A new way of thinking about this image, which has been historically (and incorrectly) correlated with PROLACTINOMA, especially when a pt presents with these symptoms.
what about the prolactin gnrh relation ? just solved a question on amboss with the exact same presentation and prolactin was the ans, just need clarification on this because prolactin can indeed cause osteoporosis, plus whats up with the vision problems? thanks.
There is also a huge weight gain here due to excess cortisol, this can't be explained by prolactin effect, the visual finding is bitemporal hemianopsia due to compression of the optic chiasm by the tumor mass
wow its a clever one mike? association of prolactinoma with osteoporosis in premenopausal women is tested everywhere. so students can get easily tripped. 👍 brilliant one.
Never seen prolactinoma causing osteoporosis on NBME material. There's a question specifically on the Step 1 NBME where prolactinoma is wrong answer in this case.
Yes, but there’s no further supporting symptoms for a possible suppression of sex hormones. Both LH and FSH would be suppressed with a prolactinoma where in a male we would see impotence from low testosterone and/or galactorrhea from high prolactin levels. In a woman we would see amenorrhea from an imbalance of estrogen/progesterone, galactorrhea from high prolactin, and sure, maybe a compression fracture from the low estrogen specifically. This vignette talks about 1. a male with no galactorrhea or impotence 2. He presents with weight gain (supports excess steroids), a compression fracture indicative of osteoporosis and osteoporosis is an adverse effect of prolonged steroid use 3. Compression of optic chiasm causing bitemporal hemianopsia which can also support Cushing’s Disease (ACTH pituitary tumor)
hyperthyroidism can cause osteoporosis and the patient will present with the same presentation , why the question didn't contain any thing to differentiate between hyperthyroidism and caushing syndrome as a cause of osteoporosis??!
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Fabulous question! Amazing Clarification, Mike!!!!
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Thanks so much.I blindly thought it was prolactinoma.
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A new way of thinking about this image, which has been historically (and incorrectly) correlated with PROLACTINOMA, especially when a pt presents with these symptoms.
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what about the prolactin gnrh relation ? just solved a question on amboss with the exact same presentation and prolactin was the ans, just need clarification on this because prolactin can indeed cause osteoporosis, plus whats up with the vision problems? thanks.
share the question stem and options to see how is it that differ
There is also a huge weight gain here due to excess cortisol, this can't be explained by prolactin effect, the visual finding is bitemporal hemianopsia due to compression of the optic chiasm by the tumor mass
Thanks Mike
I have a Q. What's with the "diminished lateral vision bilaterally"?
Bitemporal hemianopsia due to compression of the optic chiasm
wow its a clever one mike? association of prolactinoma with osteoporosis in premenopausal women is tested everywhere. so students can get easily tripped. 👍 brilliant one.
Never seen prolactinoma causing osteoporosis on NBME material. There's a question specifically on the Step 1 NBME where prolactinoma is wrong answer in this case.
Hiii,can't prolactin suppress gnrh which will eventually cause low estrogen leading to osteoporosis?
I also have the same question.
Yes, but there’s no further supporting symptoms for a possible suppression of sex hormones. Both LH and FSH would be suppressed with a prolactinoma where in a male we would see impotence from low testosterone and/or galactorrhea from high prolactin levels. In a woman we would see amenorrhea from an imbalance of estrogen/progesterone, galactorrhea from high prolactin, and sure, maybe a compression fracture from the low estrogen specifically. This vignette talks about 1. a male with no galactorrhea or impotence 2. He presents with weight gain (supports excess steroids), a compression fracture indicative of osteoporosis and osteoporosis is an adverse effect of prolonged steroid use 3. Compression of optic chiasm causing bitemporal hemianopsia which can also support Cushing’s Disease (ACTH pituitary tumor)
Doctor, could you make a topic in neuroscience sensory and reflex exam
hyperthyroidism can cause osteoporosis and the patient will present with the same presentation , why the question didn't contain any thing to differentiate between hyperthyroidism and caushing syndrome as a cause of osteoporosis??!
ACTH secretion leading to Cushing way more likely to cause osteoporosis. And it's on the NBME. Not my opinion, take it up with NBME.
And I also gave weight gain in the vignette btw. That reflects Cushing. You'd have weight loss if anything in hyperthyroidism.
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