Agreed. Also it's worth mentioning that Rohit won the t20 world cup in 2007 as a teenager, so he has Two T20 World Cups. He Scored a crucial 30 in the final and also got a 50 in a must win game against South Africa in 2007
@jonathanfrancis7608 I am not questioning rohits legacy. I am just saying that IPL is not equal to ICC tournaments. And yes rohit does have a good legacy in ICC tournaments being a batter and now winning a tournament as well. Its just the host was constantly saying that IPL is worth more than ICC tournaments.
@@shyyou93 Lol no one watches the test , people don't have time to sit and watch the whole 5 days. Odi wc is the most prestigious and t-20 wc is the global world cup ? ?
except it isn't, other nations don't even take t20 wc seriously. WI players who play IPL don't even care if they come with their best team no team is winning against them
@@sadman-hd5rx Except that it is. If other nations and their players don't think the T20 WC is important, that's their problem. It still doesn't mean IPL is bigger than the T20 WC. One's an ICC tournament featuring international teams. The other is just a cash grab tournament featuring domestic players and a few international players playing together.
IPL is about money, none of the players care who wins and nobody watching with a brain cares either. Internationals are infinitely superior, especially SENA.
1)Rohit will be like top 10 batsman in odi of all time and in odi worldcup like all time best. 2)Rohits double centuries alone will make him relevant for the remaining 21st century timeline. 3)He won five ipl titles as captain. Been part of one t20 worlcup win and captained other. 4)Almost won one odi worldcup under his captaincy when he was the best batsman in that team. 5)Got most sixes in international cricket and that record is gonna stay there for long. 6)Sheer amount of odi runs he made will always be shown when we talk about records for decades to come. 7)The next gen indian cricketers love him so he will be mentioned every now and then by them. This point shows how good of a senior he has been to them.
5 IPL titles is a rubbish claim. What did he do in those titles? We can see what sort of a captain he is, not very bright up there. He almost lost an absolutely set world cup against SA by giving the 15th over to Axar Patel when it was very well known that Klaasen would smash him to bits which he did. Jadeja would have been a better option and Hardik only bowled 3 overs in that final. And in the first innings, Hardik didn't come on to bat ahead of Shivam Dube. Hardik had scored a 27 ball 50 in that stadium a week or so ago. What sort of captaincy is that? He's not even in the top 10 Indian ODI batters of all time.
@@prithviroy11People don't care for the stats, people only remember how you made them feel, double centuries against puny opponents doesn't count, going after the big fish the bigger prize winning the important things matter most.
Rohit played a major role in the 2007 T20 wc final, he lead from the front for the T20 wc 2024, had ridiculously good ODI WCs with the bat in 2019 and 23. He is arguably the 2nd greatest ODI opener. The record of 264 and 3 200s would be tough to break. He has the most sixes in int'l cricket. Not to mention he is the most successful IPL player ever. His test career would be one of the biggest what ifs in cricket history. Should have been made to open earlier
He failed miserably in 2014, 2016 and 2022 T20 World Cups. Kohli played like a one man army in those. If Rohit and others had given him support then we could have won those tournaments.
1. ODI WC >> T20 WC >> IPL 2. Rohit’s been a great white ball batter and a decent red ball batter. He captained India to a T20 WC win, an ODI WC final (with tremendous opening batting) and a WTC final(not even counting the 4x IPL wins). That is a tremendous legacy regardless of any recent or future form!
Rohit's legacy is a mixed bag. He will be remembered as a great player/leader but will not be remembered at the level of the all-time greats like Kapil, Sachin, Ganguly, Dravid, Mahi, Virat, etc.
The only problem with Rohit has been his inconsistency. When he is in form he plays like no one else could play. You may love him or hate him but he indeed is a great of the game.
from India's pov ofcourse IPL has money, but we all keep any International trophy above it. forget about ICC trophies, BGT is bigger than IPL for us in terms of respect and skill. we simply don't compare international stuff to IPL. This is now
Nohit and Nohli both made the mistake of sticking around for too long...they're well past their prime for about 3 years now. Their legacy will reflect this. India has many talented young players but the superstar culture means it's team performs below par most of the time.
Rohit legacy is today generation lot of kids in india not see india winning any icc tournament and world cup and that rohit inspire in young kid inspiration to next generation world cup winning important
It was in 2007, and he was a fringe member of the squad who didn't even bat in a few games. He wasn't selected in the 2011 WC because he wasn't good enough. Virat is younger than him and he still got selected because Virat had been scoring important runs when the team needed him to. And this selfless/selfish narrative that Rohit has started was the opposite before 2023. Rohit still has a lower ODI overall SR than Virat. So he was the one who used to take his time to get his runs, and in those 200s he scored, he was assisted by some ordinary fielding and some very poor umpiring (this has been his ally even in those IPL wins)
@@prithviroy11 well he got 30(16)* in the 2007 wc final so not exactly a fringe player. and your point about him starting slow js proves he cares more for the team than anyone else if hes willing to change his whole game even though he alr had stats that put him in the top 10 to ever play. and you can't be an all time great and win the most ipl titles as a captain purely because of umpiring and fiedling can u, otherwise why do so many other players not have the same stats and records??
@YashThaker-q3r that 30(16) gave him enough credit to honk through 6-7 other T20 WCs. 2014, 2016, 2022 he played run a ball and scored roughly around 80-100 runs. We could have won those World Cups had there been a better player at the top. He is definitely not in the top 10 to ever play the game lmao. Even Sehwag is a better overall batsman. And again, IPL trophies aren't his to claim. I don't think he ever crossed 550 runs in a season with his main skill. His captaincy is terrible, we can see that very clearly now. Until this point his poor captaincy has been either not called out because of his elegant stroke play or because people are just so blinded by his PR agency that the attention shifts on other players. 2022 WC semi final is a prime example. Virat stitched a partnership with Hardik who also started relatively slow and then went on to score 68(38) or smth, Virat got out just after he had started to accelerate and he got 50(40). Rohit? He scored less than run a ball, he couldn't hit the middle of the bat for his 27 off 28. But everyone was talking about how Virat Kohli is a selfish player who only plays for his 50s and 100s. And then Rohit comes out and blames the loss entirely on the bowlers, no accountability, no responsibility for his calls, his batting failure. This is not a true leader. In the next world cup he again hints that Virat is the problem because he plays for himself. Bhosdike teri century nahi hai utni jitni uski winning cause me hai India ke liye. This guy wants all the sympathy and plays to the masses outside of the field more than he does on-field like many of the greats. And his wife, who doesn't know to keep her nose out of it. How many unnecessary comments has she made on social media on various posts, videos on social media? At this point, if people deny that he doesn't do paid tweets and posts, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.
@YashThaker-q3rrohit was not selected for odi nd test initially becoz he was not a deserved batsman in those format he played well only after he played as an opener becoz basically he was a spinner...
In many ways Rohit reminds of Ganguly. Both have lazy elegance in their batting, both had a start stop beginning to their international careers and both good captains. Ganguly had a good working relation with John Wright and took the team to the WC final in 2003. Rohit had a good relation with Dravid, reached WTC & ODI finals in 23 and won T20 final in 24. Ganguly got Greg Chappell after Wright and things went down quickly for him. Lost his form and Captaincy. Team was all over the place until Chappell was sacked after 2007 WC. Rohit has now got Gambhir and he has lost his form, didn't captain the team in the last test, from being no 1 in test the team has gone completely south and we are hearing about dressing room issues. Just hope they play well in England ODIs and Champions trophy otherwise things will unravel faster than the Chappell era.
T20 World cup is bigger than that and Rohit's legacy is that he brought back the belief in India that it can win the ICC trophies when we had lost that belief ....
World Cup being bigger than IPL or any such League is the truth and that's how it should be forever. And for the goodness of the game, it should remain the highest forever.
Rohit Sharma will be considered all time legend in 50 Over format and t20 purely based on his numbers overall and his impact in world cups and the word cups he has won. Its best not to associate him with test matches though.
@@ashishprabhakar2201 yes he won the T20 world cup twice but that's doesn't mean he is a great T20 batsman MSD also won a T20 World Cup but msd is not a great international T20 batsman
Starting from 1975, one can say all the world cup winners and will remember the finals match... Most can't remember the last 3-4 IPL finals... Even Indians don't remember or care for IPL from June to March.
IPL is nowhere *any* world cup. There's just not that kind of attachment to the teams. It may change in 10-20 years but today's viewers value the real international competition of bi/multilateral tournaments way more. Cricket doesn't need to move towards football as some north star where arbitrary club allegiance dominates and international teams are looked at only periodically.
Rohit Sharma Great in Limited Overs Cricket but underperformed in Test Cricket. He doesn't even have 5000 Test Runs and has same number of Test Hundreds as Anil Kumble and Ajith Agarkar in SENA.
I feel quite apathetic to both the T20 WC and the IPL, but that's just because I regard T20 as third run / third tier cricket. Tests and ODIs are clearly more skilful and suspenseful formats. T20 is still nothing more than a sugar hit. I would probably watch the T20 WC over the IPL, but I wouldn't miss either.
Rohit greatest odi world cup batsman that legacy he has and some people says that rohit not great as others 😂🤡 . Yes rohit he not that great that others but rohit is greatest then others
He will go down as one of the greatest players of all time as by the time he retires, he would have scored around 22,000-24,000 runs with 55-60 centuries including all those double centuries in ODI cricket and as a captain he has won the T20 World Cup, 2 Asia Cups and 5 IPLs which takes his legacy even further. His records in the ODI Cricket World Cup are amazing. He has scored 1575 runs in the World Cup at an unbelievable average of 60.57 🥶 In ODI cricket, he has scored 1328 runs in Australia at an average of 53.12 and 1428 runs in England with a great average of 64.90 🥵 In ODI cricket against the strongest opposition team like Australia, he has scored 2379 runs at an average of 58.02 💀 He is the greatest of all time in ODI cricket.
Highest scorer in world cup winning and along with captain >>>>>>>>>>>>> any record in cricket Sachin once said - winning world cup is my biggest achievement in cricket not 100 century and all these record
He wasn't the highest scorer in the world cup. It was Rahmanullah Gurbaz. He was India's highest scorer. And I thought we weren't supposed to look at personal milestones.
@@prithviroy11 Look at both strike rate gubaz with 124 and Rohit with 156 and even Rohit strike rate was 125 in odi wc better than gurbaz strike rate 😂
@@RajeshSharma-fc8mkjust check the avg nd sr of head in that t20 wc he has better stats than rohit in that wc he has scored only 2 runs oess than rohit by playing 1 match less than rohit
I'm a big fan of Rohit Sharma, but I always felt his achievements in MI-IPL should be taken with a pinch of salt. I felt a lot of what Rohit did in IPl, had to be attributed to the MI franchise. The brains of MI - identifying young potential talent like Bumrah, Hardik ; building a strong core team - think of Pollard, Hardik and inform Krunal in the middle order, always having a proper pace attack, while other teams like RCB, CSK were struggling to get 1 decent world class pacer- All of this was MI's doing. Of course, Rohit did his part on the field as a captain, but the question is - Would Rohit have achieved the same with a RCB team or a less structured team than MI? He was still a great and obvious pick for captaining India white ball team, but Rohit was never a proper out & our test player. Rohit as a captain in Test was kind of pushed to make it happen.
@KiranMane123becoz ponting was not a great t20i captain nd mi was not strong before 2013 still mi reached finals in 2010 nd won champion league before 2013
If stat obsessed mindset keeps my team undefeated in home tests and wins my team The border gavaskar trophy every time I would gladly take the stat obsessed mindset!!!!
@yashvardhansinghthakur6387 Bro I was talking about white ball team. Rohit's approach is limited to white ball cricket. He didn't do that in tests except in that one game against Bangladesh which they had to win in 2 days. Coming to home series loss, Indian batters were losing their spin game in last few years and it reached peak in that series. And the failure of Ashwin & Jadeja came out of nowhere. And you can't take 20 wickets in BGT with one bowler.
@@keerthan45 hating?? Bro i never believe hero worshipping culture cricket is a simple game if you age 36 or 37 and can't perform just announce retirement allow and someone else to do the job consistently Virat Kohli already passed his prime but still he wants to drag his career
Rohit is an all time great in ODI He was a terrific T20 player But was a mediocre test player failed to live up to his potential. He is not in the league of Gavaskar, Kapil, Sachin, Dravid, Kumble,Ashwin, Kholi
Virat is not an all Time great in test cricket. He doesn't average over 50 in any country besides india and his overall average is of a very good batsman, an all Time great needs to average 50++, plus only 40% of his 100´s have come in Indian wins, and none of them came in an Indian win when the team was in trouble. He never was able to win India a game after india was 50-3 or less. SUPer over rated in test cricke
Actually no one in India is interested in winning, their pockets are full. India "SPORTS FAN" is dumb, they will rather hero worship then actually see their team win. Gone are Dravid, Tendulkar, Zaheer even Dhoni. Simple example is, please go at look at the celebration that these people had when they scored a TON and took wicket, they believed that it is their job to score runs, present cricketers more interested in no "filmi" celebration then actually winning.
So you think Australians don't celebrate their wickets and their centuries? How do you win games? By scoring more than the opponent and by taking wickets faster than they can score off of your bowling. Ajeeb chutiye log hai yaar sahi me. Personal milestones are part of this team sport. Football me goal maar ke celebrate nahi karte kya? Dimag bech diya hai Rohit ka PR aur uska narrative sunn ke.
Dhoni & Kapil Dev were the greatest captain of India. Ganguly, Kohli and Azhar are good captains. Rohit stands nowhere near any of the above. His career and captaincy prolonged only because of Mumbai Indians titles
Under Rohit, India reached final in 50 over world cup and then won T20 world cup. Statistics says he is more successful captain than Kohli or Ganguly in white ball. Your bias is duly noted though.
Ganguly became captain after a match-fixing scandal and led the team to victory in the 2002 ICC Champions Trophy. He changed the indian cricket when we are in deep mess...he may have not won wc but he laid the pillers for the indian cricket team....most of the 2011 wc winning team players like Yuvraj Singh, Zaheer Khan, Harbhajan Singh, Virender Sehwag, and MS Dhoni debuted under him....dhoni may be successful captain but dada is the best after kapil....
Three foreign sitting in room of AC and talk about legacy of rohit is not that great 😂🤡 Rohit sharma world cup winning captain and highest scorer in world cup is enough to tell people his legacy in india. These people not know how many people inspire in india after winning t20wc because there are foreign
But surely winning the t20 World Cup can’t be that big a legacy Chris Jordan and Alex hales have t20 World Cup medals This would put butler and rohit on the same level and rohit is surely the better cricketer, he has other legacy too
Football, Hockey, Basketball, Rugby and Baseball have one world cup. The biennial T20 WC has never been considered a "world cup", the ODI WC is a real world cup.
Rohit's legacy will be the same as Ganguly. And that I mean as a batsman, not as captain. Both opened in ODIs. Made loads of runs. Both have been average in tests. As a batsman he surely has won India some matches. His 183 in the match at Taunton will be remembered for a long time. But he isn't considered a great batsman. There were Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman and Sehwag in the same team. And if we factor in captaincy Ganguly also has one ICC tournament to his name - 2002 ICC Champions Trophy (though joint championship with SL).
The guy in the middle is correct. There are too many world cups in cricket. It is a joke. No other major team sport (Soccer, Rugby etc) has a World Cup every 18 months.
IPL can never be bigger than any icc trophy, most Indians would agree, Plus T20 world cup is pretty big, obviously the odi cup is the biggest, But t20 is very much the second biggest trophy of cricket economy
Interesting conversation really . Liked this . But I want Rohit and Kohli treated separately as Dravid or Sachin . They didn’t have the same path , they should be allowed to perform/end on their own. I feel they have a lot to offer this year for the game with their batting. It will be a wonderful Indian cricket year 🎉
I can guarantee no Indian fan thinks the IPL is bigger than any icc tournament barring the champions trophy, only 4 teams in the ipl have real fans let’s be honest here
Virat is a complete player, particularly when it comes to Test cricket. Rohit, on the other hand, stands out as India’s finest white-ball batsman. As the victorious captain of the T20 World Cup 2024 and having led the team brilliantly in the ODI World Cup 2023, he will be remembered as a World Cup-winning captain-regardless of whether it’s a T20 World Cup or otherwise.
All ICC tournaments > IPL or any other domestic league - thats true for fans and players. And any discussions about IPL being above ICC tournaments is silly. IPL has been around for 15 years already - has it taken over the world cups in prestige? not a chance - didn't even close the gap. Even in footie where leagues happen all year around and the rivalries are much much more tribal - WCs and Euros are way bigger than any domestic league. IPL is 2 ish month affairs where players get swapped around anyways so you cannot expect that to ever rival Aus vs England or Pak vs Ind etc prestige let alone winning an ICC trophy. Anyone still in doubt can ask all members of 2023 indian team whether they would give up all their IPL medals to win that game on 19/11/23
It's not a "fantastic legacy" but he was a decent limited overs bat and helped india win a t20 with but that only diminishes considering how many tournaments they failed in
Wait are you saying the absolute “it is coming home meltdown” and Thomas Tuchel’s nationality being called out in question as an England coach. A World Cup is a bigger population supporting a single team compared to EPL, It’s the same in IPL vs T20 WC
Currently the importance of any ICC tournament is way greater than IPL. Although the competition might be more in IPL than some of those. Also there is a nationalistic pride that matters to a lot of indians. Although i think if India wins a series of ICC trophies on a roll say 5/7. Then Indians might take that for granted and consider IPL more important. Still it won't be ever bigger than the ODI world cup. P.S- I see none of that happening anytime soon.
Obviously..we need to consider how many these tournaments India went to finals ..that’s itself tells he is far capable and Lot of cricket still left ..he is the best captain ..after Dhoni
Malinga in one ov the ipl finals don’t rem which one, almost single handedly won MI the final. But can you compare that to BUMRAH’s spell in last final? Same goes for the time when jadeja won that late night final for CSK(absolute box office stuff) but does that even hold a candle to CARLOS BREATHWEIT hitting stokes out of his mental health basically. That’s why i say. Any international trophy > Any domestic cup.
Only the guy on the left seemed sensible. It felt like either you people don't follow Cricket enough, or don't understand Cricket. The discussion was too shallow - didn't consider captaincy much, coach's role and performance in world cups. Undermining the T20 world cup - lol you people are kids really.
According to this anchor the two T20 WC wins by England shouldn't count too? T20 is the modern cricket and has affected how other formats are played too
Well he will be forever remembered only as a white ball specialist but for me he could have done much better in test but Okk we can make peace with it you don't get everything you wish for
Rohit Sharma will struggle in England and NZ conditions. He is a good ODI player but not in tests. He is a failure in red ball cricket. See his SENA record. That speaks volumes.
Jon Norman has this annoying habit of interrupting the other panelists, often mid-sentence, with his random thoughts. It derails the conversation. He did it here with the EPL/Euro analogy. He did the same in the Kohli video with a tangent about Mark Ramprakash.
India lost because of pressure in the knockout matches because there is a lot of expectations from the players and also the drought of 10-12 years of no icc trophy adds to it otherwise India would have the most number of icc trophies till now we are the most consistent to reach finals and semifinals
Joker 🤡 says in comment section that rohit not as great as Dravid sachin dhoni Kapil Ganguly and kohil 😂 i don't think anybody do that rohit do highest scorer in world cup winning dor india and captain along with Kapil dev did that why people remember kapil dev even Ganguly not win icc tournament but people remember him. Rohit leave lot of his personal milestone for winning world cup but remember kohil because of personal milestone but not rohit as winning world cup what is logic that🤡😂
Kohli has won more games for India than Rohit has centuries. You people have fallen prey to Rohit's PR campaign against Virat and painted his achievements in a negative way. India was never a very good chasing side. After Virat, even Australia is afraid to send us to bat 2nd. From 2013-2020 Virat Kohli was on top of the world, no other player enjoyed a peak that long.
IPL is not bigger than any ICC tournament.
Agreed. Also it's worth mentioning that Rohit won the t20 world cup in 2007 as a teenager, so he has Two T20 World Cups. He Scored a crucial 30 in the final and also got a 50 in a must win game against South Africa in 2007
@jonathanfrancis7608 I am not questioning rohits legacy. I am just saying that IPL is not equal to ICC tournaments. And yes rohit does have a good legacy in ICC tournaments being a batter and now winning a tournament as well. Its just the host was constantly saying that IPL is worth more than ICC tournaments.
Champions Trophy yes
Better in quality than most international tournament tho.
@@randomguyzsz3161hell no
Any WC> IPL anytime.. representing all Indians here
No
Not in 20 years time. It pains me to say that IPL will take over even 50 overs World Cup let alone a random t20 cup played every 2 years
Right now yes. They are talking about 10 to 20 years in future. Who knows.
We can see this already in football upto some extent
ipl one match is literally wc all matches minus ind vs pak so stfu financially
@@naveenkumar4527uncles being a cricket tragic will always be funny
Nah man obviously T20 wc is bigger than the IPL
ODI WC > T20 WC > IPL > WTC > Champs Trophy
@@anonymouslyopinionated656 close but I think WTC is higher
Wtc championship is better than T20 wc
@@anonymouslyopinionated656 WTC > ODI > T20 > Champs Trophy > IPL. Test Cricket is pinnacle of Cricket, ODI is Pop Cricket, T20 is Masala Cricket
@@shyyou93 Lol no one watches the test , people don't have time to sit and watch the whole 5 days. Odi wc is the most prestigious and t-20 wc is the global world cup ? ?
The guy in the middle killed this discussion !
He is the worst. Most biased guy. Dunno why Kimber tolerates him
@@shalompatole5710he is right, a T20 captain
That one and one mark Nicholas! All-knowing wankers. The mere voices of them disgust me.
He was bare annoying
Ipl will never matter as wc. The thing you are not taking into account is india is much more nationalist then uk.
that why we knocked out from WC more no times than winning it ..
More nationalist than UK.
They pay taxes to show their nationalism.
We play cricket 😂
More nationalist than UK.
They pay taxes to show their nationalism.
We play cricket 😂
@@kingsingh566 WC is not a trophy for "the most nationalist country"
@@PankajKumar6493 I think u r not a cricket lover that's why
IPL biggrer than the T20 WC is a truly bizzare take.
except it isn't, other nations don't even take t20 wc seriously. WI players who play IPL don't even care if they come with their best team no team is winning against them
@@sadman-hd5rx Except that it is. If other nations and their players don't think the T20 WC is important, that's their problem. It still doesn't mean IPL is bigger than the T20 WC. One's an ICC tournament featuring international teams. The other is just a cash grab tournament featuring domestic players and a few international players playing together.
Middle guy is a bit retardid
IPL is about money, none of the players care who wins and nobody watching with a brain cares either. Internationals are infinitely superior, especially SENA.
@@aks19880 ICC is owned by BCCI now anyways so it doesn't matter. T20 wc is like an auction for players to get into IPL and become a millionaire
1)Rohit will be like top 10 batsman in odi of all time and in odi worldcup like all time best.
2)Rohits double centuries alone will make him relevant for the remaining 21st century timeline.
3)He won five ipl titles as captain.
Been part of one t20 worlcup win and captained other.
4)Almost won one odi worldcup under his captaincy when he was the best batsman in that team.
5)Got most sixes in international cricket and that record is gonna stay there for long.
6)Sheer amount of odi runs he made will always be shown when we talk about records for decades to come.
7)The next gen indian cricketers love him so he will be mentioned every now and then by them. This point shows how good of a senior he has been to them.
No
5 IPL titles is a rubbish claim. What did he do in those titles? We can see what sort of a captain he is, not very bright up there. He almost lost an absolutely set world cup against SA by giving the 15th over to Axar Patel when it was very well known that Klaasen would smash him to bits which he did. Jadeja would have been a better option and Hardik only bowled 3 overs in that final. And in the first innings, Hardik didn't come on to bat ahead of Shivam Dube. Hardik had scored a 27 ball 50 in that stadium a week or so ago. What sort of captaincy is that? He's not even in the top 10 Indian ODI batters of all time.
@@prithviroy11yes, Atleast Jadeja wouldn't have conceded that many runs.
@@prithviroy11People don't care for the stats, people only remember how you made them feel, double centuries against puny opponents doesn't count, going after the big fish the bigger prize winning the important things matter most.
@prithviroy11
Average kohlison 😂 can't digest Rohit's success
Rohit played a major role in the 2007 T20 wc final, he lead from the front for the T20 wc 2024, had ridiculously good ODI WCs with the bat in 2019 and 23.
He is arguably the 2nd greatest ODI opener. The record of 264 and 3 200s would be tough to break. He has the most sixes in int'l cricket.
Not to mention he is the most successful IPL player ever. His test career would be one of the biggest what ifs in cricket history. Should have been made to open earlier
Wouldlbd want him in a knockout game
He is not most successful IPL player
Most successful IPL player, YES.
Failed against Pak in ct 2017 final and 2023 World Cup final 2019 semi final
He failed miserably in 2014, 2016 and 2022 T20 World Cups. Kohli played like a one man army in those. If Rohit and others had given him support then we could have won those tournaments.
1. ODI WC >> T20 WC >> IPL
2. Rohit’s been a great white ball batter and a decent red ball batter. He captained India to a T20 WC win, an ODI WC final (with tremendous opening batting) and a WTC final(not even counting the 4x IPL wins).
That is a tremendous legacy regardless of any recent or future form!
I can’t name the last three IPL winners, I can name the last three T20 wc winners.
yes bro nation tournament is always bigger than any domestic leauge
Rohit's legacy is a mixed bag. He will be remembered as a great player/leader but will not be remembered at the level of the all-time greats like Kapil, Sachin, Ganguly, Dravid, Mahi, Virat, etc.
Much better than few you listed here
@@iamray112 No
@@iamray112as a player probably yes. But probably won't be remembered as fondly
Ganguly is not an all time great. Stop trolling
As a ODI batsman, Rohit is a probably inside the Greatest 10 ever
The only problem with Rohit has been his inconsistency. When he is in form he plays like no one else could play. You may love him or hate him but he indeed is a great of the game.
2007 T20 WC
2013 Champions Trophy
2024 T20 WC
2025 Champions Trophy
50+ 100s
That's how he will be remembered! The HITMAN
3 200s in ODI also
@@Undertakeaap yes and 5 T20I 100s
Most international sixes
from India's pov ofcourse IPL has money, but we all keep any International trophy above it. forget about ICC trophies, BGT is bigger than IPL for us in terms of respect and skill. we simply don't compare international stuff to IPL. This is now
As Indians we don't care about IPL when compared to any ICC trophy. One is completely business and ICC trophy is completely personal.
Nohit and Nohli both made the mistake of sticking around for too long...they're well past their prime for about 3 years now. Their legacy will reflect this. India has many talented young players but the superstar culture means it's team performs below par most of the time.
Oh now the T20 world cup doesn't count? Such a horrible take, the guy in the middle always is the worst part of these videos
Rohit legacy is today generation lot of kids in india not see india winning any icc tournament and world cup and that rohit inspire in young kid inspiration to next generation world cup winning important
T20i wc win matters a lot because this wc was won while being completely unbeaten, which has never ever happened in history
its a meaningless tournament. t20 is not real cricket. Everyone knows that. Only tests and odi's matter.
@@AranyaKedia you are living in the wrong era mate🤣
You guys are forgetting he has won two T20 WC right 2008 one also
He also didn't get selected in 2011 squad
It was in 2007, and he was a fringe member of the squad who didn't even bat in a few games. He wasn't selected in the 2011 WC because he wasn't good enough. Virat is younger than him and he still got selected because Virat had been scoring important runs when the team needed him to. And this selfless/selfish narrative that Rohit has started was the opposite before 2023. Rohit still has a lower ODI overall SR than Virat. So he was the one who used to take his time to get his runs, and in those 200s he scored, he was assisted by some ordinary fielding and some very poor umpiring (this has been his ally even in those IPL wins)
@@prithviroy11 well he got 30(16)* in the 2007 wc final so not exactly a fringe player. and your point about him starting slow js proves he cares more for the team than anyone else if hes willing to change his whole game even though he alr had stats that put him in the top 10 to ever play. and you can't be an all time great and win the most ipl titles as a captain purely because of umpiring and fiedling can u, otherwise why do so many other players not have the same stats and records??
@YashThaker-q3r that 30(16) gave him enough credit to honk through 6-7 other T20 WCs. 2014, 2016, 2022 he played run a ball and scored roughly around 80-100 runs. We could have won those World Cups had there been a better player at the top. He is definitely not in the top 10 to ever play the game lmao. Even Sehwag is a better overall batsman. And again, IPL trophies aren't his to claim. I don't think he ever crossed 550 runs in a season with his main skill. His captaincy is terrible, we can see that very clearly now. Until this point his poor captaincy has been either not called out because of his elegant stroke play or because people are just so blinded by his PR agency that the attention shifts on other players. 2022 WC semi final is a prime example. Virat stitched a partnership with Hardik who also started relatively slow and then went on to score 68(38) or smth, Virat got out just after he had started to accelerate and he got 50(40). Rohit? He scored less than run a ball, he couldn't hit the middle of the bat for his 27 off 28. But everyone was talking about how Virat Kohli is a selfish player who only plays for his 50s and 100s. And then Rohit comes out and blames the loss entirely on the bowlers, no accountability, no responsibility for his calls, his batting failure. This is not a true leader. In the next world cup he again hints that Virat is the problem because he plays for himself. Bhosdike teri century nahi hai utni jitni uski winning cause me hai India ke liye. This guy wants all the sympathy and plays to the masses outside of the field more than he does on-field like many of the greats. And his wife, who doesn't know to keep her nose out of it. How many unnecessary comments has she made on social media on various posts, videos on social media? At this point, if people deny that he doesn't do paid tweets and posts, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.
@YashThaker-q3rrohit was not selected for odi nd test initially becoz he was not a deserved batsman in those format he played well only after he played as an opener becoz basically he was a spinner...
In many ways Rohit reminds of Ganguly. Both have lazy elegance in their batting, both had a start stop beginning to their international careers and both good captains. Ganguly had a good working relation with John Wright and took the team to the WC final in 2003. Rohit had a good relation with Dravid, reached WTC & ODI finals in 23 and won T20 final in 24. Ganguly got Greg Chappell after Wright and things went down quickly for him. Lost his form and Captaincy. Team was all over the place until Chappell was sacked after 2007 WC. Rohit has now got Gambhir and he has lost his form, didn't captain the team in the last test, from being no 1 in test the team has gone completely south and we are hearing about dressing room issues. Just hope they play well in England ODIs and Champions trophy otherwise things will unravel faster than the Chappell era.
Rohit is a one time talent❤
Beautiful batsman
White ball GOAT
T20 World cup is bigger than that and Rohit's legacy is that he brought back the belief in India that it can win the ICC trophies when we had lost that belief ....
World Cup being bigger than IPL or any such League is the truth and that's how it should be forever. And for the goodness of the game, it should remain the highest forever.
Rohit Sharma will be considered all time legend in 50 Over format and t20 purely based on his numbers overall and his impact in world cups and the word cups he has won.
Its best not to associate him with test matches though.
Not in T20 cricket but yes he is a great odi cricketer
@@debasismohanty1952why not in t20 he won 2 t20 world Cup most matches played
@@ashishprabhakar2201 yes he won the T20 world cup twice but that's doesn't mean he is a great T20 batsman MSD also won a T20 World Cup but msd is not a great international T20 batsman
@@debasismohanty1952 most centuries in t20 I
Most wins percentage among Indian t20 Captain
You are idiot for sure
@@debasismohanty1952 What are you looking at to judge whether he's a good t20 batsman?
Could Rohit be compared to Eoin Morgan both players has a great influence of how thier team played limited overs cricket.
had rohit won the odi wc then only he could've been compared with morgan
Morgan didn't won the WC it was ICC rules that decided the results in england favour.@@sliptepop3661
Rohit is not as classy as Eoin Morgan. Rohit abuses his own players so much. Whereas other captains abuse opponents. That's how you win.
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Stop spamming everywhere 😂
Kohlison😅
@@prithviroy11 bro we agree rohit is not even a player
just relax and chill no need to reply every comment😂😂
Starting from 1975, one can say all the world cup winners and will remember the finals match... Most can't remember the last 3-4 IPL finals... Even Indians don't remember or care for IPL from June to March.
IPL is nowhere *any* world cup. There's just not that kind of attachment to the teams. It may change in 10-20 years but today's viewers value the real international competition of bi/multilateral tournaments way more. Cricket doesn't need to move towards football as some north star where arbitrary club allegiance dominates and international teams are looked at only periodically.
Rohit Sharma Great in Limited Overs Cricket but underperformed in Test Cricket. He doesn't even have 5000 Test Runs and has same number of Test Hundreds as Anil Kumble and Ajith Agarkar in SENA.
I feel quite apathetic to both the T20 WC and the IPL, but that's just because I regard T20 as third run / third tier cricket. Tests and ODIs are clearly more skilful and suspenseful formats. T20 is still nothing more than a sugar hit. I would probably watch the T20 WC over the IPL, but I wouldn't miss either.
Rohit greatest odi world cup batsman that legacy he has and some people says that rohit not great as others 😂🤡 . Yes rohit he not that great that others but rohit is greatest then others
Failed when it mattered the most ct2017 final wc2019 semi final wc2023 final
He will go down as one of the greatest players of all time as by the time he retires, he would have scored around 22,000-24,000 runs with 55-60 centuries including all those double centuries in ODI cricket and as a captain he has won the T20 World Cup, 2 Asia Cups and 5 IPLs which takes his legacy even further.
His records in the ODI Cricket World Cup are amazing. He has scored 1575 runs in the World Cup at an unbelievable average of 60.57 🥶
In ODI cricket, he has scored 1328 runs in Australia at an average of 53.12 and 1428 runs in England with a great average of 64.90 🥵
In ODI cricket against the strongest opposition team like Australia, he has scored 2379 runs at an average of 58.02 💀
He is the greatest of all time in ODI cricket.
He isn't the greatest of all time in odi,though he is the greatest opener
@Hry1236y I said one of the greatest of all time & The Greatest White Ball Opener
Bruh kohli is the GOAT of ODI batting
Highest scorer in world cup winning and along with captain >>>>>>>>>>>>> any record in cricket
Sachin once said - winning world cup is my biggest achievement in cricket not 100 century and all these record
He wasn't the highest scorer in the world cup. It was Rahmanullah Gurbaz. He was India's highest scorer. And I thought we weren't supposed to look at personal milestones.
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Look at both strike rate gubaz with 124 and Rohit with 156 and even Rohit strike rate was 125 in odi wc better than gurbaz strike rate 😂
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Why are you spamming everywhere against Rohit? In every comment box
@@RajeshSharma-fc8mkjust check the avg nd sr of head in that t20 wc he has better stats than rohit in that wc he has scored only 2 runs oess than rohit by playing 1 match less than rohit
Rohit great odi player,but not great test batter.
Won IPL 5 times ,and also Icc T20 wcup 2024.
In limited overs cricket, rohit is a modern great.
In tests, he is an average player. Maybe that's why he doesn't get mentioned as much.
I'm a big fan of Rohit Sharma, but I always felt his achievements in MI-IPL should be taken with a pinch of salt. I felt a lot of what Rohit did in IPl, had to be attributed to the MI franchise. The brains of MI - identifying young potential talent like Bumrah, Hardik ; building a strong core team - think of Pollard, Hardik and inform Krunal in the middle order, always having a proper pace attack, while other teams like RCB, CSK were struggling to get 1 decent world class pacer- All of this was MI's doing. Of course, Rohit did his part on the field as a captain, but the question is - Would Rohit have achieved the same with a RCB team or a less structured team than MI? He was still a great and obvious pick for captaining India white ball team, but Rohit was never a proper out & our test player. Rohit as a captain in Test was kind of pushed to make it happen.
Just answer a simple question then, why didn't mi win a single title before 2013?
@KiranMane123becoz ponting was not a great t20i captain nd mi was not strong before 2013 still mi reached finals in 2010 nd won champion league before 2013
@@bharathikannan5952 funny how the same team became a champion team without any significant changes as soon as captainship changed hands 🤯
Rohit Sharma will be remembered as the leader who changed the mindset of Indian team. The stat obsessed team has become fearless in his era.
If stat obsessed mindset keeps my team undefeated in home tests and wins my team The border gavaskar trophy every time I would gladly take the stat obsessed mindset!!!!
@yashvardhansinghthakur6387 Bro I was talking about white ball team. Rohit's approach is limited to white ball cricket. He didn't do that in tests except in that one game against Bangladesh which they had to win in 2 days. Coming to home series loss, Indian batters were losing their spin game in last few years and it reached peak in that series. And the failure of Ashwin & Jadeja came out of nowhere. And you can't take 20 wickets in BGT with one bowler.
😂😂😂😂 pr team member spotted
@@debasismohanty1952 Looks like you are pr member of someone else. Why heating our own Indian player bro?
@@keerthan45 hating?? Bro i never believe hero worshipping culture cricket is a simple game if you age 36 or 37 and can't perform just announce retirement allow and someone else to do the job consistently Virat Kohli already passed his prime but still he wants to drag his career
What I believe for an Indian Cricketer - WInning Overseas Test Series vs ENG/AUS >> WCs >>> IPL title......
Losing the ODI World Cup final apparently overshadows the gangbuster run to that final.
Trophies over everything boi
Comparing a yearly tournament with one that happens every 4 years doesnt equate
For me in terms of test,
Kholi - ravi shastri was the best ,
Rohit could not sustain it
Rohit is an all time great in ODI
He was a terrific T20 player
But was a mediocre test player failed to live up to his potential.
He is not in the league of Gavaskar, Kapil, Sachin, Dravid, Kumble,Ashwin, Kholi
But dhoni and rohit legacy Is different then all these player
Virat is not an all Time great in test cricket. He doesn't average over 50 in any country besides india and his overall average is of a very good batsman, an all Time great needs to average 50++, plus only 40% of his 100´s have come in Indian wins, and none of them came in an Indian win when the team was in trouble. He never was able to win India a game after india was 50-3 or less. SUPer over rated in test cricke
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And terrible captain in limited over format 😅
Actually no one in India is interested in winning, their pockets are full. India "SPORTS FAN" is dumb, they will rather hero worship then actually see their team win. Gone are Dravid, Tendulkar, Zaheer even Dhoni.
Simple example is, please go at look at the celebration that these people had when they scored a TON and took wicket, they believed that it is their job to score runs, present cricketers more interested in no "filmi" celebration then actually winning.
This generation players are more interested in playing ipl then international cricket 😂😂😂😂
You are one of them
He speaks truth @@jetpark3743
So you think Australians don't celebrate their wickets and their centuries? How do you win games? By scoring more than the opponent and by taking wickets faster than they can score off of your bowling. Ajeeb chutiye log hai yaar sahi me. Personal milestones are part of this team sport. Football me goal maar ke celebrate nahi karte kya? Dimag bech diya hai Rohit ka PR aur uska narrative sunn ke.
Dhoni & Kapil Dev were the greatest captain of India. Ganguly, Kohli and Azhar are good captains. Rohit stands nowhere near any of the above. His career and captaincy prolonged only because of Mumbai Indians titles
Under Rohit, India reached final in 50 over world cup and then won T20 world cup. Statistics says he is more successful captain than Kohli or Ganguly in white ball. Your bias is duly noted though.
Ganguly became captain after a match-fixing scandal and led the team to victory in the 2002 ICC Champions Trophy. He changed the indian cricket when we are in deep mess...he may have not won wc but he laid the pillers for the indian cricket team....most of the 2011 wc winning team players like Yuvraj Singh, Zaheer Khan, Harbhajan Singh, Virender Sehwag, and MS Dhoni debuted under him....dhoni may be successful captain but dada is the best after kapil....
Ganguly Kohli and Azhar 2 chokers and a fixer cant be compared to a wc winning captain
@@parth_77777 What’s ur age…
Kohli son bias now making azahar also good captain good
I am impressed by the amount of knowledge Kimber possesses about Indian cricket.
Three foreign sitting in room of AC and talk about legacy of rohit is not that great 😂🤡
Rohit sharma world cup winning captain and highest scorer in world cup is enough to tell people his legacy in india. These people not know how many people inspire in india after winning t20wc because there are foreign
Exactly jarrod is the only sensible one there
But surely winning the t20 World Cup can’t be that big a legacy
Chris Jordan and Alex hales have t20 World Cup medals
This would put butler and rohit on the same level and rohit is surely the better cricketer, he has other legacy too
Football, Hockey, Basketball, Rugby and Baseball have one world cup. The biennial T20 WC has never been considered a "world cup", the ODI WC is a real world cup.
In ODI he is one of the greatest of all time batsman but in T20 and test he is just an average batsman like Bradman 😊😊😊
Bradman testicles>>> vadapav
Based John saying the World Cup is more important than the World T20
based? more like basic.
cwc has more prestige but to me t20 wc mattered more which we won.
Country over Club, always.
Winning an International Tournament has far more prestige and fanfare than a club tournament.
Rohit's legacy will be the same as Ganguly. And that I mean as a batsman, not as captain. Both opened in ODIs. Made loads of runs. Both have been average in tests. As a batsman he surely has won India some matches. His 183 in the match at Taunton will be remembered for a long time. But he isn't considered a great batsman. There were Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman and Sehwag in the same team.
And if we factor in captaincy Ganguly also has one ICC tournament to his name - 2002 ICC Champions Trophy (though joint championship with SL).
Ganguly was a good test batsman for far longer than Rohit has turned out.
Rohit will be remembered as a flat track expert. For his massive ODI scores and IPL trophies.
Looks like you are talking about chokli 😅
The guy in the middle is correct. There are too many world cups in cricket. It is a joke. No other major team sport (Soccer, Rugby etc) has a World Cup every 18 months.
IPL can never be bigger than any icc trophy, most Indians would agree, Plus T20 world cup is pretty big, obviously the odi cup is the biggest, But t20 is very much the second biggest trophy of cricket economy
Interesting conversation really . Liked this . But I want Rohit and Kohli treated separately as Dravid or Sachin . They didn’t have the same path , they should be allowed to perform/end on their own. I feel they have a lot to offer this year for the game with their batting. It will be a wonderful Indian cricket year 🎉
He was also part of the 2007 T20 world cup winning team. So he has won 2 T20 world cups.
I can guarantee no Indian fan thinks the IPL is bigger than any icc tournament barring the champions trophy, only 4 teams in the ipl have real fans let’s be honest here
IPL is bigger than the t20 WORLD CUP is a weird hill to die on 🤡
Rohit will be remembered as a great odi player and a very good captain
I think the confusion is IPL is bigger than T20 WC qualifying and semis but the T20 WC Final is biggest
Virat is a complete player, particularly when it comes to Test cricket. Rohit, on the other hand, stands out as India’s finest white-ball batsman. As the victorious captain of the T20 World Cup 2024 and having led the team brilliantly in the ODI World Cup 2023, he will be remembered as a World Cup-winning captain-regardless of whether it’s a T20 World Cup or otherwise.
Failed when it mattered the most ct2017 2019 semi final 2023 final
Why we don’t have the name of ‘the guy in the middle’ in video caption/notes. It’s hard to critic one without knowing thy name.
All ICC tournaments > IPL or any other domestic league - thats true for fans and players. And any discussions about IPL being above ICC tournaments is silly. IPL has been around for 15 years already - has it taken over the world cups in prestige? not a chance - didn't even close the gap. Even in footie where leagues happen all year around and the rivalries are much much more tribal - WCs and Euros are way bigger than any domestic league. IPL is 2 ish month affairs where players get swapped around anyways so you cannot expect that to ever rival Aus vs England or Pak vs Ind etc prestige let alone winning an ICC trophy. Anyone still in doubt can ask all members of 2023 indian team whether they would give up all their IPL medals to win that game on 19/11/23
Rohit will always be a T20 legend, 2 World Cups (1 as captain) and 6 IPL Championships (5 as captain)
It's not a "fantastic legacy" but he was a decent limited overs bat and helped india win a t20 with but that only diminishes considering how many tournaments they failed in
Wait are you saying the absolute “it is coming home meltdown” and Thomas Tuchel’s nationality being called out in question as an England coach. A World Cup is a bigger population supporting a single team compared to EPL,
It’s the same in IPL vs T20 WC
Rohit also won the won 2007 T20 World Cup
he is top 10 odi batsmen of all time that's a fact. as a indian captian it could have been a better record. it is a mixed bag
Annoying interviewing technique of Jon Norman... interrupting often and being argumentative
This is Rayudu's dream podcast.He would have told you IPL is bigger than FIFA WC.
Wc is bigger than ipl,the day it becomes more important than we cricket is donee
Currently the importance of any ICC tournament is way greater than IPL. Although the competition might be more in IPL than some of those. Also there is a nationalistic pride that matters to a lot of indians.
Although i think if India wins a series of ICC trophies on a roll say 5/7. Then Indians might take that for granted and consider IPL more important. Still it won't be ever bigger than the ODI world cup.
P.S- I see none of that happening anytime soon.
Azhar a good captain really. A man who fixed matches when captaining India.
I don't understand why they are showing interest on indian cricket. They should discuss about their respective team. We should discuss our team.
Obviously..we need to consider how many these tournaments India went to finals ..that’s itself tells he is far capable and Lot of cricket still left ..he is the best captain ..after Dhoni
Malinga in one ov the ipl finals don’t rem which one, almost single handedly won MI the final. But can you compare that to BUMRAH’s spell in last final?
Same goes for the time when jadeja won that late night final for CSK(absolute box office stuff) but does that even hold a candle to CARLOS BREATHWEIT hitting stokes out of his mental health basically.
That’s why i say.
Any international trophy > Any domestic cup.
Only the guy on the left seemed sensible.
It felt like either you people don't follow Cricket enough, or don't understand Cricket.
The discussion was too shallow - didn't consider captaincy much, coach's role and performance in world cups.
Undermining the T20 world cup - lol you people are kids really.
Rohit was at the right place at the right time
As an indian , T20 wc is way bigger than IPL
According to this anchor the two T20 WC wins by England shouldn't count too? T20 is the modern cricket and has affected how other formats are played too
Why are these fellows just saying that we Indians prioritise ipl over a wc without actually knowing?? Jealous of ind's economic growth
T20 world cup is not a world cup but winning a 50 over world cup by leveling the score is winning a world cup....
Any International trophy > Any Domestic cup full stop.
IPL > any ICC tournament
Well he will be forever remembered only as a white ball specialist but for me he could have done much better in test but Okk we can make peace with it you don't get everything you wish for
Rohit Sharma impressive at t O. D. I . But ordinary at test level.😊
I think he is great in ODI's but nothing in tests
Rohit Sharma will struggle in England and NZ conditions. He is a good ODI player but not in tests. He is a failure in red ball cricket. See his SENA record. That speaks volumes.
Fact is Rohit average is 45+ in England and newzealand while his average is less than 25 in australia and newzealand
It would be stupid for India to take Rohit Sharma to England.
Ipl means absolutely nothing.
Isliye poori country pagal hojati hai IPL mein
U guys forgot india won the champions trophy in 2013 and rohit played there
Jon Norman has this annoying habit of interrupting the other panelists, often mid-sentence, with his random thoughts. It derails the conversation. He did it here with the EPL/Euro analogy. He did the same in the Kohli video with a tangent about Mark Ramprakash.
Rohit is goat
India lost because of pressure in the knockout matches because there is a lot of expectations from the players and also the drought of 10-12 years of no icc trophy adds to it otherwise India would have the most number of icc trophies till now we are the most consistent to reach finals and semifinals
England performed really well in 2023 wc odi
Rohit was in team of 2007 which won t20 World cup
ODI WC is bigger than any other league or tournament... be it IPL or even T20 WC.
We Indians value T20 WC more than IPL.
Joker 🤡 says in comment section that rohit not as great as Dravid sachin dhoni Kapil Ganguly and kohil 😂 i don't think anybody do that rohit do highest scorer in world cup winning dor india and captain along with Kapil dev did that why people remember kapil dev even Ganguly not win icc tournament but people remember him. Rohit leave lot of his personal milestone for winning world cup but remember kohil because of personal milestone but not rohit as winning world cup what is logic that🤡😂
bro they are lockdown kids, with diapers on
Kohli has won more games for India than Rohit has centuries. You people have fallen prey to Rohit's PR campaign against Virat and painted his achievements in a negative way. India was never a very good chasing side. After Virat, even Australia is afraid to send us to bat 2nd. From 2013-2020 Virat Kohli was on top of the world, no other player enjoyed a peak that long.
Brilliant grammar ✌️
@ Grammar* lmao
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Cry harder choklians 😂🤣
Don't compare tuk tuk selfish chokli with Hitman
T20 world cup is not bigger than ipl. people say it is bigger, But they feel differently(It is not about me only, everyone feels this way).
As big as IPL can get it's still gonna be a domestic league. The INDIAN Premier League has very little value in comparison to a WORLD Cup.
Sunil Gavaskar has been stuck in the past and that's why people don't listen to him anymore.