The Outback Octagon - Red Vs Blue Edition
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
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Puppypaw was the absolute MVP here I think. Not only did he win with the wonder in the end with 3 players alive but he also killed the remaining 4 players or atleast got the points for those kills by sniping their last landmarks. Very methodical and clean game.
stillimpressive 2 years later
"That's the bit of the toast that matters the most." This is the commentary we keep coming back for.
Dam puppypaw was on fire this game: every single player that were eliminated met their end at the paw (so that's 4 x 3 for 12 points), then he built a wonder & successfully defended it (15 for victory + 5 bonus points for building a wonder with four players total still alive) Just this single game netted puppypaw 32 points!
Um... Spoilers... Damn
@@LEPOREcloud why are you looking at the comments before finishing the video? 🤣
@@PetertheYungler it shows top comment on mobile when u click on the video
He had the perfect spawn at the top corner, mountain and lots of forests to wall him and as china he just boomed with no issues and no one cared, if theres a time to kill 4 and make a wonder with 4 left its now
@@LEPOREcloud bro, the second you read, "Dam puppypaw" just look away. And if you're so spoiler averse, how about you don't read comments? It's possible to just choose not to look at/read something...
Drongo upon reading the patch notes: "Why they nerf grenadiers and china so much? Civ is ruined..."
Drongo during this cast: " Once you get to this many bombards and grenadiers there is basically no counter"
This is why they needed a nerf Drongo.
Drongo when you complain about well deserved Grenadier nerfs, watch this game again ahaha
It’s so wild seeing China players build nothing but grenadier’s and talk about how superior they are bc they have no counters and then wonder why they’re being nerfed lmao
I think the new UI eats up too much of the game screen, when constantly shown. Would be cooler to sometimes show it and then hide it again for most of the time. Or make it like 25% the height with smaller fonts and less icons and such.
at least try and make it transparent.
Transparent would still be in the way same as now, I think hiding it and showing when relevant just like the standard top left drop down menu is better
Puppypaw got an insane amount of points from this match.
He elimated 4 players by killing their landmarks and won with a wonder build when 4 players were alive.
He basically killed everyone who died, and won with the rest alive with the max points victory condition.
This could very well be considered a perfect game xD
indeed
Such an amazing game! And there’s no ‘unfair’ pre-game alliances just randomly bully a player out
No idea about current affairs, since I've been watching a lot of these Outback Octagon videos.
But it'd be probably fun to watch the 2-team contest but hold a scoring system again, wherein the conditions are
First Round: 8 players
1a) winning with a 3v1 gives equal, high points to the first and second best contributing player for the team win.
1b) winning with a 2v1 by wonder/sacred site, high points to the first contributing players from both sides.
1c) winning with a 2v1 by extinction, give 1st and 2nd place to both players of the same team.
2) those with high points can then point to form a team with any of the other players who didn't quite make it.
3) both sides will declare their respective empire with careful planning while map will be random.
4) Early K.O/lowest contributing players are eliminated.
SCORING
+goes, i.e 6, 6, 4, 3 for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th respectively, which will be true for the rest of the rounds.
+Additional scores depending on how the fight was won (dependent on the map, imagine a sacred site victory cuz they were all easy to manage)
+Incentivizing empire kills too, like the other games. Players can easily stack-up points that way. Additional drama in-fighting too. Just imagine some ally refusing to show up cuz "you'll steal my kill ywy".
Second Round: 6 players
1a) Same condition as first round 1a
1b) Same condition as first round 1b
1c) Same condition as first round 1c
2) those with high points will not be able to pick their ally, left at random. Only assuming you can set it so there will only be a maximum of 2 teams for the map (a.k.a only Team 1's and 2's)
3) players will have random empire while the map will be fixed..
Third Round: 4 Players
1) Highest contributing players, regardless of their teams, gain equal and high points.
2) Those who have scored the best amongst the 4 will advance for a 1v1.
3) players will have random empire and map.
Last Round, which will be very straight-forward. Assuming this entire competition will be a single-BRACKET 4v4 2-team battle.
Can prolly make it a 2, 3, or 4-Bracket system wherein players may choose another player from outside their bracket, to switch up the players in-between brackets. The 4 top players may only choose their allies after all N Brackets have finished their matches. Though this may prolly end up locking top performing players in their own bracket and make them the "leader" for the bracket.
Assuming the bracket system, prolly make it so the final round will be a 2v2v2v2 or 1v1v1v1, basically top performing from each bracket ends up playing together against other top performing players. Whichever floats their boat.
I got this game in a sale and now its finally dawn on me how good these players really are, like I get to second age in like 15 muinets if I rush for it with all my 3 hours of playtime these players are insane
Look up some build orders. Literally just makes the game easier by taking away the whole thought process behind what needs to go where. As you get better you can fine tune your decisions but learning a “path” can do wonders
@@TheInfallibleFallacy thanks man. I think the hardest part is just learning what each civ does differently from eachother, but that's part of fun lol
I appreciate the reference to the Halo series which I’m not sure you ever actually refer to from the thumbnail. Great TH-cam series which was actually bought by a tv service.
Show the leaderboard for the OVERALL TOURNAMENT please, thank you sir!
Great game as always Drongo, I hope this outback octagon never ends.
But why are buildings faster then foot soldiers? That's just so ridiculous to see a building running away from units.
Drongo how we can see overall score of this tournament
He shows it on his stream in the VOD, but he should have a screenshot of it included at the end of the video.
Puppypaw got 32 pts for this game, 15pts for 1st, 5pts for wonder victory with 4 players alive, and 4 eliminations (3pts each)
Need to see Great Wall Fireworks shenanigans and Rus with Stone Walls in this FFA nomad megarandom setting
Spaskaya tower usage: 📈📈📈
Dude the UI is blocking too much of the screen
@Drongo, ngl I really don't like that huge overlay at the top; it's taking up too much screen real estate, and it's hard to see the actual game.
Could you imagine if Simtom had come back to life once the guild hall had finished? China would be even more OP lmao. "Oh, you think you can kill me?! Let me just send out 5 vills to build 5 landmarks around the map at once."
What's up drongo, regular viewer of your channel(not sure how I wasn't subscribed already, but I now am!) Just wanted to drop into the comments to say you make an awesome job of your content. It's always fun to watch your casted games and others. Your enthusiasm, humour and analysis are superb mate 👍
That run at 40:00 was hilarious!
Amazing strategy & execution by Puppypaw, well deserved points.
However it feels like Kyo & Kaup threw the game. Main Reason why Puppy could defend so well was that he had 200 army and had critical mass. Both Kyo & Kaup had the res to build a forward base, delete most vills and amass a gigantic push. Even if that took 5-7 min, they could have 8 min of push with 200 military each.
I guess it's the greed of hoping to win after the Wonder is destroyed? I mean kauP even invested into a wonder himself instead of more military / less vills on res.
Also obviously players hesitate committing all their res on killing a wonder since they don't directly benefit from it. Would be interesting to see how that would change with official treaties (i.e. agreeing to commit all your Res to fighting and keeping none back) between the players. Cool example of what imperfect communication + scenarios that don't promote coop-play lead to
KYO definitely threw this game, at least had the potential to do more. He had 85,000 resources in the bank but never made the army he needed to do literally anything.
He also had all three sacred sites within the northern part of his territory. He easily could have preempted Puppypaw's wonder by going for a sacred site victory, but he didn't even attempt it until it was too late.
He concentrated on destroying landmarks... sad
@@pseudonymsam Exactly! I didn't understand that strategy at all. He was already keeping up around the sacred sites well before a wonder was built. The obvious play there is to throw all your resources at securing the sacred sites and then once a wonder gets dropped, capture them and win.
Thanks drongo
There is so much scenario on fun diplomacy to be had with FFA. I think aoe4 should focus on this rather than 1v1. Having more experience on FFA could spell good content for players as well as casters. As players become more confortable playing among us with one another.
And it's casual friendly. I have never played AOE4 but I love watching FFAs
Hey Drongo... Those stats up there for the eight players, take a lot of space and tbh it's just useless information, because it's too much information, not needed at the same time. It may work nice when on 1v1, but on FFA with 8 people, it's just too much info and waste of screen space. You can select players while commenting and then we can see the stats for each one. As it is now, we cannot see which player you have selected, nor we can see the original stats page of the game on the top left corner.
I think it’s too big but I really like seeing the vill count and the stone count for each player aswell as relics
@@masterdclone2172 Drongo can show this every time he selects a player, no big deal. We don't need to constantly keep an eye out to see the stats for each and every one at the same time. Unless they design a much much smaller way of portraying these stats, but as it is they are just too much. Okay for a 1v1, but not okay for 8v8.
I see comments bashing Kyo’s mil count but pays no attention to the actual game state. Quickly, early he was building what he need to beat SortOf and he didnt have the res bank. Post PuppyPaw wonder drop, he needed to proxy past the lake. So his buildup was slow.
So can criticism be made based on an analysis on how more production shouldve been set up with the proxy? Sure. Without analysis? those simplistic bashings are just that. Naive and meritless.
(Still look forward to true insights. I am curious myself whether Kyo couldve done more in a significant way. At the end we saw PuppyPaw was high unlikely to hold even 2 more min - his army might still survive but the opposing siege wouldve gotten in range. So the margin of victory isnt high.)
Huge bank and the smallest army vs Wonder. Why Kyo? What was point of that?
Recently, I left a comment suggesting a China vs Mongol team match...when I saw this video drop, I legit got excited to see it...but sadly it was just a free for all... Not that it's a bad thing...just thought a 4 on 4 civ vs civ was about to happen.
Hey Drongo, the new UI is awesome though in my opinion, if possible to reduce it to 50% (if it's still visible) if would be perfect.
Another idea that I do not know if it would work out so well, is to keep everything visible, and outside of the screen boundaries to have that input in small (might only be good for people in 2 or 4k as in 1080p the screen would be too small for that concept -- Though idk without seeing it)
This is only an opinion should it would help by any way.
Keep up the amazing content!
poor simtom, should have sold that would out and tried for guild hall earlier
Yeah this shows why china should be targeted. Insane eco, walls with over 9000 hp, broken bombards and grenadiers. Tbh their push could have been better, kyo was still at 150 vills making horsemen with over 20k gold banked and going for landmark snipes isnt good vs china, you just know they have one hanging around somewhere hidden or behind the wonder
Just thinking if this the great gate of china is new updated one with shooting capability.. Then the wonder is the best position wonder
Odd that this video is already processed in 4k, but the previous one isn't.
Can we see the points from the players?
Phenomenal as always, puppypaw the king of wonders
puppypaw should have left striker alive; wait for one other player to die. THEN drop the wonder and finish stiker off
that way he has the 5 points and vs. 2 other players only.
mistake by him
Yeah but he realised how close the others were to putting a wonder down themselves or for Kaup to turn attention on to him. When he killed striker he guaranteed himself Seventeen Points. There was no guarantee he was going to win the extra twenty. He ended up with Thirty Two points, which is almost the max you can get, without killing at least 6 players.
I mean you say mistake but he won the game and scored 32 points, this was an absolute clinic he didn’t need to twiddle his thumbs for 30mins waiting for someone else to be killed
21:59 someday Drongo will learn to check the minimap before making a claim like this. Dark blue in the minimap is not passable terrain. The center looks shallow but it's actually too deep for walking.
Finally a Chinese win, because people couldn't be toxic this time and target the Chinese player down in time! :')
Toxic? seems intelligent since one chinese player just took out 4 players then held a 1v3 for 15 minutes without too much trouble.
@@samblack5313 puppy paw look great because he is not targeted at all in the game since begining and other player just let him alone, he is the one that attacking simtom first because he is right next to him.
“Wam is trading” is so common when players call out he’s actually trading he plays it off as “ha ha funny joke” and no one targets it
We couldn’t see chat but not a stretch that players said hey target puppypaw and he played victim as “oh sure target me bc I’m China”
Not toxic China is insanely good in FFA we just watched a clinic honestly and literally just reinforced the idea that focusing China out early is just smart not toxic
You ever wonder why wer're here ?
I never understood why you assume mongols will gg when they lose the khan. They're a decent unit with good buffs, but they're free and come back in ~2min. Why gg?
It's a joke bro. Sarcasm.
Lmao i use to think Drongo’s joke with the khan would be better if he didn’t explain the joke right after but the one time he doesn’t we get this😂
Can't wait for the China nerfs. They are so op in ffa its not even funny.
china always ganged up when in FFA just ask all players who get china in megarandom.
yeah that way no one will ever play them in any mode!!! fun!!!
@@loks117 theyre ganged up on for good reason tho, sucks for the players that roll them but we just watched an hour long reason why they should be targeted
HI DRONGO
I mean the only reason there were red bases here is because there were blue bases over there.
Huh?
Wtf do you mean red flag? Like my ex??? Or teams!?!!?
First
Drongo. You weird af man :(