This is probably the most educated and well put breakdown of this subject I've ever watched. It drives me mental when cheistians say to take the bible literally, but when it comes to this subject want to say it wasnt literal 🤦♀️ nothing of the context in the scriptures about the nephilim signify it was metaphorical and not literal. So happy i accidentally came across this video and will definitely be saving to share with people in the future!
Me too, sweetheart. I read about them in my early 20’s and recently recalled it after receiving the Holy Spirit for the first time in early December of 2023. Love to Jesus and his grace. God Bless you.
@@RightResponseMinistries The teaching on Watchers as angels is false in Daniel 4, you Neocon Christians need help on this subject. Watchers Daniel 4 Explained!! They are NOT angels!! The degree comes from the THRONE!! Watchers Daniel 4, The chapter is actually FULL of the Trinity>>>Father, Son, Holy Spirit. The Watchers are the Father and the Son of the Trinity, not angels. The book of Enoch and 2nd temple liturature are misleading and give a Jewish mindset of Daniel 4. Christians should view this Christ minded and with the Trinity included. Let's look into this chapter, first with the verses where Watcher/Watchers are used, which is used 3 times is the chapter, Let's look into this divided up in three sections (A, B, and C) SECTION A: Watchers/Holy Ones used Three times each pointing to a Trinity in Daniel 4 and are paired together. 13 “I saw in the visions of my head as I lay in bed, and behold, a WATCHER, a holy one, came down from heaven. 17 "The sentence is by the decree of the WATCHERS, the decision by the word of the holy ones, to the end that the living may know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will and sets over it the lowliest of men.’ 23 And because the king saw a WATCHER, a holy one, coming down from heaven and saying, ‘Chop down the tree and destroy it, but leave the stump of its roots in the earth, bound with a band of iron and bronze, in the tender grass of the field, and let him be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven periods of time pass over him,’ Actually the Watchers would be the Father and Son, they are the Holy ones, Not angels. Daniel tells us in Daniel 4 :24 "this is the interpretation, O king: It is a decree of the Most High, which has come upon my lord the king," The king and lord of Daniel was king Nebuchadnezzar. The answer of the "decree of the Watchers" in Daniel 4:13, a person has to continue reading Daniel's interpretation and the answer of who the Watchers are is found in Daniel 4:24>>>"it is a decree of the Most High". So it is impossible for angels to be the Watchers, becasue angels are NEVER referred to as the 'Most High", the Title and Status belong to God/Elohim pointing to the Father and the Son. When looking at Daniel 4: 13, 17, and 23, Watchers/Watcher and Holy Ones/Holy One is always "PAIRED Together" meaning this is about the Father and the Son. This Lord God Himself is the ONE who the decree comes from, right from the throne of God, The Kingom of Heaven. The throne is of the Father in Heaven and the Holy One (Watcher) that came down from Heaven would be the Son (Jesus)>>>>Daniel 4:13. Remember this is all in Nebuchadnezzar's head in a dream/vision that he saw while he was laying in his bed. God would speak and communicate with Nebuchadnezzar through visions and dreams. The Bible gives NO mention of angels having authority to to have decisions and make decrees, Only the Father and Son who share in that authority make the decree that is made in Heaven that come from the Throne of God. Angels may have witnessed this in Heaven, but have NO Authority. This explains the plurality of the Watchers which would be the Father (Watcher/Holy One from the throne and the Son (Watcher/Holy One coming down from Heaven. Notice that Holy Ones are uses also 3 times and are linked to the Watchers>>>>Daniel 4:13 “I saw in the visions of my head as I lay in bed, and behold, a WATCHER, a Holy One, came down from heaven. 17 "The sentence is by the decree of the WATCHERS, the decision by the word of the Holy Ones, to the end that the living may know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will and sets over it the lowliest of men.’ 23a And because the king saw a WATCHER, a Holy One, coming down from heaven and saying, SECTION B: "spirit of the holy gods" is used Three Times pointing to a Trinity in Daneil 4 8 At last Daniel came in before me-he who was named Belteshazzar after the name of my god, and in whom is the spirit of the holy gods-and I told him the dream, saying, 9 “O Belteshazzar, chief of the magicians, because I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in you and that no mystery is too difficult for you, tell me the visions of my dream that I saw and their interpretation. 18 This dream I, King Nebuchadnezzar, saw. And you, O Belteshazzar, tell me the interpretation, because all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known to me the interpretation, but you are able, for the spirit of the holy gods is in you.” Looking at these verse brings up another question about the Holy Spirit, these verse in Daniel 4, it mentions 3 times that the Spirit is in Daniel, so the Holy Spirit is indwelling Daniel. 1) " in whom is the spirit of the holy gods">>>>Verse 8 2) "I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in you" >>>>>Verse 9 3) " but you are able, for the spirit of the holy gods is in you.”>>>>>Verse 18 All three of these times Nebuchadnezzar is telling this to Daniel. Notice how this is written "spirit of the holy gods is IN you." Does no say "upon" or "overshadowing you.", clearly says the "Spirit" is in Daniel. As Christians we are told that the Holy Spirit never indwelt in the OT, but only in the NT. SECTION C: Most High/King of Heaven Most High 6 times is used and then followed and ends with King of Heaven used 1 time in Daniel 4, when a person totals this up is the number SEVEN, which is the complete number of God. 2 It has seemed good to me to show the signs and wonders that the >>>>Most High GodMost High>Most High,Most High>>Most High>Most High,>King of Heaven,
Pastor Joel, I love how you touch on so many of these Biblical topics that most churches avoid like the plague, and how you'll even say Augustine, Luther and/or Calvin were wrong if they disputed one of these topics without even bothering to offer a proper explanation or alternative, something most Calvinists would be too afraid to touch. Lastly my favorite internet preachers were Chuck Missler and Michael Heiser. I'm not sure about how you felt about Dr. Missler, but I get the feeling you had lots of respect for Dr. Heiser. Anyway, I have the same proper respect for you and I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos. I admire "courage" and I view you as a man of courage. Not only my favorite preachers NOW, but historically as well (John the Baptist, Elijah et al.) were all men of God, men of courage, and my favorite prophets and preachers in the Bible. I count you amongst that group. Courageous, as in: unafraid to speak your mind regardless of how the truth portrays you with the world.
Dr Heiser wasn't mentioned in the last interview so I'm glad his work was brought up briefly as he was the one who introduced me to these ideas several years ago.
Heiser was a blasphemer who believed his opinion about the word of God was more accurate than the word of God itself. Heiser was a tremendously arrogant man who never met the conditions to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit (Humility, Repentance, & Confession of Sin) so he spent a lot of time speaking against the Holy Spirit. He spent a lot of time drawing attention to himself and diverting attention away from God by usurping the authority of the Holy Spirit. I encourage you to look up Heisers "Top 10 Myths of Bible Study" and pay attention to number 7. There you will discover Heiser did not believe in the power of the Holy Spirit and considered anyone who has received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit to be a liar. He doesn't even understand the nature of the event itself. Heiser was FULL OF UNBELIEF that he replaced with non-biblical views DESIGNED TO DECEIVE. Be warned. If you want a teacher of the scriptures, I only recommend two people, Derek Prince and the Holy Spirit Himself.
"Behold how good and how pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity" Psa. 133:1 Thank you both for this informative discussion. Though having points of disagreement in your views you handled yourselves like true brothers and examples of godly discourse. So wonderful to see.
Please, please, please do a podcast on the differences and significances of hell, Sheol, hades, Lake of fire, etc. that would be fascinating and enlightening. Thank you
Hell, sheol (hebrew) , hades(Greek) mean the grave. This is referred to as the common resting place of mankind. This is the grave that people can be resurrected from. Gehenna, or the lake of fire is a death that you cannot be resurrected from, you will never live again. There is a reason why Jesus went to hell(sheol,hades) and resurrected, because that's the promise for mankind in the future. I hope this helps.
I would just add that the Father is a consumming fire that Jesus warned people to fear, rather than man who threatened death of the flesh. The lake of fire is the consumming fire of God's righteous wrath against all sin. Notice in Revelation chapter 20 after fire out of heaven destroyed rebellious Gog at the end of the mellinium. It says in Revelation20:12 And I saw the dead small and great, stand before God; and the BOOKS were opened, and another book was opened which is the book of life. And the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the BOOKS, according to their works. Vs13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it,(1), and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in THEM(2&3), and they were judged every man according to their works.(period). The point is this is a judgment according to each man's works, all who were not presently alive due to acceptance of Jesus blood covering. Those who have no risk of a second death. So there some not saved by knowledge of the saving grace of Jesus blood who are among those dead, who will be judged by their deeds done in their life here in the mortal realm. Such as the various cultures who are decieved by false religions. Most of these are who is referred to as being brought up out of the sea,(not seas). The sea are these fishes(men) among the nations over all time. God put in the heart of every person his requirement to love and nurture the innocent among them. This obviously brings up the question who among those of the first death that are delivered up from death and hell, what is their fate. That is determined from the book of their life. Among those whom ever the Father determined has paid the last mite, will have their namesin the book of life escaping the second death, or lake of fire. Vs14 And death and death and hell were cast in to the lake of fire. This is the second death. AFTER death (a place), and hell (a place), are now cast in to the lake of fire and eternally eleminated. Vs15 (A final clarification) And whosoever was not found writtin in the book of life was cast in to the lake of fire. This destroys all of that which is not a part of the new heavens and earth. Hell for those in it experience it in eternity, until it no longer exists.
@@Poohbear456_76 Yes, sheol and hell mean the same thing, it is the common resting place of mankind. That is why even a perfect person(Jesus) was resurrected out of hell. Basically, when a person dies, its "lights out" until resurrection. Hope this helps. Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Y'all should read Judgement of the Nephilim by Ryan Pitterson. He's extremely knowledgeable on the subject and everything he says, he lines up with scripture. I've been to one of his conferences and it was quite enlightening.
Does Mr. Pitterson write anything in his book about the Angels and Giants locked away under the Euphrates River? The Euphrates River is now dry and the giants and angels are now loose upon the Earth right now as we speak. Miami Florida just saw a trio of them in the local Mall. Do you think they were hungry or needed a new pair of shoes? One Lady found the longitude and latitude of the Miami Mall. She put the numbers in backwards and the map took her straight to Antarctica. Isn't that where everyone these days are saying there's an alien outpost under the ice??
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 :)
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . .
Written = There were Giants in the Earth at that time ! Again turned to stone ! Called fossilization Follow Rodger hes correct in his teachings and if you listen youll agree with his logic and past teachings !Jesus stated Earth is a Corpse ! Flood = God drowned the evil Giants AKA Earth is a Corpse ! There were Giants in the Earth at that time !
Gentlemen, it is so refreshing to hear you two from different points of view to be able to discuss and respect each other. I am a missionary serving in Ghana and am firmly planted in a pre-tribulation rapture dispensational viewpoint yet I am attending a Reformed Baptist church because it is in line with my view of the grace doctrines as espoused by John Calvin and there were no other churches at the time I came here that were sound in in critical other areas. I was wondering if either of you have pondered a question I wrestled with. It has to do with the fact that God says that Noah was perfect in his generations. This being said in the context of the sons of God coming in to the daughters and taking wives of whomever they chose of the daughters of men. I take that as a statement of the purity of Noah’s human genetic material. It seems to imply that perhaps only his bloodline had not been infiltrated by the fallen angels. My thoughts went to the fact that Noah’s so sons married just prior to the flood so could it be possible that their wives were hybrid, human/angel beings and their offspring though having Noah’s sons bloodline could have other genetic characteristics of the Nephilum from their mothers. I oft😊en wondered if that is how the Egyptians and others were technologically advanced.
Would love to hear your thoughts on Crist's statement, "As it was in the day's of Noah". Could it be modern Nephilim are here, but instead of large physical stature, they have been given positions of great power . . . the tech and banking giants.
No, they want to inhabit a body. They be inhabiting a particular person(s) who are holding positions of power, but they do need a person to work through.
Most would argue, when Christ makes that statement, he’s referring to the state of the world when he returns. People were giving in marriage, laughing, going about their daily lives, etc in the days of Noah. So to shall the state of the world be when he returns for the 2nd coming. Yes, even the nephilim. It’s possible they still exist, or even mere descendants of them do.
Good question, especially concerning Big Foot. And I easily suspect that the word wide pornography industry and human trafficking is obviously also connected in several ways, to various forms of evil spiritual entities.
I didn’t mean to imply that Big Foot is necessarily evil, if he is he’s keeping pretty much to himself. He could be just a rare form of one of God’s creatures, who knows better than to introduce himself to mankind.
Saw a interview of a fellow in Louisiana who interacts periodically with bigfoot in the wild telepathically, and he asked the bigfoot where they come from, and the creature "told" him they were of the Nephilim. Which causes one to wonder how they manage to carry their bodily form in and out of the second heaven, and why are they not bound there like most of those spirits of the Nephilim. I do know the book of Enoch describes tribal wars between various Nephilim groups. Maybe this group actually fought to protect preflood mankind from more evil groups who were killing and eating men. I actually think this is a valid position. Meaning they may tribally been placed in the second heaven until the flood waters receeded then allowed to resume bodily form again at will, and remain in this state until the time of the end of this age. In which case when the "therion" beasts are killing men again during the tribulation these creatures may just fight again on the side of man. If I had my choice if I were them and knew the finality of God's judgment I would certainly do all I could to show my worthiness to live during the new age. Worth the consideration because there is no doubt in my mind they are real
I would like to see a one-day prayer chain around the world, including all denominations, to pray for peace, for justice, for all evil to be cast away and for the Truth for our survival to be revealed to all.
My Friend its sounds nice. But extremely unbiblical....We Pray for the Lord's will to be done. Not for world peace. There will never be world peace till Christ come. Then justice will be done...The Bible says the world will get worse and worse till the great tribulation..nothing will change God's will
Your last sentence disturbs me. If you think God predicted tribulation, that's one thing, but to believe this is His will for evil on earth? No.@@uptownlife42
@@uptownlife42the word says we should pray that we may live in peace. We learn what to pray for by reading what the word says we should pray for. And you come and say ,”no”. Christianity is way too strange today. Way too many nit pickers. Let God correct people. But I doubt God get mad at us for praying for justice and peace and good government.
@@uptownlife42 “I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;” Extremely unbiblical. Now ask self are you being led by God to make comments or pride/flesh. I’m guilty too. But think about things before you write and speak.
Regarding vortexes and portals and physics, we humans have a lot to learn about these categories. Even Jesus moved through space and time when they were getting ready to throw him off the cliff and hill. Bible says “he was, and then was not”!
Enjoyed this video 😁 I have a few thoughts on the evil spirits being sent into the pigs. I remember reading in a Bible background commentary that there are records that this culture had pig co-ops that raised pigs for their pagan sacrifices. Given the number of pigs, it is highly likely this is what it was. So possibly the evil spirits would have desired to enter the pigs because than they could feast on the sacrifices as they were offered? What a show of power if Christ wiped out their entire years worth of sacrifices!!! No wonder the people would have been filled with fear. IF they are indeed the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim from the flood how appropriate and again what a show of power, if JESUS than sent the pigs into the sea. Both in Luke and Mark it just says they ran violently down into the water. We assume the demons made them do it but it does not actually say that. It could have been Jesus. And if they despised water how ironic for them to now have their "pig host bodies" to also be destroyed by water. By destroying the years worth of pig sacrifices (a favorite pagan sacrifice) Jesus would be displaying His power over these spirits and their "gods" to the people. Then by destroying the pig body hosts after the demons inhabited them it would declare His power as the Son of God in flesh over them to the spiritual realm.
Yes. It's true...the demons are the fallen angels...and they hate humans ... Only CRIST has the power to free us as society from those demonic powers. Revelation chapter 20. Crist will take action to imprisoned the demons for 1.000 years.
The problem here is that people are lost in the epic of modernizations. The giant that killed the American soldiers is lost in the media. DNA: dumb a s.s.e.s will probably try to replicate him. World out of control.
Everyone needs to check out CHUCK MISSLERS teachings on the Nephilim and many other topics. One of the most insightful and informative preachers of these last days ( years ) 😇😇😇
Wonderful ! Wonderful ! The more we dig into the Word Of GOD, The more TRUTH and indisputable answers come out and are revealed ...Very Scary, especially for the souls that are risking eternity by looking the other way in this life and being indifferent to the One True GOD ...I shutter to think what is in store for the unbelievers that have passed away...Thank You, Gentlemen for making this Incredible Video ... GOD and Jesus Bless America and the whole World ...
I think its a stretch to assume that only the ones who fell were the only ones who've fallen for all time. God doesn't take away free will for any of his creation so it is speculation to say no angel ever sinned after just like it would be speculation to say they keep doing it. The fact is we don't know. It is plausible that angels choose daily whom they serve just like we do. It's also plausible that seeing what happened to the ones who were chained in gloomy darkness sealed determination in others (those who follow Yahweh) that they will follow him forever. We just don't know.
If you read Genesis chapter 10 verses 15-18 closely it says this about the lineage of Canaan: Verse 15: Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; 16 the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; 17 the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; 18 the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed. The Amorites were a race of giant beings. It is clear that they were a direct descendant of Canaan as noted in verse 16. Amos 2:9 describes these giants being as tall as cedar trees which could've been anywhere from 30 feet in height or taller. I don't have all the answers and I never will, but this helped me understand how there were a race of post-flood giant beings that dwelt in the land of Canaan.
I agree! Why would God say that He wiped them out and then have others say no He didn’t wiped them all out. Then that makes God a liar and God is no liar! My believe that the giants indeed came from the line of ham! God cursed Ham for what he did.
One point keeps recurring to me. What about the spirits that thrived under the surface of the waters?? Leviathan comes to mind. Were they destroyed by way of the great deluge?? Were they amphibious?? It's probably an unimportant point of minutiae, or maybe not. I know that this is hardly ever addressed.
It is so incredible to hear you, Joel, confirming so many of the same exact musings I've had regarding the spiritual root of racial differences and the overall effects of principalities despite being so much younger in the faith and nowhere near as studied.
The Bible is clear in the book of Genesis where it says that everything that had the breath of Life in its nostrils was dead the only thing that was left alive was Noah and his family and the animals
The Bible is clear it said nothing that had the breath of Life in its nostrils was alive everything was dead except Noah his wife their three sons their wives and the animals I think the problem with modern-day Christianity is that it's promoted individuals above God and his word you see that's the problem with Christian leaders they're using their position for personal gain to make a name for themselves and this is why the church world is dying because it really doesn't have anything to offer as far as these people go they have fancy words they say things are going to happen and they don't happen because these are false teachers acting like their profits and messengers of stupidity and those that follow them are hooked like a drug and they have to hear what these people have to say and you know what time has come for the word of God to stand on its own and for people to understand it instead of putting themselves and the hands of unscrupulous people that at best don't have their own lives together so that they could judge to congregation and whip them with the word it doesn't work that way God is gentle loving and kind and you know what the church has lost its way but these words I leave you with Jesus said heaven and Earth shall pass away but my word shall never pass away so that's the secret it is the word of God not the interpretation of men not church denominations which is a dead end but an actual relationship in an understanding of God's word who he is who is real are the real church and a gentile church that doesn't care and lost its way find your way go to the word of God and God through his holy spirit will guide you and you'll see that you'll get to know the real God not this phony one that people are preaching in churches trying to put hooks into people asking money true Christianity doesn't ask for money because God has supplied the money so there's no need to ask the people for it that's real Christianity I doubt you'll find any church that will do that it's a shame because people need to get it together and start acting like Christ instead of thieves robbers
So in-depth, thank you for so much insight. I was given 4 books on the lost books of the Bible and been looking at older Bibles showing some of the old books that were removed. Because of many things that happened in my life spiritually and have seen things that made me question what it all meant, I read the book of Enoch and watched a video about Enoch and it really brought things together. There are a lot of other things I read about and this video made things even clearer. I needed confirmation on what I was shown spiritually. Again, thank you for the video.
Thanks for sharing. As a new Christian with baby deer legs, I’m looking too read the word. I had no idea that books were missing. I could have swore I read in the Bible somewhere that nothing should be added or taken away? Hence, why I’m reading it again.
Hello, thanks for the reply. Yes, I wondered the same but a pastor told me that they were removed by scholars that determined they didn't emanate from God which again, I thought all scripture was God-breathed. It would be a good study. The remaining 66 books of the Bible are called Canonical (not sure how that name was derived as I am not a scholar and need to do research as well). The ones that were removed, they thought were not in line with the beliefs of the 66 remaining ones. The ones that were removed are called the Apocryphal. Godspeed in your journey,@@charlineyawn1411
@@charlineyawn1411Don’t read Book of Enoch. It was removed because most of what was written in Enoch is not biblical. I advise new Christians to avoid it because that will hurt your walk as a new Christian. I’m 4 years in and I will not entertain reading the book of Enoch. I suggest you to talk to a reputable theologian or Pastor who is authentic and knowledgeable first before going in the rabbit hole like the commentor above. Christians need to stay away from book of Enoch. I’m praying 🙏🏻
@@charlineyawn1411APOSTLE ROBIN BULLOCK says GOD told him that the actual books of the Bible’s presented as norm today are complete and the list books were not included for HIS reasons we need not bother therein. If GOD wanted them in with the 66 books they certainly would be there. 💖✨💖
@@accesstotheredcarpet APOSTLE ROBIN BULLOCK says GOD told him that the actual books of the Bible’s presented as norm today are complete and the list books were not included for HIS reasons we need not bother therein. If GOD wanted them in with the 66 books they certainly would be there. 💖✨💖
This was a great discussion! you made me think that another possible theory could be that the Watchers that came down, were chained up, until the day of judgement. Their offspring, the Nephilim, were half breeds. half spirit (watcher) and half flesh (human). Their flesh bodies could die and were killed off in the flood; however, their spirit half would have had eternal life, so would not be able to die until the great day of judgement. Therefore, the spirit bodies would have survived the flood and would have looked for flesh bodies to indwell, - something that we call demon possessed.
1:00:10 There is no rational reason not to believe in post-millennialism. Death is destroyed at the resurrection. Jesus is reigning now until then. First Corinthians 15:25 says he must reign till he has put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. Everything up until then happens in history. Christ's victory happens in history.
@@paulrobb7513there are dozens of rational reasons to reject post millennialism. This conversation triggers Romans 14 for me because I start to question why Jesus picked them as his servants. To say our current world is led by Jesus is insulting to him. Jesus flatly states he is preparing a home and provides parables where he is not to return for his bride until the father decides. This is the church age and the time of gentiles. It is not the millennial kingdom. Additionally, the Bible clearly states Jesus reigns from Jerusalem during the millennia, Israel still rejects him and Muslims are controlling the region.
@@jtfike Far be it from me to say that you do not know your Bible. Perhaps you have forgotten Nebuchadnezzar's experience in Daniel chapter 4. In Nebuchadnezzar's dream he was told that the most high rules in the kingdom of men and gives it to whoever he will and sets up over it the basest of men. Check out 1 Corinthians 15:23-28. Christ reigns now and he's putting down all rule and all authority and power. Jesus must reign until he's put all of his enemies under his feet. Not until then will death be destroyed. The destruction of death means resurrection.
Genesis 7:22 (KJV): “All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.” In summary, fallen angels are spiritual beings and do not have the “breath of life” in the way humans and animals do. The “breath of life” applies to creatures living in the physical world, while angels (including fallen ones) are part of the spiritual realm. So I believe after the flood the fallen angels created new off springs, just having more control of them. There’s speculation these giants are just hiding now awaiting revelation.
Good point on min 22, the Israelites were Historically Pagans... The wives of Jacob with their Idols (one can assume that their children learn from these mothers)... Jacob told YHWH: "If You Bless me, and Prosper me, and Keep me Safe... THEN, You will be my God"... The whole OT is the story of God Convincing the Israelites (through His Prophets) to Worship Only Him so that the Nations see His Power and also Serve Him... By the way, He Never Completely Succeeded... There went the Plan to Reconcile Humanity with its Creator...
[1Co 15:40 KJV] There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another.
@user-fc2hb3de2w but angels can't create life so if angels had sex with women, then that means God gave the angels children which makes no sense. God never told angels to be fruitful and multiply. Angels appear to be genderless. I think the royal view makes more sense.
Great subject matter, even though I don't agree with some of the points discussed. Nevertheless, I will continue to come back and watch. Great interview 👍.
I saw a movie once, I think it was "The Man Who Would Be King", (Sean Connery and Michael Caine) whereby they come across pagans worshiping a strange god, they asked them why don't you forget these gods and worship the real God? they answered, "yes, we know about the read God, we know that He will forgive us but these other gods are not so forgiving, so we better worship them too" (something to that effect).
QUESTION Was the Younger-Dryas event the Noah Flood? It has been carbon-dated some 12,000 years ago. Were the enormous Egyptian megalithic sites such as those at Karnak, Giza and Lexor as well as the many huge cut blocks weighing well over 1000 tons antediluvian? Were the enormous associated statues in reality the antediluvian Nephilim?
No to all 3. Antediluvian fossils carbon Fate😢 to 40,000 years, roughly. Nothing on the surface of the earth is from before The flood except exposed kratons in only a few places. The Great Unconformity is the deepest extent of the erosion from the flood
No, the Younger-Dryas event was not the flood of Noah (which happened only about 5000 years ago). The Bible doesn't say that Noah's flood was global, but it does say that there was an earlier flood that was truly global where not a single living thing survived (Not a ark full of life). Do a study on the Greek word "Katabole" as it it used in the New Testament (Strong's #2602). It it quite possible that the Younger-Dryas event could be that event.
@@cosmictreason2242 I didn't say it was. I said there might be a possible connection. Of course, if it were true, it wouldn't matter that scientists do not make such a claim. Scientists says the Bible is false, so clearly the scientists are wrong about many things.
Hi guys. Great program. Are you familiar with a TH-cam channel called the God Culture? I came across it some years ago. They used the book of Jubilee’s and some other sources as well as much research. I have found they answer a lot of questions or at least make you think about things. Thanks for sharing all of you hard work.
There are 12 Nations, that's why there are 12 constellation 12 foundations a tree that bears 12 types of fruit and 12 tribes of Israel 12 months in a year, 12 gates. So a tribe shall take a nation through a gate unto the tree and they will present a sacrifice 12 times a year.. 😊 So beautiful the manifold wisdom of God.
@@fredray40UFO Alien abduction is another theory speculation that fallen watchers pretending to be aliens, trying to impregnate human females again to improve the hybridisation process. Check out Pastor Chuck MISSLER. He has videos on you tube about the Nephilim.
You are correct - all we’re destroyed in the flood. A recurrence of the original interbreeding happened again after the flood (and some say it’s happening once again in our time)
QUESTION: How do you think the watchers & nephilim shaped the ante-diluvian world in terms of teaching humans skills and does the modern occult or technology finds its roots in these practices?
In order for that to be true, someone on the Ark would most likely have to have brought those practices through the flood... And most likely that person would also have to have been a witch or a medium...
I read a book called Clock Shavings I think. The author explained how she communicated to Cain through a Quiga Board. Had full conversations back and forth with him. So thats how it can easily be transferred from demons directly even if the witches and warlocks die off ever the centuries. Cain is following his descendants closely btw.
There was an episode of Sasquatch Chronicles with a guy who had a Bigfoot experience during the day when he was out hiking. He got lost and fell away from the trail and couldn’t find his way. He said that he saw this huge black hairy creature ( Bigfoot ) and he said the creature pointed like we do and said, “ we watch “. He took off and followed the direction that the Bigfoot pointed and soon found the trail. I thought that was very interesting that it said, “ we watch “.
I believe in Daniel, the watcher on the wall refers to men delegated to sit on the wall to alert the town when danger is approaching. We are to be “watchers on the wall” alerting the world around us of the danger that is coming and hopefully turn them towards God.
OR, it COULD BE that once inhabited by the foreign entities, the swine, highly intelligent and sinless creatures in their own right, literally ran amok, not understanding what was happening in a manner uncontrollable by said demons, sending themselves into the sea (the Abyss, which is 'geographically' connected to Tartaros). Remember, biblically there are no other known instances of demons possessing hogs, so we don't know HOW the animals might react. How poetic would it be that, as was presented by Dr. Chaffey, the demons thought they were so diabolically cunning as to outwit Jesus, doing the deed in order to disrupt the Ministry, or perhaps bring about Jesus' death-by-swineherd, only to have Jesus already know what the pigs would do, and allowed it, because the disposition the demons specifically requested of the Messiah NOT perform (send them to the third part of Sh'ol) He didn't (so, He kept His Word to them), acquiesced to their wish, which landed them quite asea, twice-over! 😄
Listened to the first episode, and about 1/2 of this so far. Several questions: 1. It doesn’t follow that fallen beings could simply procreate with human women. There’s a lot of assumptions there, and it seems to give more power to these beings than in implied in Scripture. 2. Why would the offspring of this unholy match be a giant? I see no logical or Scriptural reason why this would be the case - it’s simply assumed.
Reread Genesis 3:15 God explains a seed war... His seed (the fallen) and thy seed. Plus, scripture stated that God's angels can take human physical form, which can surely mean the fallen could do the same.
They were giants, that's not even up for debate, however the term "giants" comes from the mistranslation of the Latin word "gigantes", which looks and sounds like it "should" be "giants", but actually means "Earth born".
I believe the Bible describes some angels being real tall they say great height. I think it's in the book of revelation. Also scriptures say angels can take human form. This doesn't imply they can't procreate or if they could it's a possibility. Jesus also mentioned that angels don't marry. I think this means they were not created for that purpose. Especially when you're in the service of God in the spiritual realm. Another thing that it also mentions is that the angels that are imprisoned I think it's mentioned in the book of Job. These are the same ones from the time of Methuselah.noeh grandfather in Noah's time. It also says these angels abandon their estate their home the spiritual realm to be here in the human realm. So it's a possibility to do so. If so they might have been really tall, or really strong, at least stronger than normal humans. In the early days of the church they used to believe this. Then they changed the sons of God to the sons of Israel. Israel was not a nation yet during this time. Or the sons of Seth they were not allowed to mix with Cain's side.
Why not the 4th explanation. The Word Nephilim could also mean tyrannts. More of an adjective. This is the best explanation and understanding. Since angels can not reproduce.
Except when 'sons of God' is used elsewhere (as in Job) it is clearly meaning angels. Jesus didn't say angels 'couldn't reproduce' He said the 'didn't reproduce'. There is no need for them to reproduce 'in heaven' as they are immortal. But they are said to 'leave their first estate' and take on fleshin Greek 'oketerion'. Oketerion is also used of humans who put on immortal bodies at the resurrection. Remember the angels who came to Abraham ate food, they obviously didn't need to eat, but they did.
@@DebraCarey-h5t IT DOESNT SAY 'sons of God' in the HEBREW! Please learn to study and refer to the original language. If it says 'bni elohim' that is 'sons of God', but what you are referring to says 'bni HA'elohim' which means 'sons of THE gods' referring to rulers, judges, MEN in power.
@@DebraCarey-h5t 1Cor 15:40 KJV There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another.
I don`t know if this will help, I remember Dr. Heiser also referring to the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim as "bastard spirits," which refers to them being "illegitimate spirits," and that takes us back to the Nephilim. Also to note: "God is the Father of spirits," Hebrews 12:9, Numbers 16:22, and Numbers 27:16, but NOT THEM SPIRITS! (for they came about ILLEGITIMATELY!)
this discussion around the 27-28 min mark where different demons/gods battle each other or take over each other's territory reminds me of the recent testimony of a warlock turned christian wherein they will conquer and battle (in the spirit realm) other witches and warlocks and fight for their territory. They kill and hurt each other to expand their power and control. There is certainly no honor amongst them which is not entirely unexpected under the rule of the devil.
Thank you , excellent biblical presentation.🙏🏽🕊✝ This answered some of my questions if they are among us today. I read the lost texts in the cipher and kjvvae and the book of Enoch. God Bless.
The Nephilim are not with us today however, the watchers are and the watchers are those people who are destroying us, and they are the people in our government
Please, I'm not trying to be weird or funny...my family and I have had years of being harassed by large, apelike beings called by Native American tribes "Sasquatch". I have been a Christian from age 9 when I asked Jesus to save me. I am now in a safer location. These things are evil. Hairy...Their eyes glow red. I have been protected by God while I lived isolated where these stinking, vile, murderous things terrorized the live stock and people. I am serious...could they be corrupted flesh ?. They walk upright and speak a very gutteral language. They killed all our animals. A study was done and they have human DNA mother origin and the father is unknown DNA.Please reply.
Just like we don't live to be 900 years plus the atmosphere of the Earth changed after the flood and heavier gravity came about keeping growth down this we only have 9 to 12 foot giants after the flood versus 20 to 30 foot or bigger before the flood
It’s from interbreeding with humans millennia ago… Which dilute the gene pool each successive time it happens. For example, Goliath was a remnant of a giant. He was several thousand years after the flood.
@@JettBlastScott carpenter ...wrote books about dogmen and bigfoot . He had run ins with these beings ...he Believed ...that big foot had something to do with the nephilim..instead of giantopithicus ....he was a big foot researcher.wrote a bunch of books and had done numerous. TH-cam videos on them ...he said that bigfoot were not to be trusted ...also there are different types of bigfoot ...there was DNA done on bigfoot ...what they came up with was human female and male extinct animal ...so something was mixing up human DNA and animals thousands of years ago .....
I live in northern Utah and there's a cryptid here who has been seen many times which they've named Cain. Everyone knows him by name. Nobody has attempted to communicate with him. His hair is silver. I've never seen him but there's a whole bunch of people who have. He's in the mountains in the north Ogden divide area.
Why doesn't anyone see how they came back from the sea? Dagon was a fish 🐟 god, and Oannes is mentioned throughout Babylonia history. I've been seeing this for nearly 15 years now. They returned from the sea 🌊.
@@cosmictreason2242 not necessarily, if you can breathe both on land and sea. Then it makes perfect sense to highlight the ones that only breathe air. Nothing broken the Word is perfect.
The Partial Preterist is not addressing the imminent time texts that point to Satan and the Watchers judgment being “shortly” and would “not be delayed” (Rms. 16:20; 2 Pet. 2/1 Pet. 4:5-7, 17). This was fulfilled in AD 70.
It’s my belief that it’s the nephilim that started transhumanism, and they are still at it today via the WEF. There are many military whistleblowers who stated they came across a red bearded giant in Kandahar Afghanistan, and even more in deep underground military bunkers. I believe they are still here… just as the Bible states they were in the land in their days, and also after. Nowhere does the Bible state they were ever gone forever. The fallen angels could have left the earth… and that probably the most likely explanation of “aliens”. Alien literally means not of the earth. Mankind is Gods only creation made out of the dust of the earth, per scripture. Also explains all the latest “alien news” that’s suddenly being spoken about over the past few months.., after decades of denying it, and now admitting they are real. I think they will use this to explain away the rapture, because the devil knows his time is almost up. Just my two cents.
Its cool listen to people guessing and coming up with there own theories.and if thats the case why are there no giants today? And even in the bibke the giants were only 10ft tall. Not as tall as people have depicted over time
The nephilim is a interesting topic, but I think Gen. 6:1-8 is being miss interpreted wrongly. Two main problems: 1- God created all angels. 2- So, can angels have sex? Many more questions lay around these two problems. Thanks, Ron.
The text clearly says that the nephilim existed before and after the sons of god and the daughters of men got tineyhrt, so they are not the offspring of
@@cosmictreason2242 I know you would like to believe that. I hold a Masters in Theology and I understand what heresy is. Many things considered heresy in Seminary is not. Plus, I’m speaking of my personal experience so get outta here. You cannot testify to my life and what’s happened to ME! How often do you pray and fast? Dwell in prayer and fasting and the realms of both kingdoms will open more to you; and to attract noteworthy attention from the kingdom of God, and of darkness. Then you will share your own experiences rather than mere analysis and paralysis. You will understand that the spirit realm is far advanced, active and involved in your life than you are in your very own life. I am a believer who see very well what I speak of. I don’t speak heresy. Lukewarm Christians are blind and asleep to everything and to them everything is heresy.
Well in Jewish literature is simply that the a wife of Noah son’s had the bloodline. This was apart of their tradition that Noah and his wife were “pure blood”. But that doesn’t screen out his daughter in-laws.
Giant is a bad translation of nephilim which means 'tyrants, bullies, fellers'. Giants in social status not physical stature. People were larger before the flood and remnants spring up in the genetics after.
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 :)
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . .
God has already revealed it. Genesis 3 and Genesis 6 relates in sin. SAW, GOOD ( BEAUTIFUL) AND TOOK. Cains lineage starts with man. Seth's lineage starts with God. Seventh son Lamech. Cains line was a proud, boastful Murderer, who had multiple wives. Seth line Lamech humble and sorrowful of sin. God states who is responsible. Man, Men and MANKIND is mentioned how many times? Angels, Fallen angels, or Demons isn't mentioned once.
@@jthomas7904yes, corruption is mentioned first in Genesis 3:14. You must understand the paranormal/supernatural aspects of Scripture or you will not have an accurate view of God.
It would seem to me that the answer is in the book itself. That Noah alone was unblemished in all his generations. It came back into the World through his wife, their sons and wives. Through their descendants. All flesh was corrupted but Noah who was unblemished in his generations.
Just one son... Ham. When the sons of God took for themselves wives from the daughters of men. Naphal ~ root word for Nephilim means tyrants and bullies. Giants ~ old English means Tyrants and bullies.
I've heard somewhere that "refaim" actually means something like "self-healing ones", which is why David had to cut of Goliath's head. That might be where you got the word "healer" from. Either way, awesome video, thanks alot!
Around the 34:30 mark, the discussion of the demons entering into the swine. Chaffey's interpretation is reasonable, but I think it is important to look at this passage in Luke 8:31: "And they besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep." Is it not possible that the demons believed that they might escape judgment by going into the pigs, but when the pigs entered the water, the spirits were now trapped in the water? In other words, the demons did not "trick" Jesus into harming his ministry, but rather, Jesus granted their request albeit prompting them to receive an unwanted suspension in an element hostile to them.
When Nimrod moved to Shinar what do you think he found buried in the sand after the flood of Noah? could he have dug up the ancient science of DNA manipulation? in a flood everything settles to the lowest spot, it say's he began to become!!!
If you read Genesis chapter 10 verses 15-18 closely it says this about the lineage of Canaan: Verse 15: Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; 16 the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; 17 the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; 18 the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed. The Amorites were a race of giant beings. It is clear that they were a direct descendant of Canaan as noted in verse 16. Amos 2:9 describes these giants being as tall as cedar trees which could've been anywhere from 30 feet in height or taller. I don't have all the answers and I never will, but this helped me understand how there were a race of post-flood giant beings that dwelt in the land of Canaan.
Im going to make a suggestion, please dont be offended. It seems like you do not let the guest speak enough, you start to ask a question and take a considerable amount of time before you let the guest respond. Simple to the point questions, so that the guest can elaborate and respond appropriately.
Some of the fallen angels gave up their first estate. I heard a theory where when the Hebrew is scrutinized, estate refers to their heavenly bodies, their bodies becoming flesh. This would seem to make sense when we think about the ability to of sex. And might be extended to being killed in the flood.
Wow, jackpot. I've heard so many theories over the years. Some- I can rule out as unlikely. If the Gen 6 word is not WHEN but WHENEVER, That is a lock to me. It will take something extraordinary to persuade me otherwise. Good job guys.
How about the phrase 'sons of God' in Gen 6:4 actually says sons of the gods (rulers, judges, those in power) - see Jasher 4- and Nephilim means 'tyrants, bullies, fellers' (like RockeFELLER) not 'giants' as in physical stature and the word 'became' is ADDED and not in the original ...
@@MyChihuahua Nephilim were giant beings. They have found bones of them all over the world. By giant I don’t mean 7 or 8 feet. I mean anywhere from 12 to 25 or 30 feet.
Thank you for your ministry, really appreciate these podcasts. I too hold to the angelic view.. My question is however, how can angels have seed that can fertilize? As angels aren’t sexual beings, they may be able to shapeshift, however how can they have seed? Thanks
Because what you call angels is actually extra terrestrial. That look just like us. It's how we got here. You need to look into the sumerian texts thar tell the same stories as the Bible its just thousands of years older.
The Bible says they are not given in marriage in heaven (i.e they don't have sex) not that they "can't" have sex. In heaven they have no need for procreation. They do have the ability to procreate and do have "seed" or they would not have been able to "go into" [have sex] with the human women.
@darrenmcdowell262 your statement is based on a demonic lie. Stop promoting what is in opposition to the clear teaching of Scripture. Only two types of bodies: elohim (spirit) and mankind.
@@darrenmcdowell262 the Sumerian stories are not quite the same but are similar. The biblical accounts are polemics against the Sumerian texts. Basically refuting that the Sumerian stories in which they venerated these great beings of renowned (heros of old) the Annunaki and such were in reality created beings. Who then created, Half devine, half human beings the Nephilim. And that they were not the creators of mankind, were not heroes but were the children of the watchers (Annunaki). Because they were part devine and giants they would naturally have been seen as Gods. In fact the Watchers who were supposed to watch over mankind became corrupt and caused mankind to serve and worship them instead of their creator. Not only that they corrupted the earth, consumed its resources and did experiments on both man and beast therfore corrupting all flesh. The flood was a mercy on mankind and judgement on the corrupt man/beasts/Nephilim and watchers who had proliferated evil on the earth. So, the bible, while younger than the Sumerian texts were refutations of those texts and telling the true origins of mankind. This is why they are very similar and all over the world including Asia. It's pretty fascinating really when you think about it.
It is so weird to me how much precedent people put on "canonical" books rather than accept that Jude and Peter both made clear that the Book of Watchers from Enoch 1 was prophecy related to Genesis 6.
This is probably the most educated and well put breakdown of this subject I've ever watched. It drives me mental when cheistians say to take the bible literally, but when it comes to this subject want to say it wasnt literal 🤦♀️ nothing of the context in the scriptures about the nephilim signify it was metaphorical and not literal. So happy i accidentally came across this video and will definitely be saving to share with people in the future!
Thanks!
Me too, sweetheart. I read about them in my early 20’s and recently recalled it after receiving the Holy Spirit for the first time in early December of 2023. Love to Jesus and his grace. God Bless you.
@@RightResponseMinistries The teaching on Watchers as angels is false in Daniel 4, you Neocon Christians need help on this subject.
Watchers Daniel 4 Explained!! They are NOT angels!! The degree comes from the THRONE!!
Watchers Daniel 4, The chapter is actually FULL of the Trinity>>>Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
The Watchers are the Father and the Son of the Trinity, not angels. The book of Enoch and 2nd temple liturature are misleading and give a Jewish mindset of Daniel 4. Christians should view this Christ minded and with the Trinity included.
Let's look into this chapter, first with the verses where Watcher/Watchers are used, which is used 3 times is the chapter, Let's look into this divided up in three sections (A, B, and C)
SECTION A: Watchers/Holy Ones used Three times each pointing to a Trinity in Daniel 4 and are paired together.
13 “I saw in the visions of my head as I lay in bed, and behold, a WATCHER, a holy one, came down from heaven.
17 "The sentence is by the decree of the WATCHERS, the decision by the word of the holy ones, to the end that the living may know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will and sets over it the lowliest of men.’
23 And because the king saw a WATCHER, a holy one, coming down from heaven and saying, ‘Chop down the tree and destroy it, but leave the stump of its roots in the earth, bound with a band of iron and bronze, in the tender grass of the field, and let him be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven periods of time pass over him,’
Actually the Watchers would be the Father and Son, they are the Holy ones, Not angels. Daniel tells us in Daniel 4 :24 "this is the interpretation, O king: It is a decree of the Most High, which has come upon my lord the king," The king and lord of Daniel was king Nebuchadnezzar.
The answer of the "decree of the Watchers" in Daniel 4:13, a person has to continue reading Daniel's interpretation and the answer of who the Watchers are is found in Daniel 4:24>>>"it is a decree of the Most High". So it is impossible for angels to be the Watchers, becasue angels are NEVER referred to as the 'Most High", the Title and Status belong to God/Elohim pointing to the Father and the Son. When looking at Daniel 4: 13, 17, and 23, Watchers/Watcher and Holy Ones/Holy One is always "PAIRED Together" meaning this is about the Father and the Son.
This Lord God Himself is the ONE who the decree comes from, right from the throne of God, The Kingom of Heaven. The throne is of the Father in Heaven and the Holy One (Watcher) that came down from Heaven would be the Son (Jesus)>>>>Daniel 4:13. Remember this is all in Nebuchadnezzar's head in a dream/vision that he saw while he was laying in his bed. God would speak and communicate with Nebuchadnezzar through visions and dreams. The Bible gives NO mention of angels having authority to to have decisions and make decrees, Only the Father and Son who share in that authority make the decree that is made in Heaven that come from the Throne of God. Angels may have witnessed this in Heaven, but have NO Authority.
This explains the plurality of the Watchers which would be the Father (Watcher/Holy One from the throne and the Son (Watcher/Holy One coming down from Heaven. Notice that Holy Ones are uses also 3 times and are linked to the Watchers>>>>Daniel 4:13 “I saw in the visions of my head as I lay in bed, and behold, a WATCHER, a Holy One, came down from heaven.
17 "The sentence is by the decree of the WATCHERS, the decision by the word of the Holy Ones, to the end that the living may know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will and sets over it the lowliest of men.’
23a And because the king saw a WATCHER, a Holy One, coming down from heaven and saying,
SECTION B: "spirit of the holy gods" is used Three Times pointing to a Trinity in Daneil 4
8 At last Daniel came in before me-he who was named Belteshazzar after the name of my god, and in whom is the spirit of the holy gods-and I told him the dream, saying,
9 “O Belteshazzar, chief of the magicians, because I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in you and that no mystery is too difficult for you, tell me the visions of my dream that I saw and their interpretation.
18 This dream I, King Nebuchadnezzar, saw. And you, O Belteshazzar, tell me the interpretation, because all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known to me the interpretation, but you are able, for the spirit of the holy gods is in you.”
Looking at these verse brings up another question about the Holy Spirit, these verse in Daniel 4, it mentions 3 times that the Spirit is in Daniel, so the Holy Spirit is indwelling Daniel.
1) " in whom is the spirit of the holy gods">>>>Verse 8
2) "I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in you" >>>>>Verse 9
3) " but you are able, for the spirit of the holy gods is in you.”>>>>>Verse 18
All three of these times Nebuchadnezzar is telling this to Daniel.
Notice how this is written "spirit of the holy gods is IN you." Does no say "upon" or "overshadowing you.", clearly says the "Spirit" is in Daniel.
As Christians we are told that the Holy Spirit never indwelt in the OT, but only in the NT.
SECTION C: Most High/King of Heaven
Most High 6 times is used and then followed and ends with King of Heaven used 1 time in Daniel 4, when a person totals this up is the number SEVEN, which is the complete number of God.
2 It has seemed good to me to show the signs and wonders that the >>>>Most High GodMost High>Most High,Most High>>Most High>Most High,>King of Heaven,
How tall were the nephlim
Check out Rob Skiba his explanation is less of a word salad and makes more sense
Thank you both for sharing your thoughts and time God Bless!
Pastor Joel, I love how you touch on so many of these Biblical topics that most churches avoid like the plague, and how you'll even say Augustine, Luther and/or Calvin were wrong if they disputed one of these topics without even bothering to offer a proper explanation or alternative, something most Calvinists would be too afraid to touch. Lastly my favorite internet preachers were Chuck Missler and Michael Heiser. I'm not sure about how you felt about Dr. Missler, but I get the feeling you had lots of respect for Dr. Heiser. Anyway, I have the same proper respect for you and I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos. I admire "courage" and I view you as a man of courage. Not only my favorite preachers NOW, but historically as well (John the Baptist, Elijah et al.) were all men of God, men of courage, and my favorite prophets and preachers in the Bible. I count you amongst that group. Courageous, as in: unafraid to speak your mind regardless of how the truth portrays you with the world.
Dr Heiser wasn't mentioned in the last interview so I'm glad his work was brought up briefly as he was the one who introduced me to these ideas several years ago.
Yes... SEVERAL YEARS ago... like "TWENTY several", lol! Great dude.
And Tom Horn
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Heiser was a blasphemer who believed his opinion about the word of God was more accurate than the word of God itself. Heiser was a tremendously arrogant man who never met the conditions to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit (Humility, Repentance, & Confession of Sin) so he spent a lot of time speaking against the Holy Spirit. He spent a lot of time drawing attention to himself and diverting attention away from God by usurping the authority of the Holy Spirit. I encourage you to look up Heisers "Top 10 Myths of Bible Study" and pay attention to number 7. There you will discover Heiser did not believe in the power of the Holy Spirit and considered anyone who has received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit to be a liar. He doesn't even understand the nature of the event itself. Heiser was FULL OF UNBELIEF that he replaced with non-biblical views DESIGNED TO DECEIVE. Be warned. If you want a teacher of the scriptures, I only recommend two people, Derek Prince and the Holy Spirit Himself.
Dr. Michael Heiser is the authority on this subject & the Book of Enoch.
"Behold how good and how pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity" Psa. 133:1 Thank you both for this informative discussion. Though having points of disagreement in your views you handled yourselves like true brothers and examples of godly discourse. So wonderful to see.
Would you wish to comment on the story of the Kandahar giant, that took out a number of our troops before being taken out out by our superior weapons?
Afghanistan Giant???
@@cutesybunny3360yes.
Our?
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Yes! Google it. There is a lot on utube about it also.
Wartime Stories channel tells one version from a secular POV
Please, please, please do a podcast on the differences and significances of hell, Sheol, hades, Lake of fire, etc. that would be fascinating and enlightening. Thank you
Hell, sheol (hebrew) , hades(Greek) mean the grave. This is referred to as the common resting place of mankind. This is the grave that people can be resurrected from. Gehenna, or the lake of fire is a death that you cannot be resurrected from, you will never live again. There is a reason why Jesus went to hell(sheol,hades) and resurrected, because that's the promise for mankind in the future. I hope this helps.
@@IamMe10-4very good explanation.
Sheol in hebrew means hell.
I would just add that the Father is a consumming fire that Jesus warned people to fear, rather than man who threatened death of the flesh. The lake of fire is the consumming fire of God's righteous wrath against all sin. Notice in Revelation chapter 20 after fire out of heaven destroyed rebellious Gog at the end of the mellinium. It says in Revelation20:12 And I saw the dead small and great, stand before God; and the BOOKS were opened, and another book was opened which is the book of life. And the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the BOOKS, according to their works. Vs13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it,(1), and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in THEM(2&3), and they were judged every man according to their works.(period). The point is this is a judgment according to each man's works, all who were not presently alive due to acceptance of Jesus blood covering. Those who have no risk of a second death. So there some not saved by knowledge of the saving grace of Jesus blood who are among those dead, who will be judged by their deeds done in their life here in the mortal realm. Such as the various cultures who are decieved by false religions. Most of these are who is referred to as being brought up out of the sea,(not seas). The sea are these fishes(men) among the nations over all time. God put in the heart of every person his requirement to love and nurture the innocent among them. This obviously brings up the question who among those of the first death that are delivered up from death and hell, what is their fate. That is determined from the book of their life. Among those whom ever the Father determined has paid the last mite, will have their namesin the book of life escaping the second death, or lake of fire. Vs14 And death and death and hell were cast in to the lake of fire. This is the second death. AFTER death (a place), and hell (a place), are now cast in to the lake of fire and eternally eleminated. Vs15 (A final clarification) And whosoever was not found writtin in the book of life was cast in to the lake of fire. This destroys all of that which is not a part of the new heavens and earth. Hell for those in it experience it in eternity, until it no longer exists.
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Yes, sheol and hell mean the same thing, it is the common resting place of mankind. That is why even a perfect person(Jesus) was resurrected out of hell. Basically, when a person dies, its "lights out" until resurrection. Hope this helps.
Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Y'all should read Judgement of the Nephilim by Ryan Pitterson. He's extremely knowledgeable on the subject and everything he says, he lines up with scripture. I've been to one of his conferences and it was quite enlightening.
The very word Nephilim define in the Bible means bully or tyrant evidently you love ignorant people and have itchy ears!
Great book.
Thank you, Carla.
Does Mr. Pitterson write anything in his book about the Angels and Giants locked away under the Euphrates River? The Euphrates River is now dry and the giants and angels are now loose upon the Earth right now as we speak. Miami Florida just saw a trio of them in the local Mall. Do you think they were hungry or needed a new pair of shoes? One Lady found the longitude and latitude of the Miami Mall. She put the numbers in backwards and the map took her straight to Antarctica. Isn't that where everyone these days are saying there's an alien outpost under the ice??
Great book!
Very interesting conversations. Makes me realize that there is a lot more going on in the spiritual realm that whay we realize.
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
-Acts 3:19
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Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
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They have no proof so don't believe the bullshit
Written = There were Giants in the Earth at that time ! Again turned to stone ! Called fossilization Follow Rodger hes correct in his teachings and if you listen youll agree with his logic and past teachings !Jesus stated Earth is a Corpse ! Flood = God drowned the evil Giants AKA Earth is a Corpse ! There were Giants in the Earth at that time !
It states an ANGEL may be eating with you and you wouldn’t know it
My Pastor was teaching on this subject 50 years ago….refreshing to hear this information start to come to light….GB
Gentlemen, it is so refreshing to hear you two from different points of view to be able to discuss and respect each other. I am a missionary serving in Ghana and am firmly planted in a pre-tribulation rapture dispensational viewpoint yet I am attending a Reformed Baptist church because it is in line with my view of the grace doctrines as espoused by John Calvin and there were no other churches at the time I came here that were sound in in critical other areas.
I was wondering if either of you have pondered a question I wrestled with. It has to do with the fact that God says that Noah was perfect in his generations. This being said in the context of the sons of God coming in to the daughters and taking wives of whomever they chose of the daughters of men. I take that as a statement of the purity of Noah’s human genetic material. It seems to imply that perhaps only his bloodline had not been infiltrated by the fallen angels. My thoughts went to the fact that Noah’s so sons married just prior to the flood so could it be possible that their wives were hybrid, human/angel beings and their offspring though having Noah’s sons bloodline could have other genetic characteristics of the Nephilum from their mothers.
I oft😊en wondered if that is how the Egyptians and others were technologically advanced.
I think they were advanced because of the fallen angels assigned to that region when God divided the world into 70 nations.
Would love to hear your thoughts on Crist's statement, "As it was in the day's of Noah". Could it be modern Nephilim are here, but instead of large physical stature, they have been given positions of great power . . . the tech and banking giants.
Read more about the reaction men have of the nephilim giants; they will walk the earth again and terrorize men and consume them.
No, they want to inhabit a body. They be inhabiting a particular person(s) who are holding positions of power, but they do need a person to work through.
No
mixing the genome
Most would argue, when Christ makes that statement, he’s referring to the state of the world when he returns. People were giving in marriage, laughing, going about their daily lives, etc in the days of Noah. So to shall the state of the world be when he returns for the 2nd coming. Yes, even the nephilim. It’s possible they still exist, or even mere descendants of them do.
Let’s talk about what people are seeing and experiencing now. Do you think Bigfoot or what we refer to as aliens are fallen Angels or Nephlilim?
Imo some of that stuff could be demonic. What does a demon look like? Whatever it needs to look like to most affect it's target
I agree, demonic activity is the source of the UFO’s etc.
Good question, especially concerning Big Foot. And I easily suspect that the word wide pornography industry and human trafficking is obviously also connected in several ways, to various forms of evil spiritual entities.
I didn’t mean to imply that Big Foot is necessarily evil, if he is he’s keeping pretty much to himself. He could be just a rare form of one of God’s creatures, who knows better than to introduce himself to mankind.
Saw a interview of a fellow in Louisiana who interacts periodically with bigfoot in the wild telepathically, and he asked the bigfoot where they come from, and the creature "told" him they were of the Nephilim. Which causes one to wonder how they manage to carry their bodily form in and out of the second heaven, and why are they not bound there like most of those spirits of the Nephilim. I do know the book of Enoch describes tribal wars between various Nephilim groups. Maybe this group actually fought to protect preflood mankind from more evil groups who were killing and eating men. I actually think this is a valid position. Meaning they may tribally been placed in the second heaven until the flood waters receeded then allowed to resume bodily form again at will, and remain in this state until the time of the end of this age. In which case when the "therion" beasts are killing men again during the tribulation these creatures may just fight again on the side of man. If I had my choice if I were them and knew the finality of God's judgment I would certainly do all I could to show my worthiness to live during the new age. Worth the consideration because there is no doubt in my mind they are real
I would like to see a one-day prayer chain around the world, including all denominations, to pray for peace, for justice,
for all evil to be cast away and for the Truth for
our survival to be revealed to all.
My Friend its sounds nice. But extremely unbiblical....We Pray for the Lord's will to be done. Not for world peace. There will never be world peace till Christ come. Then justice will be done...The Bible says the world will get worse and worse till the great tribulation..nothing will change God's will
Your last sentence disturbs me. If you think God predicted tribulation, that's one thing, but to believe this is His will for evil on earth? No.@@uptownlife42
@@uptownlife42the word says we should pray that we may live in peace. We learn what to pray for by reading what the word says we should pray for. And you come and say ,”no”.
Christianity is way too strange today. Way too many nit pickers. Let God correct people. But I doubt God get mad at us for praying for justice and peace and good government.
@@uptownlife42 “I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;”
Extremely unbiblical. Now ask self are you being led by God to make comments or pride/flesh.
I’m guilty too. But think about things before you write and speak.
@@uptownlife42 1 Thessalonians 5:3...when they say peace & security then end comes...
The ALMIGHTY DOES NOT FAIL.
This moment must have been amazing, just to hear young Jesus teaching the teachers.
Regarding vortexes and portals and physics, we humans have a lot to learn about these categories. Even Jesus moved through space and time when they were getting ready to throw him off the cliff and hill. Bible says “he was, and then was not”!
Amen
Sometimes things are too weird to explain or discuss.
Your interviewer is beautiful and compassionate also , God bless him 10 fold.
Enjoyed this video 😁
I have a few thoughts on the evil spirits being sent into the pigs. I remember reading in a Bible background commentary that there are records that this culture had pig co-ops that raised pigs for their pagan sacrifices. Given the number of pigs, it is highly likely this is what it was. So possibly the evil spirits would have desired to enter the pigs because than they could feast on the sacrifices as they were offered? What a show of power if Christ wiped out their entire years worth of sacrifices!!! No wonder the people would have been filled with fear. IF they are indeed the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim from the flood how appropriate and again what a show of power, if JESUS than sent the pigs into the sea. Both in Luke and Mark it just says they ran violently down into the water. We assume the demons made them do it but it does not actually say that. It could have been Jesus. And if they despised water how ironic for them to now have their "pig host bodies" to also be destroyed by water. By destroying the years worth of pig sacrifices (a favorite pagan sacrifice) Jesus would be displaying His power over these spirits and their "gods" to the people. Then by destroying the pig body hosts after the demons inhabited them it would declare His power as the Son of God in flesh over them to the spiritual realm.
Yes.
It's true...the demons are the fallen angels...and they hate humans ...
Only CRIST has the power to free us as society from those demonic powers.
Revelation chapter 20.
Crist will take action to imprisoned the demons for 1.000 years.
Interesting. Maybe the pigs, overwhelmed by the evil, did it by their own will.
Those spirts drove the man insane why not the pigs
Pigs are have some human DNA.
Thank you for sharing. I found your comment one of the best I've read in a while. So very interesting ❤
Thanks for Tim's humility even very knowledgeable
This discussion was fire. Great pondering.
As God chained the angels that sinned into eternal darkness, you would assume no others would dare to repeat it
One revelation is the devil is lost
The problem here is that people are lost in the epic of modernizations. The giant that killed the American soldiers is lost in the media. DNA: dumb a s.s.e.s will probably try to replicate him. World out of control.
I believe He chained the angels up AFTER the 2nd incursion.
Yes. But they did
This stuff makes Matthew 28:18 even so much more glorious. Especially when you have a classic postmillennial eschatology.
Everyone needs to check out CHUCK MISSLERS teachings on the Nephilim and many other topics.
One of the most insightful and informative preachers of these last days ( years )
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Agreed 100%
Wonderful ! Wonderful ! The more we dig into the Word Of GOD, The more TRUTH and indisputable answers come out and are revealed ...Very Scary, especially for the souls that are risking eternity by looking the other way in this life and being indifferent to the One True GOD ...I shutter to think what is in store for the unbelievers that have passed away...Thank You, Gentlemen for making this Incredible Video ...
GOD and Jesus Bless America and the whole World ...
I have to say. I'm 41:38 into this and you two fellas have done a great job. Pretty neat to hear you guys talk about this subject. Thanks!
I think its a stretch to assume that only the ones who fell were the only ones who've fallen for all time. God doesn't take away free will for any of his creation so it is speculation to say no angel ever sinned after just like it would be speculation to say they keep doing it. The fact is we don't know. It is plausible that angels choose daily whom they serve just like we do. It's also plausible that seeing what happened to the ones who were chained in gloomy darkness sealed determination in others (those who follow Yahweh) that they will follow him forever. We just don't know.
If you read Genesis chapter 10 verses 15-18 closely it says this about the lineage of Canaan:
Verse 15: Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; 16 the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; 17 the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; 18 the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed.
The Amorites were a race of giant beings. It is clear that they were a direct descendant of Canaan as noted in verse 16. Amos 2:9 describes these giants being as tall as cedar trees which could've been anywhere from 30 feet in height or taller. I don't have all the answers and I never will, but this helped me understand how there were a race of post-flood giant beings that dwelt in the land of Canaan.
I agree! Why would God say that He wiped them out and then have others say no He didn’t wiped them all out. Then that makes God a liar and God is no liar! My believe that the giants indeed came from the line of ham! God cursed Ham for what he did.
Praise Lord Jesus!
The best explains I’ve ever heard… thanks so much… you used so much scripture to compliment your ideas… NOW IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE!!!
I didn't know about Enoch until I prayed and God put him in my heart after I prayed to know what is real and true!
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Fun fact: Apocrypha(from the Greek Apokryptien) means “to hide away”
More accurately, hidden things, as in occult. Demon/human hybrids is a false doctrine of demons.
Yes.demon inspired.. NbThey can tell the truth when it suits them
One point keeps recurring to me. What about the spirits that thrived under the surface of the waters?? Leviathan comes to mind. Were they destroyed by way of the great deluge?? Were they amphibious?? It's probably an unimportant point of minutiae, or maybe not. I know that this is hardly ever addressed.
We have no idea what lurks in the deep.
I came to the comments to point this out myself and see that someone else beat me to that thought 😅
It is so incredible to hear you, Joel, confirming so many of the same exact musings I've had regarding the spiritual root of racial differences and the overall effects of principalities despite being so much younger in the faith and nowhere near as studied.
I would like to see the scripture on the screen as you quote, or at least each reference so I can more easily follow along. Good work men.
The Bible is clear in the book of Genesis where it says that everything that had the breath of Life in its nostrils was dead the only thing that was left alive was Noah and his family and the animals
The Bible is clear it said nothing that had the breath of Life in its nostrils was alive everything was dead except Noah his wife their three sons their wives and the animals I think the problem with modern-day Christianity is that it's promoted individuals above God and his word you see that's the problem with Christian leaders they're using their position for personal gain to make a name for themselves and this is why the church world is dying because it really doesn't have anything to offer as far as these people go they have fancy words they say things are going to happen and they don't happen because these are false teachers acting like their profits and messengers of stupidity and those that follow them are hooked like a drug and they have to hear what these people have to say and you know what time has come for the word of God to stand on its own and for people to understand it instead of putting themselves and the hands of unscrupulous people that at best don't have their own lives together so that they could judge to congregation and whip them with the word it doesn't work that way God is gentle loving and kind and you know what the church has lost its way but these words I leave you with Jesus said heaven and Earth shall pass away but my word shall never pass away so that's the secret it is the word of God not the interpretation of men not church denominations which is a dead end but an actual relationship in an understanding of God's word who he is who is real are the real church and a gentile church that doesn't care and lost its way find your way go to the word of God and God through his holy spirit will guide you and you'll see that you'll get to know the real God not this phony one that people are preaching in churches trying to put hooks into people asking money true Christianity doesn't ask for money because God has supplied the money so there's no need to ask the people for it that's real Christianity I doubt you'll find any church that will do that it's a shame because people need to get it together and start acting like Christ instead of thieves robbers
I love Dr. Chaffey and AIG
Me too!
So in-depth, thank you for so much insight. I was given 4 books on the lost books of the Bible and been looking at older Bibles showing some of the old books that were removed. Because of many things that happened in my life spiritually and have seen things that made me question what it all meant, I read the book of Enoch and watched a video about Enoch and it really brought things together. There are a lot of other things I read about and this video made things even clearer. I needed confirmation on what I was shown spiritually. Again, thank you for the video.
Thanks for sharing. As a new Christian with baby deer legs, I’m looking too read the word. I had no idea that books were missing. I could have swore I read in the Bible somewhere that nothing should be added or taken away? Hence, why I’m reading it again.
Hello, thanks for the reply. Yes, I wondered the same but a pastor told me that they were removed by scholars that determined they didn't emanate from God which again, I thought all scripture was God-breathed. It would be a good study. The remaining 66 books of the Bible are called Canonical (not sure how that name was derived as I am not a scholar and need to do research as well). The ones that were removed, they thought were not in line with the beliefs of the 66 remaining ones. The ones that were removed are called the Apocryphal. Godspeed in your journey,@@charlineyawn1411
@@charlineyawn1411Don’t read Book of Enoch. It was removed because most of what was written in Enoch is not biblical. I advise new Christians to avoid it because that will hurt your walk as a new Christian. I’m 4 years in and I will not entertain reading the book of Enoch. I suggest you to talk to a reputable theologian or Pastor who is authentic and knowledgeable first before going in the rabbit hole like the commentor above. Christians need to stay away from book of Enoch. I’m praying 🙏🏻
@@charlineyawn1411APOSTLE ROBIN BULLOCK says GOD told him that the actual books of the Bible’s presented as norm today are complete and the list books were not included for HIS reasons we need not bother therein. If GOD wanted them in with the 66 books they certainly would be there. 💖✨💖
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APOSTLE ROBIN BULLOCK says GOD told him that the actual books of the Bible’s presented as norm today are complete and the list books were not included for HIS reasons we need not bother therein. If GOD wanted them in with the 66 books they certainly would be there. 💖✨💖
This was a great discussion! you made me think that another possible theory could be that the Watchers that came down, were chained up, until the day of judgement. Their offspring, the Nephilim, were half breeds. half spirit (watcher) and half flesh (human). Their flesh bodies could die and were killed off in the flood; however, their spirit half would have had eternal life, so would not be able to die until the great day of judgement. Therefore, the spirit bodies would have survived the flood and would have looked for flesh bodies to indwell, - something that we call demon possessed.
Awesome discussions. Spot on! God bless you both for speaking truth and pushing to lift the vale of all who have eyes, but do not see!
Amazing to consider both Peter and Jude quoting from B. of Enoch.
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False
It does not say the book of Enoch is quoted anywhere in the bible.
While I hold to the pre millennial view, I appreciate both of you being respectful of your differences regarding the Millennium.
There is no rational reason to believe in anything but the premillennial view, it's scriptural.
1:00:10 There is no rational reason not to believe in post-millennialism. Death is destroyed at the resurrection. Jesus is reigning now until then. First Corinthians 15:25 says he must reign till he has put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. Everything up until then happens in history. Christ's victory happens in history.
@@paulrobb7513there are dozens of rational reasons to reject post millennialism. This conversation triggers Romans 14 for me because I start to question why Jesus picked them as his servants. To say our current world is led by Jesus is insulting to him. Jesus flatly states he is preparing a home and provides parables where he is not to return for his bride until the father decides. This is the church age and the time of gentiles. It is not the millennial kingdom.
Additionally, the Bible clearly states Jesus reigns from Jerusalem during the millennia, Israel still rejects him and Muslims are controlling the region.
@@jtfike Far be it from me to say that you do not know your Bible. Perhaps you have forgotten Nebuchadnezzar's experience in Daniel chapter 4. In Nebuchadnezzar's dream he was told that the most high rules in the kingdom of men and gives it to whoever he will and sets up over it the basest of men. Check out 1 Corinthians 15:23-28. Christ reigns now and he's putting down all rule and all authority and power. Jesus must reign until he's put all of his enemies under his feet. Not until then will death be destroyed. The destruction of death means resurrection.
@@jtfike The bride is currently walking around as the moon who gives light.
Enoch was there!!!
God showed Enoch everything from the beginning to the end of time!!!
Genesis 7:22 (KJV):
“All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.”
In summary, fallen angels are spiritual beings and do not have the “breath of life” in the way humans and animals do.
The “breath of life” applies to creatures living in the physical world, while angels (including fallen ones) are part of the spiritual realm.
So I believe after the flood the fallen angels created new off springs, just having more control of them. There’s speculation these giants are just hiding now awaiting revelation.
Good conversation. It’s answering some questions I’ve had for awhile.
Good point on min 22, the Israelites were Historically Pagans... The wives of Jacob with their Idols (one can assume that their children learn from these mothers)... Jacob told YHWH: "If You Bless me, and Prosper me, and Keep me Safe... THEN, You will be my God"... The whole OT is the story of God Convincing the Israelites (through His Prophets) to Worship Only Him so that the Nations see His Power and also Serve Him... By the way, He Never Completely Succeeded... There went the Plan to Reconcile Humanity with its Creator...
My only issue with the hybrid view is that it seems to give demons creative power and yahweh makes souls for them
And that it's completely false and says no such thing in Scripture.
They created nothing, they used what YHWH had already created DNA
[1Co 15:40 KJV]
There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another.
@user-fc2hb3de2w but angels can't create life so if angels had sex with women, then that means God gave the angels children which makes no sense. God never told angels to be fruitful and multiply. Angels appear to be genderless. I think the royal view makes more sense.
Evil god of OT
Great subject matter, even though I don't agree with some of the points discussed. Nevertheless, I will continue to come back and watch. Great interview 👍.
Thanks!
I saw a movie once, I think it was "The Man Who Would Be King", (Sean Connery and Michael Caine) whereby they come across pagans worshiping a strange god, they asked them why don't you forget these gods and worship the real God? they answered, "yes, we know about the read God, we know that He will forgive us but these other gods are not so forgiving, so we better worship them too" (something to that effect).
I have seen a few of your episodes before and they are just great. Thank you for sharing; I can not wait to listen to more content.
QUESTION
Was the Younger-Dryas event the Noah Flood? It has been carbon-dated some 12,000 years ago.
Were the enormous Egyptian megalithic sites such as those at Karnak, Giza and Lexor as well as the many huge cut blocks weighing well over 1000 tons antediluvian?
Were the enormous associated statues in reality the antediluvian Nephilim?
No to all 3. Antediluvian fossils carbon Fate😢 to 40,000 years, roughly. Nothing on the surface of the earth is from before The flood except exposed kratons in only a few places. The Great Unconformity is the deepest extent of the erosion from the flood
I can see that. But I'm no one important. *lol*
No, the Younger-Dryas event was not the flood of Noah (which happened only about 5000 years ago). The Bible doesn't say that Noah's flood was global, but it does say that there was an earlier flood that was truly global where not a single living thing survived (Not a ark full of life). Do a study on the Greek word "Katabole" as it it used in the New Testament (Strong's #2602). It it quite possible that the Younger-Dryas event could be that event.
@@IHateThisHandleSystem no, it is not. The so called younger dryas is never claimed to be the source of the entire geologic column
@@cosmictreason2242 I didn't say it was. I said there might be a possible connection. Of course, if it were true, it wouldn't matter that scientists do not make such a claim. Scientists says the Bible is false, so clearly the scientists are wrong about many things.
Hi guys. Great program. Are you familiar with a TH-cam channel called the God Culture? I came across it some years ago. They used the book of Jubilee’s and some other sources as well as much research. I have found they answer a lot of questions or at least make you think about things.
Thanks for sharing all of you hard work.
58:24: Great insight. The Nephilim lost the opportunity to corrupt the Messianic line!
A breath of fresh air and insight. Thanks much. Love you both
There are 12 Nations, that's why there are 12 constellation 12 foundations a tree that bears 12 types of fruit and 12 tribes of Israel 12 months in a year, 12 gates. So a tribe shall take a nation through a gate unto the tree and they will present a sacrifice 12 times a year.. 😊 So beautiful the manifold wisdom of God.
The nephilim did not survive, the fallen angels survived and came back and re-committed their original sins.
I made the same observation, but hadn't read any comments at the time. Spot on.
If the fallen angels came back and recommitted their sins, then where are their Nephilim offspring today?
@@fredray40Fossilised😇😇🙁
And the Smithsonian institute has robbed and hidden any evidence of giants.
@@fredray40UFO Alien abduction is another theory speculation that fallen watchers pretending to be aliens, trying to impregnate human females again to improve the hybridisation process.
Check out Pastor Chuck MISSLER.
He has videos on you tube about the Nephilim.
You are correct - all we’re destroyed in the flood. A recurrence of the original interbreeding happened again after the flood (and some say it’s happening once again in our time)
QUESTION: How do you think the watchers & nephilim shaped the ante-diluvian world in terms of teaching humans skills and does the modern occult or technology finds its roots in these practices?
They were obviously violent since the Earth was filled with violence.
Gary Wayne - Genesis 6th Conspiracy. Check it out, its a great history from the giants till now.
In order for that to be true, someone on the Ark would most likely have to have brought those practices through the flood... And most likely that person would also have to have been a witch or a medium...
I read a book called Clock Shavings I think. The author explained how she communicated to Cain through a Quiga Board. Had full conversations back and forth with him. So thats how it can easily be transferred from demons directly even if the witches and warlocks die off ever the centuries.
Cain is following his descendants closely btw.
I very much doubt that it is Cain himself. He's dead. The demons, however, are watching us all closely.
Great broadcast. I have been seeking answers to these questions. Thanks
Perhaps one or two Nephilims had hide themselves in the Arch..
SEE THE MIDNIGHTRIDE!!! With David & Jon, they have the answer!!!
There was an episode of Sasquatch Chronicles with a guy who had a Bigfoot experience during the day when he was out hiking. He got lost and fell away from the trail and couldn’t find his way. He said that he saw this huge black hairy creature ( Bigfoot ) and he said the creature pointed like we do and said, “ we watch “. He took off and followed the direction that the Bigfoot pointed and soon found the trail. I thought that was very interesting that it said, “ we watch “.
It seems like they are trying to help him avoid the wild ones.
Watchers appears in the book of Daniel, too. Dan 4:13,17,23
Wouldn’t a Pastor know that?
Do you expect that we all know this Script by heart? If you're too lazy to "copy 'n paste" then never mind
I believe in Daniel, the watcher on the wall refers to men delegated to sit on the wall to alert the town when danger is approaching. We are to be “watchers on the wall” alerting the world around us of the danger that is coming and hopefully turn them towards God.
OR, it COULD BE that once inhabited by the foreign entities, the swine, highly intelligent and sinless creatures in their own right, literally ran amok, not understanding what was happening in a manner uncontrollable by said demons, sending themselves into the sea (the Abyss, which is 'geographically' connected to Tartaros). Remember, biblically there are no other known instances of demons possessing hogs, so we don't know HOW the animals might react. How poetic would it be that, as was presented by Dr. Chaffey, the demons thought they were so diabolically cunning as to outwit Jesus, doing the deed in order to disrupt the Ministry, or perhaps bring about Jesus' death-by-swineherd, only to have Jesus already know what the pigs would do, and allowed it, because the disposition the demons specifically requested of the Messiah NOT perform (send them to the third part of Sh'ol) He didn't (so, He kept His Word to them), acquiesced to their wish, which landed them quite asea, twice-over! 😄
Yes! We now call them Conservatives! You're gaining knowledge of the unknown.
I like your analogy and I agree with you .
Smart little piggies. Saved the whole village from demons
Extremely interesting and thought provoking.
Excellent discussion~🙏👑🕊️✨
Great work..appreciate your channel, and the information you bring us. Thanks.
Listened to the first episode, and about 1/2 of this so far. Several questions:
1. It doesn’t follow that fallen beings could simply procreate with human women. There’s a lot of assumptions there, and it seems to give more power to these beings than in implied in Scripture.
2. Why would the offspring of this unholy match be a giant? I see no logical or Scriptural reason why this would be the case - it’s simply assumed.
Reread Genesis
In Africa they do it a lot
Reread Genesis 3:15 God explains a seed war... His seed (the fallen) and thy seed. Plus, scripture stated that God's angels can take human physical form, which can surely mean the fallen could do the same.
They were giants, that's not even up for debate, however the term "giants" comes from the mistranslation of the Latin word "gigantes", which looks and sounds like it "should" be "giants", but actually means "Earth born".
I believe the Bible describes some angels being real tall they say great height. I think it's in the book of revelation.
Also scriptures say angels can take human form. This doesn't imply they can't procreate or if they could it's a possibility.
Jesus also mentioned that angels don't marry. I think this means they were not created for that purpose. Especially when you're in the service of God in the spiritual realm.
Another thing that it also mentions is that the angels that are imprisoned I think it's mentioned in the book of Job. These are the same ones from the time of Methuselah.noeh grandfather in Noah's time.
It also says these angels abandon their estate their home the spiritual realm to be here in the human realm.
So it's a possibility to do so. If so they might have been really tall, or really strong, at least stronger than normal humans. In the early days of the church they used to believe this. Then they changed the sons of God to the sons of Israel. Israel was not a nation yet during this time. Or the sons of Seth they were not allowed to mix with Cain's side.
Why not the 4th explanation. The Word Nephilim could also mean tyrannts. More of an adjective. This is the best explanation and understanding. Since angels can not reproduce.
And, that's exactly what it says.
@@stephensmith7597immortal beings have no need to procreate and therefore don't have the ability.
Except when 'sons of God' is used elsewhere (as in Job) it is clearly meaning angels. Jesus didn't say angels 'couldn't reproduce' He said the 'didn't reproduce'. There is no need for them to reproduce 'in heaven' as they are immortal. But they are said to 'leave their first estate' and take on fleshin Greek 'oketerion'. Oketerion is also used of humans who put on immortal bodies at the resurrection. Remember the angels who came to Abraham ate food, they obviously didn't need to eat, but they did.
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IT DOESNT SAY 'sons of God' in the HEBREW!
Please learn to study and refer to the original language.
If it says 'bni elohim' that is 'sons of God', but what you are referring to says 'bni HA'elohim' which means 'sons of THE gods' referring to rulers, judges, MEN in power.
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1Cor 15:40 KJV
There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another.
I don`t know if this will help, I remember Dr. Heiser also referring to the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim as "bastard spirits," which refers to them being "illegitimate spirits," and that takes us back to the Nephilim. Also to note: "God is the Father of spirits," Hebrews 12:9, Numbers 16:22, and Numbers 27:16, but NOT THEM SPIRITS! (for they came about ILLEGITIMATELY!)
We need this to be taught in church.
this discussion around the 27-28 min mark where different demons/gods battle each other or take over each other's territory reminds me of the recent testimony of a warlock turned christian wherein they will conquer and battle (in the spirit realm) other witches and warlocks and fight for their territory. They kill and hurt each other to expand their power and control. There is certainly no honor amongst them which is not entirely unexpected under the rule of the devil.
This would have been more profitable if the interviewer had let the interviewee speak more.
I was hoping the interviewer would refrain from "dominating the conversation". 😢
He aways dominates the guest. He is his favorite guest lol
@ShooterReview Yeah. Watched a few Webbin vids and he seems to exude an aroma of arrogance and pride. Kind of sad really.
Pastor Allen Nolan does a great job with this - actually, with everything related to the Bible.
I feel that same way about Jordan Peterson
Thank you , excellent biblical presentation.🙏🏽🕊✝ This answered some of my questions if they are among us today. I read the lost texts in the cipher and kjvvae and the book of Enoch. God Bless.
Professor X aka Hedwick from Split is moving SO UNBIBLICALLY. Show us in scripture we’re the Bible says demons are fallen angels. You CANT.
The Nephilim are not with us today however, the watchers are and the watchers are those people who are destroying us, and they are the people in our government
@@TxVoice4Truth Demons are not Nephal Malakim, demons are the disembodied spirits of Ha Nephilim, the offspring of Ha Nephal Malakim.
Please, I'm not trying to be weird or funny...my family and I have had years of being harassed by large, apelike beings called by Native American tribes "Sasquatch". I have been a Christian from age 9 when I asked Jesus to save me. I am now in a safer location. These things are evil. Hairy...Their eyes glow red.
I have been protected by God while I lived isolated where these stinking, vile, murderous things terrorized the live stock and people. I am serious...could they be corrupted flesh ?. They walk upright and speak a very gutteral language. They killed all our animals. A study was done and they have human DNA mother origin and the father is unknown DNA.Please reply.
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If they were the same Angels, why have the Nephilim gotten smaller?
I believe the flood and Tower of Babel limited the gene pool and this plus human-demon Nephilim account for the shrinking in stature.
Just like we don't live to be 900 years plus the atmosphere of the Earth changed after the flood and heavier gravity came about keeping growth down this we only have 9 to 12 foot giants after the flood versus 20 to 30 foot or bigger before the flood
There are Nephilim, Rephaim, Gibborim… they are not all the same.
It’s from interbreeding with humans millennia ago… Which dilute the gene pool each successive time it happens. For example, Goliath was a remnant of a giant. He was several thousand years after the flood.
Yes. The second incursion theory is correct. That's why the Bible says there were Naphilim appeared before and AFTER the flood.
Tough question, no easy answers from scripture.
Thankfully, the message of the Gospel answers the more critical questions of life.
Nephilim (clouds) is plural for Nephele (cloud), The sons of Nephilim = RAIN. They are often accompanied by the fiery flying serpent (lightning).
Curious as to Dr. Chaffey's views on Bigfoot and any connections to giants, "UFOs", the demonic, & general "Haunted Cosmos" (including Dogman) stuff.
I have heard Cryptid researchers refer to all of kind of activity to the fallen angels and the Nephilim...
@@JettBlastScott carpenter ...wrote books about dogmen and bigfoot . He had run ins with these beings ...he Believed ...that big foot had something to do with the nephilim..instead of giantopithicus ....he was a big foot researcher.wrote a bunch of books and had done numerous. TH-cam videos on them ...he said that bigfoot were not to be trusted ...also there are different types of bigfoot ...there was DNA done on bigfoot ...what they came up with was human female and male extinct animal ...so something was mixing up human DNA and animals thousands of years ago .....
Bigfoot - some say it is Cain. lol
I live in northern Utah and there's a cryptid here who has been seen many times which they've named Cain. Everyone knows him by name. Nobody has attempted to communicate with him. His hair is silver. I've never seen him but there's a whole bunch of people who have. He's in the mountains in the north Ogden divide area.
@@MedusasFeelinSalty Does hair reflect light and help him disappear into the background?
Why doesn't anyone see how they came back from the sea? Dagon was a fish 🐟 god, and Oannes is mentioned throughout Babylonia history. I've been seeing this for nearly 15 years now. They returned from the sea 🌊.
Then everything with the breath of life in its nostrils was not destroyed and the text is broken
@@cosmictreason2242 not necessarily, if you can breathe both on land and sea. Then it makes perfect sense to highlight the ones that only breathe air. Nothing broken the Word is perfect.
@@Roger_Carter the Canadian mcanaanite deities are not antediluvian beings
Very good point. I will investigate further.
Shalom!
@brianj5495 Check out Oannes, and Babylon. Shalom
The flood was not for the nephelim only, but for all humanity.
And the animals too - they did some no nos with the animals too. Bottom line: it's a seed war! Still is
Above comment. Only 8 in the arm God saved.
@@michaelahenderson2793Chimera
Enjoyed the conversation very informative . Thanks
The Partial Preterist is not addressing the imminent time texts that point to Satan and the Watchers judgment being “shortly” and would “not be delayed” (Rms. 16:20; 2 Pet. 2/1 Pet. 4:5-7, 17). This was fulfilled in AD 70.
I believe it is a mistake to assume that fallen angels are not still at work creating Nephilim, or at least attempting to infiltrate the human genome.
It’s my belief that it’s the nephilim that started transhumanism, and they are still at it today via the WEF. There are many military whistleblowers who stated they came across a red bearded giant in Kandahar Afghanistan, and even more in deep underground military bunkers. I believe they are still here… just as the Bible states they were in the land in their days, and also after. Nowhere does the Bible state they were ever gone forever. The fallen angels could have left the earth… and that probably the most likely explanation of “aliens”. Alien literally means not of the earth. Mankind is Gods only creation made out of the dust of the earth, per scripture. Also explains all the latest “alien news” that’s suddenly being spoken about over the past few months.., after decades of denying it, and now admitting they are real. I think they will use this to explain away the rapture, because the devil knows his time is almost up. Just my two cents.
Several early Christian writers wrote at length on this topic and deemed that there is a high probability that the antichrist will be a giant.
Its cool listen to people guessing and coming up with there own theories.and if thats the case why are there no giants today? And even in the bibke the giants were only 10ft tall. Not as tall as people have depicted over time
10’ is definitely gigantic for the human species. If you search on TH-cam “large/tall people” some DNA has survived.
Some depictions put them much larger. None today because we whooped their asses lol.
The nephilim is a interesting topic, but I think Gen. 6:1-8 is being miss interpreted wrongly.
Two main problems:
1- God created all angels.
2- So, can angels have sex?
Many more questions lay around these two problems.
Thanks, Ron.
The text clearly says that the nephilim existed before and after the sons of god and the daughters of men got tineyhrt, so they are not the offspring of
@@cosmictreason2242 Nothing in the Bible suggests man got tiny. If that's what you're claiming. It's kinda hard to discern what you mean by tineyhrt.
Yes. They can have sex. There are spirit spouses.
@@MercyNnabuihe heresy
@@cosmictreason2242 I know you would like to believe that. I hold a Masters in Theology and I understand what heresy is. Many things considered heresy in Seminary is not. Plus, I’m speaking of my personal experience so get outta here. You cannot testify to my life and what’s happened to ME! How often do you pray and fast? Dwell in prayer and fasting and the realms of both kingdoms will open more to you; and to attract noteworthy attention from the kingdom of God, and of darkness. Then you will share your own experiences rather than mere analysis and paralysis.
You will understand that the spirit realm is far advanced, active and involved in your life than you are in your very own life. I am a believer who see very well what I speak of. I don’t speak heresy. Lukewarm Christians are blind and asleep to everything and to them everything is heresy.
Well in Jewish literature is simply that the a wife of Noah son’s had the bloodline. This was apart of their tradition that Noah and his wife were “pure blood”. But that doesn’t screen out his daughter in-laws.
They survived because they are spirits, and spirits don’t die.
Above comment. Spirits will die when God picks to
No angel mated with a women that’s not true, they just had the 🧬 gene of being a giant
Giant is a bad translation of nephilim which means 'tyrants, bullies, fellers'. Giants in social status not physical stature.
People were larger before the flood and remnants spring up in the genetics after.
How would you know that? Were you there?
It literally says they did in Gen 6 so I'm gonna go with God on this one
Read the book Enoch
Even though the book of Enoch was taken out of the bible the book of Enoch was quoted in the bible
An incredibly interesting topic we will never know for sure until God reveals it to us and that's if He chooses to. It's an obsession of mine I admit
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
-Acts 3:19
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Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
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God has already revealed it. Genesis 3 and Genesis 6 relates in sin. SAW, GOOD ( BEAUTIFUL) AND TOOK. Cains lineage starts with man. Seth's lineage starts with God.
Seventh son Lamech. Cains line was a proud, boastful Murderer, who had multiple wives. Seth line Lamech humble and sorrowful of sin. God states who is responsible. Man, Men and MANKIND is mentioned how many times? Angels, Fallen angels, or Demons isn't mentioned once.
@@jthomas7904yes, corruption is mentioned first in Genesis 3:14. You must understand the paranormal/supernatural aspects of Scripture or you will not have an accurate view of God.
It would seem to me that the answer is in the book itself. That Noah alone was unblemished in all his generations. It came back into the World through his wife, their sons and wives. Through their descendants. All flesh was corrupted but Noah who was unblemished in his generations.
Just one son... Ham. When the sons of God took for themselves wives from the daughters of men. Naphal ~ root word for Nephilim means tyrants and bullies. Giants ~ old English means Tyrants and bullies.
I've heard somewhere that "refaim" actually means something like "self-healing ones", which is why David had to cut of Goliath's head.
That might be where you got the word "healer" from.
Either way, awesome video, thanks alot!
Around the 34:30 mark, the discussion of the demons entering into the swine. Chaffey's interpretation is reasonable, but I think it is important to look at this passage in Luke 8:31: "And they besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep." Is it not possible that the demons believed that they might escape judgment by going into the pigs, but when the pigs entered the water, the spirits were now trapped in the water? In other words, the demons did not "trick" Jesus into harming his ministry, but rather, Jesus granted their request albeit prompting them to receive an unwanted suspension in an element hostile to them.
When Nimrod moved to Shinar what do you think he found buried in the sand after the flood of Noah? could he have dug up the ancient science of DNA manipulation? in a flood everything settles to the lowest spot, it say's he began to become!!!
Short version: They didn't. More fallen angels left their estate later.
There were giants in the earth in those days and also after that.....amen!
In the Talmud there are accounts of Nephilim hanging in the ark and on its deck.
The Talmud is evil fables and kabbalah.
True version: there wasn't any.
If you read Genesis chapter 10 verses 15-18 closely it says this about the lineage of Canaan:
Verse 15: Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; 16 the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; 17 the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; 18 the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed.
The Amorites were a race of giant beings. It is clear that they were a direct descendant of Canaan as noted in verse 16. Amos 2:9 describes these giants being as tall as cedar trees which could've been anywhere from 30 feet in height or taller. I don't have all the answers and I never will, but this helped me understand how there were a race of post-flood giant beings that dwelt in the land of Canaan.
Your on the ball big man, thanks man, I hope people understand whats going on here on earth.
on the "plane" ;)
Im going to make a suggestion, please dont be offended. It seems like you do not let the guest speak enough, you start to ask a question and take a considerable amount of time before you let the guest respond. Simple to the point questions, so that the guest can elaborate and respond appropriately.
7:45 were the postdiluvian angels not part of the Hermon pact? Because from what I understand, they agreed to fall together.
Some of the fallen angels gave up their first estate. I heard a theory where when the Hebrew is scrutinized, estate refers to their heavenly bodies, their bodies becoming flesh. This would seem to make sense when we think about the ability to of sex. And might be extended to being killed in the flood.
Wow, jackpot. I've heard so many theories over the years. Some- I can rule out as unlikely. If the Gen 6 word is not WHEN but WHENEVER, That is a lock to me. It will take something extraordinary to persuade me otherwise. Good job guys.
How about the phrase 'sons of God' in Gen 6:4 actually says sons of the gods (rulers, judges, those in power) - see Jasher 4- and Nephilim means 'tyrants, bullies, fellers' (like RockeFELLER) not 'giants' as in physical stature and the word 'became' is ADDED and not in the original ...
@@MyChihuahuayep the bible had been changed!!! So much for being written by god. Hahahahaha
@@ChrisFerguson-zm4gt Scripture was written by the inspiration of Elohim. Bibles are just translations subject to error.
@@MyChihuahua Nephilim were giant beings. They have found bones of them all over the world. By giant I don’t mean 7 or 8 feet. I mean anywhere from 12 to 25 or 30 feet.
@@ChrisFerguson-zm4gt men can corrupt what God has intended. It started in the garden and continues to this day-with your behavior, for example.
Thank you for your ministry, really appreciate these podcasts.
I too hold to the angelic view.. My question is however, how can angels have seed that can fertilize? As angels aren’t sexual beings, they may be able to shapeshift, however how can they have seed?
Thanks
Because what you call angels is actually extra terrestrial. That look just like us. It's how we got here. You need to look into the sumerian texts thar tell the same stories as the Bible its just thousands of years older.
The Bible says they are not given in marriage in heaven (i.e they don't have sex) not that they "can't" have sex.
In heaven they have no need for procreation. They do have the ability to procreate and do have "seed" or they would not have been able to "go into" [have sex] with the human women.
@darrenmcdowell262 your statement is based on a demonic lie. Stop promoting what is in opposition to the clear teaching of Scripture.
Only two types of bodies: elohim (spirit) and mankind.
@@TheWayWalkerthank you my brother. Truth. I wanted to share but you beat me to it.
@@darrenmcdowell262 the Sumerian stories are not quite the same but are similar. The biblical accounts are polemics against the Sumerian texts. Basically refuting that the Sumerian stories in which they venerated these great beings of renowned (heros of old) the Annunaki and such were in reality created beings. Who then created, Half devine, half human beings the Nephilim. And that they were not the creators of mankind, were not heroes but were the children of the watchers (Annunaki). Because they were part devine and giants they would naturally have been seen as Gods. In fact the Watchers who were supposed to watch over mankind became corrupt and caused mankind to serve and worship them instead of their creator. Not only that they corrupted the earth, consumed its resources and did experiments on both man and beast therfore corrupting all flesh. The flood was a mercy on mankind and judgement on the corrupt man/beasts/Nephilim and watchers who had proliferated evil on the earth.
So, the bible, while younger than the Sumerian texts were refutations of those texts and telling the true origins of mankind. This is why they are very similar and all over the world including Asia. It's pretty fascinating really when you think about it.
It is so weird to me how much precedent people put on "canonical" books rather than accept that Jude and Peter both made clear that the Book of Watchers from Enoch 1 was prophecy related to Genesis 6.
Great discussion. Thanks
Answer: They did not survive... the Rebellious Angels did it again afterwards...
I concur. None of those fools, escaped *that* flood.
But in that case the only women available were those on the Ark? Unless they waited for those people to have offspring into maturity etc years later?