Note: I feel like the video is getting viewed differently from what I want it to be, this is not a call-out video for certain private servers, and I never planned it to be in the first place, if I did I would only focus on that and name video differently, this is a ''Is Dragon Nest Worth Playing In 2024?'' video, private servers review is only one part of it, my purpose with this video was giving people information about how Dragon Nests is in 2024, and answer the questions they might have about the game, and answer the obvious question, ''Worth Playing Or Not?'' In fact I had no idea private servers will be full of toxic people, of course I'm not a newbie gamer and I know how communities are, I was waiting to face with couple toxic people, and plan to ignore them and socialize with the healthy players, play with them, I even open my own guild and I was actually gathering quite good amount of people, we had 19 people in the guild and it was quite active, I was thinking create chill and enjoyable environment in the guild, and ask people with this video to join me with the guild and the game, and plan to help new players, gather returned players, and together rise and play end-game contents as well, I was hoping I can play in Origin server for a long time, I never even imagined whole server is going to be this toxic and self righteous, or developer & mods are gonna do nothing about it when people act toxic, racist and insulting against other people, or I will be forced to drop the server because of end-game content being necessary to play with groups and I can't say I can't see myself doing anything with these people, it's quite sad considering how good combat and story is and I still cherish experiences I got with this game back in the day. I don't plan to create more drama out of this, everything is clear already and I dropped the server, even tho I still can't believe these people soo shamelessly trying to act they were right to act toxic, racist, and insulting over basic suggestions and opinions I shared, trying to turn things around me on DN subreddit and in this video's comments, what they don't understand is this is my channel and not their trash community, I won't allow them make any toxic nor nonsense comments here, but anyways hope you guys can watch this video as a ''Is It Worth Playing?'' instead of call-out video, because that's what is, and I hope it helped you to have some opinions and clear your head about the game, sorry for not delivering good news about the game, it was never my intention anyways, I was in search to find myself a main MMO and was hoping I can stick with this one for some time, shame it's in this state, but it is what is.
I'm in the DN subreddit and I came from there, it's so weird they are still digging their own grave by trying to act like it's normal or okay to treat someone with toxic, racist, and insulting comments over suggestions, imagine being pathetic enough to act toxic, racist and insulting to someone just because you don't agree with them... And it's weirder they are trying to make you look like wrong and bad one by sharing screenshots of what happened after they pulled that shit over you, opening alt accounts just to comment more nonsense, trying to show you like you are wrong just for blocking toxic people like you told me these people are sick and need help, thanks for the video BTW, it was pretty good and detailed video.
Heya Emperor,first time seeing your video and it had to be about Dragon Nest! Haha As a player who is playing the game for non stop 14 years(the game's whole life that is),in almost all official servers and some privates,not gonna lie,im open for any kind of questions,we can talk for days about the game's pros and cons and what is bad from devs and so,idk if you have a Discord so ppl can ask stuff for the game. All i can say is this: Its worth the try cause,i play RPG games,online and offline,for more than 25 years.Dragon Nest's fluidity of action combat,is still top-1 even at 2024. It might be outdated in lots of things but the gameplay they created for this game,should be TAUGHT in lessons for feature game designers/developers.
First of all welcome, and that's interesting it had to be DN video for sure :D And as I told in the video, even after 14 years the action combat this game has is one of best, if not best action combat in MMOs, story is interesting especially with different characters having different perspectives, but sadly this is not a singleplayer game, it's an MMO, and sadly official and private servers are seems full of toxic people, and I personally can't see myself playing with those toxic people, considering end-game content needs you play with 4-8 people parties I'm not gonna play the game anymore, sad tho, I think this game deserves better community, I was hoping at least private servers be fine, but sadly they were not different either.
Sadly it isn’t just this game, other games’ private servers also experience the same toxicity shit. If you as a private server maintainer can’t control your small community, then there’s no point in running the project anymore as it’ll slowly grow in the wrong direction and become a nasty environment that only attracts the wrong kind of players. You really dont want that happening, do you.
Yeah, I'm starting to see that as well, nearly all private servers I was in had toxic communities, it seems that's something happening in most, if not all private servers, but sadly in Dragon Nest official servers communites are quite toxic as well along with the P2W stuff ruining the game.
Quite a similar thing happened to and my friend some time ago, we joined there with the hope of seeing a less toxic community after official games & Project Duck, but we got insults and toxic comments after sharing some opinions we had about the server, they made big deal out of it, tried to make us accept we are wrong and need to change our opinions, bullied us with all comments they made with saying we are wrong, they are right and we need to think like them, like we are not allowed to have opinions, not even my family didn't tried to control me like this nor change my opinions, there is something called ''respecting opinions'' in this damn world, but these people has no idea about what is respect, we tried to not argue too much and tried to enjoy the game, but since we can't do group content and couldn't socialize with those people we dropped the server, sadly Dragon Nest really not worth playing especially for returned players, official servers are P2W heavy with toxic people, private servers are at least less P2W and gives better experience, but thanks to the community and you need to function community to do end-game content it does not work, thanks for sharing this and showing more people how these people are, they are really people who share same weird vision about the server, not tolerate any person with different opinion, and just make people drop the server with bullying them, they really need professional help.
It's quite sad for returned player like me as well, I really missed the game was thinking I will play as a main MMO for some time. I was hoping two simple things from that server, 1- Not being P2W like main game and 2- Having okay-ish non-toxic community... Seriously not soo much to ask...
I didn't play the game for years and found your video while searching how it is in 2024, so thanks for the video, personally I had similar experiences with official servers, especially SEA had a very toxic community until it got closed, and private servers are not soo far of either, I tried project duck, but it has terrible community, even for most basic things they don't like they will gang up on you with sarcastic remarks. And Origins is not different either, it's full of trolls and toxic people, seeing your experience with them made me remember my experiences and I felt sad, too bad this amazing game has a terrible community like this and official servers are killed by how P2W heavy they are along with the toxic community as well.
Thanks for sharing your opinion, and yeah sadly this is how the game today, it was like this for years, and it seems nothing is gonna change, it's too sad to see great game like this slowly dying because of P2W mechanics and toxic community in official servers and toxic community in private ones, I was hoping at least private servers not have toxic community the official servers has, but I guess in the end same or similar people are playing in private servers, shame tho, this game deserved better model and community.
I agree about Duck and Origin servers, their community constructs itself around gangs of echo-chamber professionals, whom I feel are psychopaths with a self-righteousness problem. It's sickening how they always think and deem themselves as the voice of reasons. Due to that mentality, promising pservers were never able to thrive. What a shame really.
TH-cam deleted my comment somehow, but i'll say it again. I agree about those servers, they constructs itself around groups of echo-chamber professionals, whom I feel are psychopaths with a self-righteousness problem. To make it worse, I'm baffled by how the devs of those server allowed that kind of ludicrous behavior to continue, some of them even advocated the community to behave like this. What an insane experience considering how Dragon Nest is such an old and maybe dead MMO. It felt like they get the joy from educating people on how to properly think, despite being completely obsessed with being right in a video game.
I still can see your comment, you sure it's deleted? Here screenshot for you: prnt.sc/sPiWuWhn4mLC Maybe change sorting of comments, sometimes it can be bugged, now I tried and it doesn't show when I make sorting for top comments, but it's shown when I make newest first.
@@Emperor_PHNX I guess they are bringing their squad in to bash on your vid, I think they accidentally helped you prove the accuracy of your video tbh.
@@daverwilfred4202 Yeah I know, they are constantly dissliking the video since the beginning, it seems their shamelessness and toxicity levels are really of the chart, I can't do anything about to dislikes, but if they really think they can write all those toxic and troll comments on my channel and I will just let them to be toxic they are even dumber than I thought, this is my channel, not their toxic community they can do whatever they want and get away with it, I will block them from channel one by one until they left with no alt accounts. And most dumbest part is they are still acting like this my personal beef or something, meanwhile all I did was be voice of facts and show how toxic they are in one part of my video, and from comments of people like you in this video or in comments I read on reddit I can clearly see I'm not the only one, there are countless of people who tried Origins & Project Duck after wanting have P2W-free experience and non-toxic community (since main game community is toxic) and got attacked by these trolls and toxic people, and stop playing in their server, it aint about me, it's the fact how they are, and it's already known by most people, all I did was giving a place to show their real-face in my video, nothing less and nothing more. And they are soo egoist and dumb they think this video is about their server, their server review is only part of the video, this is ''Is Dragon Nest Worth Playing in 2024?'' video, not the ''My personal beef with Dragon Nest Origin server'' video, if it was I would only talk about them, and not about the game, combat, story, and all other details nor about official servers. I was already going to make video for this game anyways, I was keep recording my experiences while I was playing, and if not how toxic community is I was going to talk positive about their server in this video and even going to suggest new people to play the game, I even created a Guild and started gain some members, we were around 15-20 people there and I was starting to get new players, help them, try to create chill environment for them, and going to ask people who watch and wonder if game is still doing good in 2024 come and join me with my guild and the game, even tho I'm not very big youtuber I'm pretty sure that would help the server, but thanks to their toxic community DEV of the server lost that chance, in fact DEV didn't give a f*ck the things happening there, I even opened ticket and make sure they know what's happening, but they done nothing about these people, and that's another point, if you can't control your own private server and can't be sure community is healthy you aint doing your job as a DEV, in the end they made their own grave anways😂
I just started a week ago, and after seeing the suggestions part I was a bit interested as well, I felt like it's a cool feature to have in a private server discord, like giving your suggestions to the developer, but after seeing you got insults, toxic comments even racist comments I took a step back, didn't wanna experience the same thing, and props to you for not answering non of those comments in suggestions part, that was very mature. But I found it really weird none of those toxic or racist comments not removed by moderators or developers, why would anyone let something like that happen and stay there? Developers and moderators are either sleeping or they are part of a toxic community for sure. Then I read things that happened in other chats after people tried to act like nothing wrong with treating simple suggestions in that way, trying to justify their toxic and racist act with the names of ''your suggestions were not fit here'' or ''we don't agree with your suggestions, they can hurt/change how we want to game should be so we acted toxic and racist to you, and you deserved that.'' these, etc. It's soo damn wild that these people think any of the excuses they are giving like ''You played only for a week and shared too many suggestions.'' (which is weird since you told me you played 500+ hours on Europe in your video, and even in Discord, but I guess they don't accept your experience on official servers?) or ''We acted that way because your suggestions could hurt the game vision of ours'' imagine thinking any reason can justify your toxic and racist act, doesn't matter what you shared there (things you shared were pretty harmless btw, like asking mid-size hud? I was going to suggest the same thing, hud either looks too small or too big in my opinion as well, it's wild that the suggestion got hate) it doesn't give them the right to act toxic, insulting, or racist, I had similar experiences in Project Duck, and I was there for hoping they are not toxic like official servers, they were, then I heard origins and from what I can see it's not different either, shame tho, the game is great and deserves better community.
Yeah that sums how things happened quite well and short enough, and agree, I started that server with good hopes, I love this game man, it's has one of best if not best action combat in MMOs and has great story, has some problems here and there, but even after 14 years it's still good MMO, and I was hoping I can play in Origin server for long time, but since end-game is focused on group content there is no point over playing with these people, shame this game is slowly dying for years, it doesn't deserve this...
Damn... Can't believe you had to explain them getting triggered and acting toxic as f*ck over basic suggestions are wrong and you done nothing wrong... And I agree with you about the game having a great story and combat, but the community in official and private servers being this toxic along with being P2W in official servers is the reason why this game is not popular and slowly dying, quite sad for great MMO like this.
Yeah it was one of most nonsense arguments I had in my life, I still can't believe they are thinking they are normal, and I deserved get all that toxic comments, insults, etc, just for making suggestions and told things like ''you shouldn't make suggestions before playing at least a months and if you played for months you will see how wrong you are, you deserved that treatment because of that'' type of comments, imagine someone who made simple suggestions deserve to get insulted and toxic comment spams for it, what a sick and unhealthy mindset.
Note: I feel like the video is getting viewed differently from what I want it to be, this is not a call-out video for certain private servers, and I never planned it to be in the first place, if I did I would only focus on that and name video differently, this is a ''Is Dragon Nest Worth Playing In 2024?'' video, private servers review is only one part of it, my purpose with this video was giving people information about how Dragon Nests is in 2024, and answer the questions they might have about the game, and answer the obvious question, ''Worth Playing Or Not?''
In fact I had no idea private servers will be full of toxic people, of course I'm not a newbie gamer and I know how communities are, I was waiting to face with couple toxic people, and plan to ignore them and socialize with the healthy players, play with them, I even open my own guild and I was actually gathering quite good amount of people, we had 19 people in the guild and it was quite active, I was thinking create chill and enjoyable environment in the guild, and ask people with this video to join me with the guild and the game, and plan to help new players, gather returned players, and together rise and play end-game contents as well, I was hoping I can play in Origin server for a long time, I never even imagined whole server is going to be this toxic and self righteous, or developer & mods are gonna do nothing about it when people act toxic, racist and insulting against other people, or I will be forced to drop the server because of end-game content being necessary to play with groups and I can't say I can't see myself doing anything with these people, it's quite sad considering how good combat and story is and I still cherish experiences I got with this game back in the day.
I don't plan to create more drama out of this, everything is clear already and I dropped the server, even tho I still can't believe these people soo shamelessly trying to act they were right to act toxic, racist, and insulting over basic suggestions and opinions I shared, trying to turn things around me on DN subreddit and in this video's comments, what they don't understand is this is my channel and not their trash community, I won't allow them make any toxic nor nonsense comments here, but anyways hope you guys can watch this video as a ''Is It Worth Playing?'' instead of call-out video, because that's what is, and I hope it helped you to have some opinions and clear your head about the game, sorry for not delivering good news about the game, it was never my intention anyways, I was in search to find myself a main MMO and was hoping I can stick with this one for some time, shame it's in this state, but it is what is.
I'm in the DN subreddit and I came from there, it's so weird they are still digging their own grave by trying to act like it's normal or okay to treat someone with toxic, racist, and insulting comments over suggestions, imagine being pathetic enough to act toxic, racist and insulting to someone just because you don't agree with them...
And it's weirder they are trying to make you look like wrong and bad one by sharing screenshots of what happened after they pulled that shit over you, opening alt accounts just to comment more nonsense, trying to show you like you are wrong just for blocking toxic people like you told me these people are sick and need help, thanks for the video BTW, it was pretty good and detailed video.
Thanks for the comment mate, appreciate it.
Heya Emperor,first time seeing your video and it had to be about Dragon Nest! Haha
As a player who is playing the game for non stop 14 years(the game's whole life that is),in almost all official servers and some privates,not gonna lie,im open for any kind of questions,we can talk for days about the game's pros and cons and what is bad from devs and so,idk if you have a Discord so ppl can ask stuff for the game.
All i can say is this:
Its worth the try cause,i play RPG games,online and offline,for more than 25 years.Dragon Nest's fluidity of action combat,is still top-1 even at 2024.
It might be outdated in lots of things but the gameplay they created for this game,should be TAUGHT in lessons for feature game designers/developers.
First of all welcome, and that's interesting it had to be DN video for sure :D And as I told in the video, even after 14 years the action combat this game has is one of best, if not best action combat in MMOs, story is interesting especially with different characters having different perspectives, but sadly this is not a singleplayer game, it's an MMO, and sadly official and private servers are seems full of toxic people, and I personally can't see myself playing with those toxic people, considering end-game content needs you play with 4-8 people parties I'm not gonna play the game anymore, sad tho, I think this game deserves better community, I was hoping at least private servers be fine, but sadly they were not different either.
Sadly it isn’t just this game, other games’ private servers also experience the same toxicity shit. If you as a private server maintainer can’t control your small community, then there’s no point in running the project anymore as it’ll slowly grow in the wrong direction and become a nasty environment that only attracts the wrong kind of players. You really dont want that happening, do you.
Yeah, I'm starting to see that as well, nearly all private servers I was in had toxic communities, it seems that's something happening in most, if not all private servers, but sadly in Dragon Nest official servers communites are quite toxic as well along with the P2W stuff ruining the game.
Quite a similar thing happened to and my friend some time ago, we joined there with the hope of seeing a less toxic community after official games & Project Duck, but we got insults and toxic comments after sharing some opinions we had about the server, they made big deal out of it, tried to make us accept we are wrong and need to change our opinions, bullied us with all comments they made with saying we are wrong, they are right and we need to think like them, like we are not allowed to have opinions, not even my family didn't tried to control me like this nor change my opinions, there is something called ''respecting opinions'' in this damn world, but these people has no idea about what is respect, we tried to not argue too much and tried to enjoy the game, but since we can't do group content and couldn't socialize with those people we dropped the server, sadly Dragon Nest really not worth playing especially for returned players, official servers are P2W heavy with toxic people, private servers are at least less P2W and gives better experience, but thanks to the community and you need to function community to do end-game content it does not work, thanks for sharing this and showing more people how these people are, they are really people who share same weird vision about the server, not tolerate any person with different opinion, and just make people drop the server with bullying them, they really need professional help.
Welp, not surprising you experienced something like that, wish you are doing good now and thanks for sharing your opinion 👍
anyone can recommend a new/fresh private server?
with no instant lvl up / max lvl.. and has atleast some few latest classes
and is in SEA location.
that server isnt empty for no reason xd, kinda sad if u wanna to try the game for the first time now
It's quite sad for returned player like me as well, I really missed the game was thinking I will play as a main MMO for some time. I was hoping two simple things from that server, 1- Not being P2W like main game and 2- Having okay-ish non-toxic community... Seriously not soo much to ask...
U should try dn return v2 though,its indonesian svr i think
Thanks for suggestion, but I'm very far to indonesia, I would have huge ping if I play in indonesian server.
I didn't play the game for years and found your video while searching how it is in 2024, so thanks for the video, personally I had similar experiences with official servers, especially SEA had a very toxic community until it got closed, and private servers are not soo far of either, I tried project duck, but it has terrible community, even for most basic things they don't like they will gang up on you with sarcastic remarks. And Origins is not different either, it's full of trolls and toxic people, seeing your experience with them made me remember my experiences and I felt sad, too bad this amazing game has a terrible community like this and official servers are killed by how P2W heavy they are along with the toxic community as well.
Thanks for sharing your opinion, and yeah sadly this is how the game today, it was like this for years, and it seems nothing is gonna change, it's too sad to see great game like this slowly dying because of P2W mechanics and toxic community in official servers and toxic community in private ones, I was hoping at least private servers not have toxic community the official servers has, but I guess in the end same or similar people are playing in private servers, shame tho, this game deserved better model and community.
I agree about Duck and Origin servers, their community constructs itself around gangs of echo-chamber professionals, whom I feel are psychopaths with a self-righteousness problem. It's sickening how they always think and deem themselves as the voice of reasons. Due to that mentality, promising pservers were never able to thrive.
What a shame really.
@@daverwilfred4202 You explained soo damn well, I fully agree with you as well👍
TH-cam deleted my comment somehow, but i'll say it again. I agree about those servers, they constructs itself around groups of echo-chamber professionals, whom I feel are psychopaths with a self-righteousness problem. To make it worse, I'm baffled by how the devs of those server allowed that kind of ludicrous behavior to continue, some of them even advocated the community to behave like this. What an insane experience considering how Dragon Nest is such an old and maybe dead MMO.
It felt like they get the joy from educating people on how to properly think, despite being completely obsessed with being right in a video game.
I still can see your comment, you sure it's deleted? Here screenshot for you: prnt.sc/sPiWuWhn4mLC
Maybe change sorting of comments, sometimes it can be bugged, now I tried and it doesn't show when I make sorting for top comments, but it's shown when I make newest first.
@@Emperor_PHNX I guess they are bringing their squad in to bash on your vid, I think they accidentally helped you prove the accuracy of your video tbh.
@@daverwilfred4202 Yeah I know, they are constantly dissliking the video since the beginning, it seems their shamelessness and toxicity levels are really of the chart, I can't do anything about to dislikes, but if they really think they can write all those toxic and troll comments on my channel and I will just let them to be toxic they are even dumber than I thought, this is my channel, not their toxic community they can do whatever they want and get away with it, I will block them from channel one by one until they left with no alt accounts.
And most dumbest part is they are still acting like this my personal beef or something, meanwhile all I did was be voice of facts and show how toxic they are in one part of my video, and from comments of people like you in this video or in comments I read on reddit I can clearly see I'm not the only one, there are countless of people who tried Origins & Project Duck after wanting have P2W-free experience and non-toxic community (since main game community is toxic) and got attacked by these trolls and toxic people, and stop playing in their server, it aint about me, it's the fact how they are, and it's already known by most people, all I did was giving a place to show their real-face in my video, nothing less and nothing more.
And they are soo egoist and dumb they think this video is about their server, their server review is only part of the video, this is ''Is Dragon Nest Worth Playing in 2024?'' video, not the ''My personal beef with Dragon Nest Origin server'' video, if it was I would only talk about them, and not about the game, combat, story, and all other details nor about official servers. I was already going to make video for this game anyways, I was keep recording my experiences while I was playing, and if not how toxic community is I was going to talk positive about their server in this video and even going to suggest new people to play the game, I even created a Guild and started gain some members, we were around 15-20 people there and I was starting to get new players, help them, try to create chill environment for them, and going to ask people who watch and wonder if game is still doing good in 2024 come and join me with my guild and the game, even tho I'm not very big youtuber I'm pretty sure that would help the server, but thanks to their toxic community DEV of the server lost that chance, in fact DEV didn't give a f*ck the things happening there, I even opened ticket and make sure they know what's happening, but they done nothing about these people, and that's another point, if you can't control your own private server and can't be sure community is healthy you aint doing your job as a DEV, in the end they made their own grave anways😂
I just started a week ago, and after seeing the suggestions part I was a bit interested as well, I felt like it's a cool feature to have in a private server discord, like giving your suggestions to the developer, but after seeing you got insults, toxic comments even racist comments I took a step back, didn't wanna experience the same thing, and props to you for not answering non of those comments in suggestions part, that was very mature. But I found it really weird none of those toxic or racist comments not removed by moderators or developers, why would anyone let something like that happen and stay there? Developers and moderators are either sleeping or they are part of a toxic community for sure. Then I read things that happened in other chats after people tried to act like nothing wrong with treating simple suggestions in that way, trying to justify their toxic and racist act with the names of ''your suggestions were not fit here'' or ''we don't agree with your suggestions, they can hurt/change how we want to game should be so we acted toxic and racist to you, and you deserved that.'' these, etc. It's soo damn wild that these people think any of the excuses they are giving like ''You played only for a week and shared too many suggestions.'' (which is weird since you told me you played 500+ hours on Europe in your video, and even in Discord, but I guess they don't accept your experience on official servers?) or ''We acted that way because your suggestions could hurt the game vision of ours'' imagine thinking any reason can justify your toxic and racist act, doesn't matter what you shared there (things you shared were pretty harmless btw, like asking mid-size hud? I was going to suggest the same thing, hud either looks too small or too big in my opinion as well, it's wild that the suggestion got hate) it doesn't give them the right to act toxic, insulting, or racist, I had similar experiences in Project Duck, and I was there for hoping they are not toxic like official servers, they were, then I heard origins and from what I can see it's not different either, shame tho, the game is great and deserves better community.
Yeah that sums how things happened quite well and short enough, and agree, I started that server with good hopes, I love this game man, it's has one of best if not best action combat in MMOs and has great story, has some problems here and there, but even after 14 years it's still good MMO, and I was hoping I can play in Origin server for long time, but since end-game is focused on group content there is no point over playing with these people, shame this game is slowly dying for years, it doesn't deserve this...
Bazinga!
Someone called me for this video, and it seems there are sick and toxic souls I need to fix, Jesus out!
Damn... Can't believe you had to explain them getting triggered and acting toxic as f*ck over basic suggestions are wrong and you done nothing wrong... And I agree with you about the game having a great story and combat, but the community in official and private servers being this toxic along with being P2W in official servers is the reason why this game is not popular and slowly dying, quite sad for great MMO like this.
Yeah it was one of most nonsense arguments I had in my life, I still can't believe they are thinking they are normal, and I deserved get all that toxic comments, insults, etc, just for making suggestions and told things like ''you shouldn't make suggestions before playing at least a months and if you played for months you will see how wrong you are, you deserved that treatment because of that'' type of comments, imagine someone who made simple suggestions deserve to get insulted and toxic comment spams for it, what a sick and unhealthy mindset.