Promo gale still costs a good chunk of money last i checked and i opted for st grandgale because it fits the go wide theme better than ex7. EDIT: both promo gales are way down in price, id definitely be running p-166 galemon over the blocker level 4 now that I know that haha
Question about the EX7 Shoto effect. You mentioned that you can use vortex and then use Shoto's end of turn effect to give it piercing and blocker, and then unsuspend. I thought that attack effects were the last thing to go off at the end of turn? Or am i missing something? Other than that, great profile. I've built the Zephagamon deck for my son to teach him Digimon, and this looks like a solid upgrade path for the deck.
im not quite sure what you mean by attack effects but vortex and ex7 shoto both trigger end of turn, so you can choose the order that you want to resolve them in. This sequencing choice either allows you to use vortex to attack, then use shoto to unsuspend, get piercing and have a blocker. afaik you can choose to tap the shoto right after the attack declaration to get piercing because they happen at the same timing but could be wrong about that part.
@TeamDeathSlingerTCG it came up for me in Red Hybrid, specifically the interaction between bt17 Agunimon's Warp digivolve and the dual tamer's end of turn attack inherent. Basically, if you digivolve that Agunimon on the dual tamer, then use its when digivolving effect to jump into ancientgreymon, when you pass turn, the attack effect has to be the last thing triggered. This means Ancientgreymon would delete itself before you could. I think the same principle applies here since vortex is an end of turn attack effect. I could be wrong, but my locals has one or two judges who are actively in the discord and that's how they explained the red hybrid thing to me. Plus, Avault covered that same interaction in his ancientgreymon deck profile.
@@kalamander8563 I think i understand your confusion. The difference between the two instances is that with red hybrid, only one end of turn effect is on board when the "end of your turn" timing happens. So for red hybrid, takuya and koji inherit allows you to attack, once you warp into ancientgreymon the timing is passed so you dodge the requirement to delete ancientgreymon. For the example given in this profile, we are assuming you have ex7 shoto and a vortex digimon on board at the same time, which would allow for both effects to be stacked/resolved since they are present at the time of the end of your turn trigger. I hope this helps and if youre still unsure it would probably be worth to check with a judge!
The difference between is that Ancientgreymon will miss end of turn timing since it's looking for a trigger that already passed, while Both Vortex and Shoto trigger at the same time and you then can choose which order you use them For reference see Digimon Liberator: Shoto Vs Yao, Shoto Used vortex with Medicalgallantmon then unsuspend with Ex7 Shoto
Oh I’m definitely hopping in discord to discuss this
we love to hear it
Why are you not on promo Galemon or ex7 grandgale they're insane cards
Promo gale still costs a good chunk of money last i checked and i opted for st grandgale because it fits the go wide theme better than ex7.
EDIT: both promo gales are way down in price, id definitely be running p-166 galemon over the blocker level 4 now that I know that haha
Question about the EX7 Shoto effect.
You mentioned that you can use vortex and then use Shoto's end of turn effect to give it piercing and blocker, and then unsuspend.
I thought that attack effects were the last thing to go off at the end of turn? Or am i missing something?
Other than that, great profile. I've built the Zephagamon deck for my son to teach him Digimon, and this looks like a solid upgrade path for the deck.
im not quite sure what you mean by attack effects but vortex and ex7 shoto both trigger end of turn, so you can choose the order that you want to resolve them in. This sequencing choice either allows you to use vortex to attack, then use shoto to unsuspend, get piercing and have a blocker. afaik you can choose to tap the shoto right after the attack declaration to get piercing because they happen at the same timing but could be wrong about that part.
@TeamDeathSlingerTCG it came up for me in Red Hybrid, specifically the interaction between bt17 Agunimon's Warp digivolve and the dual tamer's end of turn attack inherent.
Basically, if you digivolve that Agunimon on the dual tamer, then use its when digivolving effect to jump into ancientgreymon, when you pass turn, the attack effect has to be the last thing triggered. This means Ancientgreymon would delete itself before you could.
I think the same principle applies here since vortex is an end of turn attack effect.
I could be wrong, but my locals has one or two judges who are actively in the discord and that's how they explained the red hybrid thing to me. Plus, Avault covered that same interaction in his ancientgreymon deck profile.
@@kalamander8563 I think i understand your confusion. The difference between the two instances is that with red hybrid, only one end of turn effect is on board when the "end of your turn" timing happens. So for red hybrid, takuya and koji inherit allows you to attack, once you warp into ancientgreymon the timing is passed so you dodge the requirement to delete ancientgreymon. For the example given in this profile, we are assuming you have ex7 shoto and a vortex digimon on board at the same time, which would allow for both effects to be stacked/resolved since they are present at the time of the end of your turn trigger. I hope this helps and if youre still unsure it would probably be worth to check with a judge!
@@TeamDeathSlingerTCG it absolutely did help! Thanks a bunch!
The difference between is that Ancientgreymon will miss end of turn timing since it's looking for a trigger that already passed, while Both Vortex and Shoto trigger at the same time and you then can choose which order you use them
For reference see Digimon Liberator: Shoto Vs Yao,
Shoto Used vortex with Medicalgallantmon then unsuspend with Ex7 Shoto