Ep 3 - Look Ma, no clamps! Hand Tool Guitar Top Jointing - Redwood SG
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
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In this episode, Ben is showing you how not to joint a guitar top. He is using a 'no clamp' technique with masking tape. This failed the first time through 'user error'....
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:34 Using various templates Ben draws out the top of the guitar
5:26 Shooting board techniques
8:39 Gluing the pieces - or not!
10:04 Again......
12:46 Drawing the back
15:09 Using a cabinet scraper on the glued joint before going through the thickneser
18:08 Letting the wood speak! - should be gorgeous under finish.
20:34 Conclusion
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The shorter, more educational format is a great idea. Just don't get rid entirely of the entertainment portion, as that is what makes the knowledge really stick with me.
And the occasional "how *not* to" portion can help us avoiding these mistakes.
Thanks for leaving that in! Had a good laugh. I'm sure we've all done similar or worse!
Been there, done that!
I’m sure it was deliberate for comedy / educational purposes!
@@brymills sadly it wasn’t when I did it😀
I love how you show us the schoolboy errors (which we're all guilty of) rather than edit them out. I mean, we didn't need to see that but I'm so happy that we did.
Looking forward to seeing this one develop.
To me, a master is not someone who rarely makes mistakes. A master is someone who recovers from mistakes and/or uses them as inspiration to go in a different direction. Ben is not just a master, but also a teacher. To teach effectively, he must not only show us how to do things correctly, but also how to fix our mistakes. From an educational perspective, he needs to include the mistakes. From an entertainment perspective, people like to see other people mess up. Bottom line, the mistakes need to stay.
I’d say that by creating entertaining build videos you’ll trick even more people into learning 🤓
And thanks for using masking tape from a company I have stock in 😁
Long-form videos do it for me...I see it as therapy.
Ben, you are as much an entertainer as you are an educator and master craftsman.
I watch Crimson religiously from Brazil. Couples my love of guitars and building with that of Dorset (Poole/Bournemouth/The Purbecks) where I grew up.
I love that you're doing this as an SG. I think the inlaid top should be flush, a double bevel would distract from the carve too much. If you want to add more interest to the inlaid top, why not use some tasteful inlaid binding like on the Kauri build.
Wow that takes balls, you could have edited that, much respect, and a good laugh.
God love ya for not editing out the ‘bonehead’ things that we all do. I was laughing with you - not at you, Ben. 😉🤣
Coming back for your ‘entertainment’ vs ‘education’ question… I really enjoy the long form videos where you take a project quite a ways toward completion, if not actual completion. Perhaps an idea might be to film long form, but also come back and chop the video into those ‘shorter & more focused on a single task’ chapters that you could then release as shorter length videos?
I’ll watch either way to be honest, but I do rather enjoy the longer form method. I’m always fascinated by the order of the tasks along the way, and how certain tasks seem to flow into the next. The how’s and why’s of it I guess. So again, I’ll be here to watch them all. But I hope you don’t stop doing longer format content altogether.
As always… thanks for all that you guys are doing. 👍🏼
I've always enjoyed the longer videos personally
Great to see you back building again Ben superb 🎉
Thank you so very much for leaving the mistakes in the videos. So nice to see mistakes are made by all and just part of the process.
I concur with that 🎸
Enjoying the build. Looking forward to seeing what you have planned for the inlays. I’d love to see more builders making wood inlays (different types of wood, of course), versus using abalone or other typical materials. Kinda like how I love faux wood binding and wood pickguards
I could watch these videos all day, super relaxing.
I cannot wait to see how this turns out, I'm glad you're going with the SG body style.
You could as well be manufacturing toothpics and would all the same make it look incredibly interesting. It's not the format but the person. Thank you, sir, and everybody at the workshop.
If all our descendants have to go on for history about this time period is TH-cam, Tiktok etc. They are going to resort to calling it "The perfect period" because too few people show things as they really are, or with the mistakes left in. So good on you. More of this please.🙏
Crimson Custom Guitars ... best comedy channel on TH-cam!
This SG is going to look soooo cool. I can't wait to hear the finished build.
I'm playing catch-up on this build, but I'm happy to finally see an SG build. Im an "SG guy". I've mentioned it a few times over the last few yrs and this is exciting to see your interpretation!
Thanks, Ben. Yes please to the new format x
HA😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😅😅
I love that you won’t edit this stuff out. It’s one of the many reasons we luv ya Ben.
I love this format
Power tools are great but using scrapers, handplanes or spokeshaves is so relaxing and therapeutic. That is going to look so cool i think. Thanks for posting.
That grain is EXCELLENT !!
You don't even need a shooting board to match the two halves. I often put thin boards in a vise and plane free-hand. If you are slightly off-square, the two boards get matching angles, and so join together at 180
Oh that was a classic - was trying to figure just what the countdown was leading to, and that was my 3rd choice!!
Looks like an interesting build!!
I wanted to save this for the weekend, but couldn't resist while my students are reviewing for their finals. Now I guess I have to sort out my router situation and route some truss rod channels this weekend.
I like the idea of shorter videos - I spend a lot of time either at work or commuting, so my free time has a tendency to be "how much of the stuff I like can I cram into the two hours before I have to go to bed if I want at least 5 hours of sleep." A lot of my favourite TH-cam channels have been making their videos exponentially longer... so I end up just not watching them. I put them on "watch later" for perpetuity.
I think a fully inlaid top would look better. Partly inlaid would just look like it's been glued on top IMHO. You could do a contrasting binding on the piece that's being inlaid to make it extra fancy. In fact I think you should do exactly that. Then let me win it in the raffle... 😂
The handtool only build is hanging out there waiting to be finished, getting all miffed that other instruments are getting all of the love
Greatly enjoy your videos and can't wait to see what you come up with for the inlays.
I love that you left that bit in the video Ben, I think you might need a relaxing holiday hehe
Hello Ben I think it will be better if the inlaid top is flush with the body once it is inlaid in to the body. I think that if the edge is proud of the top there is a risk that it may chip or splinter along the edge.
Totally loughinh off my three letters at 09:34. Expecting the masking tape to be ripping apart or so. Though glueing up the wrong side really got me
God on ya Ben for going for choice #3 out of 2 options,it’s what the wood was wanting to become an SG , not sure if you remember me asking about a Tele in British Racing Green? A few years back…
Well God Damn apparently Fender are bringing one out, they must have read my comment back then 😂😂😂…
Cool content as always with respect from New Zealand, I’m the other White bait Kauri guy✌️😎👍
Very educational & as always very entertaining Ben + Sofia video's
Thank you 🌞
I have started using Gorilla Tape to close thin wood joints, its has a nice bit of stretch to it and comes off clean
Like the format.
I love the idea of shorter with the added education value.
Been there, done that. This is going to be one awesome build.
Since you're going to the trouble of inlaying the top I feel like it would be counter productive to leave it proud & also carved. Proud & given an even contour of its own maybe, but not the body carve.
I like both format options, I also think that it has to do with the on camera talent. Some folks are better presented in shorter segments (not pointing to anyone at Crimson), you do well in both settings.
That is a beautiful piece of redwood!
Imagine that. The first time when you traced the top backwards it wasn't a mistake, it was foreshadowing :)
I am visually impressed already, I like the shorter focused vids but do miss the banter, keep any mistakes in please, makes me feel slightly better about mine hahaha
Yeah, none of us have ever made mistakes 🙄
In my mind a flush inlay would be cool 😛
Nice you kept the cock-up in! I first saw the masking tape trick on Chris Paulick's channel, and I've used it on accoustic tops and backs ever since. You get all the pressure you need with none of the faff invovled with the various clamping jigs.
Cool, thanks!
I think flush inlay - anything else could look like a veneer on top with an angled edge (cool yes but not like a full inlay). If you are inlaying it fully inlay it!
I had a good laugh at your expense, thanks Ben! 🤣
Another great build, if you need a new shooting board, I suggest you show us all how to make one! 😁
A chamfer on the inlay, I think would be stunning.
Either way, I am loving this build.
I think the format is cool and the top should be inlaid flush with the top. Oh! Do a vid on making a shooting board!
Goot some new wood ariving soon (im in England), from West Africa, its called Obeche.. its very soft, you can put holes in it by looking at it, but its got this interlocking grain that doesnt bend much. only 25mm x 12cm, x80cm, not much, but its enough to build a one-piece electric baritone ukulele. wish me luck!
My preference is to fully inlay the top. Thanks for the laugh, that's called a senior moment where I come from😂
I like to watch your vids for the quality of info you give but also for the comical aspects of it as well. 🤣
I love using hand tools, like that industrial belt sander...
That was hilarious! Mostly because I have done it, and worse, like cutting the top backwards so it didn't fit the body...
yes on format, & thank you for including mistakes!
I like the idea of small bite size episodes, especially if it’s to be a “wisdom of the commons” build, But to be really effective that way would take months, or a release every few hours! so for this one crack on in 3 or 4 videos.
Excellent as always! My vote would be to inlay it flat, no explicit bevel.
I'd just embrace the ebonizer and get out the vinegar and steel... recommended it to another guy recently one a one piece to make a false fretboard and sealed it all in CA.. OMG it looks good
I am sooooooooo waiting on the hand tool travel guitar. I want that one! LOL
Mornin. Really loved the video and that you didn’t edit out the error sorry but I laughed out loud purely because I’ve been there too many times! Birmingham effect😂
Love the format. It would be great if there was some sort of index so we can access the various processes. I watch most of the videos but then spend time thinking’ wee was that video about be 21:16 Neck carving or colouring ?’
Love it
I hate typing on phones!!!
I'n my humble but possibly warped opinion a through neck SG with Firebird style wings (but unlike a Firebird it's a smooth carve down to the 'wings')
With a trio of mini humbuckers (though P90s are a good option)
I can't wait to win this guitar!😆
You just have to do a purple burst on that gorgeous flame
The shorter format revolving around one step is great, but I'd be hard pressed to call this "focused".
Not that I would be any less scattered, myself.
I think the micro bevel would detract from the clean look you would get with the fully inlaid top.
I like the current 20-30+ min format myself..
I think less is more. Simple elegance
Is it just me or was the SA accent stronger then usual today? Maybe its the nicer weather 😂
Happens to the best of us:)
looks purty as it is!
I think in reality, a shorter format will break it down into sections that suit your attention span, no disrespect meant. That would make me happier knowing that you're comfortable. What could shock us, I wander??! ( A massive truck mud flap lady silhouette, in paisley pattern? lol)
I would say that the occasional very-short video on a single topic might be appropriate, they should generally be 15 to 30 minutes.
i think the idea of smaller videos for the benefit of being honed in on more specific educational content is a good idea, however i don't necessarily think it should take the place of longer form videos as a whole... i feel like 20 - 25 minutes is really the sweet spot when it comes to length for "longer videos" and then if there's a topic in particular that requires more of a narrowed focus then maybe that would be fitting more of a shorter span video... for example, during a full build series regular 20 - 25 minute videos show casing content much like what was shown in this video would be fitting, then when getting to a part of the build such as the correct method for gluing, clamping and smaller aspects of the build that don't require as much on camera attention could be cut down and compiled into shorter format videos for the purpose of education over entertainment... that aside, personally i love the longer format videos and getting to see the mistakes, transparency and the human side behind the company...
Will you fine folk be making any bass stuff this year? Not a build, necessarily (which would be awesome) but templates and kits? You cater so much to guitars, but every band with a guitar player in it almost certainly has a bass player as well, and besides the odd pick up routing template you have very little for us. Templates for the classics like P, J, MM or something extra cool like Dingwall or Strandberg would be a magnificent addition to your line up. Have you ever thought about doing a Strandberg style headless build?
partially inlayed with the bevel would be very cool
Oh, Ben... Are you moving too fast for your own good again?
Educational video series: I would recommend a dedicated series to detail each step of the most common designs. Then you only need to do detailed videos whenever you do something particularly custom.
I agree, the back side of the top is going to finish much nicer.
Its interesting what you said about bleeding of the tannins from the redwood into the glue joint. Ive got a nice bit of figured redwood, so do you think epoxy might be a better option for a drop-top?
I was like "what's with the countdown is he using some kind of fast ass glue?.... Oh😅"
Minute 09:30 - Directed by Robert B Weide.
The neck, are you going for a later, bigger tenon or the 61/62 short (and better IMHO) heel?
Did you use a joiner on the top before sketching out the body lines? Wont the lines move when planed/joined in the middle?
Dont feel bad. Once, changing a thermostat in a car, I put it all back together, new seal too, and look over on my bench and theres the new thermostat!
Id go with a fully inlaid flush top.
What about going for a Fender-style bridge? I never liked the inferior Tune O Matic.
Hey Ben. How about a little Change to the Build ? ( Fans please let’s add a third Pickup too this Build? ) Ben how About a third pickup to the Build ?
Matt at Texas Toast guitars says "Use masking tape like someone else is paying for it"!
I would really inlay the top flush , I think the simplicity would beat the double bevel. I also really don't like the look of a double bevel
I’ve actually glued things show side DOWN before and not noticed til the glue kicked. Gutted.
Quick question, why did you draw out the top before planing the joint?
0:14 "These blast points, too accurate for Sand People. Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise."🔫
Personally, I like the longer videos... All good though
Is the glue used by luthiers eco-friendly? We seem to waste an awful lot.
17:18 Funny, I was just wondering whether you had forgotten the hand tool build (which I have been following avidly) or whether it was just procrastination!
Planing the joint AFTER tracing the outline? (EDIT - obviously not the final outline, duh)
I know I’m the dork who started the SG bandwagon rolling, but I’m not leaning pro inlaid top. I think it will look like a bougier version of what the Epiphone SG’s look like with the ribbon mahogany veneers on the top and back. And personally, I’ve always found the way those veneers stop at the angles of the top and back very distracting and off putting to the SG’s look.
That being said, I’ll be very happy if I’m proven wrong, that would be more than ok with me. Personally I’d have loved to see a thicker redwood SG top like an SG Supreme, because I’m a bougie princess. Lol
Crimson website seems to be down....
Bun, you and focused don't belong in the same sentence. Let alone in the same video. But I jest, your meds must have kicked in and it shows. The format is perfect. A smaller focused video works very well.
I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time. Thanks Ben, I needed that. 🫶