This is definitely where Tony shines the most. He noticed that was the wrong cam just by hearing it run for 10 seconds in the previous video. The man knows his stuff.
15 minutes into the video, calling it. Sorry but that hemi is coming out and completely gone thru. You picked the right guy to go to, UTG. Mopar Master. The knowledge in his head is massive. Tony with his ocd will make sure that Hemi is PERFECT before it returns home. This is gonna be a killer series. All issues will be taken care of so it's safe and FAST!! Hi Uncle Kathy! Great shots!! Stay safe all, God Bless.🙏👍🇺🇸
I called it on the 1st GTX video.... I know cars and know how people put them together...I have been in so many 440's that performed pretty much like lean burn 318's and they were rebuilt and"built"....I have been in so many old cars/muscle cars and know what goes on.. Glad I drove/owned original,never rebuilt versions that were in perfect condition and I have a good seat of the pants sense and can tell stock from "built"or a dud..the later is usually what they are!! They have mismatched parts,wrong parts,old part with new,worn out etc...Everything lose is a good one on this GTX..
Any classic hot rod Mopar, but especially one with a HEMI, is worth whatever "trouble" one has to go to in order to get it RIGHT. Yeah, I'd yank that beautiful "Elephant" outta there and give it one thorough going-over, looking especially for cracks in the block, heads, manifolds, crank, and rods. It'd be sad to ASSUME that all's well with that engine (though at least it looks clean under the valve covers, always encouraging), and have it spin a bearing and/or send a rod through that block. Sure, you can get a reproduction as a replacement, just add money, but no matter how much dinero you put into it, it won't be the ORIGINAL engine dropped into it some 55 years ago or so in St. Louis.
The gas tank is exactly what I found with the new barn find Cuda I brought home. Rancid smell. Inches of rust. Float rolling around the bottom. Had fuel delivery problem. But why? Bingo. These videos are gold for anyone buying cars with unknown history.
Uncle T is not only a great mechanic, he’s a great Automotive Archeologist. The things you uncover and explain about classic Mopars is always a learning experience. I’ve been around cars my whole life, I’m 51 and when Uncle Tony talks, I listen. That Hemi car is awesome.
that last 30 seconds was me when I was 5 and my dad bought me a set of tools.. he slept in too late on a Saturday morning and I was out in the garage "fixing" his 67 galaxie... sorry Dad
Haha been there done that also, and now my grandson has done it to me alone with doorknobs on his bedroom door and closet with his little toolbox its put up now till we work together
Seriously man, you remind me of my father and father inlaw. Guys that could fix anything have taught me the most. You near South Carolina? I hear that accent, I'm from Upstate NJ originally.
i know its not my car... but i think it would be a good idea to pull the engine. looks like its almost ready anyway. one more comment...the working environment (the shop) is 1000 percent better then the old place!
for what was shown worth every penny start fresh in the engine so can pass car down to family member and insurance of trouble free driving. Feel for the owner but glad he brought it to UT, no more sleepless nights GTX owner was best decision made. Tony will make it sing right
Don’t be discouraged, you have to “ nut and bolt” every hot rod you purchase. I always plan new tanks,lines brakes cooling system components and pray engines and transmissions are serviceable. But it’s just so much fun pulling them apart and saying holy shit somebody’s been in here.
Tony knows so much technical info it's insane. Gotta love a guy with this level of knowledge. I'm going through the same stuff on my 54 corvette. Only enough was done to make it run
It’s a great car and it deserves to be brought back the right way, I would be a little concerned with the internals of the engine, having found everything else that’s been wrong with it . I can’t wait for the next episode. keep up the good work guys I can’t wait for the next chapter...
That’s a special car. The project is going to cost more than he expected, like all projects do. I don’t know how much he paid for the car, or how much he expected to put into it but he’s going to end up with really great car that will only go up in value. I’m looking forward to seeing the progress.
This is not a run of the mill beater. Jerk that frankenhemi out and make it right, including the block, mismatched heads and cobbed up intake. When it is completed properly you will have what the rest of the car deserves. You don’t want to be in the same position as the museum that has the hatchet that George Washington used to chop down the cherry tree, except that the handle has been changed 4 times, and the head twice..... but it’s the same one! Overall it’s so nice, leave out the “excepts” it makes for a far better description in the future, and will keep the car appreciating.
With the pedigree of this car and considering how much abuse/"rigging" they usually go through in 50+ years, I'd recommend having the heater hoses magnafluxed.
I would pull the hemi as a long-term project, and install a nice 318 in it, for the time being, so that I could take the time to build the hemi right...
Thanks guys! Amazing reality check for anyone who dreams of being a classic car owner by just "buying into" the hobby. One way or the other, you will have worked on every aspect of the car before its over. Knowledge is power and your knowledge needs to be brand / model / engine family specific, and you can only get to that level by years of experience...Tony is the MAN.
What a learning experience for all of us! Weird the engine had so many bolts not torqued at all on the accessories but only finger tight! And the gas tank! Glad you looked in it! Thanks so much for this video! Glad no one got hurt & the car didn’t get hurt from running it without these checks!
What a story. I don't know what here surprised me the most. But finger-tight nuts and bolts stands out. There's a story with that but it's a guess. I'm glad this car ended up with a car guy who can swing wrenches and that he has some money. He's smart to have UT take it on. It would be sad if this was somebody's dream car and spent out their money buying it, and thinking it just needed a few inexpensive things. Good work guys. Good work UC.
You boys are awesome. "But there Great for doing burnouts, yea oh yea we will melt them off of there". You're doing exactly what I'm working towards. Love the knowledge you have. One of the best techs I've ever known was alot like you. Thanks for the inspiration. Got a 1966 Plymouth Sport Fury in my shop now.
I expect to find these sorts of things, which is why I don't buy old cars with shiny paint and that detailer stuff sprayed all over the engine bay. I'd rather buy a rolling shell and built it my way than have to deal with what someone else might have fouled up.
While I have driven hemi cars and tuned them, I never worked on assembly or repair of one. There is so much you have shown that is totally new to me. It is very interesting relating to the peculiarities of the Hemi. This is an education video. Thank you so much for sharing this information.
Great series. Learnt some of these lessons the hard way myself. Knowing what I know today, that engine would come out and get torn down, if anything just for peace of mind. Bit of time and gaskets best case, worst case a rebuild. But still a better option than an engine grenading on the road.
Make sure your flexible rear brake hose is replaced with a new one as that could be the brake issue especially if it is original and not ever been replaced ! good work team ...
Everything about that engine bay screams "I'm tired of this project. Let's whack the engine back together with whatever parts we have under the workbench, then toss it into the car quickly and pass it all on to someone else."
@@randalljames1 I can understand that sentiment, but...even if you're doing it cheap, you still tighten up all the bolts as you go. With everything being barely finger tight in this car, it feels more "I don't care" than "I can't afford."
yea, but in the world of "mechanics" the same "I can't afford" comes with "I don't know how"... It is not lazy or incapable, just how do you build a bridge if you don't know how to build a bridge :) Perhaps you are right, just slide this crap together, we have to be out tonight.... :) regardless.. when ever a car comes in the shop that has had "previous" work done? it is SOP to check that work first (usually things to be found)
Seen worse for sure. I like when you get one where there is a huge weld in the side of the block and it cracked right next to their shitty weld. Hemis were revved to kingdom come and blown up, the guys would drop valves, throw rods and put them together with extra parts and sell them after racing them some more.
@@Digitalsharecropper If this is an actual #'s matching, original paint, 67 Hemi GTX four-speed, and he paid less than a couple hundred thousand for it. he should be happier than a pig in slop.
I grew up with DAD owning from new, a 1966 Plymouth Belvedere Station Wagon, based on the Satellite body, looking at that GTX, I see so much, the mirrors, the door handles, the gas cap, the upswept body ledge right below windows, the chrome trim pieces....so many memories.... :)
UT this is one the best overviews and videos that you have done recently, this car is fantastic as far as potential, don't tread lightly, it will be a gem with the right work. Wow!
Re that 'hogged out' intake manifold. Back in the day, that particular hemi intake mod was pioneered by NHRA hemi Super/Stock legend Arlen Vanke and became known as the 'Vanke mod' or the 'Vanke intake'. I know it would be a further deviation from stock, but considering the use of that Vanke-style intake manifold and that fact his car is also likely going to get an aftermarket solid-lifter roller cam, I think to compliment and fully optimize these first two mods, this car really deserves a set of headers, rather than reusing the stock exhaust manifolds.
That was awesome. This happens a lot . Fresh paint on an engine means just that. Take nothing for granted or face value. Can't wait to see it when this car is mechanically sound. Great video Tony 👍
What a damn good video. You are pointing out some important things to mankind. Let me point something out for you,,,,, my uncle Jim was one of the best mechanics to ever breathe air. He used to wash the grease off of his hands with gas. Lucemia is no joke. Stop needlessly contaminating yourselves with stuff like what came out of that tank. I loved and miss my uncle Jim more than anyone could ever imagine
They say you learn something new every day! I didn't know they didn't use exuast manifold gaskets! They basically mickey moused that car , like mom used to say "not everything that shines isn't gold!" Buyer beware, Good informational video uncle tony!
People forget that a car like this is more than 50 years old and was never owned by the Little Old Lady from Pasadena. Sometimes it seems like only yesterday but it isn't. Kind of amazing that parts of any kind are still available.
My dad had his 06 magnum with the heads off the other day and I helped him reassemble. Never knew what made a hemi a hemi until I saw that. It's amazing to think that that tech is so effective it's good for 50+ years of oem implementation.
Man, sad to see such an historical car in this state. Thank goodness it now has a home that will give it the attention and respect that it needs. I just hope the engine and powertrain are numbers matching.
Great video series so far. As a newbie to the Gen2 Hemi on the front steps of building my first one, this has been very enlightening. Thanks for all the info and looking forward to the rest of the project.
I'm so happy to see the way your program is evolving. In six months you'll be doing twin turbskis or ignoring hygiene like dulcic. Either way the new shop is impressive. Somebody slapped that car together to sell it
I know these two guys who were in my unit in the USAF, they had 4th gen F bodys, they put a Moser 12 bolt under one of the Camaro. One guy did the passenger side, the other did the drivers side. He had a problem with it bouncing all the time when he was driving it, so I took a look at it. The drivers side was finger tight, passenger side was tightened with the car in the air, and I swear he used a breaker bar with a jack handle on it to tighten them. Some guys don't know how tight it needs to be, or that you need to tighten suspension bolts with the vehicle weight on it. Its very rare I buy a muscle car from someone and not take it apart, unless I worked on it before I got it, like my 72 Formula. My friend who sold it to me did a lot of stupid stuff to that poor car. I will fix it all and put it back to as close to original as I can afford.. because its a numbers matching 455 HO car and they only built 276 of them in '72.
@@hendo337 the 72 is one of 11 Firebirds I own other than the 68 that is a very rusted bare shell, well whats left of it, and a 98 Formula, they are all between 71 and 79, in addition to GTOs and LeMans. You'd be interested in my brother's cars. My dad left me a 70 AAR Cuda clone, the oldest got his 426 wedge 64 Sport Fury which is a twin to the one he bought new and sold before I was born, and the brother after me got his 36 Plymouth business coupe. They they have Chargers, the oldest has a 70 383 727, the one after me has a 69 318 auto with a sure grip, and his son has a 73 Charger with a very healthy 360 stuffed in it. How I ended up a Pontiac man is a bit of a long story. The short version is I saw a blue 67 GTO in a magazine and I was hooked forever, even before I knew they hauled ass. My first car was a 67 Cougar, its sitting in my yard waiting for me to get back to it. Next year I will have owned it 40 years, and I haven't driven it since 1987. Makes me sad. I'll be making videos of the Plymouths when I go home next month, I have to move a bunch of Pontiacs off the family farm and haul them 1000 miles to where I live now. Between the brother after me and I, we own well over 100 vehicles. He has mopar I have Pontiac, Ford, chevy trucks, and some Dodge trucks. We are a gearhead family. A summer of adventure driving junk hauling junk. I need someone to drive the Cuda, would make it easier than hauling it.
UT, The consultant that gets right in there with the wrenches and lets fly. The most highly valued consultant extant! Should be a nice payday for Tony. Still a hell of a deal for the owner who gains valuable knowledge you would be hard pressed to learn by any other method.
I love the fuel tank, I usually complaining, Uncle Tony you forgot this or that, but you nailed this one on the head!! Me, EVERY lawnmower, Riding mower, car, truck, except for brand new, I drop the fuel tank and clean them out. Every one says, "just dump a can of sea foam in it and some high test gasoline, I never take off the tank. Would you drop a new electric fuel pump in that gunk??.. The fuel tank looked like new on the outside. You not gonna drive this home from Arkansas!! The only way to know is to drop and drain the tank, new fuel pump, new fuel filter, clean out the lines, rebuild the fuel system and the brakes/tie rod ends/ball joints/Idler arm, then you start on the engine. Water in the fuel is 85% of lawnmower repair.
Nice car. It should be completely gone through regardless. It's worth whatever parts you need to replace. Let's hope the block, heads and crank are in good shape.
Nice video. I like listening to guys who know what they are talking about and have a lot of real experience. The car reminds me of my second car, 1966 Dodge Coronet 440, that I bought in 1970.
Back around the early 70's I had a friend who lived down the street and was a car guy. He always had a muscle car of one kind or another. A 63 Corvette, 54 2door Belair, 36 Chevy coupe, 66 Chevelle 396, a 67 Hemi GTX. He took meticulous care of his cars and like most gear heads, we bought and sold them like baseball trading cards. He sold the GTX to someone for 10k and the guy comes back a week later and says the engine sucked a valve and I want my money back. My friend looked at him in bewilderment and said, "how is that my fault? You checked out the car and the car was running fine even when you took it for a test run." I mean, what did he expect him to do? That's what a tachometer is for or if he had some common sense.
Wow..... Who ever worked on that engine before should sell all of his tools. That gas tank was like nothing I've ever seen before ! Thanks for the video.
A lot of good information about a lot of different things to look for on these older vehicles. You can learn something by watching and paying attention.
It can be hard to prove though, margins of error for dynos can be several percent and any single modification may be gaining that much or less. In the real world where you can't easily quantify every minute detail you have to rely on common sense and experience to decide what's worth the effort. In terms of effort flipping pistons amounts to zero, so the math says literally any gain even if its not noticable is worth the effort. In the cases where flipping pistons required machine work or anything like a monetary investment I'm sure Tony would say don't bother.
@@wildrosegarage4208 on offset pins leads to egg bores, would be fine for a sleeved bore and on dyno the torque is starts early, not much increase to write home about
With wheel brake cylinders...use new ones with a new master cylinder. New rear hose , the two front hoses. Then like this car ..new stainless brake lines. Must include new rear shoes too. Those shoes you have are saturated with brake fluid. All new return springs too. Clean back plate with "Brakeclean " until spotless. Then mount brake cylinders....! Thanks Tony and helper, learned some things today !!😂
This is such an eye opener. You just never know what the last person who worked on an old classic did to the vehicle or how bad they were at home wrenching. Scary scary stuff 😱😱😱
Wow what a great video and channel. He went thru so much and I learned a lot about Hemis from this video, I knew they were complex but not like they were originally.
I'd pull that engine. if what you can get at in the chasis is like that what's to say the bottom end is much better? hard engine to replace. You only ran it for a few seconds. Oil pressure drop when it's hot? who knows?
I dump a bottle of stihl 2 cycle oil for 5 gallons in the gas on old cars. It really helps to stabilize it and to keep the tanks from rusting. It adds no visible smoke in operation.
ROLL UP YOUR CIGARETTE!!! LOL GREAT VIDEO UTG!!! HELLO ULTRA KATHY!!! Mystery solved, this engine was assembled by Brian Cabrel. I though that Lee feller looked a little squirrely!😉😉😂😂😂
Ah man, I couldn't go as far as you did on this nice of a car without totally dismantling that engine. Specially with the present discoveries. The oil pickup tube won't be the correct one, there won't be a wind tray, it'll be a high volume oil pump for the race engine but the oil won't return fast enough to reuse. How can you trust the bottom end of this engine???
I have walked away from a few, I have bought a few. But i always finish what dummies started and decided they did not know what they were doing and gave up. I love to keep old cars doing what they were made for. every day driving. Good video on what to watch for. Always try your best to get the history. Even if the seller is embarrassed. Make them comfortable so they do not feel stupid and they will tell you. If you can not get the history take all the time you need to be comfortable. If they push you to get it over with. Walk away.
What a wild card, glad its in good hands now. And that rust fuel odor, takes days to get out of system. Been there it royally sucks! Thanks for the share UTG
Any car that has been sitting more than a year is probably a good idea to be ready to replace the fuel and brake system and with the engine should be tore down and freshened up because all the seals and gaskets are probably all dried up same with transmission especially an automatic, replacing the tires is a given, but still a nice score on the car, and I almost forgot that older cars are prone to electrical problems so you did a lot of people who are not familiar with the hiccups of buying older cars that have been sitting still a really big favor with this video
Very interesting finds. Especially the racing oil dams left in the passenger-side head Crazy! Thanks for the education. Glad I found your channel. Respect from Texas.
17:20 yes I agree ,that tire is a hazard and needs to be destroyed. Put it on a beater and do a 1 wheel peel smokie until it blows. Then it's safe so nobody else can use it. There's your osha tip of the day from Mr. Hillfolk to keep others safe.
I had a buddy have a tire come apart on a chassis dyno and take out literally half of his car. Maybe use that tire on something with garbage quarters before you melt it down for smoke?
One of the sharpest Mopar shops knowledge is boundless... you guys forgot more than most wrench Jockeys know.... good vid kids ... keep your powder dry and good luck!
A friend of mine bought a 75 Sport VW Beetle and asked me to check it out and I found a Full tank in EXACTLY the same condition that on is in. I bought a 73 Karmann-Ghia and first thing I did was open the tank and it was the SAME way. If the tank is in Great shape on the outside I soak the inside with a Miratic Acid and Water mix . Let it soak for about 24 hours SLOSHING it perioticly and rince with clean WAter(THOURLY) ,then give the tank a coating of Motor oil and put it back into service.
This is the epitome of pursuing every old car guy's wistful dreams - finding a muscle car specimen that brings us back to the golden days of the American automobile. However, the passage of the ensuing 50-60 years of use/abuse/neglect will take lots of $$$ to scrape away. Time is indeed money.
I think the future of purchasing old musclecars will resemble this GTX. The bodies and interiors will be solid and beautiful, but they'll have been left to sit for so long that the mechanical bits will be a total mess of wrong parts, badly put together parts, or new looking parts that are completely hashed. I'm thinking specifically of all those old cars that have been under tarps in the back of a garage or warehouse since 1992 and whose owners are close to hitting 80. Those are all going to be on the market in the next decade when those owners pass on and those cars end up at estate auctions.
This is definitely where Tony shines the most. He noticed that was the wrong cam just by hearing it run for 10 seconds in the previous video. The man knows his stuff.
Right on! I was thinking same thing !
Yeah and when I heard him say it, I thought Oh No , this is about to get to be “A Lesson”🤨☹️
Not hard to hear whether it's a solid can or not😂
Mopar historian...
Tony knows more about all those cars than I know about my own car
THIS is WHY I WATCH YOUR CHANNEL !!! Hate it for the owner but love it for us ! Please thank him for his service ! We all thank him for his service !
Hate it for the owner?
@@importsstillsuckhe hates that the owner had the issues
15 minutes into the video, calling it. Sorry but that hemi is coming out and completely gone thru. You picked the right guy to go to, UTG. Mopar Master. The knowledge in his head is massive. Tony with his ocd will make sure that Hemi is PERFECT before it returns home. This is gonna be a killer series. All issues will be taken care of so it's safe and FAST!!
Hi Uncle Kathy! Great shots!! Stay safe all, God Bless.🙏👍🇺🇸
I called it on the 1st GTX video....
I know cars and know how people put them together...I have been in so many 440's that performed pretty much like lean burn 318's and they were rebuilt and"built"....I have been in so many old cars/muscle cars and know what goes on..
Glad I drove/owned original,never rebuilt versions that were in perfect condition and I have a good seat of the pants sense and can tell stock from "built"or a dud..the later is usually what they are!!
They have mismatched parts,wrong parts,old part with new,worn out etc...Everything lose is a good one on this GTX..
Any classic hot rod Mopar, but especially one with a HEMI, is worth whatever "trouble" one has to go to in order to get it RIGHT. Yeah, I'd yank that beautiful "Elephant" outta there and give it one thorough going-over, looking especially for cracks in the block, heads, manifolds, crank, and rods. It'd be sad to ASSUME that all's well with that engine (though at least it looks clean under the valve covers, always encouraging), and have it spin a bearing and/or send a rod through that block. Sure, you can get a reproduction as a replacement, just add money, but no matter how much dinero you put into it, it won't be the ORIGINAL engine dropped into it some 55 years ago or so in St. Louis.
The gas tank is exactly what I found with the new barn find Cuda I brought home. Rancid smell. Inches of rust. Float rolling around the bottom. Had fuel delivery problem. But why? Bingo. These videos are gold for anyone buying cars with unknown history.
Uncle Tony gets to work on a hemi that's the most important thing look how much happier he seems
change the play speed to 1.25 and Tony is even more into it :)
Uncle Tony seemed so relaxed! No cigarette anywhere in sight! It is like the Hemi is having a natural calming effect on him!
Lee looks like Uncle Tony's stunt double in that actions sequence! Come's in handy having a twin scapegoat!
No glasses. 😂
Uncle T is not only a great mechanic, he’s a great Automotive Archeologist. The things you uncover and explain about classic Mopars is always a learning experience. I’ve been around cars my whole life, I’m 51 and when Uncle Tony talks, I listen. That Hemi car is awesome.
that last 30 seconds was me when I was 5 and my dad bought me a set of tools.. he slept in too late on a Saturday morning and I was out in the garage "fixing" his 67 galaxie... sorry Dad
@John Buck hell yeah! nice car man
Haha been there done that also, and now my grandson has done it to me alone with doorknobs on his bedroom door and closet with his little toolbox its put up now till we work together
@@hendo337 lmfao!! loved it, keep it up!
@John Buck me too .. 390
Seriously man, you remind me of my father and father inlaw. Guys that could fix anything have taught me the most. You near South Carolina? I hear that accent, I'm from Upstate NJ originally.
Poor guy looks so defeated through this whole video, course then, I would be too. Keep your head up my dude, Uncle Tony will make that baby purr.
For crying out loud the man OWNS A HEMI CAR!!!
Or a look of "what else did the dumbass who put it together last screw up?" that engine bay looks like a nasty can of worms
@@chazzcoolidge2654 definitely a look of "what (expletives deleted) moron put this together?!?"
It's just money. lol Bad surprises suck and even more when you paid a lot and realize you are far from done paying.
@@RiverRat-2112 it's still a matter of "holy shit, I wasn't planning on a full teardown of this car, but now if I don't I will never trust it!"
i know its not my car... but i think it would be a good idea to pull the engine. looks like its almost ready anyway.
one more comment...the working environment (the shop) is 1000 percent better then the old place!
for what was shown worth every penny start fresh in the engine so can pass car down to family member and insurance of trouble free driving. Feel for the owner but glad he brought it to UT, no more sleepless nights GTX owner was best decision made. Tony will make it sing right
If that’s a real HEMI car it deserves the love. Even if it’s not matching #’s.
It’s still a HEMI and it’s gonna make great content for the channel! 😎
@@hendo337 "patina" is a fancy word for "unrepaired rust". I really hope you're planning on doing major cleanup and rust repair on that body!
@@hendo337 ah, gotcha!
Yes, make this a driver. And see if you can get the man to unclench about that 442, cars need to be driven!
Thanks UT&Crew, a good deal of prime information.
Uncle Tony is a National treasure. An artist who works with vehicles.
Yes, he’s a real treasure!!
Don’t be discouraged, you have to “ nut and bolt” every hot rod you purchase. I always plan new tanks,lines brakes cooling system components and pray engines and transmissions are serviceable. But it’s just so much fun pulling them apart and saying holy shit somebody’s been in here.
Tony knows so much
technical info it's insane. Gotta love a guy with this level of knowledge. I'm going through the same stuff on my 54 corvette. Only enough was done to make it run
i just subcribed to your channel as well.
After finding all that I could not NOT pull the entire engine down now and bang on the engine with confidence knowing all is as it should be.
Yup! I would totally be rebuilding the engine at this point.
Some brain donor slapped this thing together and shit it out the door.
@@ScottKenny1978I would say a very smart man and crook put that together.
No way I'd run that engine without taking it completely apart, just to be sure no ugly suprises are there.
Ditto!
With what has been found so far, I would tear it down.
No sense in not going through EVERYTHING at this point.
It’s a great car and it deserves to be brought back the right way, I would be a little concerned with the internals of the engine, having found everything else that’s been wrong with it . I can’t wait for the next episode. keep up the good work guys I can’t wait for the next chapter...
I love the fact that you mentioned by name, the infamous old shade tree mechanics names, Gaaak & Schmutz!
Oh, mechanics? I thought they were a law firm.
No choice, pull the motor, redo, live happy. GO ARMY!
Hey Uncle Tony, much love & appreciations. THANKS TO YOU ALL!!
A VERY educational piece. Unless you did it yourself you don't know what your getting. Great job Tony!
Mike
The joy of old cars...many owners and many hands on the pieces. Nothing you two can't handle. Good stuff.
Uncle Tony is on the ball! With old cars, many people of differing capacity wrenched on them by the time you find them!
That’s a special car. The project is going to cost more than he expected, like all projects do. I don’t know how much he paid for the car, or how much he expected to put into it but he’s going to end up with really great car that will only go up in value. I’m looking forward to seeing the progress.
From everything you found, I would take the time to pull the heads and check them for cracks.
Absolutely! A full tear down at this point. Trust nothing on this car.
This is not a run of the mill beater. Jerk that frankenhemi out and make it right, including the block, mismatched heads and cobbed up intake. When it is completed properly you will have what the rest of the car deserves. You don’t want to be in the same position as the museum that has the hatchet that George Washington used to chop down the cherry tree, except that the handle has been changed 4 times, and the head twice..... but it’s the same one!
Overall it’s so nice, leave out the “excepts” it makes for a far better description in the future, and will keep the car appreciating.
With the pedigree of this car and considering how much abuse/"rigging" they usually go through in 50+ years, I'd recommend having the heater hoses magnafluxed.
@@easygoing2479 lol!
I would pull the hemi as a long-term project, and install a nice 318 in it, for the time being, so that I could take the time to build the hemi right...
Thanks guys! Amazing reality check for anyone who dreams of being a classic car owner by just "buying into" the hobby. One way or the other, you will have worked on every aspect of the car before its over. Knowledge is power and your knowledge needs to be brand / model / engine family specific, and you can only get to that level by years of experience...Tony is the MAN.
What a learning experience for all of us! Weird the engine had so many bolts not torqued at all on the accessories but only finger tight! And the gas tank! Glad you looked in it! Thanks so much for this video! Glad no one got hurt & the car didn’t get hurt from running it without these checks!
This is why UTG is one of the best channels on TH-cam, it's the education you receive from watching!
Looking forward to seeing uncle Tony help this guy get this car back on the road . Can't wait to see the finished car.
What a story. I don't know what here surprised me the most. But finger-tight nuts and bolts stands out. There's a story with that but it's a guess. I'm glad this car ended up with a car guy who can swing wrenches and that he has some money. He's smart to have UT take it on. It would be sad if this was somebody's dream car and spent out their money buying it, and thinking it just needed a few inexpensive things. Good work guys. Good work UC.
You boys are awesome. "But there Great for doing burnouts, yea oh yea we will melt them off of there". You're doing exactly what I'm working towards. Love the knowledge you have. One of the best techs I've ever known was alot like you.
Thanks for the inspiration. Got a 1966 Plymouth Sport Fury in my shop now.
The more I watch UT, the more I realize he’s one of the most intelligent dudes I’ve ever “met.” And humble about it.
Perfect lesson, “Buyer Beware”, thanks for the instructional video
I expect to find these sorts of things, which is why I don't buy old cars with shiny paint and that detailer stuff sprayed all over the engine bay. I'd rather buy a rolling shell and built it my way than have to deal with what someone else might have fouled up.
While I have driven hemi cars and tuned them, I never worked on assembly or repair of one.
There is so much you have shown that is totally new to me.
It is very interesting relating to the peculiarities of the Hemi. This is an education video.
Thank you so much for sharing this information.
Great series. Learnt some of these lessons the hard way myself.
Knowing what I know today, that engine would come out and get torn down, if anything just for peace of mind. Bit of time and gaskets best case, worst case a rebuild.
But still a better option than an engine grenading on the road.
lol killer ending!! it's going to be great when it's all sorted out. You're in good company Andy, and thank you for your service!
Love it when u make these look what’s hiding videos!! Great video!!
Excellent show guys! Lots of information and insight without temper tantrums and fake manufactured drama. Very refreshing!!!
Make sure your flexible rear brake hose is replaced with a new one as that could be the brake issue especially if it is original and not ever been replaced ! good work team ...
Everything about that engine bay screams "I'm tired of this project. Let's whack the engine back together with whatever parts we have under the workbench, then toss it into the car quickly and pass it all on to someone else."
Guess I don't have to leave that comment:)
Exactly!
usually more along the lines of "I can't afford to have it fixed right" hehehe
@@randalljames1 I can understand that sentiment, but...even if you're doing it cheap, you still tighten up all the bolts as you go. With everything being barely finger tight in this car, it feels more "I don't care" than "I can't afford."
yea, but in the world of "mechanics" the same "I can't afford" comes with "I don't know how"... It is not lazy or incapable, just how do you build a bridge if you don't know how to build a bridge :)
Perhaps you are right, just slide this crap together, we have to be out tonight.... :) regardless.. when ever a car comes in the shop that has had "previous" work done? it is SOP to check that work first (usually things to be found)
UT's knowledge of Hemi's is unmatched
I like the direction your channel has taken since moving into the new shop. Great post. 👍
Man, the owner looks bummed. Condolences dude.
Seen worse for sure. I like when you get one where there is a huge weld in the side of the block and it cracked right next to their shitty weld. Hemis were revved to kingdom come and blown up, the guys would drop valves, throw rods and put them together with extra parts and sell them after racing them some more.
@@Digitalsharecropper If this is an actual #'s matching, original paint, 67 Hemi GTX four-speed, and he paid less than a couple hundred thousand for it. he should be happier than a pig in slop.
It would be interesting to know how Andy found it and what he paid for it.
This is one the most informative shows you've done, good on you !
I grew up with DAD owning from new, a 1966 Plymouth Belvedere Station Wagon, based on the Satellite body, looking at that GTX, I see so much, the mirrors, the door handles, the gas cap, the upswept body ledge right below windows, the chrome trim pieces....so many memories.... :)
UT this is one the best overviews and videos that you have done recently, this car is fantastic as far as potential, don't tread lightly, it will be a gem with the right work. Wow!
Re that 'hogged out' intake manifold. Back in the day, that particular hemi intake mod was pioneered by NHRA hemi Super/Stock legend Arlen Vanke and became known as the 'Vanke mod' or the 'Vanke intake'. I know it would be a further deviation from stock, but considering the use of that Vanke-style intake manifold and that fact his car is also likely going to get an aftermarket solid-lifter roller cam, I think to compliment and fully optimize these first two mods, this car really deserves a set of headers, rather than reusing the stock exhaust manifolds.
Videos like this teach me why I have no business actually owning one of my dream vehicles.
That was awesome. This happens a lot . Fresh paint on an engine means just that. Take nothing for granted or face value. Can't wait to see it when this car is mechanically sound. Great video Tony 👍
What a damn good video. You are pointing out some important things to mankind. Let me point something out for you,,,,, my uncle Jim was one of the best mechanics to ever breathe air. He used to wash the grease off of his hands with gas. Lucemia is no joke. Stop needlessly contaminating yourselves with stuff like what came out of that tank. I loved and miss my uncle Jim more than anyone could ever imagine
This is going to be a very informative series....sorry for all your troubles with your car and thank you for sharing the journey to repair with us
And well done for doing this together. Tag teaming on video presenting can be tricky, but you did it perfectly in realtime.
They say you learn something new every day! I didn't know they didn't use exuast manifold gaskets! They basically mickey moused that car , like mom used to say "not everything that shines isn't gold!" Buyer beware, Good informational video uncle tony!
People forget that a car like this is more than 50 years old and was never owned by the Little Old Lady from Pasadena. Sometimes it seems like only yesterday but it isn't. Kind of amazing that parts of any kind are still available.
Great video Tony, thanks for sharing all your knowledge with us . and thank Kathy for the great video work
My dad had his 06 magnum with the heads off the other day and I helped him reassemble. Never knew what made a hemi a hemi until I saw that. It's amazing to think that that tech is so effective it's good for 50+ years of oem implementation.
Man, sad to see such an historical car in this state. Thank goodness it now has a home that will give it the attention and respect that it needs. I just hope the engine and powertrain are numbers matching.
Great video series so far. As a newbie to the Gen2 Hemi on the front steps of building my first one, this has been very enlightening. Thanks for all the info and looking forward to the rest of the project.
I'm so happy to see the way your program is evolving. In six months you'll be doing twin turbskis or ignoring hygiene like dulcic. Either way the new shop is impressive. Somebody slapped that car together to sell it
I know these two guys who were in my unit in the USAF, they had 4th gen F bodys, they put a Moser 12 bolt under one of the Camaro. One guy did the passenger side, the other did the drivers side. He had a problem with it bouncing all the time when he was driving it, so I took a look at it. The drivers side was finger tight, passenger side was tightened with the car in the air, and I swear he used a breaker bar with a jack handle on it to tighten them. Some guys don't know how tight it needs to be, or that you need to tighten suspension bolts with the vehicle weight on it.
Its very rare I buy a muscle car from someone and not take it apart, unless I worked on it before I got it, like my 72 Formula. My friend who sold it to me did a lot of stupid stuff to that poor car. I will fix it all and put it back to as close to original as I can afford.. because its a numbers matching 455 HO car and they only built 276 of them in '72.
@@hendo337 the 72 is one of 11 Firebirds I own other than the 68 that is a very rusted bare shell, well whats left of it, and a 98 Formula, they are all between 71 and 79, in addition to GTOs and LeMans.
You'd be interested in my brother's cars. My dad left me a 70 AAR Cuda clone, the oldest got his 426 wedge 64 Sport Fury which is a twin to the one he bought new and sold before I was born, and the brother after me got his 36 Plymouth business coupe. They they have Chargers, the oldest has a 70 383 727, the one after me has a 69 318 auto with a sure grip, and his son has a 73 Charger with a very healthy 360 stuffed in it.
How I ended up a Pontiac man is a bit of a long story. The short version is I saw a blue 67 GTO in a magazine and I was hooked forever, even before I knew they hauled ass. My first car was a 67 Cougar, its sitting in my yard waiting for me to get back to it. Next year I will have owned it 40 years, and I haven't driven it since 1987. Makes me sad.
I'll be making videos of the Plymouths when I go home next month, I have to move a bunch of Pontiacs off the family farm and haul them 1000 miles to where I live now. Between the brother after me and I, we own well over 100 vehicles. He has mopar I have Pontiac, Ford, chevy trucks, and some Dodge trucks. We are a gearhead family.
A summer of adventure driving junk hauling junk. I need someone to drive the Cuda, would make it easier than hauling it.
UT, The consultant that gets right in there with the wrenches and lets fly. The most highly valued consultant extant! Should be a nice payday for Tony. Still a hell of a deal for the owner who gains valuable knowledge you would be hard pressed to learn by any other method.
Man I'm 46 year's old been around cars all my life and I'm still learning some really cool stuff.....thanks uncle Tony...
Uncle Tony will make that HEMI perfect, like factory new!!
I love the fuel tank, I usually complaining, Uncle Tony you forgot this or that, but you nailed this one on the head!! Me, EVERY lawnmower, Riding mower, car, truck, except for brand new, I drop the fuel tank and clean them out. Every one says, "just dump a can of sea foam in it and some high test gasoline, I never take off the tank. Would you drop a new electric fuel pump in that gunk??.. The fuel tank looked like new on the outside. You not gonna drive this home from Arkansas!! The only way to know is to drop and drain the tank, new fuel pump, new fuel filter, clean out the lines, rebuild the fuel system and the brakes/tie rod ends/ball joints/Idler arm, then you start on the engine. Water in the fuel is 85% of lawnmower repair.
That tank is shocking. Ok quite a lot of the car is, but that tank...😱
I dropped F-bombs on that tank.
Nice car. It should be completely gone through regardless. It's worth whatever parts you need to replace. Let's hope the block, heads and crank are in good shape.
Nice video. I like listening to guys who know what they are talking about and have a lot of real experience. The car reminds me of my second car, 1966 Dodge Coronet 440, that I bought in 1970.
The little skit at the end reminded me of that episode of Andy Griffith; when Goober took apart a car and put back together inside the court house.
Back around the early 70's I had a friend who lived down the street and was a car guy. He always had a muscle car of one kind or another. A 63 Corvette, 54 2door Belair, 36 Chevy coupe, 66 Chevelle 396, a 67 Hemi GTX. He took meticulous care of his cars and like most gear heads, we bought and sold them like baseball trading cards. He sold the GTX to someone for 10k and the guy comes back a week later and says the engine sucked a valve and I want my money back. My friend looked at him in bewilderment and said, "how is that my fault? You checked out the car and the car was running fine even when you took it for a test run." I mean, what did he expect him to do? That's what a tachometer is for or if he had some common sense.
Wow..... Who ever worked on that engine before should sell all of his tools. That gas tank was like nothing I've ever seen before ! Thanks for the video.
The 1967 Hemi project looks like allot of fun , thanks for sharing the story guys !
More like a lot of work and even more money. A 67 gtx is not a cookie cutter Chevy that you can buy anything out of a catalog for!
A lot of good information about a lot of different things to look for on these older vehicles. You can learn something by watching and paying attention.
Gonna be a Great series, perfect for me as im starting the process of waking up my 68 Firebird from her 29 year sleep. Cant wait.
Hey Tony, are you going to accept the Roadkill challenge to prove flipping the piston heads makes a difference? They called you out.
It can be hard to prove though, margins of error for dynos can be several percent and any single modification may be gaining that much or less.
In the real world where you can't easily quantify every minute detail you have to rely on common sense and experience to decide what's worth the effort.
In terms of effort flipping pistons amounts to zero, so the math says literally any gain even if its not noticable is worth the effort.
In the cases where flipping pistons required machine work or anything like a monetary investment I'm sure Tony would say don't bother.
@@wildrosegarage4208 on offset pins leads to egg bores, would be fine for a sleeved bore and on dyno the torque is starts early, not much increase to write home about
Pretty sure the 318 in bottle rocket has flipped pistons
@@wildrosegarage4208 Damn, did Finnegan piss in your Wheaties?
With wheel brake cylinders...use new ones with a new master cylinder. New rear hose , the two front hoses. Then like this car ..new stainless brake lines. Must include new rear shoes too. Those shoes you have are saturated with brake fluid. All new return springs too. Clean back plate with "Brakeclean " until spotless. Then mount brake cylinders....! Thanks Tony and helper, learned some things today !!😂
This is such an eye opener.
You just never know what the last person who worked on an old classic did to the vehicle or how bad they were at home wrenching.
Scary scary stuff 😱😱😱
Wow what a great video and channel. He went thru so much and I learned a lot about Hemis from this video, I knew they were complex but not like they were originally.
I'd pull that engine. if what you can get at in the chasis is like that what's to say the bottom end is much better? hard engine to replace. You only ran it for a few seconds. Oil pressure drop when it's hot? who knows?
The alligator clip was a clue that this motor was cobbled together..... good video..... I've been waiting all day to see it!
Love those outdoor shots. Clean and green Tennessee. Enjoyed the joke at the end of the vid, too...and with some camera trickery. Bravo.
Its good to see you started using fender covers!!
On someone else's car sure lol.
That was a great vid!! No bs just the facts, very much enjoyed
This man should be called a Legend 😃
I dump a bottle of stihl 2 cycle oil for 5 gallons in the gas on old cars. It really helps to stabilize it and to keep the tanks from rusting. It adds no visible smoke in operation.
ROLL UP YOUR CIGARETTE!!! LOL GREAT VIDEO UTG!!! HELLO ULTRA KATHY!!!
Mystery solved, this engine was assembled by Brian Cabrel.
I though that Lee feller looked a little squirrely!😉😉😂😂😂
@@hendo337 I hear ya, I would be too!
Ah man, I couldn't go as far as you did on this nice of a car without totally dismantling that engine. Specially with the present discoveries. The oil pickup tube won't be the correct one, there won't be a wind tray, it'll be a high volume oil pump for the race engine but the oil won't return fast enough to reuse. How can you trust the bottom end of this engine???
I have walked away from a few, I have bought a few. But i always finish what dummies started and decided they did not know what they were doing and gave up. I love to keep old cars doing what they were made for. every day driving. Good video on what to watch for. Always try your best to get the history. Even if the seller is embarrassed. Make them comfortable so they do not feel stupid and they will tell you. If you can not get the history take all the time you need to be comfortable. If they push you to get it over with. Walk away.
What a wild card, glad its in good hands now. And that rust fuel odor, takes days to get out of system. Been there it royally sucks! Thanks for the share UTG
Any car that has been sitting more than a year is probably a good idea to be ready to replace the fuel and brake system and with the engine should be tore down and freshened up because all the seals and gaskets are probably all dried up same with transmission especially an automatic, replacing the tires is a given, but still a nice score on the car, and I almost forgot that older cars are prone to electrical problems so you did a lot of people who are not familiar with the hiccups of buying older cars that have been sitting still a really big favor with this video
Great to hear & see you guys and Unc. Cathy around these cars in the new garage. 👍🏻
Uncle Tony knows his shit!
Very interesting finds. Especially the racing oil dams left in the passenger-side head Crazy! Thanks for the education. Glad I found your channel. Respect from Texas.
I'd pull the whole engine down. You already mentioned scuffed cam bearings, who knows what the story is with the rods and mains.
Very informative. Can hardly wait to see that GTX up and running again. That "new" gas tank is classic.
17:20 yes I agree ,that tire is a hazard and needs to be destroyed.
Put it on a beater and do a 1 wheel peel smokie until it blows.
Then it's safe so nobody else can use it.
There's your osha tip of the day from Mr. Hillfolk to keep others safe.
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!
I had a buddy have a tire come apart on a chassis dyno and take out literally half of his car. Maybe use that tire on something with garbage quarters before you melt it down for smoke?
AMEN! And Second that !
Another fantastic and informative video on this car. Great job everyone. Awesome.
One of the sharpest Mopar shops knowledge is boundless... you guys forgot more than most wrench Jockeys know.... good vid kids ... keep your powder dry and good luck!
A friend of mine bought a 75 Sport VW Beetle and asked me to check it out and I found a Full tank in EXACTLY the same condition that on is in. I bought a 73 Karmann-Ghia and first thing I did was open the tank and it was the SAME way. If the tank is in Great shape on the outside I soak the inside with a Miratic Acid and Water mix . Let it soak for about 24 hours SLOSHING it perioticly and rince with clean WAter(THOURLY) ,then give the tank a coating of Motor oil and put it back into service.
This is the epitome of pursuing every old car guy's wistful dreams - finding a muscle car specimen that brings us back to the golden days of the American automobile. However, the passage of the ensuing 50-60 years of use/abuse/neglect will take lots of $$$ to scrape away. Time is indeed money.
I think the future of purchasing old musclecars will resemble this GTX. The bodies and interiors will be solid and beautiful, but they'll have been left to sit for so long that the mechanical bits will be a total mess of wrong parts, badly put together parts, or new looking parts that are completely hashed. I'm thinking specifically of all those old cars that have been under tarps in the back of a garage or warehouse since 1992 and whose owners are close to hitting 80. Those are all going to be on the market in the next decade when those owners pass on and those cars end up at estate auctions.