I had one of the 372wh models a few years ago. After about 10 full charge cycles it would no longer charge through USB, DC, or AC. I emailed them about it and never got a response. It was only a few months old and ordered directly from their site. Their products look great, have great features, and are very affordable but they're a shady company. I'm not just basing this off of my experience either. I have read this about Allpowers many times over the years. They've also been known to go radio silent after getting funding on some of their Kickstarter projects. Still a great review as usual, Jason.
These power stations slowly get to the point of beating DIY on cost alone. 2x 100ah 12v battery in parallel, boost converter, 1200 watt mppt, shunt and battery monitor, fuse, cables, plus a 20amp cigarette lighter socket will set me back about $700 and that’s just to have an expansion battery of 2500 wh and fixing that low dc output. This unit is only $200 more expensive. It’s good, but for that category the BLUETTI ac200L is my favorite. In the 3kwh+ category I take the delta pro. In the 1kwh category I’m not sure yet.
Great review, great price! Even in Euro's [also 999]. One thing I would like to point out....to bad most of the discount codes don't work for European viewers/models. But I guess that's not up to Jason to deside. It would be nice though!
You test everything on these units! (I love seeing the new USBc tester) Mind blown, Jason. The pricing is really good on this unit. I also love the 150v solar input. This one seems pretty capable. The one thing that bugs me is the inverter voltage and background power usage. I guess that's a tradeoff for the price savings! Thank you for an awesome video!
Incredible review, Jason. Nobody on the internet provides so much detail. This is the channel to go to for real information on solar and power stations. I'm not even in the market for this product, but if I was starting out again, I would probably buy this unit. The price is incredible, and it has enough features to get into this field. I have the Bluetti 200 Max which I have connected all day every day. It just runs perfectly along with my office cooler the Explorer Bear which I think I bought on your review info. Thanks again for showing us all the features of these various products and taking the time to do such a thorough job of making sure the product specs are as advertised.
I have a question about the charge controller on this vs the Oupes mega 2. This has up to 150V and 20A(even though it says 13A on the port cover) and 1000W, whereas the Oupes has up to 150V and only 15A yet claims 2100W. Where do these W figures come from, and how can they be so different?
Nice and very thorough review. A nice feature is the 150 VDC solar / DC input, which would allow you to hook up two of the 5KWhr server rack batteries in series giving you a cheap 10KWhr expansion (at 1KW per hour). The power station market is getting quite crowded and very competitive. It really shows that a 5KW split phase setup should be around $2K or less and not the $5k or more that they are. The Anker F3800 came close (at the kickstarter price) but now it's back to up around $4K when not on sale and it has some glaring omissions . Well, we can hope:)
That Anker F3800 had HUGE potential to change the market. If they do a second generation device and made a couple changes it would be a game changer! - allow for 250v DC input - allow full passthrough charging The split phase units seem to get a bit complicated and more advanced engineering is required.
Using a ChargerLab KM003C, you can test the charging voltages, amperages, and protocols supported by the USB ports. To check if a port supports PD 3.1 140W, use a 240W EPR cable. The KM003C will also show whether a port supports PPS, which is important for fast charging Android phones. Power the KM003C with a separate charger through its HID port.
Another great review! This.unit looks ok, but I srill have my heart set on the Pecron E1500. Reasons, all connections are on the front good for tight spaces, efficient dc circuits and 30 amp dc output! Great for a diesel heater...
The basic equation for power is volts X amps = watts. When you have appliances that are designed to run off the full 120v, they will run at a lower power level @ 110v. For example, a saw won't have as much power to cut as it would if it was running at 120v.
They must have changed the design I have a1yr old r2500 and the solar and ac input access door is on the back left side. I'm in Canada so the 110v is what we have here. No issues so far
@@Jasonoid does it have the extra battery inputs< Of course the batteries have not been available yet and might never be. lol For my use I prefer my model with the door at the back. I don't like any side connections because of where I keep it.
What a great video ...again! Thank you Jason. This is a great little unit and checks a lot of boxes for me, especially the RV plug it has. Wish my Delta Max 2000 had that plug. I do love the solar input, it has 150 volts max another thing lacking with my power banks only having 60V max. The deal breakers for me, are two. First, though it has great solar input, from now on I am only going to buy units that have dual solar input ports so that I can get maximum use of my two 160W and two 220W solar panels , and second, the 112 VAC is a little concerning for me. I know that with my Delta Max 2000 my volts remain consistent and using a dog bone adapter from 30 amp to 15amp, I did a test on my Class B RV to see if it would run the 13,500 btu A/C. I use a watchdog surge protector and through the watchdog app I am able to see the draw it has when you first start the a/c. You have to start it on low fan, than high fan wait a minute, then you can switch to low cool, wait another minute then switch to high cool. What I learned that doing it this way it kept the amps below 15 amps which prevents the breaker from tripping. My Delta Max 2000 will run the a/c without a soft start , and I don't know if the low voltage of the all powers would, but it does have a 20 amp out put which is nice. I do have to make sure the fridge is off and all the lights, once things have settled I can turn on the fridge and the lights and usually I'm using around 11 to 13 amps. Like I said just tested it for a few hours out of curiosity and it worked. Now I think I will buy a soft start called active start I can connect straight to the RV plug and my power bank and not the a/c. After seeing you connect the EG4 battery it would be a great way to expand the capacity of my Delta Max 2000 another 3 to 4 hours, especially at the campsite that we frequent by the beach where they have quiet hours. As alway, I am very grateful for your hard work. I have begun to accumulate certain testers that I see that you have and am learning from you. Do you have a link for that usb tester?
Great review. I like a number of feature on this budget power station; however, the weak inverter is an issue. I guess if you plug it directly into the power station you could get by but if you are connecting it to a transfer switch and the current is traveling a distance over many feet of wire, you’ll lose even more wattage. I wish the manufacturers of the budget brands would just get on board and do the 120 or as close as possible. The low wattage is a no go for me.
Most are going up to 120v. There are just a few straglers on the 110v train...Maybe in the future they will all be at 120vac on the inverters! Thanks Noel for your feedback
Will you be doing a review for the Etaker m2000? The price per wh, size, and weight are all interesting. I’d love to see your take on the unit. Thank you
Thanks for the review! A different reviewer (Cleanerwatt) had noted that it did not handle large inductive loads. I saw it did ok with the Royobi Saw, but what about something larger? Have you tried running something like a 5 hp compressor with it? (That would be a fairly large inductive load, and about as big as a standard receptacle could handle).
Curious to know if this unit's DC output is strong enough to power the slides in my RV. I don't think the slides can be powered by AC alone. Considering this unit and the newest version of Pecron's E2000LFP as it now has the coveted "30a" RV plug built into it.
This unit has been on the market awhile now and still no expansion battery for the R2500 or 1500 only the 3500. There is not even a mention on their website of "coming soon" or anything
Fantastic review, thankyou for your time and effort making the video. 1 question, as I have since purchased the r2500 following on from your review. I have connected it to my 2x (425w) solar panels, like your 3 panels in the video and if I do not pull the xt60 plug out in the evening I find I get clicking noises when the watts drop to 0? Hence I have not been leaving it in as concerned I might damage the unit? Does your model do this also and am i worrying unnecessarily? Thankyou again for your time and great content. Best wishes from the UK! Jason.
The clicking noises are coming from the solar charging relays. They will turn on and off during low light conditions. It should be fine to leave the solar panels connected all the time and you won't see permanent damage.
I really like that solar input voltage. I would like if it was a little more efficient on the inverter and the ac voltage output was a bit higher. Wouldn't really matter until a power outage or if you are not charging it all the time with solar. Definitely not the worst. I probably would not want it in the same room with me based on the fan noise.
i plan to buy allpowers R2500. The specification says 1000w maximum. How is it possible that you have 3x400w panels connected? Can it reduce itself to 1000w? Thank you for answer.
I over paneled the power station in the video with 1200 watts so in real world conditions I will see the full 1000w more often. The power station will limit the input to 1000w automatically. Most important note is that you never want to go over the max input voltage, that will damage the charger.
Super solid offering from all powers. Although the design is nice, it feels bloated. Lol. I have an r1500 that has voltage leaking at its ac input. Haven't tested the replacement yet.
It's a bit bloated for sure, same height as other models but the depth is SUPER big. Decent performance overall. I never touched the AC input to test for shocking.
Hi can you tellme of i let the ac cable connected It Always try ti recharge gathering 1000w from the grid and if Is possibile to pririty solar battery and After grid likes PV priority bluetti? Thks
Yeah, it's for convenience. I'd rather have a built in 'dog bone' that takes up 1 outlet vs having to haul around more stuff. The 4 other outlets give plenty of options to connect.
I thought this was a pretty good deal with the discount code so I picked one up; the unit is mostly "performing as advertised" but I've run into several quirks which I'm waiting to hear back on. When the unit reaches 100% charge (by either AC and/or solar) and running a 200 Watt load it will trip off the AC and present a E202 error code. (Which is not listed in the manual) It also hits a solar charging rate plateau of around 200 Watts when starting in the morning even though 600+ Watts are eventually available. Unplugging the array and restarting the charging will then get it to the full 600+ W. Lastly, the app is problematic, Bluetooth works sometimes and WiFi never, won't refresh and more often than not can't recognize the unit when trying to reboot it.
@@ingevansand9180 yes they replaced the unit and offered an extra year to the warranty. There were quite a few steps to getting this done but they came through. There are language/time zone matters to deal with.
I bought an AllPowers S200 power station & Rcvd on 4-27-'24 . Was Non-Op & I e-mailed AllPowers with requested video of failure = 'will send return label when application is approved' . . . ? ? That was 5-5-2024 . No Response since. Have e-mailed 4 times since that I am 'waiting for the return label' . . . . no response. SO , maybe they will read this comment and 'wake - up' before I start an e-mail campaign to alert others of their poor warranty support . . . . . . ? Of course this is only just over a month old of no response but then there are others like @Bamabrute85 below . . . . . . am hoping they come around before I begin to dump on their parade. I do enjoy your reviews ! take care, rh
I had one of the 372wh models a few years ago. After about 10 full charge cycles it would no longer charge through USB, DC, or AC. I emailed them about it and never got a response. It was only a few months old and ordered directly from their site.
Their products look great, have great features, and are very affordable but they're a shady company. I'm not just basing this off of my experience either. I have read this about Allpowers many times over the years. They've also been known to go radio silent after getting funding on some of their Kickstarter projects.
Still a great review as usual, Jason.
Thank you for sharing your feedback! I'd hope that is not a common issue at all. That's horrible!
You summed it up perfectly about Allpowers.
These power stations slowly get to the point of beating DIY on cost alone.
2x 100ah 12v battery in parallel, boost converter, 1200 watt mppt, shunt and battery monitor, fuse, cables, plus a 20amp cigarette lighter socket will set me back about $700 and that’s just to have an expansion battery of 2500 wh and fixing that low dc output.
This unit is only $200 more expensive.
It’s good, but for that category the BLUETTI ac200L is my favorite.
In the 3kwh+ category I take the delta pro. In the 1kwh category I’m not sure yet.
Great review, great price! Even in Euro's [also 999]. One thing I would like to point out....to bad most of the discount codes don't work for European viewers/models. But I guess that's not up to Jason to deside. It would be nice though!
Wow, $999 Euros! That's great!
You test everything on these units! (I love seeing the new USBc tester) Mind blown, Jason. The pricing is really good on this unit. I also love the 150v solar input. This one seems pretty capable. The one thing that bugs me is the inverter voltage and background power usage. I guess that's a tradeoff for the price savings! Thank you for an awesome video!
Incredible review, Jason. Nobody on the internet provides so much detail. This is the channel to go to for real information on solar and power stations. I'm not even in the market for this product, but if I was starting out again, I would probably buy this unit. The price is incredible, and it has enough features to get into this field. I have the Bluetti 200 Max which I have connected all day every day. It just runs perfectly along with my office cooler the Explorer Bear which I think I bought on your review info. Thanks again for showing us all the features of these various products and taking the time to do such a thorough job of making sure the product specs are as advertised.
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback, Jeff!
Thanks for a great review Jason.
This was an awesome in depth review, your videos cover so much information it’s crazy
Many many tests! Testing and testing and testing! ha
Good comprehensive review.
I have a question about the charge controller on this vs the Oupes mega 2.
This has up to 150V and 20A(even though it says 13A on the port cover) and 1000W, whereas the Oupes has up to 150V and only 15A yet claims 2100W. Where do these W figures come from, and how can they be so different?
Nice and very thorough review. A nice feature is the 150 VDC solar / DC input, which would allow you to hook up two of the 5KWhr server rack batteries in series giving you a cheap 10KWhr expansion (at 1KW per hour). The power station market is getting quite crowded and very competitive. It really shows that a 5KW split phase setup should be around $2K or less and not the $5k or more that they are. The Anker F3800 came close (at the kickstarter price) but now it's back to up around $4K when not on sale and it has some glaring omissions . Well, we can hope:)
That Anker F3800 had HUGE potential to change the market. If they do a second generation device and made a couple changes it would be a game changer!
- allow for 250v DC input
- allow full passthrough charging
The split phase units seem to get a bit complicated and more advanced engineering is required.
when the AC inverter is enabled, having that fan constantly running, will definitely cut run time down, as the fan serves as a parasitic load.
Good point, those fans could use an additional 2 to 3 watts of power which would definitely add up over time.
I assume 'fan running all the time when AC inverter is on' causing relatively high power draw in idle state when AC is on
The fan probably uses 3 to 4 watts. The inverter will use much more power while sitting idle.
Using a ChargerLab KM003C, you can test the charging voltages, amperages, and protocols supported by the USB ports. To check if a port supports PD 3.1 140W, use a 240W EPR cable. The KM003C will also show whether a port supports PPS, which is important for fast charging Android phones. Power the KM003C with a separate charger through its HID port.
I did.
Another great review! This.unit looks ok, but I srill have my heart set on the Pecron E1500. Reasons, all connections are on the front good for tight spaces, efficient dc circuits and 30 amp dc output! Great for a diesel heater...
Get the pecron. I have e3000, e2000lfp and e1500lfp. Allpowers sucks. Had 3 and 2 were DOA 3rd one only has a 65% AC efficiency rate
What is the implication of having inverter providing only 112V? Are there appliances that would struggle as a result? Thanks.
The basic equation for power is volts X amps = watts. When you have appliances that are designed to run off the full 120v, they will run at a lower power level @ 110v.
For example, a saw won't have as much power to cut as it would if it was running at 120v.
They must have changed the design I have a1yr old r2500 and the solar and ac input access door is on the back left side. I'm in Canada so the 110v is what we have here. No issues so far
I was looking at the information on their website and I noticed that. This one is the newer V2 design I guess!
@@Jasonoid does it have the extra battery inputs< Of course the batteries have not been available yet and might never be. lol For my use I prefer my model with the door at the back. I don't like any side connections because of where I keep it.
What a great video ...again! Thank you Jason. This is a great little unit and checks a lot of boxes for me, especially the RV plug it has. Wish my Delta Max 2000 had that plug. I do love the solar input, it has 150 volts max another thing lacking with my power banks only having 60V max. The deal breakers for me, are two. First, though it has great solar input, from now on I am only going to buy units that have dual solar input ports so that I can get maximum use of my two 160W and two 220W solar panels , and second, the 112 VAC is a little concerning for me.
I know that with my Delta Max 2000 my volts remain consistent and using a dog bone adapter from 30 amp to 15amp, I did a test on my Class B RV to see if it would run the 13,500 btu A/C. I use a watchdog surge protector and through the watchdog app I am able to see the draw it has when you first start the a/c. You have to start it on low fan, than high fan wait a minute, then you can switch to low cool, wait another minute then switch to high cool. What I learned that doing it this way it kept the amps below 15 amps which prevents the breaker from tripping.
My Delta Max 2000 will run the a/c without a soft start , and I don't know if the low voltage of the all powers would, but it does have a 20 amp out put which is nice. I do have to make sure the fridge is off and all the lights, once things have settled I can turn on the fridge and the lights and usually I'm using around 11 to 13 amps. Like I said just tested it for a few hours out of curiosity and it worked. Now I think I will buy a soft start called active start I can connect straight to the RV plug and my power bank and not the a/c. After seeing you connect the EG4 battery it would be a great way to expand the capacity of my Delta Max 2000 another 3 to 4 hours, especially at the campsite that we frequent by the beach where they have quiet hours.
As alway, I am very grateful for your hard work. I have begun to accumulate certain testers that I see that you have and am learning from you. Do you have a link for that usb tester?
Excellent feedback on getting that AC to run on the Delta 2000. I'm sure that will help others that are interested in doing the same thing!
I would love to see a review of the VDLPOWER to see how it compares. Trying to pick between these. Allpower vs VDLPOWER
Had the R1500 for months and hasn't missed a beat. It seems quieter than the R2500 and much easier to carry.
Great review. I like a number of feature on this budget power station; however, the weak inverter is an issue. I guess if you plug it directly into the power station you could get by but if you are connecting it to a transfer switch and the current is traveling a distance over many feet of wire, you’ll lose even more wattage. I wish the manufacturers of the budget brands would just get on board and do the 120 or as close as possible. The low wattage is a no go for me.
Most are going up to 120v. There are just a few straglers on the 110v train...Maybe in the future they will all be at 120vac on the inverters! Thanks Noel for your feedback
Will you be doing a review for the Etaker m2000? The price per wh, size, and weight are all interesting. I’d love to see your take on the unit. Thank you
Thanks Jason. Not going to invest in this with the 112, constant fan drain and sound.
Excellent feedback! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Thanks for the review!
A different reviewer (Cleanerwatt) had noted that it did not handle large inductive loads. I saw it did ok with the Royobi Saw, but what about something larger? Have you tried running something like a 5 hp compressor with it? (That would be a fairly large inductive load, and about as big as a standard receptacle could handle).
That ryobi saw is the largest inductive load that I have (other than a table saw which no power station can handle).
Wondering about how much you have researched the R2500 as External batteries haven't been produced yet.
They told me the product is in the works. They R3500 expansion battery is the first one they released.
Curious to know if this unit's DC output is strong enough to power the slides in my RV. I don't think the slides can be powered by AC alone. Considering this unit and the newest version of Pecron's E2000LFP as it now has the coveted "30a" RV plug built into it.
I would recommend the Pecron E3600 if you were going to go with a Pecron model. Do you know how much power those slides pull?
@@Jasonoid i haven't put a MM on it yet. But I'm going to wait for Black Friday deals. The Oupes mega 2 and 3 look good, as well
This unit has been on the market awhile now and still no expansion battery for the R2500 or 1500 only the 3500. There is not even a mention on their website of "coming soon" or anything
I saw that, I'm still waiting on info from their dev team on information about that. I was hoping to include that in the video!
Fantastic review, thankyou for your time and effort making the video. 1 question, as I have since purchased the r2500 following on from your review. I have connected it to my 2x (425w) solar panels, like your 3 panels in the video and if I do not pull the xt60 plug out in the evening I find I get clicking noises when the watts drop to 0? Hence I have not been leaving it in as concerned I might damage the unit? Does your model do this also and am i worrying unnecessarily? Thankyou again for your time and great content. Best wishes from the UK! Jason.
The clicking noises are coming from the solar charging relays. They will turn on and off during low light conditions. It should be fine to leave the solar panels connected all the time and you won't see permanent damage.
@@Jasonoid Thanks for replying, really appreciate it and thanks for putting my mind at ease.
nice review. please consider reviewing anker x1 home system. thanks!!
I definitely don't have room for that system! It's huge
I was considering purchasing this unit, but the 112 VAC caused me to rethink my decision.
That's definitely one of the downsides
@@JasonoidWHAT is 112 VAC sorry for lot of questions
@@ondralaufek3141 your house power is 120v, this puts out 112v. Some appliances will not have as much power due to the lower voltage drop
Have you done a review on the Allpowers r1500 1800 watt yet?
Nope, just this unit for now.
@@Jasonoidwould be very interesting review of R1500 also. Just brought it and thinking it was good decision for this money?!
I really like that solar input voltage. I would like if it was a little more efficient on the inverter and the ac voltage output was a bit higher. Wouldn't really matter until a power outage or if you are not charging it all the time with solar. Definitely not the worst. I probably would not want it in the same room with me based on the fan noise.
Great feedback, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
i plan to buy allpowers R2500. The specification says 1000w maximum. How is it possible that you have 3x400w panels connected? Can it reduce itself to 1000w? Thank you for answer.
I over paneled the power station in the video with 1200 watts so in real world conditions I will see the full 1000w more often. The power station will limit the input to 1000w automatically. Most important note is that you never want to go over the max input voltage, that will damage the charger.
@@Jasonoid Thank you for answer ❤️ can you send me yours panel? Thanks
Is there?
A way to connect the e.G four battery so you don't have to buy a separate charger
I connect a 48v @ 22:55
@@Jasonoid Trying to charge for free without getting a separate charger using the solar generator
Super solid offering from all powers. Although the design is nice, it feels bloated. Lol.
I have an r1500 that has voltage leaking at its ac input. Haven't tested the replacement yet.
It's a bit bloated for sure, same height as other models but the depth is SUPER big. Decent performance overall. I never touched the AC input to test for shocking.
Morning to all .
Good morning!
Hi can you tellme of i let the ac cable connected It Always try ti recharge gathering 1000w from the grid and if Is possibile to pririty solar battery and After grid likes PV priority bluetti? Thks
There are no settings to have pv priority on this model, it always charges from both inputs if both are connected.
Great Review and informative as always! This looks like a great budget power station!
Thanks, Katy!
Bought the AR600 a few weeks ago, so far so good, but the app is way beyond awful and you won't know how much power it's actually consuming
I really only used the app for changing the charging and sleep settings. I didn't test much more than that. Thanks for the feedback.
A 20A limited TT-30 is just a built in dogbone, waste of a receptacle
Yeah, it's for convenience. I'd rather have a built in 'dog bone' that takes up 1 outlet vs having to haul around more stuff. The 4 other outlets give plenty of options to connect.
I thought this was a pretty good deal with the discount code so I picked one up; the unit is mostly "performing as advertised" but I've run into several quirks which I'm waiting to hear back on. When the unit reaches 100% charge (by either AC and/or solar) and running a 200 Watt load it will trip off the AC and present a E202 error code. (Which is not listed in the manual) It also hits a solar charging rate plateau of around 200 Watts when starting in the morning even though 600+ Watts are eventually available. Unplugging the array and restarting the charging will then get it to the full 600+ W. Lastly, the app is problematic, Bluetooth works sometimes and WiFi never, won't refresh and more often than not can't recognize the unit when trying to reboot it.
Did the company help you?
@@ingevansand9180 yes they replaced the unit and offered an extra year to the warranty. There were quite a few steps to getting this done but they came through. There are language/time zone matters to deal with.
Won't run a diesel heater! Won't work for my uses.
Bummer, right!?
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I bought an AllPowers S200 power station & Rcvd on 4-27-'24 . Was Non-Op & I e-mailed AllPowers with requested video of failure = 'will send return label when application is approved' . . . ? ?
That was 5-5-2024 . No Response since. Have e-mailed 4 times since that I am 'waiting for the return label' . . . . no response. SO , maybe they will read this comment and 'wake - up' before I start an e-mail campaign to alert others of their poor warranty support . . . . . . ?
Of course this is only just over a month old of no response but then there are others like @Bamabrute85 below . . . . . . am hoping they come around before I begin to dump on their parade.
I do enjoy your reviews ! take care, rh
Two bad experiences in the comments section so far! Not looking good for the reliability of their customer support.