Agreeed !!! I’m good with the Xl and my icarus grip never changing but I think they discontinued the 15 rd mag I’ve been carry two 17 rounders now for two weeks and the base plate is smaller then the 15 round base plate
This is perfect now with the ex macro grip module being released we can get magazines that will fit the new grip module as well as the XL for all of us XL owners
Very cool, The X macro is pretty cool but I am more interested in the newly announced Xmacro tacops, same size grip and slide but instead of a built-in compensator you have the 3.7 inch barrel of the XL. Personally I would rather have the extra velocity as even the standard 365 is not hard to manage. The tacops comes with four 17rd magazines, and it’s nice to know that I would be able to slap those in my 365 SAS in a pinch.
Good news that the new 17 round mag is made in the USA. The others were all made in Italy. This is a big deal if you understand how manufacturing will stop in many European cities this winter as they run out of fuel and electricity. Excellent that Sig made this change.
That’s actually bad news. The P365 had them both made in Italy (Mec-Gar) and USA (Check-Mate) to meet supply. The Italian made Mec-Gar mags are noticeably higher quality than the USA made Check-Mate mags. This is particularly true of the surface finish. The USA Check-Mate mags rust like crazy in humidity.
I've recently been working on a P365 XMacro build. I started with a standard XMacro non comped version. I recently purchased a Tier 1 concealed holster setup for the xl frame size with a tlr-7 sub light. The advantage I've found over getting the 365xl holster is that with the Wilson Combat p365 x macro frame with the short style sig rail you can run a x macro size frame and an xl size frame in the same holster. Essentially two guns in one holster. One for deep concealment t-shirt days and one for sweater/jacket days. However I've found myself enjoying the size of the XL frame more and with all the magazine extensions and everything you can get good capacity. I think the idea of these mag extensions are a great thing because it essentially does the same thing as having a bigger frame. I just wish the factory sig adapter for the 17 rounder would add an additional palm swell area to match the back strap.
I had an XL and an X before the Macro came out. The week it came out, I lucked out and bought a module and the two mags from someone. I put the Macro grip on my XL so I've had this setup for a bit now and love it. I bought an extra 17 round magazine the day SIG released them and tried it on my X. I'm not a fan of the look, but I'll probably carry at as a backup since my X is my primary carry gun.
@@TheArkansasGunGuy as soon as I saw the Macro, I knew what I was going to do to my XL. The XL and X feel like the exact gun so the grip totally changed it. Now I feel like I actually have two different guns.
I did go by the gun store and the guy took the bottom half off of a 365xl and swapped it for the xmacro and it works! Get the bottom half and a couple of 17 round mags and save a lot of $$$!😊
So many options. I’m loving the 365 platform. Currently really enjoy the XL with a flush fit mag with a magguts spring so I have a nice tight package with 14+1. It’s great to have a factory 17 round option now.
Thanks for the tip Sir. I love my p365xl too and although I just got the macro, my xl will most certainly not be accumalating any dust on it. Once the prices are normalized I'll definetely play Sig lego and customize my own version. I do have to agree with you that the 17 rounder does look a tad ackward on the xl but it was worth trying. One thing I can say with full confidence is that SIG SAUER ROCKS! They've definetely got some geniuses behind the scenes hitting it out of the park. Their customer service gets an A in my case as they have always gone above and beyond. I've got to get me some good blinders because now the 320 is starting to look good too but I've got to draw the line in the sand for now. 🇺🇸🔥👍
Sig is on fire with innovation!!! Crazy how much awesome they have cranked out this year!!! Also have had good luck w their service. Thank you so much for watching!!!
Perfect now you can have the 17 round mag in for home defense and switch out 12rd with magguts spring for 14+1 for edc and still thinner/smaller then a g19 👌🏽
Exactly what I was looking for I carry a 19 a lot and have been looking into this for almost a year now. Waiting to “pull the trigger” on it now and I think nows the time.
Hey Arkansas, great video and Thank You! I have a 365X and have been thinking about getting a 17 Round Magazine to go with my 4-12 round magazines. After watching your video, I think I'll pass and focus on the new Sig P365 X-Macro Tac Ops which comes with 4-17 Round Magazines. You have a new Subscriber! Thanks again for this video!!!!
Why not just get the xmacro grip module from sig and throw it on your xl instead of spending the $800 on a complete macro? One of the biggest draw backs for me with the macro is that the weapon gets very hot after only a few mags because of the comped slide
Macro grip could be the right call - although I am /was fascinated by that compensator - didn’t know about the heating issue - thanks for letting me know that - and THANKS for watching !!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy I can agree. I put all the Macro parts on my WC XL grip. Love it but it does get hot. I’m going to have my gunsmith put some viper cuts in the slide. Hoping to look cool and deal with the heat since I regularly put 300+ through it in a range visit. Gets toasty
You can buy the macro grip module straight from sig finally. I think it’s only 80 bucks and then your 365xl will have a full length dust cover and 1913 pic rail and the 17rd capacity. It’s a nice set up. Or use a regular 365 slide with a threaded barrel and comp from Parkermountainmachine and the macro grip module. Then you’ll have a cheaper macro with the comp and rail and 17rd capacity. You’re welcome 😎
Have you tried the mag guts yet? I bought 2 kits for my 365X to make the 12 rd mags into 14 round mags. I think that having 14 in a more easily concealed pistol is where the X really shines over the Macro. That said, I still bought the Macro Tac Ops because the 365 is such a joy to shoot. I chose the tac ops over the compensated version because I think that the compensation is marginal and the value of getting 4 - 17 rd mags with the tac ops along with the magwell we’re a better fit and value for me. It shoots great but strangely enough I feel that the 365X is less snappy. Both are tack drivers. Great vid, thank you for sharing.
I want a setup like this since I love the idea of having a manual safety still. The only thing I’d miss from the Macro is that you can throw an RDO on it without removing the rear sights.
Yeah / on striker fired I just like having that safety when there is one in the pipe. Also hate losing rear sites with optics!!! THANKS for watching!!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy Can you swap the frame ? the macro dont have manual safety but your xl does have manual safety. Can you use the macro frame in your xl upper anyway?
@@TheAngelacevedo actually I can’t do anything w my frame yer. Will need to wait until Sig offers a macro:frame with a safety. The way they release stuff maybe I won’t have to wait too long!! (:
Same here I want the Mac but don't need it because I got the xl with 2 15 rounders..think I'll just get 1 macro mag and get someone to get the other for my bday lol
Not bad for even just a back up mag. I picked up the Icarus Precision grip and it’s everything people say it is. Their Macro grip is being released soon too.
The main reason I would go with the XMacro module is for a fuller grip. One ince grip is to small. Don’t need a Saftey check, seems unnecessary. Nice vid. Very odd with the mag, though.
I’d be pretty curious to just buy the firing assembly, with a XL frame with the external safety, and a macro slide with the comp. Easy to conceal the 12 round mag vs the 17 but has the 17 as a backup mag. Might be worth checking into
The 365 X-Macro has a much wider (and sharper) rail which means you need new holsters. I love the Macro grip for my XXL hands. But I really don't want to make 4 or 5 holsters obsolete.
I really want the Macro but man my XL is hard to beat. Hard to justify spending that much more when I love my XL so much (and I also have all the holsters I don’t want to toss!). THANKS for watching!!
That x macro magazine follower looks an awful lot like the magguts follower. I've been thinking about getting a couple of these. Maybe I'll pull the trigger today...
Or just wait til magguts releases their 17 round mags. They will somehow make it look uniformed unlike these sig mags that looks like it came off another gun.
This is interesting. X-Macro mags will not work in my XL. A mag can be inserted, it seats, and the mag will eject, but the slide stop/slide release does not function. When the slide locks back, it gets jammed in that position until you eject the mag. I have two XLs, one with a stock slide release lever, and one with an extended slide release. Neither works. Have you encountered this problem?
Strange. I have not actually. I have just standard stock 365xl. Have not modified in anyway. Shoot the XMacro mag about once every two weeks and has always worked flawlessly. So strange. I’ll dig around on forums snd stuff online to see if I see others w same issue. THANKS SO MUCH for watching!!
it SHOUD but i can't swear to it as I don't have the Wilson 365 Grip....yet. I have their grip for my P320 and the Sig magazines work great in there.... maybe even better!! (: THANK YOU for watching!
SharkCoasttactical.com. Fast service. They shipped it maybe an hour after I placed the order button. Came couple days later! Was going to order from Sig but their new contract with FedEx requires someone to be home for signature. THANK YOU for watching!!
all great but there are 2 things I do not comprehend..lol 1- all the hype with loosing rear sights on 1st gen xl slide,,,, once optic is installed your sights are useless unless you spend another $100 bucks or so for supressor height sights,,,if you must have gen 2 xl because it looks cool - I got it, I like it as well, but do not think that suddenly you have a superior weapon over 1st gen xl,,,if your optic fails you still won't be able to co-witness,,,,, 2- people waiting for macro grip with safety- that one baffles my mind to the point that I become dumber than dumb,,,get a blade and cut two notches and your problem is over,,,,,
It looks stupid. I’m waiting for tactical development to make a better one. He’s working on it. I bought a macro and put everything on a Wilson combat XL grip. Sold the macro grip. Too big to conceal easily. Now I essentially have a comp’d XL. I use the 12 round mag with a +2 magguts kit and the 17’s on the range and as a backup.
It does add some length to the grip but still super thin and easy to carry. I actually carry with the 12 round mag inserted and carry the 17 for backup . Thanks so much for watching!
This is literally the conversation I've had with myself about a 100 times since the Macro was released. Thanks for sharing!!!
Thank YOU for watching!!! Honestly don’t love the way it looks but do love 5 extra rounds. Now just makes me want a macro even more!! Thanks again!!
Makes me want the macro less and a p365x look like the winner for budget buy.
Agreeed !!! I’m good with the Xl and my icarus grip never changing but I think they discontinued the 15 rd mag I’ve been carry two 17 rounders now for two weeks and the base plate is smaller then the 15 round base plate
@@RedDawnReadiness 15 is not discontinued…..and magguts makes a +2 for it now as well. If you have one you can go to 17 rounds for $30 some bucks.
@@jagpilotohio whenever i check the website it says coming soon you got one?
I can't wait till magguts comes out with their spring for the 17 rounder. 19 + 1 in a P365XL 🤯.
Crazy how fast they develop stuff for these guns!!
This is perfect now with the ex macro grip module being released we can get magazines that will fit the new grip module as well as the XL for all of us XL owners
Very cool, The X macro is pretty cool but I am more interested in the newly announced Xmacro tacops, same size grip and slide but instead of a built-in compensator you have the 3.7 inch barrel of the XL. Personally I would rather have the extra velocity as even the standard 365 is not hard to manage. The tacops comes with four 17rd magazines, and it’s nice to know that I would be able to slap those in my 365 SAS in a pinch.
Glad to see the Macro mags are making it into the wild now. Great way to add additional capacity if you carry a spare mag.
Good news that the new 17 round mag is made in the USA. The others were all made in Italy. This is a big deal if you understand how manufacturing will stop in many European cities this winter as they run out of fuel and electricity. Excellent that Sig made this change.
That’s actually bad news. The P365 had them both made in Italy (Mec-Gar) and USA (Check-Mate) to meet supply. The Italian made Mec-Gar mags are noticeably higher quality than the USA made Check-Mate mags. This is particularly true of the surface finish. The USA Check-Mate mags rust like crazy in humidity.
I've recently been working on a P365 XMacro build. I started with a standard XMacro non comped version. I recently purchased a Tier 1 concealed holster setup for the xl frame size with a tlr-7 sub light. The advantage I've found over getting the 365xl holster is that with the Wilson Combat p365 x macro frame with the short style sig rail you can run a x macro size frame and an xl size frame in the same holster. Essentially two guns in one holster. One for deep concealment t-shirt days and one for sweater/jacket days. However I've found myself enjoying the size of the XL frame more and with all the magazine extensions and everything you can get good capacity. I think the idea of these mag extensions are a great thing because it essentially does the same thing as having a bigger frame. I just wish the factory sig adapter for the 17 rounder would add an additional palm swell area to match the back strap.
I have two XL's.
One for each hand.
Now I just wanna get the 17 round Magazines for my XL's
I had an XL and an X before the Macro came out. The week it came out, I lucked out and bought a module and the two mags from someone. I put the Macro grip on my XL so I've had this setup for a bit now and love it. I bought an extra 17 round magazine the day SIG released them and tried it on my X. I'm not a fan of the look, but I'll probably carry at as a backup since my X is my primary carry gun.
Same - really don’t love the way it looks. But do appreciate the extra capacity. Now just want Macro even more!! THANK YOU for watching !!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy as soon as I saw the Macro, I knew what I was going to do to my XL. The XL and X feel like the exact gun so the grip totally changed it. Now I feel like I actually have two different guns.
@@CMH_1975 why you decided to carry X instead of XL?
@@tonyhuynh6789 it's just a little more comfortable for me in the summer. I have my Macro on me now since it's colder and I have a hoodie on.
I did go by the gun store and the guy took the bottom half off of a 365xl and swapped it for the xmacro and it works! Get the bottom half and a couple of 17 round mags and save a lot of $$$!😊
Great idea!! THANK YOU for watching!!
So many options. I’m loving the 365 platform. Currently really enjoy the XL with a flush fit mag with a magguts spring so I have a nice tight package with 14+1. It’s great to have a factory 17 round option now.
Agree. Sig is killing it with innovation. Never been much of a striker fire guy but I sure do shoot the 365 well!!
and THANK YOU for watching!!
Thanks for the tip Sir. I love my p365xl too and although I just got the macro, my xl will most certainly not be accumalating any dust on it. Once the prices are normalized I'll definetely play Sig lego and customize my own version. I do have to agree with you that the 17 rounder does look a tad ackward on the xl but it was worth trying. One thing I can say with full confidence is that SIG SAUER ROCKS! They've definetely got some geniuses behind the scenes hitting it out of the park. Their customer service gets an A in my case as they have always gone above and beyond. I've got to get me some good blinders because now the 320 is starting to look good too but I've got to draw the line in the sand for now. 🇺🇸🔥👍
Sig is on fire with innovation!!! Crazy how much awesome they have cranked out this year!!! Also have had good luck w their service. Thank you so much for watching!!!
Great Video, Just bought one for my P365X.
I think they are finally getting al little easier to find these days. Did you get yours from Sig? THANKS for watching!!!
Perfect now you can have the 17 round mag in for home defense and switch out 12rd with magguts spring for 14+1 for edc and still thinner/smaller then a g19 👌🏽
Exactly what I was looking for I carry a 19 a lot and have been looking into this for almost a year now. Waiting to “pull the trigger” on it now and I think nows the time.
You can definitely get a compensator and it works so well
The macro module is back in stock on Sig’s site as of 15 minutes ago and I just snagged one with a 17 rd mag for my XL! 🎃
Hey Arkansas, great video and Thank You! I have a 365X and have been thinking about getting a 17 Round Magazine to go with my 4-12 round magazines. After watching your video, I think I'll pass and focus on the new Sig P365 X-Macro Tac Ops which comes with 4-17 Round Magazines. You have a new Subscriber! Thanks again for this video!!!!
It is as difficult to find accessories for the P365X as it is to find a TH-cam gun commentator who realizes that the P365X even exists.
I had to use the follower off my 365xl in the 17rd macro mag. Works perfect.
Nice! I have an original 10rd P365 for pocket carry, with a 17rd mag for reload.
Why not just get the xmacro grip module from sig and throw it on your xl instead of spending the $800 on a complete macro?
One of the biggest draw backs for me with the macro is that the weapon gets very hot after only a few mags because of the comped slide
Macro grip could be the right call - although I am /was fascinated by that compensator - didn’t know about the heating issue - thanks for letting me know that - and THANKS for watching !!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy I can agree. I put all the Macro parts on my WC XL grip. Love it but it does get hot. I’m going to have my gunsmith put some viper cuts in the slide. Hoping to look cool and deal with the heat since I regularly put 300+ through it in a range visit. Gets toasty
@@jagpilotohio thank you for sharing that!! AND THANK YOU for watching!!
Never will I get the macro to replace my XL. The extra .6 barrel length adds power, compensators decrease velocity. Ordered mag though!
Thank you so much for watching and comments!!!!
You don't need the macro. You have option of a smaller grip or larger grip. No reason to get macro.
You can buy the macro grip module straight from sig finally. I think it’s only 80 bucks and then your 365xl will have a full length dust cover and 1913 pic rail and the 17rd capacity. It’s a nice set up. Or use a regular 365 slide with a threaded barrel and comp from Parkermountainmachine and the macro grip module. Then you’ll have a cheaper macro with the comp and rail and 17rd capacity. You’re welcome 😎
Very cool!! And THANK YOU for watching!
Threaded barrels & compensators are available for non compensated slides
Have you tried the mag guts yet? I bought 2 kits for my 365X to make the 12 rd mags into 14 round mags.
I think that having 14 in a more easily concealed pistol is where the X really shines over the Macro. That said, I still bought the Macro Tac Ops because the 365 is such a joy to shoot. I chose the tac ops over the compensated version because I think that the compensation is marginal and the value of getting 4 - 17 rd mags with the tac ops along with the magwell we’re a better fit and value for me. It shoots great but strangely enough I feel that the 365X is less snappy. Both are tack drivers.
Great vid, thank you for sharing.
i have not yet - several people have mentioned that so i need to look into it for sure!!! THANKS FOR WATCHING!!
I want a setup like this since I love the idea of having a manual safety still. The only thing I’d miss from the Macro is that you can throw an RDO on it without removing the rear sights.
Yeah / on striker fired I just like having that safety when there is one in the pipe. Also hate losing rear sites with optics!!!
THANKS for watching!!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy Can you swap the frame ? the macro dont have manual safety but your xl does have manual safety. Can you use the macro frame in your xl upper anyway?
@@TheAngelacevedo actually I can’t do anything w my frame yer. Will need to wait until Sig offers a macro:frame with a safety. The way they release stuff maybe I won’t have to wait too long!! (:
Same here I want the Mac but don't need it because I got the xl with 2 15 rounders..think I'll just get 1 macro mag and get someone to get the other for my bday lol
Macro frames are like $60. I personally don't like the compensator set up, so to me the XL slide on a macro frame may make more sense.
Not bad for even just a back up mag. I picked up the Icarus Precision grip and it’s everything people say it is. Their Macro grip is being released soon too.
Do you know when it’s being released? I want one for my XL.
@@shanebeck18 apparently black friday but you can preorder sooner but nobody knows when that will be. Prop around $400.
The extended 15 round mag looks better on the XL then the macro 17 round mag
agree 100%.
THANKS for watching by the way!!!
PMM barrel and comp
You’ll have a Xmacro
The main reason I would go with the XMacro module is for a fuller grip. One ince grip is to small. Don’t need a Saftey check, seems unnecessary. Nice vid. Very odd with the mag, though.
Thank you for watching!!!
I’d be pretty curious to just buy the firing assembly, with a XL frame with the external safety, and a macro slide with the comp. Easy to conceal the 12 round mag vs the 17 but has the 17 as a backup mag. Might be worth checking into
Thanks for doing this video.
Thank YOU for watching!!
nice video. Thanks
Thank YOU so much for watching!!!
i think the XL is the best compromise because it can take 12, 15 and now 17 rounds.
Really good point!!!! THANK YOU for watching!
If you don't wanna buy a whole extra gun, You could get a threaded barrel and comp for probably cheaper.
The 365 X-Macro has a much wider (and sharper) rail which means you need new holsters.
I love the Macro grip for my XXL hands. But I really don't want to make 4 or 5 holsters obsolete.
I really want the Macro but man my XL is hard to beat. Hard to justify spending that much more when I love my XL so much (and I also have all the holsters I don’t want to toss!). THANKS for watching!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy the macro grip frame is $79.
I really really like the grip …
I’m going to experiment with cutting the rail down or entirely off
That x macro magazine follower looks an awful lot like the magguts follower. I've been thinking about getting a couple of these. Maybe I'll pull the trigger today...
Or just wait til magguts releases their 17 round mags. They will somehow make it look uniformed unlike these sig mags that looks like it came off another gun.
Just buy the XMacro grip module and you’ll be golden.
I think the whole internet has just about talked me into that!! THANKS SO MUCH for watching and the comments!!
Could just get the macro slide
Looks to me like it doesn’t extend as far as the 15 rd fit the xl
I was thinking the same thing
This is interesting. X-Macro mags will not work in my XL. A mag can be inserted, it seats, and the mag will eject, but the slide stop/slide release does not function. When the slide locks back, it gets jammed in that position until you eject the mag. I have two XLs, one with a stock slide release lever, and one with an extended slide release. Neither works. Have you encountered this problem?
Strange. I have not actually. I have just standard stock 365xl. Have not modified in anyway. Shoot the XMacro mag about once every two weeks and has always worked flawlessly. So strange. I’ll dig around on forums snd stuff online to see if I see others w same issue. THANKS SO MUCH for watching!!
The 15 round mag seems bigger somehow.
Question I have a P365xl with sig std xray sites,,,,, seem not very bright What is your oppinion ????
I wonder what the size difference is between the XL, Macro and P320 compact?
I don’t have the Macro yet but I did the 320 vs 365xl earlier
@SIG SAUER, Inc P320 X-Compact vs P365 XL
th-cam.com/video/Up-GbrawHes/w-d-xo.html
Does that mag still fit onto the Wilson combat variant grips
it SHOUD but i can't swear to it as I don't have the Wilson 365 Grip....yet. I have their grip for my P320 and the Sig magazines work great in there.... maybe even better!! (:
THANK YOU for watching!
Appears to have a smaller footprint than the 15 rounder.
It does slightly.
Thanks for sharing.
I have the X Macro. Best P365 out there. Grip is excellent for big hands.
I want one eventually!!!! (X-Ten next on my list)
Where did you get the 17rd magazine from? Sig Sauer website or somewhere else please advise thank you.
SharkCoasttactical.com. Fast service. They shipped it maybe an hour after I placed the order button. Came couple days later!
Was going to order from Sig but their new contract with FedEx requires someone to be home for signature.
THANK YOU for watching!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy thank you
Does anyone else have a problem getting the 17th rd in the new magazines ?
Have not tried yet. Hope to shoot this weekend!!
all great but there are 2 things I do not comprehend..lol
1- all the hype with loosing rear sights on 1st gen xl slide,,,, once optic is installed your sights are useless unless you spend another $100 bucks or so for supressor height sights,,,if you must have gen 2 xl because it looks cool - I got it, I like it as well, but do not think that suddenly you have a superior weapon over 1st gen xl,,,if your optic fails you still won't be able to co-witness,,,,,
2- people waiting for macro grip with safety- that one baffles my mind to the point that I become dumber than dumb,,,get a blade and cut two notches and your problem is over,,,,,
15 to a 17 round upgrade is not worth the cost of the new mags. Sig getting greedy with the price.
It looks stupid. I’m waiting for tactical development to make a better one. He’s working on it. I bought a macro and put everything on a Wilson combat XL grip. Sold the macro grip. Too big to conceal easily. Now I essentially have a comp’d XL. I use the 12 round mag with a +2 magguts kit and the 17’s on the range and as a backup.
Who wants to bet he doesn’t know that the “algorithms” are?
All this talk..defeats the purpose of 365 xl..as slim carry pistol of 10-12 rnds...
It does add some length to the grip but still super thin and easy to carry. I actually carry with the 12 round mag inserted and carry the 17 for backup . Thanks so much for watching!