The Process: What do the 76ers Do Now?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ธ.ค. 2024
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That Kawhi shot never gets old, sixers folklore is incomplete without that shot.😂 and that quote from Jimmy ' Thobais Harris over me'😂😂😂😂😂
The embid 80ft shot was the one which blew my mind
“What if they kept Jimmy” I think will always be a good question. I definitely don’t think him and Ben could’ve played long term but I think that was the make or break moment for The Process
Championship most likely would have been the outcome if " they kept jimmy" imo.
What if they drafted Booker instead of Okafor in 2015? Honestly changes the trajectory of this team. Ben may not have even been in the cards
Or what if they just drafted Jalen Brown? They would probably be a lot better off. I won’t say Tatum because if Boston thought that Philly would’ve drafted Tatum, they would’ve just stayed at first.
Sixers are so delusional. Butler don't want to be there. He wants the Heat Culture.
@@shadowgrandmasterjimmy wants money lol if sixers can pay he will go, and that heat team would be nothing without him anyways
The process drafting consecutive bigs then guards who unfortunately can't shoot due to laziness or physical problems.
I think the flaw in the Process was underestimating the fact other teams were rebuilding too and doing it in much better ways. Case in point: Boston out built them by taking advantage of overzealous teams. Philly should know, because Boston turned the first overall pick into the third and a 2019 pick, which was used to select Romeo Langford, who wasn’t good but was valuable enough to be flipped for Derrick White…
I agree. Instead of relying on being a good GM, hinikie just tried to suck as much as possible to get all the high draft picks. Which may work, but wouldn’t result in a championship
@@Theopinson_57 are you on crack? The league forced Hinkie out and the dirty duo of Collarangelo and Brad traded away ALL of Hinkie's assets overnight, gave Tobias Harris the money to be the highest paid player on the team for half a decade, they kept Ben Simmons and Brett Brown for too long, let Jimmy go, signed Tobias, THEY traded away Mikael Bridges, THEY signed Al Horford, THEY traded up for and drafted Fultz, NOT Hinkie. are you stupid or something? Did you even bother to fucking pay attention the last decade?
Relax there. All I said was Hinikie plan to suck as much as possible for an extended period of time, was immature at best. And it showed through his poor draft choices
The difference is that "The Process" fosters a terrible culture in that they just get used to losing on purpose. Championship teams build the championship mentality by making runs from the regular season to the playoffs. It doesn't help that Ben and Embiid are frauds.
1. Trade Embiid and blow it up
2. Flip the Harden assets for someone
Just two options. Embiid is 30. Injury prone big men don't age well.
Someone aka Trey Murphy
I know this is a rogue concept in todays NBA.. but developing your scouting department is just as important as developing your roster. Drafting best available every year does nothing but sell opening day tickets.
the process 100% worked. you touched on it briefly but most people don't remember how awful this era of the 76ers was. Also, if you want to know if the process worked, go ask the Charlotte Hornets or Detroit Pistons' front office if they want 7 straight playoff appearances and 5 playoff series wins. Fuck yeah, they'd take that! And in fact, this process worked so well it was even copied in other sports. "Tanking" existed in other sports, for sure, but the 76ers showing that it worked and how it worked allowed for teams like the Houston Astros in the early 2010s to tank like hell then draft a slew of top guys then dominate. The Dolphins tried it (but really only got Tua out of it).
If your goal is mediocrity sure. But the end goal of NBA teams is to build championship teams. You just don't build up a culture of winning basketball if you intentionally lose games.
The whole process thing was ridiculously dumb and a massive fail. They traded guys like Jrue, Covington, and Jerami Grant that could've grown with Embiid... All so they could get more top picks that turned into Fultz/Simmons.... Tanking works to an extent but you can't value picks over development and that's what 76ers did.
Had they actually tried to improve and develop the guys they had, they'd probably have a title and I bet Embiid wouldn't be this way. They grew your star in a culture of losing to game the system, instead of just putting in the work. It shows in his mentality now with no accountability and tons of excuses.
Your whole point is based on it working better for them then terrible teams like DET... You're right, it isn't the worst strategy, but it's still pretty bad.
This is like a guy with $500k debt saying he didn't have a bad financial strategy, Joe and Mary are $750k in debt so my strategy was a success.
No you failed just like DET failed lmao you want a participation trophy for getting to second round? Leave it to Philly to claim a second round loss as a success. Most pathetic fan base alive 😂😂😂
@@Michael-vn2jj they did try to develop their players like Embiid and Simmons. Just unlucky because they are both frauds.
@@simple45679 lol but they never needed to get Simmons.
Rewind back to 2012.. 76ers upset the Bulls in first round and lose in second round to BOS. That 76ers team in 2012 had a young Jrue Holiday(traded straight up after that run for Nerlens Noel draft pick), they had a prime Andre Igoudala, prime Lou Williams off bench, young Vucevic... They blew it all up that off-season after Sam Hinkie came in with his genius plan...
It's been twelve years and the 76ers have yet to surpass what that Jrue Holiday team did their first go at it together as a unit. Hinkie thought having draft picks was the key though, forgot you have to draft the right guys and develop role players. They continuously traded the young role guys they found to contending teams for more picks or youth.
They had Christian Wood super young and waived him to sign a retirement home version of Elton Brand because they were more interested in losing games than developing players. They also fired Doug Collins, who coached that team well and brought in Brett Brown claiming that he was an expert with a passion for developing players... Lmfao had they never hired Hinkie, they probably get past second round in last 12 years
@@simple45679 and it's not unlucky lol they had a culture of losing, shortcuts, and excuses.
It's not unlucky that your young players developed bad traits by being in a bad situation. Lmao but PHI never takes any accountability for anything. It's always just luck or this guy did this to us. Lol perennial losers.
Bro great video, can you make one about how the heat constantly make the playoffs? Love the content keep it up❤❤❤
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That’s not even impressive anymore since you can be 10th seed and still have a chance to make it in the playoffs
@@taxationistheft7 but will that 10th seed make it every year??? That's a pointless argument
@@taxationistheft7huh? 8 teams make it this arguement is pointless the same thing has happened every year in nba history what are you gonna discredit coach pop for leading the spurs to 22 straight playoffs?
@IllaMatik222 its been like 4 years calm down EvErY YeAr 🥴
Seeing them fail shows that tanking is for losers
No way we’re still asking if the process failed 😂
It’s over boys
Process didn't fail until embiid isn't on the roster. The whole point of the process was to get a star that could lead them to a ring. Embiid is an mvp in his prime and might get them there. Huge offseason for the 76ers though, if they fail this offseason it's over
As long as they have Embiid in his prime. It’s not a failure because they always will have a shot at a championship
@@Theopinson_57 other then prime, more like bro seems to be in his injury prime, a first-second round exit doesn't really sound like a shot for a chip.
Btw love Toby but not his contract
I don't know man, the way Embiid gets hurt every year makes it seem doubtful to me that he'll ever make it to NBA finals unless he sits out the first half of the season.
a minutes silence for all bros who trusted the process!
The bigger what if is if they drafted Tatum
If they drafted Tatum he would have been Tobias, Tatum wouldn't have chucked his way to prominence over the years. Their skillset is not that different and neither is their choke level. If Tobias had the ball all the damn time he would have been getting high assists after 5-6 seasons too.
Gotta admit. This a legit first. First time ive watched a video that was recorded with 5 different mics.
😭
Crazy roast
They are the cowboys of the NBA . The comparisons are literally so similar it’s insane
Only difference is the Cowboys at least had a dynasty at one point. 6ers have never had that
@@Bankai2169 very good point. I’m an eagles fan but not a sixers fan (thank god). As much as I don’t like dallas yes they were a dynasty and a dominant one sadly. The sixers will always be mediocre in 2nd round purgatory with embiid
Nah, Sixers are the eagles of nba
Ben Simmons wasnt the sole reason they lost in the Hawks series TBF. Embiid had back-to-back 8 turnover games in Game 6 and 7
maybe not sole but I’ll lay 85% of the blame on him
Omg 8 turnovers almost like HIS FUCKIN POINT GUARD FORGOT HOW TO PLAY BASKETBALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SERIES and he, a center, had to handle the ball even more. While in game 7 Tobias did his best Kobe impression shooting 8-24.
@@andrewkelly1337 personally I think Embiid shooting 4-20 in Game 4 was the better Kobe Impression 🤔
Don't get me wrong though, I agree Ben Simmons is a large factor to why they lost I just hate when people act like he's the *sole* reason they lost when Tobias Harris and Embiid both shit the bed at points during the series
Philly failed on EVERY. SINGLE. PART. of The Process. If they hadn't lucked out on Embiid they would be the single most incompetent office in all of American sports.
ben simmons was lowkey crazy before he became what he is today, injuries and confidence man
Awesome video!
Spurs a good destination
Here's an idea.
Washington gets K Johnson, Sochan, Wesley, Branham, Bassey, the #16, #35, #41, #48
Spurs get Poole, the #26, and Embiid
Sixers get Graham, Z Collins, the #2 (Clingan), the #4 (Sheppard), and the #8 (Castle)
Spurs can then reroute Poole by himself with picks for a much better point guard (the #26, the protected Chicago 1st, etc.) leaving them with that all-star, Vassell, Wemby, and Embiid core.
Washington can still get hold of their center of the future which should be their main goal this offseason.
Sixers would have a great young core and Clingan can cruise up smoothly behind Collins in 2024-25. Sixers would be able to afford 2 max guys in 2025 (Collins will be dispensable), an actual good free agency, and be a 2026 and beyond title favorite. If Maxey misses significant time you play it like Portland did in the pre-Scoot year and if that pick is top 4 you already know the harvest. Literally all the current projected top guys would fit great with the Maxey/Sheppard/Castle/Clingan core.
Meanwhile the Sixers could still afford to trade for Trey Murphy if they want, before the 25 deadline. I'd probably give NO like 3 1sts in February and then load manage Murphy lolol. Gotta love RFA, it should almost always be used unless your cap is already full and roster stable and the guy is an All-star level, like when they paid Embiid the early extension. For example this would still not apply to Haliburton and Sacramento even though his stardom could easily be seen coming if you looked at his play and stats when Fox was injured.
All that tanking to get Embiid
For nothing
So much for the process
"all that sex for nothing"
"well, that is a pretty grim assess-ment"
😅😅
tbh it was never Tobias Harris that was chosen over Jimmy
it was Ben and Brett because Jimmy wanted the ball in late game situations but those two said no
As long as they have Embitch The MVPity on their roster, they're cursed to never go past the 1st round.
Now I'm worried about the Knicks
They need to rebuild. Trade Embiid and start from scratch.
I feel bad for the sixers man.. I like to see teams that have been bad for years or in the sixers case bad and even memed come back and win big but I guess it wasn’t meant to be.
Tanking will be prevented if it will be like European football, relegation and promotion format,
We don't have enough teams for that.
Look, I don't have any sympathy for Harden, but if Daryl Morey ran multiple stars out of Philadelphia, I'm forced to conclude that Harden might not have been the problem after all.
Andrew Bynum never played at philly...
Drew holliday was traded for Noel and a first round pick, they knew he wasn't the future.
'Drew Holliday' sounds like a good young rapper inspired by the prohibition era gangsters
Meanwhile, if JRue had barz, his wife would be hotter 🤷
This is gonna be fun 😂, healthy Embiid is the best Sorry
Trae Young wasn't amazing vs Philly in 2021, his 29 ppg were all volume, he shot below league average in every part of the court, and was actually being well defended by Ben Simmons, hence his being pissed off for being the only one blamed. Check out Tobias Harris in that series, betcha he stunk too, and Philly had huge leads in their losses and that's on Joel too.
You can't lose the actual events in this history man, it's more complicated than Ben Simmons sucks and Jimmy was too expensive. Good video but it's not accurate the way you over simplified it.
Yeah I did notice Trae was inefficient when I looked over it, but he was the driving force behind the hawks O. He of course wasn’t perfect, but I sort of alluded to that when I said the extreme depth of the Hawks in that series was the killer
Also, I didnt really go with the “Ben Simmons bad” narrative, even though I did bash him. It’s hard to praise Simmons for playing good defense when he had genuinely one of the worst offensive performances in a playoff series to date. I remember it was one game where the 6ers were up big after the first half, and Embiid and Seth combined for like all their points in the second half
Now I do think you’re right, I did gloss over some details. I didn’t really mention how the Atlanta loss was on guys other than Ben Simmons, and I did scoot past the Jimmy Butler tensions.
Thanks for the constructive criticism bro u appreciate it.
You can give someone all the money they need but if they spend it poorly they will be broke like everyone else.
Khawi walked.... and Jimmy wanted to leave.... thankful for Maxey
Jimmy didn’t want to leave initially, but of course picking someone like Tobias Harris who disappears when it matters would make me wanna leave too I won’t lie
If they dumped Harris, kept Jimmy and didn't draft Okafor they would've been in good shape.
They need to not pull a ravens and stop paying a playoff chokers
Yes
They gotta blow it up it’s very clear this teams never winning anything with Embiid
Philly scared to death to lose Embiid
@@theetruth8626
A bit too scared
F embid,dogz dont cry,and he did that LIVE,76 should rePROCES again,back then 🤣
The process was killed when they got rid of hinkie it was his vision and no one else could see it through
Lots of Ben Simmons fans in the comments, where’s he playing now?
Live Stream, USA, why? 😅
They should have taken Tatum,
PROCESS ABORT 😁
While Pennsylvania still a blue state 😬😬 clock's ticking
CLAIMED to have a back injury?!
Lol yeah there was a 90% chance he was faking that injury. He didn’t wanna play for them, he didn’t want the 76ers doctors to check it, and he wasn’t coming close to the team
@@Theopinson_57 You can't fake a back injury.
@@jonahfalcon1970 uh yeah you can. Here let me demonstrate
“I have a back injury!”
Yeah 76 could win a championship if Embid can stay off the floor, in the guy highlights I always see him throwing himself around on the floor and that cost him his MVP and the playoff this season.
The dude is already unhealthy as is but if he keeps ragdolling his giant body around like that is just gonna make it worse. I dont really recall seeing jokic on his ass during any game highlights.
You have to actually be in the air to fall hard 😏😏 are you sure you're still talking about Jokic?
@@Shmuk-bn7ef If enhance and look closely you'll notice he jumps the size of an ant
You need a better De-esser man this is rough to listen to!
Yeah I know. But my mic has come a long way check out my older vids 😭
Still waiting to see the results of this “process”
We only fully tanked for 3 years. That's not that long. The 4th year we won 28. That's only 4 years
Terrible mic
The process fail cause Embiid is a fraud
As a life long Sixers fan watching "The Process" was like watching institutional treason against an entire fan-base. The basketball Gods will punish the Sixers with Kawhi bounce shots, horrendous personnel decisions like "Tobias Harris for me" and the Hawks failure. The Curse of Sam Hinkie will haunt this franchise like the Curs of the Bambino haunted Red Sox fans for almost a century. Go Birds!
The curse didn't start until the league forced them to fire Hinkie and Collangelo started destroying the team. How the Hell have you been a Philly fan that whole and never realized this?
Wasn't no curse of the Bambino, Yankees just literally overpaid for an all-star every season it was possible, and caught ringchasing sellouts wanting the limelight like Jason Giambi in between.
wildly unfair representation of ben simmons here
Failed to mention Joel Embid crapping his pants in the playoffs or his terrible leadership
Jajajaja, embiid grew so much because he became more American and began foul baiting jajajaja