Idk, I think it could have been better if they sped the footage of him up and just dubbed over it with Michael Scott, Andy and Dwight screaming parkour. Especially on the shot of him shooting while staring through the camera into our souls. 😂
Hey as a Swiss owner of a TP9-N including a suppressor I can give you the following tips: FIRST: shoot it suppressed with Fiocchi 158grs Subsonic ammo and it will be MP5SD quiet without the gas in the face. SECOND: Give the trigger (the hammer actually) a little dremel polishing job, after having rounded the edges slightly. The trigger will be 3 times better without sacrificing safety.
I love how this channel is exceptionally informative regarding the weapons and their quirks, but also that you preach training. Without training and being prepared you are not much use, and a danger and liability, to yourself and others, if you get into a life or death situation. Train hard. Train smart.
The full-auto version was $50 cheaper than the semi auto version. I tried to get my lgs to save me money by getting me the full-auto version. He said no.😅
Ah the TMP. One of my favorite guns while running around Brazil, Virginia, Russia and the Middle East back in '09. Not as good as dual Glock 18s but as a wise Sarge once said, *"Sometimes you just gotta go for style points."*
NGL I never felt much use for the TMP, since you had the dual-G18 may may builds, the Raffica (for people who wanted a handheld M16), and the PP2000 for everything else. By the time you unlock the TMP, you would’ve unlocked all the attachments for the other machine-pistols that make them much more viable.
I love this gun. Portable. Reliable. Shootable. Suitable for glock pistol magazine. This is a huge benefit. And it’s cute. For our own safety. Thank you for sharing, Mike.
The iron sights being an after thought makes sense, when I used this thing in combat back in CS:GO and other fps games of my intense gunfighting career, I just hip fired it, no sights required
Good review. FYI, there is a 3-lug adapter available for the suppressor. As you noted, there are plenty of smaller optic and light options to keep the platform more compact. The 15-round flush magazine also seems like a good option to keep the mag from sticking out as far while holstered/carrying. It looks like a great platform for the scenarios you shared while also being a unique and interesting firearm.
That intro though..👏 The slow-motion shots, while staring at the camera.. Wildly inaccurate, one-handed mag-dumps.. And ofcourse, the on-foot "drive-by's" I love it 😭😭😭
What a freaking timing^^ I just looked at some TP9's here in Switzerland and now this review from you, I guess I really need to buy one 😅😅 BTW B&T is offering a conversion kit for the TP9 suppressor, so that you can mount it on 3-Lug muzzles afterwards.
@@LIONTAMER3D I bought it last week, tested it today and it's not that bad to be honest. Quick double-taps are a bit difficult but I thought the trigger will be worse.
@@keyboardlosergod1173 if units aren't running them...but the manufacturer is making them...and they're not being sold to units...yet they're portrayed as a "military" weapon...yeah, sounds like a marketing issue. There's also a quality control issue, not sure if I covered this already, but this gun sucks.
@khobtov, I’m not sure, I’m American, but my uncles family is straight from Italy, he claims it’s real Swiss and I know the American Swiss cheese is more bland than what he gets
Thanks to everyone evolved with Garand Thumb and the positive 2A club. This video was pretty good but I really appreciate all of the ones that have been done in the past that are on guns and tests that I’m more concerned with. Freezing test, and the mud tests have all been spectacular and very interesting. Thanks again for for everything and keep up the good work. My wife and I really like your and Brandon Harrias (the AK guy’s) style of doing these videos.
Dude you absolutely kill me with some of your videos? I love it. The TP9 is 1 of my all time favorites. I got to fire one in Afghanistan with Rotex can of some type that "a team member" had in his range gear set up at Tarnak not too far from KAF *******Not my team ...))someone who was on "a team. you just keep up the good work.
I hate it. It's a great gun, I just think it's ugly af. B&T is objectively one of the most Gucci manuf in the industry, so idk wtf they were thinking when they designed the aesthetics of the TP9. If you think this is kewl, go look at their APC series. No question as a PDW it's beast, it just fkn hideous. People have hated this thing for over a decade. There's entire forums dedicated to ugly the firearm is. Blown away at the swooning here. Lol, I've never encountered anyone that believed that TP9 was a kewl gun. This is crazy. If you ❤️ it get one. They're cheap and readily available.
Sometimes I have to just hit play on a Grand Thumb video, lean my chair back and close my eyes as Mikes soothing voice hugs me like a fluffy cloud and I at peace with my self and at peace with the universe 😶🌫️🥰
As someone who has been forcing right handed guns to bend to my will for years. Your talk of this being bad for lefties makes me want one to figure out how to deal with it 👍
I shoot mine left handed.. it’s not that bad. I use a unity mount to move the light to the other side. The switch pad I have stuck to my forward grip. The gas can get gassy tho
@@ericcaton308 that's good. I have an SBR CMR 30 that is the worst of mine for gas on a can. I don't know why but gasses have never messed with me enough to pay attention to them
@@zbreeden7622 I also have a cmr30 and run an oss (not sure why it corrected to osprey) on it… I can’t get it to cycle right though. Gotta play around with different grain ammo
@@ericcaton308 mine with an srd556-qd runs great in a 10 inch barrel. I normally just use cc1 maximag 40gr. It's far from a combat gun but I've had maybe three hang-ups ever.
Best 2ndary weapon ever in COD.. Modern Warfare 3 was so fun with this gun and extended mags! It was the one secondary gun that I felt just as comfortable using as a primary... Many enemies slain with this^ A great SMG in real life as well, Swiss/Austrians make great stuff always
That thing ripped in MW3. It was absolutely OP as a secondary. I would pair it with the MSR and go to town. I could easily move to different sniping locations on any map with this gun as my close range option.
@@jakebradford5393 yeah it was borderline unfair as a secondary... I feel like not too many people in the game used it either.. But it was really awesome
B&T makes an adapter for the TP9/MP9/N suppressor that lets it adapt to any standard 3lug. This was done to allow it to be used on other B&T weapons like the GHM9, but lets it adapt to any standard 3lug. Also, they changed the end cap to reduce flash from the muzzle. The old TP9 suppressor had a flat end cap and more flash issues.
Also notable that the bullpup trigger (heavy trigger) was used because the MP9 was designed from the Steyr TMP first. The semi-auto TP9 was designed from the MP9 for the consumer market and they kept the trigger to keep the product as close to the MP9 as possible. The MP9 obviously uses a heavier bullpup trigger because it's select fire by default.
Its not about the size It’s about how you use it! Or…so I’ve heard. All jokes aside if the price was more manageable I’d be in line for one of these. It seems like a practical and versatile platform
Nah since it was developed by steyr who later sold the design to b&t its pretty much expected - the Aug is one of the absolute worst bullpup rifled for lefties as well
After learning about the "cheek pistol" technique that's emerged for pistols (but mainly that one keltec .22 pistol), it makes me wonder how this would perform without the stock. Maybe better than y'all think, and either way it'd be a super interesting demo.
Yikes. So that it's easier to murder more innocent people? School shooters would agree. Seriously, we don't need these weapons, and we definitely don't need full auto. What we DO NEED is to outlaw gun sales and transfers, outlaw AR/AK platform, reform mental health and begin socialized medicine (our military has it, civilians deserve it too), make gun ownership require licensing and insurance, and end qualified immunity for police. Watch the Jan 6th hearing. Stop voting for any GOP politician. Use your brain, go to school.
I just got my APC9-K with the binary trigger & I love it. I really think B&T missed the mark with the SPC9 I don’t like the extra length the buffer tube adds. I really am not a fan of the AR style charging handle on the back and the big handguard just isn’t attractive to me. I understand why they made those changes but it’s just not for me personally. APC9 ftw 🙌🏼
No, they hit the mark perfectly. It was made for law enforcement agencies to train on an ar15 platform. Specifically for those agencies that do not have the availability of a rifle-rated backstop at a shooting range, and of course lower cost training.
@@OnionRing420 I agree with your dislike of the firearm, but you can't say they "missed the mark," because it assumes that you don't know what it was designed for.
Congrats, on getting the binary. I have a geiselle ssp on the way for my apc9 k pro (g) right now as we speak. I’ll let you know how it goes. I love my apc9 now. However, I must admit I had to pour a lot of time and money in it to get it just right.
As a owner of this gun, I absolutely love it. But I don't think I can say I would trust my life to this. A century arms Mp5k is 1000% more reliable and cheaper than a tp9 stock
I've shot the APC9K when it replaced the MP5K for a security detail. I feel bad for the B&T because after having experienced the MP5, I don't think I could appreciate it as much. The B&T out of the box had broken sights, magazines broke, lots of malfunctions, and not to mention bolt bite trying to find a good spot for your hands. If you had no other option it might fit the bill, but so many other platforms outperform it on every level.
Apc9k pro is non reciprocating ch- no bolt bite.. they got rid of the cheap rail sights. Haven’t had 1 malfunction, super accurate, nice trigger, suppresses well.. I like it more than Sp5k and MPX.. SP5 full size has less recoil…. mags aren’t as good as the metal HK mags but the bumper pads help.. can get a Glock lower or Sig lower for metal mags if you want.
guns like this are the perfect example of what a 9 mm pdw/pcc is supposed to be. something that is small enough that it's worth the trade-off between cartridges. because if it was much bigger at all you might as well go with 300 blackout and the only time to choose 9 mm is when it's such a small package such as this. at least in my opinion
Of course, it's the 3-2! At least it was, back when guns had their real names and manufacturers... somewhere in 1999... aight that hurt, shame on you Valve or whoever's behind CS these days! Pure awesomeness. Couldn't avoid the extra chuckles along the ride after hearing what you're used to in the channel, at the beginning... thanks a lot for the mood lifter G-Daddy & crew!
Double check that? I’m only seeing adapters to convert the proprietary B&T suppressor over to tri-lug. So you could use the TP9 suppressor on whatever gun with a tri-lug, but you can’t use any given 9mm suppressor on the TP9.
Love that Lucas makes a video yrs ago and more compact version than this setup no one bats an eye, but flannel dad does it and everyone loses their minds
This is a great improvement on the Mac-11. Enjoyed the original Mac-10, used back in the day. The only thing with these, PDW’s is it’s made for up close and personal. “Free mean don’t ask for permission” well stated. Semper Fi. and Aloha.🌺🌸🌴❤️🇺🇸
i think a characteristic of PDWs is they should all be automatic. in which the trigger may not be the biggest deal. unfortunately, that key characteristic is mostly not achievable (to civilians), so PDWs lose a lot of potential of which they could fill a very niche yet drastic role.
I've only recently come across your videos due to the unfortunate circumstances facing our country, which has me researching self-defense options before they are taken away from us (which, although slim, remains a possibility), and after watching a fairly decent sample of your videos and becoming a fan and subscriber, I'd like to leave some feedback, after all, what good are compliments or criticisms if I keep them to myself? First and foremost, I want to say, "Thank you!" for all of the content and the plethora of incredibly useful information that you have been making and providing for us all. Your content is going to be helpful and relevant for generations to come. Excellent work! Additionally, I've noticed that the quality of your videos, especially with regard to the videography, has improved tremendously over the years. It all looks so professional now, it's really quite impressive! In fact, I'm curious as to what type of camera you shoot with, because I've always wanted to know how to achieve that look. Those were the compliments. The criticism, however, comes in due to your narration. I noticed that in your older videos from a few years back, that you sounded much better...like, much much better. Much more natural and realistic, like a friend telling me all about his cool new gun, which was a lot more relatable, inviting, and comfortable to listen to, but unfortunately, unlike the video quality, your narration has changed for the worse. And I noticed that this very same thing often happens to other popular and successful content creators, which is that they become so focused on constantly trying to improve every aspect of their content, including their narration, that they end up losing focus of the successful formula that they started with in the first place, and like you, they lose their genuine and authentic personality in the process. And unfortunately for us as your viewers/listeners, you've adopted this sort of informercial-like persona that is rather annoying to listen to and honestly really off-putting. I don't want to offend you; I'm just trying to be honest in the hopes that maybe you can make some changes for the better and get back to being that relatable person that you once were. Just to highlight the issue, if you just go back and watch your review of the MK18 CQBR from 2016 and compare it to this video, or any recent video, you can hear exactly what I mean. You, in 2016, I could listen to all day long, but you in 2022, not so much. Hopefully you can take this constructive criticism for what it's worth. Cheers.
The quality of the videos are still great. BUT I've noticed that sometimes you don't mix in too much shooting footage in the middle of the video like you used to do before. Idk why but could you bring that back?
You know some people say it’s actually an average sized PDW, maybe even a bit large
HAHA
Shots fired
Probably has a good personality too😞
It's not the size that matters it's how you train with it. Just saying....
That’s what she said!
That Is NOT a "small compact package" MIKE, thats PEFRECTLY AVERAGE!!!
REEEEEE
@@GarandThumb the salt must flow
@fk Blm do you ever get tired of spamming the same shit?
It's not the SIZE that matters it's how you USE it
This guy gets it
This intro was far cooler than any of us deserved.
Always!!
Idk, I think it could have been better if they sped the footage of him up and just dubbed over it with Michael Scott, Andy and Dwight screaming parkour. Especially on the shot of him shooting while staring through the camera into our souls. 😂
WORD! 🔥
💯💯
And how!
I used this at a local airsoft game once. The parents were big mad at the funerals.
Womp womp
Hi dad
Admin, you’re a rapscallion.
69 likes, no one touch it!
Big yikes
The drive bys at 0:48 had me rolling!
This intro was far better than we deserved!
run bys
Hey as a Swiss owner of a TP9-N including a suppressor I can give you the following tips: FIRST: shoot it suppressed with Fiocchi 158grs Subsonic ammo and it will be MP5SD quiet without the gas in the face. SECOND: Give the trigger (the hammer actually) a little dremel polishing job, after having rounded the edges slightly. The trigger will be 3 times better without sacrificing safety.
Chasch mol es Video mache vo dem? Wet mer drom ou eini poschte, aber Abzug esch leider ned so geil wie bi andere B&T Waffene.
Garand Thumb fanclub Alpenregion represent
Thank you for the tips, from New Zealand!
Schweizer sind einfach anders based
@@RonJeremyFan2142 Soooooo..., if you live in New zeland i supose you buyed your TP9 from The Black Market right? Kkkkkk.
+10 strafe speed ,+15 hipfire with this loadout.
get this guy 2 of these!!
AKIMBO flannel daddy 😆
😂😆😂
Hahaha
What video game is this a reference to?
The Milano in COD. This build is basically agency suppressor, bruiser grip, marathon stock, tiger team spotlight, and visontech 2x
It's the perfect size. The big ones hurt.
They make a plug for that.
@@DronesUnder2A 😂
rip in peace to all the fellas who were told that by that stiff sock
@@DronesUnder2A 😂😂🤣
Big ones aren't for the inexperienced
I love how this channel is exceptionally informative regarding the weapons and their quirks, but also that you preach training. Without training and being prepared you are not much use, and a danger and liability, to yourself and others, if you get into a life or death situation.
Train hard.
Train smart.
Used one of these while on a solo extraction in spain for the president back in '04. Saved my ass more than a handful of times, amazing gun.
@@user-yv7dt5je1l I forgot I posted this lmao, couldn't help it. Re4 filled half of my teenage years 🤣
President's daughter*
I can't believe how good the machining is on those products it's incredible
i approve of this product
So true.
My apc9
Is a work of art.
really, then why do they jam so much?
@@LIONTAMER3D cuz ur mom
They're almost entirely plastic though.
The full-auto version was $50 cheaper than the semi auto version. I tried to get my lgs to save me money by getting me the full-auto version. He said no.😅
Fucking price gouging. Capitalism, man!
@Solid Brick do you ever get tired of spamming the same lame ass shit?
@Aaron Loos
Yeah one has an auto sear the other doesn't. The price is not justified.
Ah the TMP. One of my favorite guns while running around Brazil, Virginia, Russia and the Middle East back in '09.
Not as good as dual Glock 18s but as a wise Sarge once said, *"Sometimes you just gotta go for style points."*
Miss those good ol days of cod
Mw2 gang
Ayo it was also a beast in MW3, literally a pocket assault rifle
NGL I never felt much use for the TMP, since you had the dual-G18 may may builds, the Raffica (for people who wanted a handheld M16), and the PP2000 for everything else.
By the time you unlock the TMP, you would’ve unlocked all the attachments for the other machine-pistols that make them much more viable.
Hard to believe MW2 is pushing 15 years old.
I love this gun. Portable. Reliable. Shootable. Suitable for glock pistol magazine. This is a huge benefit. And it’s cute. For our own safety. Thank you for sharing, Mike.
You do the best firearm reviews, bravo my friend! I’m excited to watch every new video you put out. Keep up the good work brother!
The iron sights being an after thought makes sense, when I used this thing in combat back in CS:GO and other fps games of my intense gunfighting career, I just hip fired it, no sights required
Used to run red dots silencer or balls out grab two of em and use extended mags just spray city
The most useless gun in hitman and rainbow 6 vegas
360 noscope ftw
you cant aim in csgo
@@ckmpro2 Wow, nothing gets past you.
Been one of my favorite PDW ever since seeing it in Resident Evil 4 as a kid. Awesome vid!!
*HUNK neck snaps intensifies*
Good review. FYI, there is a 3-lug adapter available for the suppressor. As you noted, there are plenty of smaller optic and light options to keep the platform more compact. The 15-round flush magazine also seems like a good option to keep the mag from sticking out as far while holstered/carrying. It looks like a great platform for the scenarios you shared while also being a unique and interesting firearm.
...except you can't get through 2 mags without a jam =/
@@LIONTAMER3D then clear the jam.
@@paleoph6168 or, conversely, aquire a weapon that doesn't jam; which do you think is a better solution?
@@LIONTAMER3D the one that works, and both do work so I'd do either.
@@paleoph6168 you're in a gun fight with Shiva & she's got an MP5 in each of her 6 hands, which solution sounds better now?
That intro though..👏
The slow-motion shots, while staring at the camera..
Wildly inaccurate, one-handed mag-dumps..
And ofcourse, the on-foot "drive-by's"
I love it
😭😭😭
What a freaking timing^^ I just looked at some TP9's here in Switzerland and now this review from you, I guess I really need to buy one 😅😅 BTW B&T is offering a conversion kit for the TP9 suppressor, so that you can mount it on 3-Lug muzzles afterwards.
it's truly awful; there isn't a unit in the world running these, which says a lot.
@@LIONTAMER3D I bought it last week, tested it today and it's not that bad to be honest. Quick double-taps are a bit difficult but I thought the trigger will be worse.
@@LIONTAMER3D sounds like a skill issue.
@@keyboardlosergod1173 if units aren't running them...but the manufacturer is making them...and they're not being sold to units...yet they're portrayed as a "military" weapon...yeah, sounds like a marketing issue. There's also a quality control issue, not sure if I covered this already, but this gun sucks.
@@LIONTAMER3D I didn’t ask for all that. Stop bitching in the comments
I once had a chance to experience this weapon in service with the Indian army. It was a unique and mean looking weapon. Super easy to handle.
I'm guessing you're a soldier?
@@AaAa-of1lp Nop. Know your army event
@@abhishek-vlog3550 ah ok cool
I get why the Swiss made it. Their cheese is comparable to the effects of a 2 second burst with this.
Uugghh Swiss cheese always turns me into “machine gun belly” but always seems to affect me once I get off work
@@drewgolias1941 Do you mean actual swiss cheese or the US cheese that americans call "swiss cheese"?
_The Swiss cheese maker_
It has a certain ring to it.
Original it was from Austria the gun
@khobtov, I’m not sure, I’m American, but my uncles family is straight from Italy, he claims it’s real Swiss and I know the American Swiss cheese is more bland than what he gets
This is as close as an everyday civilian gun owner can get to an H&K MP7, unfortunately with the price tag included.
Call me weird but if the trigger wasn’t ass I’d prefer this over the mp7
@Morbius 🅥 it's morbin time
with open borders, some mp7’s are bound to hit the b14ck market.
ya minus the full auto part...
Better than an MP7. Better machining quality.
Thanks to everyone evolved with Garand Thumb and the positive 2A club.
This video was pretty good but I really appreciate all of the ones that have been done in the past that are on guns and tests that I’m more concerned with.
Freezing test, and the mud tests have all been spectacular and very interesting.
Thanks again for for everything and keep up the good work.
My wife and I really like your and Brandon Harrias (the AK guy’s) style of doing these videos.
Video quality has gotten so good your intros may be the best part of your videos. Keep it up!
#1 CT eco round gun. Can hold long A or B doors with ease. 10/10
One of the all time coolest SMG/PDWs ever made in my mind
All that fun… remember when we could barely find 9mm ammo that wasn’t $25 a box… good times. Love seeing Mike defeat all that cardboard.
I can barely find ammo that's not $25 a box now!
Bro anything under $25 feels like I'm getting a decent deal these days lmao
@@TheOneWayDown wtf, stop shopping local they're ripping you off. Norma is almost always in stock and
@@chriscortez3334 where
@@TheOneWayDown I know right, found some for $19.99 and bought an extra box because I felt like i found a deal 😂
Dude you absolutely kill me with some of your videos? I love it. The TP9 is 1 of my all time favorites. I got to fire one in Afghanistan with Rotex can of some type that "a team member" had in his range gear set up at Tarnak not too far from KAF *******Not my team ...))someone who was on "a team. you just keep up the good work.
It's hard to imagine this being as good as my mp5k. The iorn sights on the mp5 are my favorite out of all PDW/SMG.
This gun is one of the coolest firearms I've ever seen
I hate it. It's a great gun, I just think it's ugly af. B&T is objectively one of the most Gucci manuf in the industry, so idk wtf they were thinking when they designed the aesthetics of the TP9. If you think this is kewl, go look at their APC series. No question as a PDW it's beast, it just fkn hideous. People have hated this thing for over a decade. There's entire forums dedicated to ugly the firearm is. Blown away at the swooning here. Lol, I've never encountered anyone that believed that TP9 was a kewl gun. This is crazy. If you ❤️ it get one. They're cheap and readily available.
@@tomjjackson21 didnt they buy the design from Steyr?
As someone who is from Switzerland, thank you for reviewing this gun.
can say the same thing as Austrian
I like "blank-staring at the screen while unloading mag" Garand... and I REALLY like "Strafing left, then rapidly strafing right" Garand.
The left and right really made the video 10x better
The back and forth, one handed, spray and pray is what for me... from the beginning shooting clips. 🤣👀👌
Sometimes I have to just hit play on a Grand Thumb video, lean my chair back and close my eyes as Mikes soothing voice hugs me like a fluffy cloud and I at peace with my self and at peace with the universe 😶🌫️🥰
This man out there sprint-hipfiring. Can't wait to see you next patch when they nerf mobility.
EFT: _INERTIA SYSTEM_
As someone who has been forcing right handed guns to bend to my will for years. Your talk of this being bad for lefties makes me want one to figure out how to deal with it 👍
I shoot mine left handed.. it’s not that bad. I use a unity mount to move the light to the other side. The switch pad I have stuck to my forward grip. The gas can get gassy tho
@@ericcaton308 that's good. I have an SBR CMR 30 that is the worst of mine for gas on a can. I don't know why but gasses have never messed with me enough to pay attention to them
@@zbreeden7622 I also have a cmr30 and run an oss (not sure why it corrected to osprey) on it… I can’t get it to cycle right though. Gotta play around with different grain ammo
Could make a brass deflector and figure out a way to clamp it to the pic rail on top.
@@ericcaton308 mine with an srd556-qd runs great in a 10 inch barrel. I normally just use cc1 maximag 40gr. It's far from a combat gun but I've had maybe three hang-ups ever.
Its not the size that matters, it's the refraction time in between rounds 🤔
Comment win
Your cyclic rate, as it were.
And there’s also the speed of the reciprocating parts and the mass of the reciprocating parts that are smacking the insides of the firearm.
Best 2ndary weapon ever in COD.. Modern Warfare 3 was so fun with this gun and extended mags!
It was the one secondary gun that I felt just as comfortable using as a primary... Many enemies slain with this^
A great SMG in real life as well, Swiss/Austrians make great stuff always
That thing ripped in MW3. It was absolutely OP as a secondary. I would pair it with the MSR and go to town. I could easily move to different sniping locations on any map with this gun as my close range option.
@@jakebradford5393 yeah it was borderline unfair as a secondary... I feel like not too many people in the game used it either.. But it was really awesome
The Steyr TMP is my favorite SMG in CS ever since the inception of the game.
This gun looks so similar to the Halo ODST SMG, love it
B&T makes an adapter for the TP9/MP9/N suppressor that lets it adapt to any standard 3lug. This was done to allow it to be used on other B&T weapons like the GHM9, but lets it adapt to any standard 3lug. Also, they changed the end cap to reduce flash from the muzzle. The old TP9 suppressor had a flat end cap and more flash issues.
Also notable that the bullpup trigger (heavy trigger) was used because the MP9 was designed from the Steyr TMP first. The semi-auto TP9 was designed from the MP9 for the consumer market and they kept the trigger to keep the product as close to the MP9 as possible. The MP9 obviously uses a heavier bullpup trigger because it's select fire by default.
GT: it's select fire.
ATF: * would like to know your location *
Thank you for making a video of this Swiss submachine guns . Can we please have another video with more indepth detail videos of this weapon
One of my favorite submachine guns was finally featured on Garand Thumb. Yay :)
Reminds me of the SMG that the ODST troopers carried in Halo. Even sounds like it.
I was thinking the same thing
"Now's the time it pays to be the strong, silent type."
hello Phil how are you doing 😊
the freaking running spray going from both sides made me laugh so hard you're a gem flannel daddy
RMR on a riser mount is perfect in my opinion, keeps the gun compact.
No way man! Slam a 1×10 LPVO on that bad boy and rock and roll! Now THAT'S compact! 🤘
@@lincolnpascual nah 1×10 lpvo with i offset red dot then it would be perfect 😂
@@lincolnpascual nah fuck that get a thermal 4x12
@@lobo-uh2tb THIS all Day. My setup anyways
Nah. Zero reason to run an open emitter optic on this thing.
I really wanted one of these for a long time, but as a lefty I am glad I watched this first.
Garand Thumb doesn’t even realize this, but he makes everyone’s day better.
I hoped oneday you would cover this beast of a weapon! Once again you delivered. Thanks Mike 👍
I love all the B&T firearms, they are pretty expensive but absolutely great. Loved this video, TP9 is really a good small-smg ;)
Absolutely fantastic content you are putting out. Keep at it brother.
Just bought mine, can and everything. Just need to do my form 1 once I get it. Sucks we live in a place where I can't have the real deal.
@2:27 I like the way you slap it
Its not about the size It’s about how you use it! Or…so I’ve heard.
All jokes aside if the price was more manageable I’d be in line for one of these. It seems like a practical and versatile platform
The parts where you ran past the camera at full speed hip firing is literally me in every video game
"It truly is a right handed man's world when it comes to the TP9."
Based as fuck B&T dunking on the poors and the wrong handed as God intended.
Nah since it was developed by steyr who later sold the design to b&t its pretty much expected - the Aug is one of the absolute worst bullpup rifled for lefties as well
"Dry fire works" I agree. It totally makes you better.
i love how when the gun kicked spectacularly being fired one-handed, he immediately pulls out the stock
...but 9mm is too powerful!
It'll blow your lungs right out
@@LosRiji Yeah I heard some senile old man say something like that once. I think he also recommended recklessly discharging firearms into the air.
@@LosRiji I’m still searching for that round Crazy Joe recommended. I’ll pay anything for em!
same dementia puppet who left 300,000 in Afghan? 😂
Says the Davion guy...you folks have an obsession with autocannons! Lasers not good enough for ya?
After learning about the "cheek pistol" technique that's emerged for pistols (but mainly that one keltec .22 pistol), it makes me wonder how this would perform without the stock. Maybe better than y'all think, and either way it'd be a super interesting demo.
Cheek pistol technique? Tell me more
The Swiss Alps all summed up perfectly and suppressed
the running sideways in the intro was gold
While watching these videos, I feel like my eyes needs better fps to see how nice the video looks
I’m pretty sure this proves why we all need full auto.
Yikes. So that it's easier to murder more innocent people? School shooters would agree.
Seriously, we don't need these weapons, and we definitely don't need full auto. What we DO NEED is to outlaw gun sales and transfers, outlaw AR/AK platform, reform mental health and begin socialized medicine (our military has it, civilians deserve it too), make gun ownership require licensing and insurance, and end qualified immunity for police.
Watch the Jan 6th hearing. Stop voting for any GOP politician. Use your brain, go to school.
Beto O'Rourke: "I'm gonna confiscate all assault weapons from Americans!"
[Beto watches a Garand Thumb video]
Beto: "Well on second thought..."
lol exactly
"Beta O'Rourke" -- There. Fixed it for ya! You're welcome!
😁👍
@@M--GT8223 lol
I just got my APC9-K with the binary trigger & I love it. I really think B&T missed the mark with the SPC9 I don’t like the extra length the buffer tube adds. I really am not a fan of the AR style charging handle on the back and the big handguard just isn’t attractive to me. I understand why they made those changes but it’s just not for me personally. APC9 ftw 🙌🏼
No, they hit the mark perfectly. It was made for law enforcement agencies to train on an ar15 platform. Specifically for those agencies that do not have the availability of a rifle-rated backstop at a shooting range, and of course lower cost training.
@@StewieStew820 I know all of that. As I said in my comment. I also stated it just not for me personally. Lol
@@OnionRing420 I agree with your dislike of the firearm, but you can't say they "missed the mark," because it assumes that you don't know what it was designed for.
Congrats, on getting the binary.
I have a geiselle ssp on the way for my apc9 k pro (g)
right now as we speak.
I’ll let you know how it goes.
I love my apc9 now.
However, I must admit I had to pour a lot of time and money in it to get it just right.
GMH9 gang
I rewound that “run by” a few times. A top 5 intro.
"It is truly is a right-hand man's world when it comes to the TP9"! Do I hear the teardrops of Gun Jesus hitting the ground upon these words?
I'd really love to have an MP7 for home defence. But this might be the next best thing :)
As a owner of this gun, I absolutely love it. But I don't think I can say I would trust my life to this. A century arms Mp5k is 1000% more reliable and cheaper than a tp9 stock
@@chadd7881 ok, good to know ty.
@@chadd7881 why do you say that ? I don’t know much of anything about this gun but curious why you say that, not hating or anything genuinely curious
I've shot the APC9K when it replaced the MP5K for a security detail. I feel bad for the B&T because after having experienced the MP5, I don't think I could appreciate it as much. The B&T out of the box had broken sights, magazines broke, lots of malfunctions, and not to mention bolt bite trying to find a good spot for your hands. If you had no other option it might fit the bill, but so many other platforms outperform it on every level.
Apc9k pro is non reciprocating ch- no bolt bite.. they got rid of the cheap rail sights. Haven’t had 1 malfunction, super accurate, nice trigger, suppresses well.. I like it more than Sp5k and MPX.. SP5 full size has less recoil…. mags aren’t as good as the metal HK mags but the bumper pads help.. can get a Glock lower or Sig lower for metal mags if you want.
guns like this are the perfect example of what a 9 mm pdw/pcc is supposed to be. something that is small enough that it's worth the trade-off between cartridges. because if it was much bigger at all you might as well go with 300 blackout and the only time to choose 9 mm is when it's such a small package such as this. at least in my opinion
Of course, it's the 3-2! At least it was, back when guns had their real names and manufacturers... somewhere in 1999... aight that hurt, shame on you Valve or whoever's behind CS these days!
Pure awesomeness. Couldn't avoid the extra chuckles along the ride after hearing what you're used to in the channel, at the beginning... thanks a lot for the mood lifter G-Daddy & crew!
Coming in hot in the first 55 seconds using a full-auto suppressed PDW how it's supposed to be used. Absolute unit.
That needs a t1/t2 micro on it.
I hope this gun makes a return in the Resident Evil 4 Remake
I hope so too.
Thankfully, B&T makes an adaptor for the TP9 suppressor so it can be run with traditional fixed barrels/9mm thread patterns.
Double check that? I’m only seeing adapters to convert the proprietary B&T suppressor over to tri-lug. So you could use the TP9 suppressor on whatever gun with a tri-lug, but you can’t use any given 9mm suppressor on the TP9.
@@qpeghnl97x correct
@@qpeghnl97x Re-read my comment lol.
@@Hamtaro_Ramtaro Now that you’ve edited it to fix the error, you’re good to go, thanks
Styer made the TMP I actually did not expect that you really do learn something new every day.
Love that Lucas makes a video yrs ago and more compact version than this setup no one bats an eye, but flannel dad does it and everyone loses their minds
This and the MP7 seriously remind me of the halo SMG
So does any pistol in a CAA's earlier Roni G2 kits..not so much with the newer micro versions, but the G2 certainly has that Halo feel about it.
Resident Evil 4 mercenaries with Hunk vibes
I was disappointed that GT didn't cosplay as Agent Hunk.
@@MoonBeamLaser me too. As a fan I demand GT cosplays Hunk
I'd be willing to spend $2000 for one if it was full auto.
These things are stupid expensive.
"free men don't ask for permission". If I weren't already subscribed, I would've instantly just because of that. Never change.
This is a great improvement on the Mac-11. Enjoyed the original Mac-10, used back in the day. The only thing with these, PDW’s is it’s made for up close and personal. “Free mean don’t ask for permission” well stated. Semper Fi. and Aloha.🌺🌸🌴❤️🇺🇸
Ah yes, MW2 vibes.
Byfar my favorite machine pistol while everyone else was running akimbo Glocks lol
i think a characteristic of PDWs is they should all be automatic. in which the trigger may not be the biggest deal. unfortunately, that key characteristic is mostly not achievable (to civilians), so PDWs lose a lot of potential of which they could fill a very niche yet drastic role.
So that’s how they make Swiss 🧀 cheese!!
Lmao @ 0:48 you running back & forth took me out, I did not expect that 😂
Seeing you having a ton of fun firing that TMP makes me happy too GT.
I've only recently come across your videos due to the unfortunate circumstances facing our country, which has me researching self-defense options before they are taken away from us (which, although slim, remains a possibility), and after watching a fairly decent sample of your videos and becoming a fan and subscriber, I'd like to leave some feedback, after all, what good are compliments or criticisms if I keep them to myself?
First and foremost, I want to say, "Thank you!" for all of the content and the plethora of incredibly useful information that you have been making and providing for us all. Your content is going to be helpful and relevant for generations to come. Excellent work! Additionally, I've noticed that the quality of your videos, especially with regard to the videography, has improved tremendously over the years. It all looks so professional now, it's really quite impressive! In fact, I'm curious as to what type of camera you shoot with, because I've always wanted to know how to achieve that look.
Those were the compliments. The criticism, however, comes in due to your narration. I noticed that in your older videos from a few years back, that you sounded much better...like, much much better. Much more natural and realistic, like a friend telling me all about his cool new gun, which was a lot more relatable, inviting, and comfortable to listen to, but unfortunately, unlike the video quality, your narration has changed for the worse. And I noticed that this very same thing often happens to other popular and successful content creators, which is that they become so focused on constantly trying to improve every aspect of their content, including their narration, that they end up losing focus of the successful formula that they started with in the first place, and like you, they lose their genuine and authentic personality in the process. And unfortunately for us as your viewers/listeners, you've adopted this sort of informercial-like persona that is rather annoying to listen to and honestly really off-putting.
I don't want to offend you; I'm just trying to be honest in the hopes that maybe you can make some changes for the better and get back to being that relatable person that you once were. Just to highlight the issue, if you just go back and watch your review of the MK18 CQBR from 2016 and compare it to this video, or any recent video, you can hear exactly what I mean. You, in 2016, I could listen to all day long, but you in 2022, not so much.
Hopefully you can take this constructive criticism for what it's worth. Cheers.
Steyr B&T TP9 actually stands for Super Tiny pEepY Rubs Blue jeans That are Too Puny 9 times a day
The quality of the videos are still great. BUT I've noticed that sometimes you don't mix in too much shooting footage in the middle of the video like you used to do before. Idk why but could you bring that back?
It feels like it’s been a while since we’ve had a classic standing review.
We got spoiled with all the outdoor antics
"I am left handed but I shoot right." Ayyyyyyeeeeee Mike is part of the club!
"The Swiss give us a super tiny PDW, and then we make it the size of a battle rifle by sticking a load of shit on it"
Who else is watching this on the toilet?
Perfectly average sized PDW, with a great personality
Above average even
Gorgeous! Simply gorgeous. What else to say? You are the lucky bastard who gets to shoot this beauty and we poor sods get to see you. I am jealous.
This is the best intro yet, props