China's Plan for a CREWED Lunar Landing in 2029
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China has revealed plans to land two Chinese astronauts on the lunar surface by 2030, and is currently developing a heavy lift rocket, a crewed spacecraft, and a lunar lander to support this mission.
In this episode, we do a deep dive into the space hardware, the timelines, as well as a comparison with Apollo and Artemis.
The coming decade is going to be packed with lunar activity, both crewed and uncrewed!
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00:00 Introduction
00:50 China's robotic exploration program (Chang'e)
02:12 Crewed lunar exploration: early plans
03:44 Crewed lunar landing in 2029 (the Long March 10, NGCS, and lunar module)
07:00 Ground News
08:16 Mission profile (step-by-step)
10:27 Comparison with Apollo and Artemis
12:24 The timeline!
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Credits for various visuals: NASA, ESA, CMSA, CNSA, CALT, CASC, DSEL, SpaceX, Blue Origin, Lockheed Martin - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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No matter how many times you say Apollo went to the moon, it doesn't change that it didn't happen, and as for Artimush, it wouldn't have got round the moon without the early 1970s soviet rs25 rocket motors that the US bought a bulk lot of for the space shuttle program.
The Saturn V Never had the lifting capacity with its pathetic 50atmospheres rocket chamber pressure.
And Elons scrapped any plans for crew.
So don't be surprised if China is the first country to get a human above low earth orbit. They will need superconducting magnetic shielding to handle the radiation.
Lol @ "without media bias". What a charitable slogan when you really just mean overt bias sanitized. And in return, you hope that my fellow Chinese back home, who aren't so versed in "free world", will be naive just enough to fall for it. How I can't wait to go back to China. I'll be spilling the beans on how best to exploit "free world" "reporting".
I want to thank the viewers who noted that an earlier version of this video (uploaded only during a few minutes) had some b-roll missing at around ~4 minutes.
Considering the amount of time that was poured into this episode, this was a real life-saver. Thank you 😊
Unusual knowledge: Of all countries' space plans in the world, only China can complete them on time or even ahead of schedule.
I don't understand why only china able to match there dead line or launch its project before there actual date .
How they do that even NASA can't do that even they have largest budgets when we compare to other govt space agencies
@@kojotasunashe8547 I think as a Chinese, I can talk about my understanding of why China follows the space program it promised and realizes it within the deadline. First of all, when proposing a plan, there will be a strict project feasibility discussion plan, and there will be a discussion and certification that lasts for several years. During this discussion phase, its content will be continuously updated. When the final project plan is finalized, it will be written into the next five-year plan. After being written into the five-year plan, in the next five years, the space program will be carried out successively, and the realization cycle will be even longer. Take why China built its own space station as an example. At first, China wanted to cooperate with NASA, but the United States issued a bill prohibiting China from joining the US space cooperation program. Therefore, China had to start from scratch with difficult independent research and development, and the birth process of the Chinese version of the GPS positioning system was actually the same. He was rejected and had to develop independently. From the beginning of the project to the official network and the start of the global Beidou satellite communication service, it has gone through a long research and development cycle. The second reason is that once a certain space program is included in the five-year plan, it will not change with the change of new government. It can be seen that the reused award-winning project of American sapceX company has achieved success and has a great advantage of cost saving. Chinese officials have not yet revealed the relevant research plans.
@@kojotasunashe8547 因为计划的一部分，就像上司给你的工作一样必须完成
NASA is leaded by politicians,but scientist in china@@kojotasunashe8547
@@kojotasunashe8547cultural and social system
China : can we join the ISS?
USA : NO never!
China : ok hold my beer....
Hahaha 🤣😂
Hold my tsingtao
And still he stands there holding the beer for ever!😂
China: were going to land men on the moon
Usa: that's soo 1969
@@mike4769 or they would have you believe…
This has been an absolutely amazing episode 10/10. Greetings from Argentina.
You omitted to mention the fact that the Chang'e 5 sample returm mission did something that no one else has done: the first autonomous lunar orbital docking, which is also the first autonomous orbital docking around any extraterrestrial body in human history.
thanks for mentioning it
China’s plan for a manned lunar landing in 2029 are truly exciting. Many thanks for a great video in which you explain the evolution of the landing vehicle. Another potentially wonderful achievement for China’s space research
Half a century too late, ask Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the MOON .
@@Arturo-lapaz LOL
Love your program! Keep up the good work!
Anything that heats up the space race and gets more funding directed to space exploration is a huge win. Looking forward to seeing Chinese boots on lunar soil.
This version looks great…Especially detailed and informative video…great job 加油👏
Thanks Jeffrey!
Great update - always welcome your presentations on the many aspects of the Chinese space programmes. Still my most popular for many reasons 👍👍😀
Really enjoyed the step by step technical aspects and requirements. Well researched and presented.
Thanks for your support! ☺️
00:00: 🌕 China plans to have astronauts on the moon within the next seven years, aiming to establish a long-term presence on the moon.
3:16: 🚀 China is reshuffling its plans for lunar missions, with a focus on sending astronauts to the Moon before 2030.
6:34: 🚀 China's lunar mission involves two launches, with a lunar module and ngcs spacecraft, and a short stay on the lunar surface.
9:40: 🚀 China's first crewed lunar mission, similar to the Apollo program, involves selecting samples, performing experiments, and using a lunar rover within a 10-kilometer distance of the landing zone.
12:36: 🚀 China and Artemis are planning multiple lunar missions between 2025 and 2030, including a lunar research station in the 2030s.
Recap by Tammy AI
Great lots of labor can be used to build space colonies.
🎉🎉🎉another good episode! Thank u, Jean!
I like China's approach to this, it's simple and realistic. All the futuristic stuff can come later. 😂
That is socialism in a nutshell, so this shouldn’t be surprising lol
Loord Modi seid vii ar a vedi poowerphul an supaapoower advans contri. In a few shoort yeears, vii wiil beuld a spaes baes on Mars befoor cpp cuuld evan beuld Mara rokiits
Made in China😂😂😂😂. But they do better than India. This I will give to China. At lease some countries bought J17. China love to exaggerate but the Indian is just too honest.
@@dylangtech 这与社会制度无关，制定合理计划然后实现它，这不是常理吗？
Since 9 years china didnt send any crew to moon ...why ? India plan for next year after soft landing . See the difference 😂
Thank you, Jean.
Your presentations are well researched, informative and balanced.
Thanks Richard, glad you enjoy them 🙂
🙂+1🙂
Any wumao could put up such fake proppganda.
Very interesting and informative. Thank you so much for this content. Will be looking out for you in the future.
Interesting bs? Lol
Wonderful infomative video! Keep it up DongfangHour!
I thought i had this channel on bell notification! Tours out was off but just got it back. Thank you for this amazing episode
Wumaos are just so fake n hillarious.😂😂😂
Thanks so much DongfangHour for your good job report and hard work to share your knowledge to all ! ❤👍🙏
Greetings from Malaysia, Jean...have been waiting impatiently for your latest video! Keep up the great work.
Thanks Meiling!
Loord Modi seid vii ar a vedi poowerphul an supaapoower advans contri. In a few shoort yeears, vii wiil beuld a spaes baes on Mars befoor cpp cuuld evan beuld Mara rokiits
They will expose a thousand lies in the past.
@Xrabittgaming: That's what the U.S is deathly afraid of! Hard as they might attempt to try the U.S will not be able to the Chinese and will only make matters worse for themselves by attempting
Wow, this is so exciting !! I can't wait to see this happen... Thank you for another great video Dongfang Hour
Thank you for your summary and updates🙂🙏👍🙏🙂
Thank you very informative
Dongfang hour is getting better and better,... Great work man
Awesome content!
Keep continuing to make those amazing video contents about the Chinese Space race.
Great report, DongFang Hour, well presented as always. Looking forward to your future article on the International Lunar Research Station.
Hello from New Zealand.🇳🇿🇨🇳🇷🇺
i hope to see dongfang hour covering this when it happens!
He will do it with few babies in his hands by then
Count on me! 😁
Very informative video. TY from the UK.
incredible episode bravo!
That tether system for catching the rocket, amazing!
I was stunned when I saw that. However, it is probably just as reliable as a catch system as the SpaceX chopsticks.
I am confused about how the cables will be able to survive the violence of the deceleration thrust plume.
This is pretty close to what I dreamt up as an alternative when I first saw the SpaceX chopsticks idea. As an engineer this system seems less sensitive to exact positioning than the chopsticks. In addition cables are lighter than chopsticks which allows them to be moved more quickly and/or with less power and the springiness of the cables appears beneficial too. Of course cables can break but it is possible to have multiple as a backup and cables can be made very strong too. I would expect that the chopsticks are preferable if the booster can be landed very precisely but the cables give more catching flexibility if the landing is a bit off. In any case the cable solution looks like a very good idea; maybe some amateurs/universities could do some evaluation with scale models. I don' t think it would be a big deal copying some good idea from the Chinese.
@@clay-tw5gc As far as I see the cables will still be quite far sideways when the exhaust plume passes through the square formed by the cables. The cables move in only when the engines are already below the level of the cables. Furthermore the cables could be under an overhead protection initially. I would be mostly worried that the cables damage the booster skin during the catch.
The comparison with Apollo and Artemis is a good point to extend: first you can add USSR's crewed lunar landing plan into comparison, second you can compare the whole process of 4 missions' profile in the form of 4 step-by-step videos playing simultaneously on screen. That would be intuitive and fun.
Thanks buddy for your hard work and good info ! 👍💪🙏😀
Great info. Won’t find this info in western media
china will do it, and i can't wait!
What a rich content episode on lunar crewed missions. So much great info, well organized and researched.
Things already heating up for non-crew lunar explorations as well. India's Chandrayaan-2 lunar lander entered lunar orbit this last week, and Russia's Luna 25 (Luna-Glob-Lander) is scheduled to launch Aug 10th. China's Chang'e 6 lander in 2024. Very exciting times.
Bravo Chania, keep going
I'm going to apply for the position of "Space Chef" when the application process opens. LOL
Looking forward to see China live broadcasting from the moon via quantum satalite.
Loord Modi seid vii ar a vedi poowerphul an supaapoower advans contri. In a few shoort yeears, vii wiil beuld a spaes baes on Mars befoor cpp cuuld evan beuld Mara rokiits
impossible to live broadcast from the moon, you will only be getting images
@@zackwang9314 It will definitely be broadcast live, China has established a communication satellite orbiting the moon
@@zackwang9314 i think when amstrong went to moon, they did the live broadcast ?? How come?
@@creatormaxi8324 by making the video quality low, and having a really low frame rate to reduce the data needed to be transmitted
I'm glad. I hope China continues to make rapid progress. I want them worrking like crazy to build space stations, Moon stations, Mars stations. Only the fear and envy on our part to such achievements will our own nations be motivated to outdo them. Lets dive deep into a new 21st century space race. Humanity benefits.
@bvusjxlee3941 Lol of course its a space race. It's a race for technological superiority.
@@bvusjxlee3941
So they just conveniently come up with plans for a lunar base, Just as Artemis is announced?
Sure.
50 years of waiting for a US moon base. Thank God we know that the Chinese will finally build it.
Chinese 'crewed' moob base still has to wait until the late 2030s at the earliest, ILRS is mostly focusing on a robotic moon base at first. So... if nothing else, US might build the crewed base first.
@@DOSFS Americans haven't caught up to Japanese 60s bullet trains. US moon base with Jewish space lasers. Thanks for the humour, made me laugh.
There is always a reason why they haven’t done something Iike this. If there is something more they can learn from a moon base they should do it but I think the amount of info they gathered from the moon made them realize a moon base would be expensive and accomplish nothing. Maybe space tourism is the main goal here.
@@DontUputThatEvilOnMe Cmon, America spent $1.7 Trillion on multiple failed F-35 jets that could have housed ALL the US homeless 29 times over and could have also been used for a moon base. Use military money, the rest of the world are sick and tired of the US helping countries by bombing them.
@@DOSFSBefore 2030, it is 2029
I'm thrilled by these news because if China says they'll do it, THEY'LL DO IT. Also, we all know Artemis is not gonna happen, so yeah, the future of space will be brought by China's hand! ❤️
We all know Artemis is not gonna happen.....LMAO, explain.....Artemis 1 has already been accomplished by sending Orion Spacecraft , Artemis 2 with crew mission is set to launch in 2024 and they have selected 4 astronauts for this
Another unbeliever.
A moon landing would be good, but I’d rather see China achieve a just society by 2030.
anyway they will have to do it in 2028 by hook or by crook as the politician and planner's life is not involved.
Thank you for such an informative video about China's space technologies. Bravo, way to go, China👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks for the information
The People's Republic of China was established on October 1, 1949, and 2029 marks its 80th anniversary
China officially announced they will do it before 2030, and yes I think they will do it in 2029 because of the reason you mentioned.
Thanks!
Thanks Greg!
Brilliant.great info.roll on China
Insightful always.keep it up.
Thank you for this excellent update on the Chinese lunar exploration programme. A future episode about the ILRSCO would be most welcome!
Great video 👍
Down-to-earth, step-by-step, not in a hurry, not rash, have a plan to move towards a goal
It’s a pretty cool architecture with LM10 and even cooler with LM9
10:27 - Yes, the early "rendezvous in lunar orbit" concepts developed while Saturn V was still uncertainty.
China has already landed on the dark side of the moon with its rover vehicle operating on its landscape for awhile now. It’s next lunar mission to land their astronauts on the moon with Russia by 2029 is a possibility where both nations could build lunar stations on the surface for research & strategic reasons. This program is in progress already for the last few years, maybe in the final stages of its development.
Bro nobody cares if china landed in the dark side , we will watch and see , good luck to China , good luck to my cousin who works in CNSA
Pooh PAID Bot , It's India which landed on the Dark side of Moon , First country to land on the dark side of Moon .
@@exploreandunravel5773 。。。😆😆
Better still, India owns the moon.
@@exploreandunravel5773 It is absolutely great to see what India reached this last week with the Chandrayaan-3 mission. It was only India's second attempt to land on the Moon and they achieved their goal to land on the South pole (Which is not the backside of the Moon as you claim. But India is nevertheless the first nation ever to land on the South pole, which is also a impressive achievement.).
So yes India did a hell of a job, and I do think that the whole world does applaud for them, but China is the only nation that ever landed a rover on the backside of the Moon. Not even Russia and/or the US could do this yet.
But maybe that it is time to set all nationalistic feelings a side ? We can be happy for every nation who does reach it's goals and helps humanity to improve their knowledge. ✌ (Greatings from the Netherlands, who will never land on the Moon. 😉)
That's quite an impressive program they've got in the works, but there's a lot that has to go right if they want to make by 2029. Best of luck to them. Thanks for the update Jean!🚀🚀👍👍
Cheers.
Pretty exciting stuff, I'll definitely keep monitoring the progress. BTW Chinese astronauts are called taikonauts.
Very cool, if they success, all the world can celebrate.
Celebrate the fact that china is 50 years behind the US. 😂
@@ChadwickTheChad China doesn' have hollywood or an advanced film industry 50 years ago 😂
@@zackwang9314 There is equipment on the moon used to bounce lasers off for measuring - how did it get there, little idiot?
@@zackwang9314you make me laugh to death
I have been hearing this every decades since 1990
Very intersting landing system using ropes on 5th minute was showed. Intertsting, has it more advantages than SpaceX landing system on the rocket fire?
Is that CAD model available anywhere?
I feel relaxed when China Space program says they will send astronauts to the Moon - because they always meet their milestones on the plan.
Thanks
Moon buggy?
Luv ya shirt, dude!
bro, it's Taikonaut, not astronaut.
Let’s hope they head over to the Apollo landing areas and put an end to the “we never landed on the moon guys”.
Maybe China has their own SKubrick China lands man on moon this Xmas YES !
按照中国人的性格，不管你们是否到过月球，我们都不会说，就算到了非说不可的时候，大概率还是会说你们到过月球。
Love your Tshirt！
Amazing
Great graphical representation of the timelines.
China's space development is incredibly impressive. Looking forward for more fascinating updates. Thank you Dongfang for sll the great reports.
Thank you very informative - Shout out from ASIAN ✌✌✌
Never knew that Asian people had been looking at the stars 🌟 with dreams and wonder 🤔..
Hmmmm.. I thought that the European does that.. hmmmm..
well done Asia 🌏..
Hmmmm.. if I could encourage my African people to look at the stars too ..hmmmm 🤔...
@@peaceleader7315 sounds like you are just not interested in progress in the east
Or you have being limited by the western MSM and propaganda lol
Great video! Great presentation and audio! Professional studio equipment counts for a lot!
I hope that something will change the current political situation from suspicion and isolation to close cooperation and mutual respect. We all want to explore and colonize the moon and it will be far easier for everyone if we can finally move beyond the petty politics and the Cold War mentality of the past. Until that time comes, I wish China great success in their quest.
不光是中国，追求星辰大海，探索宇宙是全人类的梦想
Nice
Excellent intonation, no profanities, good English, a serious matter described in a clear, yet easy and pleasant description.
It would be very interesting if china launched a moon mission before the announced schedule. And be fully successful, before the Americans even know what happened
Another really interesting episode. A shame global politics make international space collaboration so difficult. Related to this, is there an international standard for docking systems? Could Chinese, Russian and NASA space craft dock with each other in lunar orbit?
Technically there is an international standard, It’s how the Russian and US sides of the ISS are connected. Currently China uses its own docking standard based off of the same standard. While not currently physically or politically possible it could be in the future.
@@PhazzeeYeehawapart from the way the individual ISS modules are connected, Russian and NASA use different docking ports for their crew and cargo space craft.
After 2018, Chinese docking mechanism is compatible with IDSS (rev D). The Wikipedia page says compatible with APAS, which is an outdated information.
US once rejected China in space station will soon beg China for consideration to allow US to join in space exploration.
@@qiufusheng3058 I was thinking that the NASA lunar gateway could be used as a rescue island by China or Russia if anybody had problems in lunar Orbit. The gateway (currently planned to be tiny) could be extended in future by other countries modules.
Your Chinese pronunciation is impressive 😮 I was impressed
I love how CNSA have feasible plans
I wish them luck! More footprints on the moon are a good thing.
I do wish they used the LM-5 with more launches - e.g. launching the modules without fuel, docking them on orbit and fueling them. A brand new rocket, even one with proven engines, is a recipe for delays. Even more so considering it will be thrown away in favor of a new one already in development. In any case, I suppose all options were considered by much smarter people so they had good reasons for it.
"More footprints on the moon..."? There are footprints on the moon?
When did that happen? I know those are not human footprints.
Great it would be the first ever real manned moon landing
Tosspot alert !!!
@@sidstevens9035 briTITS alert
Now a video of commercial mining technology being developed for space industry available to the consumer market.
I think you meant the TLI payload was equivalent to the Falcon Heavy, not the Falcon 9
Ugh, yes of course 😧 thanks for pointing that out…
@@DongfangHour It's a tough job presenting, and being on the spot. I'm just trying to ensure the record is set straight in the these comments.
The US started their lunar program in 1961 and landed in 1969 which was a monumental achievement. We now have better knowledge and resources to do this, but moon landings are still no easy task. Wish them the best of luck.
The United States 🇺🇸 landed on the moon? The whole world is saying that it is fake news, and Hollywood helped to do it. How hard is it to go to the moon now?
You believe US did go to the moon with racktag DOS technology?
LOL...
Wonder how they landed on the moon when technology was still primitive by today's standard.
50 years forward, the US can easily land a man on the moon in a heartbeat.
@@wongpohchan9485 Well, spacecraft have to be built and tested, physicists and mathematicians have to build models to accurately plan the operation and those models must be tested to improve the accuracy. Finally, spacecraft are very expensive and difficult to build, requiring custom fabrication. This is why it takes years to do and also why the US can’t just do it “easy,” it will take years of will and planning to pull off even though they went in the past.
If u really believe the usa landed on moon in 1969...I got bad news for you
We can see if the original moon landings were real or faked
Although there are many skeptics, China's top space workers say it is true.😢Questioning requires evidence. In China, most people admit that the United States did indeed land on the moon🎉
There are a lot of American equipment on the moon, And the trajectory of the Lunar rover. No matter what, we must be rational
It pretty much resembles a miniaturized apollo mission
New Space Race!
China maybe use reusable rocket to land on moon and the main rocket... And maybe use plasma technology too...
The US has suddenly found interest in the Moon, only because of the Chinese progress in space. Similarly, the first time the US became interested in the Moon was because of Russia's first satellite. For the US, it's all about competition. All about the need to show itself better than others.
Same as BBB world. Being reactive and not planned properly is the downfall of the USA plans and prestige. This is not the 70s where people can be tricked by Hollywood clips.
A smart way to do it, always go with the earth's rotation and never against it.
Good!
Only 60 years behind the USA.
pretty sure nothing happened 50 years ago, only in a hollywood studio
@@zackwang9314and China can't still develop the same type of superheavy lift rocket used in Apollo 11
This plan is a lot simpler and easier to implement than the current Artemis plan.
NASA should have employed a similar startegy with one SLS launching a fully fueled lander to the Moon and a second SLS rocket launching a crewed Orion spacecraft to meet up in Lunar orbit.
Would have required a higher SLS production cadence be implemented faster, but that's just a production/logistics problem, nothing compared to the extremely complex architectures and tech development required by both Artemis landers.
Or just use two falcon heavy, SLS is way too expensive😂.
As USA has got too much money.
@@qiyuxuan9437 Each country should make good use of the technology it is good at.
China is more mature in space docking technology.
The United States has experience in building large rockets because of its previous competition with the Soviet Union.
No. NASA isn’t looking to repeat what’s already been done. It’s trying to innovate and build the advanced technologies that will enable human exploration of the solar system and colonies off world, technology China will eventually steal once the US has perfected it (as always). Starship & New Glenn will revolutionise the way we look at building things in space and solving the boil-off problem with Hydrogen & LOX + Rapid reusability will truly start a new era. Stop being short sighted and think bigger.
DF Hour (4:30) compares/equates Long March 10 capacity of 27 tonne to TLI, with Falcon 9?
But that SpaceX launchers' capacity to TLI is only 8 tonne; and Falcon Heavy isn't much better at 10 tonne to TLI.
New Glenn could be considered comparable, at least 15 tonne to TLI (Blue Moon, empty).
Long March 10 doesn’t exist yet. Falcon Heavy is 22t TLI
China is aiming for "all human-beings", because that what in Chinese people’s blood. One of the core spirit in Chinese culture is "Unity", there is a proverb in China says: "团结就是力量！" "The unity is the power." And"世界人民大团结！" "Let world-wide people unit together!" Look how harmony and tie together their life is between 56 ethnic groups. We say: "五十六个民族，五十六朵花。" means "56 ethnic groups are 56 fabulous flowers 💐." China is not longing for the "world’s leader or police", we are longing for the rejuvenation for China, and improvement for all, including you who is reading these lines.😊
Nasa has never been to moon. Landing and coming back? It is a dream.
Spielberg will make it happen!
@@lotsofthisandthat9791 Stanley Kubrick did it in 1969. This time, the movie will look more realistic.
Whackadoodle alert !!!
yall literally watched 15 minutes of Chinese powerpoint and CGI animations and you have the gall to accuse America of having a fake space program. smdh.
@@leeswecho Nasa does not know how to go to the moon and land now. Only stupid iditos beleives they did it 60 years ago.
Superb insight and its possible up to a point . How much fuel is require to take off the moon and what surface would enable it. Are the algorithms including the weight for the exliftration launch. How difficult will the landing be when carrying enough fuel to take off and reach orbit release velocity.
The first landing of humans into the moon will be awesome.