought to have authority on the head, on account of the angels.”
The argument here is about the proper relationship between men, women, and God - specifically in the context of communal prayer. To take the “on account of the angels” and (it seems) almost absolutize that clause, and (on top of that), to interpret that clause specifically to be about angelic sexual enticement when there’s no such indication in the epistle, is a big big stretch.
Great video.
Also, where did you get the thumbnail picture from please?
God bless you ✝️📜
It's a badass photo right?
@@lemonadeutube A great picture, symbolic of YHWH being triumphant over all false deities. Only YHWH is God and only YHWH is fully worthy or our praise and worship. Amen ✝️📜
Why would Jesus himself say that the situation during His coming will be just like in the days of Noah if the connection was "indirect"?
Heiser is overthinking this.
Sometimes word definitions and hermeneutics (oh please, stop using that word, you're a scholar, we already get it) are very useful.
But sometimes, you just got to step back, look around your surroundings, observe current events and see the signs presented in your modern environment that parallels prophetic descriptions.
The Pfizer, Moderna and to some degree, the AstraZeneca COVID vaccines are bio-engineered mRNA vaccines. The Chinese and the Russian ones are old-school, weakened (attenuated) actual virus vaccines. This example, among many other examples, already tells you something is going on and that something parallels some event in human history that gave rise to the pre-Flood situation.
Disappointed the good Dr. is disregarding what Yeshua son of Nun did and other ancient writings about giants.
Maybe Paul meant,tin foil hat,to counter fallen angels abduction?
Not all nephlilm are Giants Gabriel didn't kill all of them off
There may be no evidence biblically but there certainly is physically and historically throughout the world. Much physical evidence of giants
Well I would ask the question, "Was eating, drinking, and being given into marriage the reason why God flooded the earth?" On a basic level...no. But on a evil oppressive level, yes. It is not about who, but the action. The Nephilim were conquering humanity, trashing civilization and partying over it. The Nephilims became kings/heros and their dads, the fallen Sons of God. They were marrying who they want, doing what they want, while sipping wine on their thrones. So I believe when Jesus says,"As in the days of Noah." He is speaking of evil powers acting like lords over humanity and especially the saints. Which is the atmosphere throughout the book of Revelation.
There is reference to them after the flood. Read carefully. "And also after that" Genesis 6:4 reads as follows: The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.🤔 NB This scripture also says who the Nephilim were. The mighty MEN that were of old, the MEN of renown. Not aliens 👽 Not imagined half-breed humman/demon concoctions. MEN! So, if some people want to imagine angels have the power to recreate themselves fully equipped with male genitals and sperm compatible with human seed then their 'god' may as well be carved in wood. God, the real one with an upper case G is quite different to that. If one bothers to read the Bible that soon becomes obvious.
Ya, but Heiser is saying after the flood that David and his mighty men etc. destroyed them all which I just don't see as happening. Not when it clearly states there were some left in Gath, Ashdod and gaza. Not to mention those that surely escaped. See my above comment.
You can't in any way know what was in Paul's mind please stop
Paul had the mind of Christ, so do we as believers...........
so we will always be a harmony and flow with the way the writers thought.
this is obvious to believers, so whats your problem
I agree, why did he even bring it up as a regulation in the church
Helpfully, Paul wrote words which can be interpreted, and, therefore, we can actually come to understand what he’s thinking.
I give alot of credit to Heiser. I have to. That said, I think it stands to reason that the nephilim genetic still persists on some level. We still get people to this day with many of the traits. I've seen them. I know some of them. We know the elioud existed for one.. Life will always find a way and the nephilim were a life form. They may never be quite the same but even a god like yaweh would have to work within certain physical and universal guidelines and one of those is life will always find a way to survive and propagate. The nephilim spread their seed far and wide and tribes of their ilk escaped to distant lands during the exodus exterminations. There is some compelling evidence for this. Many giant bones and odd skulls have been found the world over, some very recently. Moreover, their DNA is contained within their remains and in tombs to be certain. Why do you think the Smithsonian and Vatican hide those bones? There is clear evidence even by their own records that they do. Why do you think they clammed up on the discovery of the tomb of Gilgamesh, whisked his remains away without so much as a photo after stating they found them? So much more going on. Furthermore, what if we take Rephaim as undead disembodied spirits, sons below, what have you- and they can possess the living to have a corporeal experience? What if that can change DNA or awaken unexpressed genetic material? Maybe divine angelic experience can do the same in a benevolent way. There is some science at least that lends credence to such a postulation as far out as it may sound. All is just energy. I don't pretend to know and neither should anyone else.
Why does God have to operate in the rules of nature (such as biological or physics) that He created for us?
Life does not always find a way. This is why there are so many extinct animals and plant species.
The important thing is that for the purpose of male lineage from Adam, Noah and his three sons had human DNA. This is why many people can find some neanderthal autosomal genes in their DNA, no living person after the flood had or has non-Adamic Y-DNA, since only autosomal remnants were carried forward through Noah and his three sons.
If Christians would consider the Semerian texts as historical they might consider the Nephilim are the results of Ananakki interference.
Not the off spring of women and fallen angels who were the men of old, men of renown.
What were called the Nephilim in the OT were produced by cross-breeding. The same might be achieved via molecular biological means in the 21st century.
Well. At least if the nephelliam are around. They have to forget on holding in to the boat. This time around.
The fallen "angels" were destroyed at the end of the Old Covenant in 70AD.
And just by Coincidence you happen to push the Sethite Theory...
Genesis 6:4. Says The Bene Elohim where here Before and After the Flood and None of became a Rephiam... Men are Son's of Adam and Angels are the Bene Elohim or Son's of God...
You can go to other places than da bible to get knowledge how da elite operates with fallen watchers thru tech.. da bible is not a science book,so if ye want answeres how far our tech really have come listen to those that work w thos things. Heiser say Elohim is also sons of god(fallen and not fallen).those are they in contact with today..heavily
Nice to know...but then again...what to do about
this knowledge Mr. Heiser?...and how?..and
will it succeed? Actions will always be better
than words...too much knowledge...limited action.
Almost a waste of time. Just almost
but nothing is lost.
Too many alien abduction stories about sexual experimentation and hybrids, Mike...
Excellent point, however with many of these supposed Nephilim/hybrids, I think we must be wary that much of it is plain old Mark I demonic shenanigans. What is the goal of a demon? To deceive you.
Patrick McDonald
True, they deceive us, but remember, this has always been a seed war. A generic war.
Genesis 3:15
I agree, Patrick. But I think you meant to say “genetic”?
@@steven3775 , I believe your comment was directed at Omni Codex, who used my name is a comment. He made the statement that was supposed to be genetic war.
Yes even in ancient texts
Dr Heiser... brilliant and certainly a theologian for our times... in that same breath... says comments like "Paul is thinking"... starts to imply the guidance, utterance witnessing of the Holy Ghost is lesser or even a non- factor...1 Timothy 3:16... Thank you God for Dr MH ministry...
Watch Babylon Rising Robb S he breaks a lot of it down with Nimrod
Dr Hauser , you need cut to all the scholarly bull crap and just stick to the basic truth, the more I watch you the more I start to disagree with certain things and you sound like your winging it, you always got an answer for something even when it's ok to not have an answer, smh I can't find truth anywhere on the internet
You can! Look up Chuck Missler.
@@RobertKramer17 Chuck missler is the man
Michael Heiser you need to go read The Book of Enoch 1 to help you solve the mysteries of the Bible. It will reveal the truth about the fallen angels and the cosmology of this Earth we have been lied to It's Time that we wake up and search for the truth it is out there if you really want it.
I thought Jesus said the anti Christ was already present while He was alive
The anti-christ are the ones who reject Him, the beast in prophecy is the leader of them
Okay, but it was in Paul’s mind yet Holy Spirit inspired when he inked it biblically.
Why warn against something that’s not possible? Holy Spirit inspired, again, by the way.
Example. Bible warns against the practice of witchcraft. Black magic. Why? It’s possible.
Bible warns against talking to the dead. Necromancy. Why? It’s possible. Example: Saul went to a witch and spoke to a deceased Samuel. Now many will say well that was a fimilar spirit or what not. Okay cool, but the Bible says Samuel. That it was Samuel. So why does the Bible warn against such things. Possible.
1 Samuel 28:15 (NKJV)
Now Samuel said to Saul, “Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?” And Saul answered, “I am deeply distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God has departed from me and does not answer me anymore, neither by prophets nor by dreams. Therefore I have called you, that you may reveal to me what I should do.”
“Now Samuel said to Saul”
First...I do not subscirbe to Heiser's interpretation of the head coverings issue. It is mere speculative...no real proof, and he himself admitted to that fact.
See John MacArthur's commentary on that issue.
Also...1st & 2nd Corinthians are predominately "Historical" Narratives, like Acts.
The key word is "Predominantly!"
They are NOT predominately "Teaching Letters," though certainly containing teaching passages.
I believe when Paul says, "I know of no other teachings in the churches" (1 Cor. 11), that he is speaking about the Gentile Churches that he himself established, though I reserve the right to be wrong (as Heiser himself has stated), and this leads to MacArthur's commentary about why a woman in a Gentile church would have a shaved head. It has to do with her prior pagan practice , and so does the issue of "tongues" and its abuse in the Corinthian church.
We do not "offer food sacrificed to idols," but this, too, in contained in Paul's letter to the Corinthians, and it was obviously in the historical context of that time.
That does not mean I throw the baby out with the bathwater. There is much I do appreciate about Heiser's ministry.
That said...The giant "gene" clearly made it through the flood, and there have been many modern day archeological discoveries concerning the bones of giant human beings, which has also been rightly stated in these comments!
I think the alien abduction phenomena is a return of that situation. I don't think that it's due to lust so much as building up Satan's army.
This explanation rules out the fact that the Holy Spirit wrote the letters to the Corinthians. Paul was just the pen!
If you say there are absolutely no nephilim after David you are calling a great number of people liars
I don't think that Paul was speaking about angels of God possibly feeling attracted by women who show their hair. We assume that angels are always around, not just in the church building. So, there are multiple occasions where they can see women with their hair uncovered and even completely naked. I think he was talking about messengers of some sort. But it might have been some specific messengers that were in Corinth and it would only make sense for the people in Corinth. We can only speculate.
kadda1212 no not accurate. And out of context either. Paul is clearly speaking about spiritual beings here. He is giving an advice, looking more like a warning, to women to be head-covered because of sensual spirits, or some spirits that would get enticed and link itself to her.
There is a reason why women in the middle age Europe or the early Middle East were head-covered in day time or at night time and for CENTURIES!!!!!
All three monotheistic religions adopted that same social and personnal behaviour. WHY?
Because of these spirits called at time "succubus".
You actually need to listen to Heiser's head covering teaching here on TH-cam to fully understand why this was the case. It has to do with ANE beliefs of fertility and fecundity. Once you understand that, it makes perfect sense.
Nephlilm doesn't mean giant a smart dude like you should know that and Enoch is bunk didn't even appear to the late Macabean period
Jesus will send his testimony into their congregational council at the end. but it is complete celestial I suppose.
I've never taken these things "Nephilim" seriously, it's just old fantastical myth.
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In Joshua there is mention of raphaim. If raphaim were giants the nephalim could be the watchers of Enoch.
Raphists ?
For a woman to have her head covered means to have Jesus over her. Over her head. Because of the angels; fallen angels that will occur in the end times.
Sounds like Heiser dodges the question here. I couldn’t really tell if he thinks that today, “the angels” could possibly still be tempted by female head of hair (her “testicle”) or not.
The isis gene isnt a human gene....still is in royal bloodlines
ABOUT REBEL RULE !!
MISINTERPRETED BIBLE QUOTES !!!!
First of all there were no rulers before the flood! The first ruler of the Bible to be mentioned is Nimrod who appears after the Flood and who is referred to in the Bible as "the will of JHVH a mighty hunter! Whence then does the thesis that he is ruler of Satan's power? Anglomorphism, that is, forbidden hybrids are difficult questions and apocryphal literature is used.The real and very important question is - who is the one who determines what is apocryphal and what is authentic canon ??
The Bible says God has given every nation a ruler and Israel is his heritage !! According to Mr. Michael Hesser, power is held by Satan, that is, fallen sons of God! but are they so? true, the prince of this world is mentioned, but he is the prince of those who acknowledge him and are subject to him. But that does not mean that he rules the rulers. The book of wisdom clearly states: Evil has no power against wisdom and the underworld does not rule the earth because righteousness is immortal !! God is the One who sets the authorities and sets them up for the reason that Evil does not rule and not vice versa as Heiser has set it !! In the Acts of the Apostles, Paul clearly shows this when he says that God has spread all humanity over the whole surface of the earth and assigned them feasts and given seasons and boundaries to seek and find a God who is not far from them !! So, God gives boundaries - authority in this sense, not in the construction of the towering tower of Babylon that Heiser sees everywhere in the world, except in Israel. But the fact is that Babylon as an influence also took place in Israel itself. Moses even tells other nations that God loves the nations and that their saints lie at his feet led by him. So, does Heiser think the fallen angels lead the nations? For example- Didn't the prophet Daniel prevent the emperor from killing the Babylonian wizards because they did not know how to interpret the dream?
Satan himself portrays and inflates himself as one who rules the world and gives authority to whom he wants and seeks recognition and gift, but Jesus has revealed it. Why then does anyone persistently claim that Satan rules the world ?? Where did he get that? The Epistles make it clear: obey every human institution, be it the king, for the supreme was the governor, because God sends them to punish evil and reward the good! Then, it says:
to pray for the authorities in this regard. It is clear that in this sense they serve the authorities and that they have a responsibility to God, and that is why when they fulfill the measure of their responsibility, God changes them. So, where did Heiser then Satanize power? does he believe so much in the power of evil spirits when he gives them so much importance ?? and why did he infect many with his thesis?
The power of the Beast is to appear at the very end for a short time, but only when God allows it.
Bailon is a symbol of the material of all things worse than the revolt of rebellion, the corruption of infidelities and treasonous secret covenants as images of adultery and betrayal, and symbolized by numerous rings as images of treason and adultery as secret covenants on the hand of the Babylonian harlot, and this refers to potential underground forces rather than levels authorities.
Contrary to this material is good material in the image of the heavenly Jerusalem that Babylon imitates and wants to recapture that place in the image of rebellion and wars against that order and the state of things.
The problem is Heiser interpreting texts as a priori evidence in meaning. A typical form of professional determinism that has closed into its terminological ghetto, losing context and all other relationships. First of all, exegesis is not itself a dominant interpretation of the text, it is only aids, I repeat aids. If Mr. Heiser thinks he is in place of Pope e Catedra then he is, and I have to write it - thoughtful.
After death, a will is given, and after death, after the resurrection and before the ascension, Jesus gave Peter the keys of authority before the other witnesses, which means interpretations, and that is where the certainty of teaching rests, not even in the scriptures. Let us not forget that the Scriptures were created later and made possible by the Church without which we would have neither the canon nor the main truths of faith. If Jesus had not left the security of transmission through the Church, all would be questionable, and this is well evident from the numerous denominations of Protestants. Paul writes because the Church is the pillar and the foundation of truth, therefore the Church as ssingular and not plural !! And the Church is a visible dimension like Israel, which in the Old Testament is God's visible choice despite all its weaknesses and unbelief.
Does Heiser know this, for example. The heart of the king is in the hand of JHVH like water of water, and he takes it wherever he wants! so how much more does this apply to Peter and his successors? Or in the king's mouth is a prophecy, and in judgment he will not go wrong !! Q how much does Peter when ex catedra performs ?? of course in matters of faith and morals.
Or if even Caiaphas prophesied for Jesus and was not even aware of it, how much more does that certainty relate to Peter and his successors? Well, human unbelief cannot destroy God's faithfulness!
@Abhad Niegero Truth is not sought as orthographic truth or truth determined in a concept or a limited concept: Likewise, exegesis, that is, textual interpretations, for example, is not more dominant in the interpretation of the text, but a service set by God and inspired by him and in that lies security. if Jesus had not left this certainty as a guarantee of a reliable transmission of the content of the faith everything would later be relative and anyone could later claim some version of their own e.g. You are obviously lost and very alienated and unhappy in yourself. Likewise, knowing God does not mean intimacy with God, and knowledge often inflates and thus alienates from intimate approach to God: God did not reveal himself as the people of the book but by chosen ministries and before written books and begins as the God of the fathers: the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob! therefore, according to the key of number three, because the Supreme Truth is the Triune God whose Name is constantly sanctified three times in heaven (Isaiah 6) and in whose Name we are baptized as in the Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit !! and this is derived from the old Hebrew principle that the truth is proved on the basis of two or three valid witnesses and not as the insane claim that the truth lies in the mysterious meanings of the letters which are ciphers. Such fall into the trap of abusing the Name of God, which they understand magically, for example, Talmudism is a deviation from the explicit prohibitions of occult meanings, and God has set it to be a trap for those who unworthily approach the true meaning and distort it. the prophets constantly warned against this, and it was a recidivism of an old pagan man with the expression of pagan parallelism: Eg: Abraham was circumcised by an old Chaldean man and stripped the old man and clothed the new and the adducees who syncretized the ancient Chaldean beliefs with the Egyptian teachings and the Kannan pantheon
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I hope the person speaking here is NOT a pastor otherwise I feel so sorry for the sheep that has to listen to someone so humanism such this....!
A lot of hot air flying around…completely puffs around the question at 5:01 . Weak. Heiser is a real know-it-all…and it smacks of pride, loudly.
Dr. Heiser was credentialed and experienced but not infallible, his Nephilology wasn’t biblical, and he tended to create more problems than he solved-see these articles for examples:
Review of Amy Richter and Michael Heiser on four Enochian Watcher related women in Jesus’ genealogy
Rebuttal to Dr. Michael Heiser’s “All I Want for Christmas is Another Flawed Nephilim Rebuttal”
For me that passage about head covering, "for the sake of the angels", is because the angels know the order of man and women as the order is in heaven. Man was formed in the image of God. Woman formed from man.
this guy's equivocation abilities are amazing. probably works for the CIA.
There are lots of Bigfoot "people" almost for sure in every state. What are they?
Beware of Heiser... according to his own words he doesn’t “have an original thought.” He gets all his opinions from “peer reviewed” material.
Agreed. The context has seems to suggest the timing and suddenness of the event.
It will come suddenly
Unbelievers will be caught astounded at the events unfolding just like they were when the flood hit.
John 14:6
The Lord Jesus reigns
Psalms 28:9
Save us Lord and carry us forever
Nephilim and watchers = silly waste of time.
Brendan Hall why?
Life is short, we should all focus on clinging to Jesus
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