I've got those Lalucenatz lights, and they're great for the value. But seeing them get blown away right now, and the lack of dmx unless you use a dongle, no RF remote, and now you've mentioned battery deterioration after long-term, it's time to upgrade. Great video, as always.
Just received mine. I got the both Ir-4 versions, same as yours but they have the screen on them like the rockville wedges. I will be running mine through sound switch on my denon prime go and prime 4 mixers. Thanks for the idea of running the wires under the foam. Keep em dancing!
Just found your channel and love it! Thank you for all the great content. I am a mobile DJ in Charlotte and have been trying to decide on new uplighting. Think I’m going with these after seeing your video.
Is there a sound active mode on the lights. Coming from ape labs which are amazing, but extremely expensive. Have you tried other lights like the tubes with these uplights. Great video
Yes these lights have active sound mode as well. And yes I run all of my lights (including the tubes) at the same time controlling them all with Soundswitch. ZERO problems or issues.
I do love these. Can you confirm if they sync up with rockwedges? My main con about these lights those power adapter cables are bulky as hell I’d rather charge them at home with my 18 outlet powerstrip but they are too bulky for the powerstrip…not everyone needs a case. Cases just take up more room in my vehicle i prefer to store them in tote bags.
@@DJ2Legit007 sorry i meant the best par 60’s i don’t use a dmx controller the best par 60’s have the wireless antenna so it acts as a dmx controller. I just feel the dmx controller is too bulky and takes up a lot of table space. I use 1 best par 60 to sync all my rockwedges and the range is still pretty impressive.
Btw i do have the same dmx controller but instead stopped using it cause my best par 60’s do the exact same thing with the remote instead. Always trying to simplify my setup.
@DjTecniq Unfortunately I don't have a Best Par 60, so I can't 100% answer that question. I can say as long as the Best Par 60 can transmit on channel 1, the red channel, then the Both RF4 should follow as that is the only channel it can receive from.
Still working as good today as the day I received them and I use them regularly at gigs every week. Nope, they never heat up in the case when I charge them. Be sure to keep the case lid open while charging.
Hi great video! I know that you have rock wedges, are you eventually going to sell them to buy more rf4s? Also, any reason you bought the both r4s instead on the rockville rf4s?
I used to have Rockwedges. I sold them after I got the Both RF4s. I didn't know about the Rockville RF4s at the time. Still happy with my Both RF4s though. No desire to go with Rockville now.
The IR4s have a menu and can use more than just the red channel. The RF4s use an RF remote so you don't have to point the remote at the light. Never ever had any issues with any of my lights from Both Lighting. Best lights ever, imo.
Use this link to get 8 of them for only $694.54. Charging case included. www.djnowlighting.com/products/8pcs-with-case-4x12w-wireless-dmx-led-uplighting-battery-powered-akku-mini-spot-uplights-for-wedding-djs-with-rf-remote?DIST=QkRA
@@DJ2Legit007 This might be asking too much but here goes,....Is there any way possible for you to record a video doing a distance test of the remote away from those up lights? If not, no worries I understand people get busy. 👍🏾
Sure! Here's the link where you can buy 8 of them with charging case included for only $694.54. www.djnowlighting.com/products/8pcs-with-case-4x12w-wireless-dmx-led-uplighting-battery-powered-akku-mini-spot-uplights-for-wedding-djs-with-rf-remote?DIST=QkRA
How do you compare your new lights to the Rockville up lights you already have. The same better. I like the price on the new lights compare to the Rockville up lights. Very nice lights for the buck.
Can you make one of your new lights as the master and then the Rockville lights can be the slave? Would that help with better signal for the Rockville lights?
@@chrisfejeran4401 Nope sorry. Not possible. These 2 different lights can't communicate that way. As far as the signal to my Rockwedges from my dmx controller, it's absolutely perfect AS IS. :)
You can buy them from this link for only $694.54. Charging case included. www.djnowlighting.com/products/8pcs-with-case-4x12w-wireless-dmx-led-uplighting-battery-powered-akku-mini-spot-uplights-for-wedding-djs-with-rf-remote?DIST=QkRA
Great video!! Do all of the lights in the room respond to the single controller? For example if you want to switch them all to a fade mode, strobe mode will they all change at once or do you have to go change each individually?
Awesome video, thanks for putting this out. I have several of the ApeLabs, and for the price I might try these out. Can one remote control all the lights like Ape Labs ? Approximately how long is the battery life? By the way, RF stands for radio frequency and IR stands for infrared
yes one remote will control all the lights the only downside these lights have which to me is not a big deal is they all work on 1 dmx channel. You can change all the colors flawlessly but you can't make one light red and another light blue because that would require 2 dmx channels. All in all these are a great investment and a good bang for the dollar.
I don't know. I haven't tested that yet. You're right about the Rockville wedges though. You have to be right on top of the light to get it to work lol. These are not like that. At my gig last week, I know I had a light at least 75 feet away from me and the remote worked with no problem.
The rockwedges only have an IR remote so you have to have the remote pointed directly at the sensor. These use an RF remote so you get a better signal. I had a small Sunday wedding at noon after a late party night and just grabbed a case of these and a remote. It was in a decent size American Legion and was surprised to see that they all reacted so well to the remote.
I've used them on multiple gigs so far and keep them on either sound active or a color changing program the entire gig. 4 to 5 hours I've used them at a time and the battery is still half full at the end of my gigs.
I bought these from Rick Webb. He charges more for them than Both Lighting does because he is the only authorized dealer in the USA. If you get this package directly from Both Lighting, the cost is around $694 for 8 lights and the charging case.
Here's a link to get 8 of them. Charging case included. $694.54 www.djnowlighting.com/products/8pcs-with-case-4x12w-wireless-dmx-led-uplighting-battery-powered-akku-mini-spot-uplights-for-wedding-djs-with-rf-remote?DIST=QkRA
Use this link to get 8 of them for only $694.54. Charging case included. www.djnowlighting.com/products/8pcs-with-case-4x12w-wireless-dmx-led-uplighting-battery-powered-akku-mini-spot-uplights-for-wedding-djs-with-rf-remote?DIST=QkRA
Yep. Both also sells the one diode and 3 diode versions of this light too. Someone told me that Both lights and Rockville lights come from the same Chinese factory.
I've got those Lalucenatz lights, and they're great for the value. But seeing them get blown away right now, and the lack of dmx unless you use a dongle, no RF remote, and now you've mentioned battery deterioration after long-term, it's time to upgrade. Great video, as always.
Just received mine. I got the both Ir-4 versions, same as yours but they have the screen on them like the rockville wedges. I will be running mine through sound switch on my denon prime go and prime 4 mixers. Thanks for the idea of running the wires under the foam. Keep em dancing!
Thank you for video. Which would you suggest purchasing from the 3? Thank you
If anyone reading this would like to sell a set please let me know. And this was a really good video and appreciate your time to put this up for us!
i have the rockville version. im a lil pissed you cant change teh DMX channel(only 1-10) but they are great lights !
Just found your channel and love it! Thank you for all the great content. I am a mobile DJ in Charlotte and have been trying to decide on new uplighting. Think I’m going with these after seeing your video.
Thanks for subscribing! They have updated ones too. They are called the Both IR4.
Yeah buddy! You were smart and bought the black ones. I bought some used chrome ones but I’m still happy with my purchase overall
What's wrong with the chrome
Is there a sound active mode on the lights. Coming from ape labs which are amazing, but extremely expensive. Have you tried other lights like the tubes with these uplights. Great video
Yes these lights have active sound mode as well. And yes I run all of my lights (including the tubes) at the same time controlling them all with Soundswitch. ZERO problems or issues.
What is the difference between the both rf4 vs the rockville rf4.
I just ordered mine from Both Lighting.
How does the RF-4 sound mode compare to Ape labs Musik mode?
I don't know. I never touched an Ape Labs light before. I would guess and say the Ape Labs is far better though.
I am definitely getting some of these next year...Thank you again for helping me out!!!!
seem like a great guy. subscribed from Chicago. great review!
Thanks for subscribing! I was born and raised in Chicago. I live in Oklahoma now.
Did you grow up on the house? Music scene with a hot mix five? I’m sure you missed those guys.
How do you like these lights compared to your Rockville rock wedge battery powered everything
I sold the Rockwedges after I got these. Just didn't have a use for them anymore. So evidently, I like these way more lol.
@@DJ2Legit007 okay cool are the battery life better on these both lighting
@@devonmathison4507 About the same.
Can you tell me about the bag you got
They are the Rockville RLB40. th-cam.com/video/Rf73CTu7bA4/w-d-xo.html
@@DJ2Legit007 thank you very much
I watched most of your videos keep up the great work
Thanks, will do!
Thanks for the review!
I do love these. Can you confirm if they sync up with rockwedges? My main con about these lights those power adapter cables are bulky as hell I’d rather charge them at home with my 18 outlet powerstrip but they are too bulky for the powerstrip…not everyone needs a case. Cases just take up more room in my vehicle i prefer to store them in tote bags.
Yep. They sync perfectly with the Rockwedges.
@@DJ2Legit007 sorry i meant the best par 60’s i don’t use a dmx controller the best par 60’s have the wireless antenna so it acts as a dmx controller. I just feel the dmx controller is too bulky and takes up a lot of table space. I use 1 best par 60 to sync all my rockwedges and the range is still pretty impressive.
Btw i do have the same dmx controller but instead stopped using it cause my best par 60’s do the exact same thing with the remote instead. Always trying to simplify my setup.
@DjTecniq Unfortunately I don't have a Best Par 60, so I can't 100% answer that question. I can say as long as the Best Par 60 can transmit on channel 1, the red channel, then the Both RF4 should follow as that is the only channel it can receive from.
Hello, how are they working now after 11 months? a
re they heating up in case when u charge them?
Still working as good today as the day I received them and I use them regularly at gigs every week. Nope, they never heat up in the case when I charge them. Be sure to keep the case lid open while charging.
@@DJ2Legit007 thx broski
With the remote, if you change, color on one light will the others change?
Yes
Hi great video! I know that you have rock wedges, are you eventually going to sell them to buy more rf4s? Also, any reason you bought the both r4s instead on the rockville rf4s?
I used to have Rockwedges. I sold them after I got the Both RF4s. I didn't know about the Rockville RF4s at the time. Still happy with my Both RF4s though. No desire to go with Rockville now.
Oh okay. Besides portability, what other reason do you like the Both RF4 over the Rockwedges?@@DJ2Legit007
@@coicoucoicou None. Easy to transport and easier to set up because they are so small. That does it for me.
Sweet. Thank you for the info! Keep up the good work man!
@@DJ2Legit007
What's the difference between the Both IR4?
Also have any of the lights given you any issues?
The IR4s have a menu and can use more than just the red channel. The RF4s use an RF remote so you don't have to point the remote at the light. Never ever had any issues with any of my lights from Both Lighting. Best lights ever, imo.
I just got 8 IR4s. Hopefully, I will not need to use DMX.
@manidelgado The hand held remote works great if you put your lights in master / slave mode.
How far do I have to be from the master with the remote to activate it? Thanks
Thank so much. Very polite.
Do you have a link? thanks
Use this link to get 8 of them for only $694.54. Charging case included.
www.djnowlighting.com/products/8pcs-with-case-4x12w-wireless-dmx-led-uplighting-battery-powered-akku-mini-spot-uplights-for-wedding-djs-with-rf-remote?DIST=QkRA
@@DJ2Legit007 Thank You. Noticed on your last video, you went DMX with them. Can you do a video on how that works?
Also, how much do you and other DJs that read this add to your client price for uplighting. Thanks
@@stayhappy9893 I don't know what other DJs charge for uplighting but I charge $250.
Yes. RF: Radio Frequency
How far away does the remote need to be from the lights for them to work?
I don't know the exact distance. I know I've had the remote at least 60 feet away with no problem.
@@DJ2Legit007 wow that's a pretty decent distance I'd say. Thanks again. It definitely looks like a best bang for your buck uplighting.
@@DJ2Legit007 This might be asking too much but here goes,....Is there any way possible for you to record a video doing a distance test of the remote away from those up lights? If not, no worries I understand people get busy. 👍🏾
@Kelly Austin Can't promise but we'll see.
@@DJ2Legit007 no worries brotha. If you can't it's all good.
Great video. What model Rockville lighting controller are u using?
Rockville Rockforce W2
@@DJ2Legit007 thanks
Good job on your presentation I like those lights. Can you put the link where you bought them as well as your charging case. Thanks
Sure! Here's the link where you can buy 8 of them with charging case included for only $694.54.
www.djnowlighting.com/products/8pcs-with-case-4x12w-wireless-dmx-led-uplighting-battery-powered-akku-mini-spot-uplights-for-wedding-djs-with-rf-remote?DIST=QkRA
How do you compare your new lights to the Rockville up lights you already have. The same better. I like the price on the new lights compare to the Rockville up lights. Very nice lights for the buck.
@@juanbanuelos3531 I like my Both RF4 lights better.
Can you make one of your new lights as the master and then the Rockville lights can be the slave? Would that help with better signal for the Rockville lights?
@@chrisfejeran4401 Nope sorry. Not possible. These 2 different lights can't communicate that way. As far as the signal to my Rockwedges from my dmx controller, it's absolutely perfect AS IS. :)
Where can i get them
The link is in the description.
Appreciate the video 2Legit! Quick question ... what are the other colors that are built into the remote other than the RGBWA-UV?
Always giving great advice and bright easy to use ideas to take your DJ events to the next level. I'm going to order 16 myself. Thanks DJ 2 legit.
These are awesome and much more affordable than ape labs. Where can we buy them from? Link please 😊
Dj Rick Web is the US sales rep.
You can buy them from this link for only $694.54. Charging case included.
www.djnowlighting.com/products/8pcs-with-case-4x12w-wireless-dmx-led-uplighting-battery-powered-akku-mini-spot-uplights-for-wedding-djs-with-rf-remote?DIST=QkRA
Can you control all the lights with just one remote or not?
Yes. One remote controls all the lights simultaneously.
Great video!! Do all of the lights in the room respond to the single controller? For example if you want to switch them all to a fade mode, strobe mode will they all change at once or do you have to go change each individually?
They all respond to the one remote! They all change at once.
Awesome video, thanks for putting this out. I have several of the ApeLabs, and for the price I might try these out. Can one remote control all the lights like Ape Labs ? Approximately how long is the battery life?
By the way, RF stands for radio frequency and IR stands for infrared
Yes one remote controls all the lights simultaneously just like Ape Labs. Battery life is approximately 10-12 hours.
yes one remote will control all the lights the only downside these lights have which to me is not a big deal is they all work on 1 dmx channel. You can change all the colors flawlessly but you can't make one light red and another light blue because that would require 2 dmx channels. All in all these are a great investment and a good bang for the dollar.
How’s the battery life
Amazing!!! 10 to 12 hours!
@@DJ2Legit007 thank you I just ordered the new version of these
What’s the maximum distance you get when using remote control? My rockville wedges don’t get much distance.
I don't know. I haven't tested that yet. You're right about the Rockville wedges though. You have to be right on top of the light to get it to work lol. These are not like that. At my gig last week, I know I had a light at least 75 feet away from me and the remote worked with no problem.
The rockwedges only have an IR remote so you have to have the remote pointed directly at the sensor. These use an RF remote so you get a better signal. I had a small Sunday wedding at noon after a late party night and just grabbed a case of these and a remote. It was in a decent size American Legion and was surprised to see that they all reacted so well to the remote.
Did you have to pay for any custom charges?
Nope. None at all.
Hi DJ 2Legit, approximately how many hours do they last during your gigs? Thx
I've used them on multiple gigs so far and keep them on either sound active or a color changing program the entire gig. 4 to 5 hours I've used them at a time and the battery is still half full at the end of my gigs.
@@DJ2Legit007 Many thanks for the information! 😊
What’s the Price for the package you picked up?
I bought these from Rick Webb. He charges more for them than Both Lighting does because he is the only authorized dealer in the USA. If you get this package directly from Both Lighting, the cost is around $694 for 8 lights and the charging case.
Here's a link to get 8 of them. Charging case included. $694.54
www.djnowlighting.com/products/8pcs-with-case-4x12w-wireless-dmx-led-uplighting-battery-powered-akku-mini-spot-uplights-for-wedding-djs-with-rf-remote?DIST=QkRA
had no idea that case was that small. 🎉
link to the lights? BO-RF4
Use this link to get 8 of them for only $694.54. Charging case included.
www.djnowlighting.com/products/8pcs-with-case-4x12w-wireless-dmx-led-uplighting-battery-powered-akku-mini-spot-uplights-for-wedding-djs-with-rf-remote?DIST=QkRA
Great Video !
Them lights are cool
These only have one dmx channel. Rockville also sells the one diode version of this light
Yep. Both also sells the one diode and 3 diode versions of this light too. Someone told me that Both lights and Rockville lights come from the same Chinese factory.
How much are they ?
Depending on where you order them from, they can be anywhere between $80 - $100 per light.