As a Liverpool fan I think the Emirates is up there with the best grounds I've been to. Well organised, easy access, caters for the away fan and decent priced drinks. Seats are spacious too. Obviously spurs new ground is newer and slightly better. I mean no WiFi is just plain moaning. I had 5g full signal anyway all game. Bear in mind you cannot even get a phone signal in anfield when it's full due to the number of phones in that area. A video for videos sake. It's a great stadium
I'm inclined to agree. I've only been inside once for the Emirates Cup in preseason, but aside from having to walk steps instead of ramps or an escalator, the seating in the upper tier of the Clock End was great. My only other complaint was no ice in the soft drinks. Seriously Britain, what's up with the ice shortage thing?
@@marktaylor4216 People said the same thing about the Emirates when it was brand new as well. Let's wait 15 years and see what happens to Spurs' stadium.
@@tomshea8382 Tottenham's stadium is completely different. It's an arena, not just a football stadium. Therefore, the maintenance and standards will always be of the upmost importance. The stadium will constantly be changing to support different events. They have their skywalk and much more things to go there. Therefore, it'll always be maintained. The best stadium in the world and design from Levy won't be neglected. So we'll see in 15 year's time.
@@marktaylor4216 I'm not talking about neglect. I'm talking about normal wear and tear. And the best stadium in the world is 8 blocks from where I live and is over 100 years old.
The Emirates was really unfortunate timing - seems like it was *just* early to miss the major stadium upgrades that the newer stadiums have. Crazy to think how much money goes into these stadiums (we’ve had a couple few stadiums built/upgraded here in California recently, and they’re all beautiful but woah what a price tag), but fans deserve great match day experiences from the moment they get to the ground to the moment they leave. Would be awesome to get a video on something like the transformation of fan matchday experiences as money has flooded into football, to see if teams are really investing this new money in ways that fans can tangibly enjoy.
timing was definitely unfortunate! While Arsenal was paying debt, Roman was pumping billion pounds in Chelshit and then Citeh got bought out too a year after. Couldn’t compete with free money which those two plastic clubs never have to repay
@@johnm9893 £390m initial build cost. An additional £200m in renovation, barely 16yrs into its life. That pushes Emirates up to £600m. If you look at the Spurs stadium, although that cost £1bn, it is in a completely different league. Even the staunchest Arsenal fan will admit that.
I did the tour when I was in London back in 2019. I thought it was beautiful, I spoke to one of the grounds keepers about the grass and the whole system that's built underneath, which I found rather impressive. My only surprise was it's location, just tucked away in a neighborhood of apartments and cafe's, you almost didn't know it was there.
Ah the wonderful memories of Highbury! Henry, Bergkamp, Pires and Viera tearing the premier league apart every week. It had passion, soul and most importantly the fans much closer to the action. The new stadium is great and but you need a binoculars to tell whether it was Fabregas or Nasri on the ball.
I’m a season ticket holder at Arsenal and to the contrary I’m usually surprised at how dated/poor quality stadiums of other teams are. Haven’t noticed any of these minor issues.
I think the problem is expectation, you go to Molineux or Turf Moor you get what you expect (and the fans pay far less). When you go to the Emirates or Wembley you expect state of the art and modern and you are let down.
Yeah. I mean the real problem is the fact that it's really difficult to expand in some of those grounds let alone build a New Stadium. Chelsea explained to me that in Order to build a new Stadium. We'll have to build around an overground and a couple underground train rails which will be very difficult compared to in America that they can just move the Team to another part of the State (Atlanta Braves) or to another part of the Country.
This is a weird video to be honest, I have never heard a rival fan nor a home fan complain about the actual design or modernity of the Emirate's stadium. The quiet fans of previous eras? Sure. The fact that the fans aren't close to the pitch? Sure. But, the actual facilities (pitch, inside the stadium, quality) etc, just seems weird to complain about.
As a Leeds fan I kinda these complaints are kinda funny. Sounds like 1st world problems to not have wifi - we barely have mobile signal lol. But most of us don't really care - we're there to see football.
same at turf moor. we cant even get signal in the ground let alone wifi lmao. went emirates away this season, and the number one improvement needed at the emirates is their fan atmosphere lol
Most people nowdays just go to post it on their snapchat stories sick to death of going to footie games and just seeing people on their phones scrolling through social media or just taking selfies. Just watch the game ffs
@S. Stadium was build in 2004 it was extremely modern for its time. But technology has just evolved so much over the last 20 years. It’s still a great stadium and I find it hilarious that people are complaining
Being an aussie gooner, ive only been to the old highbury now that it is a block of apartments. Even now what stood out to me is that at highbury the fans were basically on the pitch. There was very little gap between the goal and the front row, it must have been super intimidating for away fans to play in that atmosphere. I never understood why that atmosphere wasnt recreated at the emirates, why the fans are so far back, and why it just looks like every other big stadium
You're so right there are loads of giant fruit bowls all over England and don't get me started on Wembley That's just one massive fruit basket complete with handle 😆⚽🥅🏐😎🍀
There are rules defining things, such as distance from the stands to the pitch and the steepness of the incline of the stands. Which decrease i now "intimidating" how modern stadiums can be. I think the distance from the pitch is a UEFA rule, the answer is what you sometimes see in Euro matches in older stadiums, when 3 or so rows of front row seats are not used for those games.
@@jackjude thats for the reply and rhe explanation, that makes alot of sense. Shame it's killed the feel of stadia so they are all cookie cutter designs now
Was always peed off that Wenger and his pals didn’t increase the number of rows of seating on lower tier in order to make it more intimidating and atmospheric - there are at least 15 rows less than what there should be. Also the acoustics could have been much better IMO as the noise tends to flow out of the ground via the huge open gaps around the upper tiers! Could have produced a much more imposing stadium instead of a theatre for the prawn sandwich brigade.
Now i read this a long time ago and cant provide any links / source for it, but allegedly Arsenal could have built a 90k stadium and filled it to almost full capacity for every PL/CL match, but it was somehow scrapped and wenger opted for the 60k option. Probably due to something reasonable like logistical difficulties of having public transport accomodating 90k around the site on matchdays, but nevertheless... I'm sure the London club Arsenal anno year of starting construction for the Emirates would have had no problem selling out the 90k stadium.
I don' t think Wenger had anything on how the seatings are designed. He talked about how great Highbury because of how closed it is felt to the supporters and how players was able to hear and celebrate with fans. He always have much better words for Highbury than the new one.
Modifications to seating would be at the top of my list! Forget screens and cosmetics. Moving the Clock end and the North bank closer to the pitch, introducing as much safe standing as possible and increasing the gradient in the lower tiers to avoid visibility issues. Those changes alone would revolutionise the atmosphere and match day experience. A leaking roof is also a priority obviously. (I hate sitting down at the game!)
If those superficial changes arsenal are planning will take 40 weeks imagine how long those ones you've mentioned would take... where would arsenal play their home games whilst the stadium is being turned upside down?
Did Tifo just put Man United "debating a renovation" in the same group as Tottenham's new stadium, why would you bring up United when they are similarly planning changes just like they are at the Emirates?
I have, and huge crowds are often left outside angry because no one really helps either. It gets to the point where 2/3 ppl are squeezing in with 1 ticket and stewards just let it happen
@@exgardevior do I really need to walk you through why this is a silly point...? If League One's Plymouth Argyle suddenly started charging the highest season ticket prices in Europe, some people would still buy them as they have a ridiculously loyal fan base. That wouldn't make it good value... Season ticket value should be judged by the price Vs the quality of the players/performances you are watching. So yes, Arsenal's season tickets have been objectively overpriced for years. The fact that they sell out doesn't change that.
@@onetwo8847 people would still buy them? sounds like you’re talking about hypotheticals and things that have never happened. Arsenal sell out their season tickets, and have thousands more on the wait list. so whatever they charge it might not be “value” but the worth of an item is hm people are willing to lay
I can tell you that it is not a leaking roof. It is the roof pumps that are not working properly. So sometimes if there has been a lot of rain prior to a game they can sometimes pump out water usually over the payers tunnel but can also happen at the centra of any of the stands.
I moved to Scotland but like to take my 8 yo down for the emirates cup. 3 years on the bounce. I was missing the 3pm vibe of going to matches so I bought a season ticket for us to go to Partick Thistle. Imagine my son's shock after being at the emirates cup on the wednesday and going to his first home game at The Jags. "Dad where's the big screen" "Dad where is the scoreboard" "Dad where's the time". The Emirates aint that bad after all.
Emirates was a win in effective design and project management. I've been lucky enough to visit the stadium in 2018. Its basic, yes, but it served the purpose well when it was built. There's no point in a flashy stadium that leads to delays and goes over budget. I want the money to stay on the football pitch. And from what I've heard, all the upgrades are sensible. And I loved the food in the stadium. But for season ticket holders, I guess it can become repetitive.
Unpopular opinion - the main reason Arsenal fans don't like the Emirates is cause of their clear lack of success since moving there, maybe if they were winning Premier League titles and regularly playing in Champions League semi finals over the last 15 years, the fans' perceptions of the Emirates may change
That's not an unpopular opinion at all, people just don't say it because it's obvious. Of course winning stuff in any ground will give any fans a better connection to a place because they have better memories there.
This is completely correct. That whole video amounted to a 16 year old stadium needing new turnstiles and needing better food service. Arsenal had incredible success at Highbury, and have had moderate success at the Emirates. That is the reason older fans miss Highbury! Typical response from the media when Arsenal are having a decent run of results.
@@joshsalter8581 are you saying Tifo football are "the media"? Arsenal have announced these plans themselves. Tifo has made a video explaining why this would be case on a stadium most fans would still perceive to be new. And then you appear to overreact, thinking it's an effort to put Arsenal off the top 4! Chill out, it will be all right in the end.
That’s true of course but you clearly haven’t visited the stadium. It has so much potential but needs upgrades like safe standing, beers pitch-side, better food, renovations to the exterior and interior decorations, including screens, fixing the leaky roof and a new turnstiles system. Of course the love for a football ground can change if you win things there but it also definitely needs some care and upgrades…
Although I’m not an Arsenal supporter, I’ve always been disappointed with the plain design of the Emirates stadium, especially after leaving an historic ground in Highbury.
@@imconfused1237 yeah it’s extremely lazy. I’m also curious why the club didn’t simply move the 1930s Art Deco sections of Highbury to the new stadium, allowing the club to preserve it’s history. I can understand it’s heritage listed but surely it could have been done.
@@btb3614 I don’t think you can migrate listed buildings; however it wouldn’t of required that. A more thoughtful design could’ve incorporated some homage, albeit in replica form. Instead, there are very tacky murals and artefacts such as the canons. All feels a bit cheap and an after thought (…because it was) I personally find Emirates a grim stadium. They try to pass off that unfinished breeze block in communal areas is a nod to industrial design, as opposed to skimping on the finish-out. You then have a stadium whose perimeter is laced with voids, allowing any atmosphere to leak away. 16 years old and already a leaking roof says it all doesn’t it.
@@btb3614 Would have been very difficult and expensive tho. When every part of a job is being supplied/built by the lowest bidder, that's the last thing you want.
@@imconfused1237 the voids are to allow air flow in. The design of the stadium is to ensure the pitch was of the highest quality. Which it is although i’ll admit newer technology in grounds keeping makes this no longer required. The voids could be used to increase capacity although the local infrastructure cant support it, so we’re capped around the 60k mark.
What I don't understand is the 'kop' end of any ground was famous & they were big single tier stands. The kop at liverpool, the stretford end at (older) old trafford, the gelderd end at leeds, the holte end villa park. So what happened to the north bank? Why oh why did they not consider this when building the emirates. Seems an absolute basic omission to me. Only spurs have done this in new stadiums. The liverpool kop was rebuilt but kept as 1 big single tier so fine. Old trafford dumped the single tier stretford end. Leeds have plans to get a bigger capacity at elland road so part of that is to make the gelderd end much bigger & keep as a single tier.
I get that it is the 21st century and that wi fi is importaint but it sounds so ridiculous that one of the issues is connectivity to the internet when you go to watch a LIVE game of football.
@@paulturner9542 Well actually it's a very decent point. If your team is involved in a relegation fight or top 4 battle on the final day of course you're gonna want to check the scores as it decides your clubs future and is very important. Maybe not in your league where there is no competition whatsoever, but in England, games and tables actually matter.
Nothing is being ignored lol. You don't just plan work on a stadium within a few weeks... this would've been long in the works. And it has nothing to do with the football side of things.
I would be curious for a video on that last statistic. One would expect this table to largely reflect the league standings, with outliers being recently built/renovated stadiums. But this is not quite the case, with Man City and West Ham at the bottom and Wolves and Norwich being so far up.
I really hope they sort the digital ticketing system, me and my dad went to the famous 2-1 win over wolves, and we missed the first goal due to not getting into the stadium in time as our tickets weren’t emailed to us and there was a crowd of over 20 people asking a 1 woman to make sure our tickets were valid
@@mafiousbj If you think British cuisine is bad, you've never had fish & chips or a korma curry. Top tier, and so much better than some 'gourmet' foods which is just overpriced, underportioned muck.
@@IlikeTrainsguy100 that some of our top tier dishes is literally fried fish with french fries is the issue ^^ But is not the local chefs, I have tasted some awesome flavours, just that compared to Meditarranean cuisine our local dishes are lacking in variety (and I always thought of Curry as an Indian dish). Of course you are free to mix flavours from any country :)
You're comparing a stadium that was built in 2006 to stadiums new built or refurbished in the past 3 or 4 years and sound shocked that there are faults with the ground? It's called wear and tear, it's happens.
Whilst that's true, I still think arsenal jumped the gun, 2006 is modern day but it was still way behind compared to the technology we have now, it almost feels like arsenal could have kept Highbury until around 2016 onwards and started to build an Emirates that is state of the art. It feels like by even 2012 the Emirates was outdated I feel like spurs stadium will take a lot longer to become outdated
@@anotherhappylanding4746 It's easy to say now. Arsenal was on the height of its glory when they started the New Stadium Talk. Highbury Stadium capacity was 38k. Emirates Stadium is 60k. Almost double the size and it's always sold out. Arsenal was outgrowing itself and it needed change. And good thing they did change. Who knows what'd have happened after they lost their core players. Yes the Stadium can't be compared to today's standards, but I think people are making it a much bigger deal that it actually is.
There is no comparison between LA Rams stadium and the Emirates . Arsenal fans can be happy knowing they have helped fund the superbowl champions and their excellent facilities with the extortionate season ticket prices.
Imagine this video is about the Emirates stadium and rival fans have flocked here to clutch for an oportunity to try and banter our football team when this has nothing to do with a 90 minute game. Embarassing. The hate people have for Arsenal is something else and Arsenal fans don't give af about half of your teams.
I've only seen it on the telly. The main problem looks to be behind the goals, the seats are too far way from the pitch, and the spectators seem hidden away. Its difficult to explain but something doesn't look right.
The Emirates is far more state of the art than Old Trafford (which doesnt even have a large screen for VAR), and other older stadiums' upgrades mentioned like Anfield, Camp Nou are all extensions. Stamford Bridge is literally like if Arsenal never left Highbury. Only Spurs have a stadium more state of the art than Arsenal's in the PL. The upgrades proposed by the Kroenkes are cosmetic which was sorely needed, and this should have been covered FAR better in the video, instead of making it look like the Emirates is lagging behind the rest. It isnt. Only Spurs have a more modern stadium. The issue of water leakage is prevalent in both Old Trafford & Anfield btw. Tifo gotta do better, yall have set high standards. That voiceover can only do so much.
@@Bickle121 those come under upkeep, maintenance. State of the Art is structural & technical. Older stadiums can do a max of upgrading a stand, wont make it state of the art.
As a fan who can only watch Premier League on TV, I always find the Emirates Stadium is not as "lively" as other stadiums. It is so different compared to Highbury which was an intimidating ground. I suspect it is because the proximity of the fans and pitch.
You're not wrong. But you also have to take into account the banter era which the club was going through. Arsenal has been playing good football this season (we'll pretend this CP match never happened) and with the return of fans after Covid, the Emirates has become one of the most electrifying grounds in the Premier League.
Exactly especially after seeing how close the seats are to the pitch in the Tottenham Stadium. It is not the fire code it is lazy and incompetent design
I've worked in the Emirates doing pest control and wow yes definitely needs renovations. They also have huge pigeon proofing problems but I've seen their store rooms full to the brim of new flat screen tv's not sure why they wouldn't replace the broken ones if they are such a problem.
The stadium needs a major upgrade. Install a completely new root that opens and closes to offer open and indoor events. New seating, screens outside instead of art. The current make over will only last a few years and isn't ambitious.
At least it’s not as bad as the Old Trafford and not shaped like a toilet seat helps too. I do miss Highbury though. It should be noted that Arsenal built a stadium (and paid it off) during more challenging financial times.
you immediately bring up your rivals and how they ‘arguably’ have worse stadiums with issues. Why care about them? Don’t you want better for your club? (Not sure how a new spurs stadium is bad but I’ll ignore that)
Wrong. Arsenal DIDN’T pay Emirates off. They still had £160m of debt outstanding. That has since been wrapped into an even bigger £350m ‘structural loan’, arranged last year.
Further in time the seat capacity should be brought closer to the pitch and the gaps in the upper tier letting sound escape removed if possible the north bank could be rebuilt and steepened to be a bit like the yellow wall of dortmund.
That’s what City do. The very back 3 rows or so of the South Stand third tier are £320. It’s like 500 season tickets out of 42,000. Then they’re like ‘look we’ve got the cheapest in this survey’.
@@paulturner9542 that’s nostalgic bs. The seats were cramped, the queue was enormous, the bathrooms were a warcrime, and there were pillars that would block the pitch. I love highbury, but it was not a beautiful stadium that had no issues.
It’s stupid that people want to be on there phones while there is a football match on like the score will not change in the other games you can look after the game you are watching why do you need to check the scores while your watching a football match just enjoy it ffs 🤦♂️
Agree on the unfortunate timing of this ground being built, the advances made in not only stadium construction, but the understanding of what makes a stadium great, seem to have all happened since this was built. There's not much they can do about the fans though, I always went to Highbury and felt it lived up to the Highbury Library tag, but at least the ground had soul. Now the Emirates not only has quiet fans, the stadium is the poster child for soulless, generic modern stadiums. They must be looking across north london in frustrating admiration....
Disagree, the timing was perfect. The cost of building the stadium compared with the likes of the Toilet Seat or Wembley for example. Arsenal did this right when they were ascending to the top of English football, and could capitalise on the increase in fan base. Plus, it was long before any other club could think about doing it. Imagine Spurs trying to build such a stadium in 2002?
@@JoeCool90 It was the right decision to built a new stadium yes; but the design was poorly done especially when you compare it to the Alianz Arena of Bayern Munich which was built and designed in the same era. Calling the Spurs stadium a toilet seat basically already proves that you are already looking with resentment at it.
@@victorkoot so now you can speak to the feelings and sentiment of a stranger on the internet? The shape of the roof is well known to look akin to a toilet seat. It’s humour. Turn off your internet every now and then, go outside for a walk buddy. Listen to the birds chirping, the brooks babbling, and the bees buzzing.
It's quite unfortunate that we will never see an overhaul like SoFi Stadium at the Emirates. Stan is quite happy to leave his cash cow as is while providing minimal upkeep.
Arsenal isn't cashcow for KSE, they're doing the same thing they did with the Rams and yes while it may have taken and might still take some time, these stadium improvements are somewhere we can start to see the Kronke's in a positive light
I wish this video could have explained why the stadium has never been considered for hosting the champs league final. I will appreciate if a video is done which can explain that and what Uefa consider when awarding the host stadium for the champs league final. Thank you
It’s a bland looking corporate island. Highbury had character and a connection to the local area, this doesn’t. It’s a sad thing across England when clubs demolish their old stadiums only to replace them with ones like this. I mean old trafford now looks like a shopping centre.
True, but I think the Prem is one big corporate island, just look how many figures across football can't wait to go to Qatar yet call out for 'causes' when it gives them good corporate PR. It's sad on all fronts.
Got to be honest. These seem like comparatively small problems that should be easy to overcome for a club Arsenal's size. Maybe getting more broadband wifi might be the hardest part. As in more cables and masts to service a high density area with a lot of contention, might need external work put in by a telecomes partner.
The whole design of the stadium was wrong...it was built for corporate, not for fans. The brief for the architect...The North and South stands should have been designed with the spirits of the Spion Kop of the Manor Ground and the North Bank, with the essence of the Yellow Wall at Dortmund..The executive boxes should of been on one side of the stadium. ...Have to agree...the food is awful....with what you can buy outside the stadium it shouldn't be different to really up their game....
Your spot on!! The two ends behind the goals could and should have been a Mecca for the more vibrant / Lively and younger home and away supporters. Instead what you have is about 20 rows for fans that actually want to create and enjoy a proper football atmosphere and then corporate boxes and membership expensive seating with additional upper tier seating full of wealthy families and 60 yr old men and there 85 year old dads! The dynamics are all wrong at this stadium
Arsenal season tickets include European and domestic cup games (thus the higher prices) and when these games are not applicable: like this season, credits are given back to the season ticket holder. So you have to compare like for like when saying that Arsenal have the most expensive season tickets.
Ticket readers were a big problem, especially during league cup games where there were less season ticket holders. However they have already been upgraded over the last few weeks and were working way better against the game v Brighton. Faded pictures are embarrassing and surely can’t be expensive to fix.
Bowl like stadiums can have wonderful atmosphere (better than having 4 individual stands) if they tick off the 7 vital criteria required: 1. The crowd must be very close to the pitch. 2. It should be 1 tier only. The more tiers you have - the more you break up the wall of noise. 3. It should be quite dark at the highest point of the tier seating where the roof meets the stand - to artificially add to the size and mystery of the stadium. The amount of light in the gap of the roof at Arsenal’s Stadium does the atmosphere no favours. 4. It should have a large capacity. Criteria 1,2,3 is pointless for a 10,000 stadium. Try 50k - 80k 5. You need to fill the stadium to full capacity. 6. Most important - you need good raucous fans. 7. Areas for safe standing if permitted. Very few (if any) bowl stadiums in Europe have all 7 criteria mentioned. But the ones with at least 4 to 5 of those criteria will have the best atmosphere.
The problem is that when you focus on 1 area, you lose in another. Single tier means the seats get further from the pitch, for example. British stadia were traditonally 4 stands, but people forget those stands tended to have fans in the corners too. AFC will never have raucous fans with the current pricing and entry restrictions. Ultimately it is run as a business with "customers" detached from what football should be about (see the vid presenter!)
@@signoresantinoburnett1169 San Siro is fantastic. Absolute crime that those crooks have wanted to destroy it and replace it with a corporate tiddler for so long.
Things are a balancing act. 1 tier means unified sound and atmosphere. 2 or 3 tiers means upper parts are potentially closer to the pitch. I like a stadium with a mix of options.
That´s the problem with all these shiny glass constructs that are built in place of longstanding (even if antiquated) older stadiums. Give it 10-15 years and they are already outdated - and you have knocked down a priceless connection to the history, soul and identity of the club to make way for it. Give me an older stadium any day, with steep stands and seats close to the pitch, where you can feel the presence of 100+ years of fans before you. What´s a bit rough-around-the-edges in comparison to that?!! These stadiums aren´t just a pair of old jeans that you throw away when they are no longer fasionable. And I say this as someone brought up in the Premier League era.
Can some explain to me why Brighton and Wolves have more expensive season tickets than UTD and other clubs with large fanbases? I get spurs is high to pay for the new stadium but those two don’t make any sense for me
That’s very true James , most other clubs only charge for prem tickets were as arsenal charge for 7 cup tickets and refund you if we go out early. Two of my friends are chelsea season ticket holders and they have to apply for the cup games before a certain date. Which obviously makes there season tickets cheaper.
160m in stadium costs is next to nothing for a club of Arsenal's size. You got it completely wrong. The Kroenkes restructured Arsenal's stadium debt 2 years ago. Instead of paying the banks back at a high interest rate, the Kroenkes have bought that debt themselves and we're "paying" them at a much lower rate. This allows to the club it use more of it's money other things.
Another issue (with the Emirates Stadium) that wasn't mentioned in the Video is the fact that said stadium is too small in capacity for a Club like Arsenal. Especially when they have a 40,000+ Season Ticket Waiting List, despite having nearly 20 years of poor performances (for a club like Arsenal), a waiting list that used to be 100,000+ at one point. That's why Arsenal need to looking at relocating to a New 100,000+ Seater Stadium within the Next Decade (Brent Cross would be a good site) and it's certainly something a future ownership of Arsenal would need to prioritise.
@SeanL74 Arsenal have a 60,000 Seater Stadium that is almost always full for PL Matches, they have a 40,000 Season Ticket Waiting List (despite being mediocre for nearly 20 years) and they have the 4th biggest fanbase of any English Football Club. It wouldn't be hard for Arsenal to regularly fill a 100,000+ Seater Stadium, especially if you went back to winning PLs...
The Emirates is never full. Ever. Indeed, it has become a running joke that Arsenal make their attendance figures up. The sight of empty seats is commonplace and only a fool would ever waste their time denying it. ‘Waiting lists’ are hollow boasts. They often contain individuals who’ve no interest or means to purchase a season ticket, particularly when appraised of the significant cost commitment involved. They shy away. It would also make little commercial sense to inflate capacity; but rather, a constraint in this regard reinforces scarcity and maintains a price premium. Only a fool would work to dilute their brand value.
@@hegeliandianetik2009 And what does that reflect? A hopelessly fickle fanbase of ‘happy clappers’ who readily disappear when they’re not interested. It’s hardly an advertisement for expansion.
@@imconfused1237 *There are indeed empty seats at Arsenal Games (understandable considering how bad the club have been since 2006). However, it's not really the case that Arsenal are "making up the attendance figures", but rather they are defining it in terms of Tickets Sold for that Match (especially Season Tickets) rather than by Ticket Holders who actually turn up. Hence why actual attendances do not match the official figures. That's why Matchday Revenue & Average Attendances per Season have remained more or less the same for the last decade. Even if the Empty Seat issue has gradually got worse. *The thing is however; it actually costs quite a bit of cash to join the Season Ticket Waiting List (since you need to become a Red Member & pay to join the list itself) and stay there for every year. Thus in combination with the fact it's well known that Arsenal Season Tickets are quite expensive, it's almost certainly the case that the people (more or less) on the Season Ticket Waiting List are people who do actually want to get Arsenal Season Tickets. Especially when almost nobody would be insane enough to spend money for being on waiting list for season tickets...when they don't want said season tickets anyway. *Considering that I have established that Arsenal do have of Season Ticket Waiting List of around 40,000 (based on the figures I could find) and have the 10th Biggest Fanbase of any Football Club. Then it makes absolute sense to build a bigger & better stadium for Arsenal, especially if Arsenal end up in a position to being contenders for the PL & CL once again. Regardless; what this shows is that Arsenal really need a more ambitious and free spending set of owners, mainly because that's the only way they can return to winning major trophies and getting that bigger & better stadium they need.
@@danielrainford2004 Sure, they should hopefully get to play there more often if more people go to watch them. Hopefully things will change on the front. However, it is their club and the Emirates stadium reflects the club as a whole.
@@sahilm2002 Don't really think the women's game is big enough to really justify it yet. Tho yes when their game is big enough put up some of their legends too.
Having extra new seats in the 2 top corners of the ground without a screen and bringing safe standing behind each goal would also be a great start too ⚪🔴🔴⚪
There are no connectivity issues or delays in getting into the stadium with ticketless scanning, the exterior of the stadium needs massive redevelopment. It's not ok to have the Arsenal crest fading and legends tarnished. It's a wonderful stadium that has seen a massive improvement in atmosphere post covid lockdown. Yes, the food can be improved tenfold but trust me that's why I never eat or drink inside the stadium when there are wonderful local restaurants and pubs outside the stadium that welcome fans on match days.
As an Arsenal fan I'd say the biggest problem with the Emirates stadium is the other teams that keep coming to it and beating us
HEHE Come on the Albion...LOL
We barely lose at home unless it's to Liverpool or Man City...
Haha! Nice - I was gonna say the problem with the Emirates stadium is that Arsenal plays there :)
Arsenal is the fans dominatrix
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If they were to bring the Clock End and North Bank much closer to the pitch and introduce safe standing, it'd be such a good stadium.
YES!!!!!
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And change the roof
Would be amazing, and incredibly expensive. Never going to happen.
@@Tullett88 it acc won’t be
Nothing is wrong with it! I built it myself!
Heh, you at your age built the stadium?
No wonder….
Bad Design Frenchie .
Ty loves you
And for only £40.000.001
@@cfa1998 😂😂
As a Liverpool fan I think the Emirates is up there with the best grounds I've been to. Well organised, easy access, caters for the away fan and decent priced drinks. Seats are spacious too. Obviously spurs new ground is newer and slightly better. I mean no WiFi is just plain moaning. I had 5g full signal anyway all game. Bear in mind you cannot even get a phone signal in anfield when it's full due to the number of phones in that area. A video for videos sake. It's a great stadium
I'm inclined to agree. I've only been inside once for the Emirates Cup in preseason, but aside from having to walk steps instead of ramps or an escalator, the seating in the upper tier of the Clock End was great. My only other complaint was no ice in the soft drinks. Seriously Britain, what's up with the ice shortage thing?
Slightly better? Are you serious?! Spurs' ground is unbelievable and designed so incredibly well to the finest of details. Slightly, what a muppet.
@@marktaylor4216 People said the same thing about the Emirates when it was brand new as well. Let's wait 15 years and see what happens to Spurs' stadium.
@@tomshea8382 Tottenham's stadium is completely different. It's an arena, not just a football stadium. Therefore, the maintenance and standards will always be of the upmost importance. The stadium will constantly be changing to support different events. They have their skywalk and much more things to go there. Therefore, it'll always be maintained. The best stadium in the world and design from Levy won't be neglected. So we'll see in 15 year's time.
@@marktaylor4216 I'm not talking about neglect. I'm talking about normal wear and tear. And the best stadium in the world is 8 blocks from where I live and is over 100 years old.
The Emirates was really unfortunate timing - seems like it was *just* early to miss the major stadium upgrades that the newer stadiums have. Crazy to think how much money goes into these stadiums (we’ve had a couple few stadiums built/upgraded here in California recently, and they’re all beautiful but woah what a price tag), but fans deserve great match day experiences from the moment they get to the ground to the moment they leave.
Would be awesome to get a video on something like the transformation of fan matchday experiences as money has flooded into football, to see if teams are really investing this new money in ways that fans can tangibly enjoy.
timing was definitely unfortunate! While Arsenal was paying debt, Roman was pumping billion pounds in Chelshit and then Citeh got bought out too a year after. Couldn’t compete with free money which those two plastic clubs never have to repay
The timing is the best possible; £390 million spent on it is a massive bargain compared to the £1 billion Tottenham spent on their stadium.
@North Bank bit salty there my man.
@@johnm9893 £390m initial build cost. An additional £200m in renovation, barely 16yrs into its life. That pushes Emirates up to £600m.
If you look at the Spurs stadium, although that cost £1bn, it is in a completely different league. Even the staunchest Arsenal fan will admit that.
@@johnm9893 And that’s why the Emirates is dated and falling apart
Sorry I had to laugh when he said the emirates stadium looked outmoded and then compares it to a stand built at Anfield. Otherwise, great video..
Or citing Old Trafford's "potential future renovation" as something to aspire to, while it today is an embarrassment
To be fair the new stand at anfield is already antiquated
Staying at Anfield was by far one of the best decisions that Liverpool have ever taken. Wouldn´t trade it for anything.
Have u ever been to the emirates it’s out dated
@@harrypitter-bread2635 have you been to anfield? It’s stuck in the 1920s
I did the tour when I was in London back in 2019. I thought it was beautiful, I spoke to one of the grounds keepers about the grass and the whole system that's built underneath, which I found rather impressive. My only surprise was it's location, just tucked away in a neighborhood of apartments and cafe's, you almost didn't know it was there.
Ah the wonderful memories of Highbury!
Henry, Bergkamp, Pires and Viera tearing the premier league apart every week. It had passion, soul and most importantly the fans much closer to the action.
The new stadium is great and but you need a binoculars to tell whether it was Fabregas or Nasri on the ball.
I highly doubt it was either nasri or fabregas
Or Alexis Sanchez or Ozil.
Should never have moved!
Try sitting at the top in the nou camp. Its even harder too see
Vieira* pity it seems you were so close to the pitch and still couldn't read the names.
I’m a season ticket holder at Arsenal and to the contrary I’m usually surprised at how dated/poor quality stadiums of other teams are. Haven’t noticed any of these minor issues.
I think the problem is expectation, you go to Molineux or Turf Moor you get what you expect (and the fans pay far less). When you go to the Emirates or Wembley you expect state of the art and modern and you are let down.
Yeah. I mean the real problem is the fact that it's really difficult to expand in some of those grounds let alone build a New Stadium. Chelsea explained to me that in Order to build a new Stadium. We'll have to build around an overground and a couple underground train rails which will be very difficult compared to in America that they can just move the Team to another part of the State (Atlanta Braves) or to another part of the Country.
This is a weird video to be honest, I have never heard a rival fan nor a home fan complain about the actual design or modernity of the Emirate's stadium. The quiet fans of previous eras? Sure. The fact that the fans aren't close to the pitch? Sure. But, the actual facilities (pitch, inside the stadium, quality) etc, just seems weird to complain about.
As a Leeds fan I kinda these complaints are kinda funny. Sounds like 1st world problems to not have wifi - we barely have mobile signal lol. But most of us don't really care - we're there to see football.
same at turf moor. we cant even get signal in the ground let alone wifi lmao. went emirates away this season, and the number one improvement needed at the emirates is their fan atmosphere lol
Most people nowdays just go to post it on their snapchat stories sick to death of going to footie games and just seeing people on their phones scrolling through social media or just taking selfies. Just watch the game ffs
@S. Stadium was build in 2004 it was extremely
modern for its time. But technology has just evolved so much over the last 20 years. It’s still a great stadium and I find it hilarious that people are complaining
Being an aussie gooner, ive only been to the old highbury now that it is a block of apartments. Even now what stood out to me is that at highbury the fans were basically on the pitch. There was very little gap between the goal and the front row, it must have been super intimidating for away fans to play in that atmosphere.
I never understood why that atmosphere wasnt recreated at the emirates, why the fans are so far back, and why it just looks like every other big stadium
You're so right there are loads of giant fruit bowls all over England and don't get me started on Wembley That's just one massive fruit basket complete with handle 😆⚽🥅🏐😎🍀
There are rules defining things, such as distance from the stands to the pitch and the steepness of the incline of the stands. Which decrease i now "intimidating" how modern stadiums can be. I think the distance from the pitch is a UEFA rule, the answer is what you sometimes see in Euro matches in older stadiums, when 3 or so rows of front row seats are not used for those games.
@@jackjude thats for the reply and rhe explanation, that makes alot of sense. Shame it's killed the feel of stadia so they are all cookie cutter designs now
Was always peed off that Wenger and his pals didn’t increase the number of rows of seating on lower tier in order to make it more intimidating and atmospheric - there are at least 15 rows less than what there should be. Also the acoustics could have been much better IMO as the noise tends to flow out of the ground via the huge open gaps around the upper tiers! Could have produced a much more imposing stadium instead of a theatre for the prawn sandwich brigade.
Now i read this a long time ago and cant provide any links / source for it, but allegedly Arsenal could have built a 90k stadium and filled it to almost full capacity for every PL/CL match, but it was somehow scrapped and wenger opted for the 60k option. Probably due to something reasonable like logistical difficulties of having public transport accomodating 90k around the site on matchdays, but nevertheless... I'm sure the London club Arsenal anno year of starting construction for the Emirates would have had no problem selling out the 90k stadium.
I don' t think Wenger had anything on how the seatings are designed. He talked about how great Highbury because of how closed it is felt to the supporters and how players was able to hear and celebrate with fans. He always have much better words for Highbury than the new one.
Think its more to do with Islington council they were very strict as with anything in around London development its hard
Modifications to seating would be at the top of my list! Forget screens and cosmetics.
Moving the Clock end and the North bank closer to the pitch, introducing as much safe standing as possible and increasing the gradient in the lower tiers to avoid visibility issues.
Those changes alone would revolutionise the atmosphere and match day experience.
A leaking roof is also a priority obviously.
(I hate sitting down at the game!)
If those superficial changes arsenal are planning will take 40 weeks imagine how long those ones you've mentioned would take... where would arsenal play their home games whilst the stadium is being turned upside down?
I remember noticing the leaking roof at the wolves game, thinking it ent even rained today!
Blame pessi
Did Tifo just put Man United "debating a renovation" in the same group as Tottenham's new stadium, why would you bring up United when they are similarly planning changes just like they are at the Emirates?
And old Trafford which is in the middle of nowhere is literally falling apart.
I'm shocked about Wolves' and Brighton's tickets prices ! 😱
Blame pessi
@@MB.VII098 ?
@@MB.VII098 blame penaldo
@@MB.VII098 because he's ghosting against big teams as well as small teams
@@thewolverine7516 what????!! 😂😂😂Ronaldo scored a hat trick against Tottenham while messi is struggling in the McDonald’s league, pipe down 🤫🤫🤡🤡💩💩
I've been going to The Emirates for years and never once had an issue with the ticket scanner and never experienced delays due to it.
I have, and huge crowds are often left outside angry because no one really helps either. It gets to the point where 2/3 ppl are squeezing in with 1 ticket and stewards just let it happen
For me is the poor dull atmosphere. It’s always so flat nothing like Highbury
This season has been a menace.
Let's be real season tickets have just been a scam, should have reduced them when we fell into Europa league
it's not so bad once you consider inflation
@@exgardevior they've consistently had the highest average season ticket prices in europe... in what world is that "not so bad" lol
@@onetwo8847 well... considering they sell out every year with thousands on the waiting list... evidently, people think it's worth it?
@@exgardevior do I really need to walk you through why this is a silly point...?
If League One's Plymouth Argyle suddenly started charging the highest season ticket prices in Europe, some people would still buy them as they have a ridiculously loyal fan base. That wouldn't make it good value...
Season ticket value should be judged by the price Vs the quality of the players/performances you are watching. So yes, Arsenal's season tickets have been objectively overpriced for years. The fact that they sell out doesn't change that.
@@onetwo8847 people would still buy them? sounds like you’re talking about hypotheticals and things that have never happened. Arsenal sell out their season tickets, and have thousands more on the wait list. so whatever they charge it might not be “value” but the worth of an item is hm people are willing to lay
I can tell you that it is not a leaking roof. It is the roof pumps that are not working properly. So sometimes if there has been a lot of rain prior to a game they can sometimes pump out water usually over the payers tunnel but can also happen at the centra of any of the stands.
I’ve only noticed it in the centre of the east stand was chucking it down the whole game although it hadn’t been raining for 2+ hours
Hardly surprising with 18 year old pumps
I moved to Scotland but like to take my 8 yo down for the emirates cup. 3 years on the bounce. I was missing the 3pm vibe of going to matches so I bought a season ticket for us to go to Partick Thistle. Imagine my son's shock after being at the emirates cup on the wednesday and going to his first home game at The Jags. "Dad where's the big screen" "Dad where is the scoreboard" "Dad where's the time".
The Emirates aint that bad after all.
Emirates was a win in effective design and project management. I've been lucky enough to visit the stadium in 2018. Its basic, yes, but it served the purpose well when it was built. There's no point in a flashy stadium that leads to delays and goes over budget. I want the money to stay on the football pitch. And from what I've heard, all the upgrades are sensible. And I loved the food in the stadium. But for season ticket holders, I guess it can become repetitive.
You loved the food? Seriously?
Unpopular opinion - the main reason Arsenal fans don't like the Emirates is cause of their clear lack of success since moving there, maybe if they were winning Premier League titles and regularly playing in Champions League semi finals over the last 15 years, the fans' perceptions of the Emirates may change
That's not an unpopular opinion at all, people just don't say it because it's obvious. Of course winning stuff in any ground will give any fans a better connection to a place because they have better memories there.
This is completely correct. That whole video amounted to a 16 year old stadium needing new turnstiles and needing better food service. Arsenal had incredible success at Highbury, and have had moderate success at the Emirates. That is the reason older fans miss Highbury! Typical response from the media when Arsenal are having a decent run of results.
@@joshsalter8581 are you saying Tifo football are "the media"?
Arsenal have announced these plans themselves.
Tifo has made a video explaining why this would be case on a stadium most fans would still perceive to be new. And then you appear to overreact, thinking it's an effort to put Arsenal off the top 4! Chill out, it will be all right in the end.
you are absolutely spot on
That’s true of course but you clearly haven’t visited the stadium. It has so much potential but needs upgrades like safe standing, beers pitch-side, better food, renovations to the exterior and interior decorations, including screens, fixing the leaky roof and a new turnstiles system.
Of course the love for a football ground can change if you win things there but it also definitely needs some care and upgrades…
Although I’m not an Arsenal supporter, I’ve always been disappointed with the plain design of the Emirates stadium, especially after leaving an historic ground in Highbury.
It’s because it’s just a copy and paste of Estadio da Luz. Embarrassingly, they had to spend money afterwards on ‘Arsenalfication’.
@@imconfused1237 yeah it’s extremely lazy.
I’m also curious why the club didn’t simply move the 1930s Art Deco sections of Highbury to the new stadium, allowing the club to preserve it’s history.
I can understand it’s heritage listed but surely it could have been done.
@@btb3614 I don’t think you can migrate listed buildings; however it wouldn’t of required that. A more thoughtful design could’ve incorporated some homage, albeit in replica form. Instead, there are very tacky murals and artefacts such as the canons. All feels a bit cheap and an after thought (…because it was)
I personally find Emirates a grim stadium. They try to pass off that unfinished breeze block in communal areas is a nod to industrial design, as opposed to skimping on the finish-out. You then have a stadium whose perimeter is laced with voids, allowing any atmosphere to leak away. 16 years old and already a leaking roof says it all doesn’t it.
@@btb3614 Would have been very difficult and expensive tho. When every part of a job is being supplied/built by the lowest bidder, that's the last thing you want.
@@imconfused1237 the voids are to allow air flow in. The design of the stadium is to ensure the pitch was of the highest quality. Which it is although i’ll admit newer technology in grounds keeping makes this no longer required. The voids could be used to increase capacity although the local infrastructure cant support it, so we’re capped around the 60k mark.
What I don't understand is the 'kop' end of any ground was famous & they were big single tier stands. The kop at liverpool, the stretford end at (older) old trafford, the gelderd end at leeds, the holte end villa park. So what happened to the north bank? Why oh why did they not consider this when building the emirates. Seems an absolute basic omission to me. Only spurs have done this in new stadiums. The liverpool kop was rebuilt but kept as 1 big single tier so fine. Old trafford dumped the single tier stretford end. Leeds have plans to get a bigger capacity at elland road so part of that is to make the gelderd end much bigger & keep as a single tier.
When comparing the tickets, did you take into account that they also include something like 6-7 cup games?
I get that it is the 21st century and that wi fi is importaint but it sounds so ridiculous that one of the issues is connectivity to the internet when you go to watch a LIVE game of football.
100% it just highlights the plasticity of English football fans.
@@paulturner9542 you mean Premier League fans!
@@paulturner9542 Well actually it's a very decent point. If your team is involved in a relegation fight or top 4 battle on the final day of course you're gonna want to check the scores as it decides your clubs future and is very important. Maybe not in your league where there is no competition whatsoever, but in England, games and tables actually matter.
They go to the Stadium for selfies...
Crazy how at Arsenal, when the football starts looking up, they ignore that and focus on some other negatives...
I'm an arsenal fan and I find it interesting
It's hardly looking up by Arsenal standards. Top 4 is where Wenger was criticized for 10-12 years to be at.
@@palashrawat401 Top 4 was less contested and easier to get back then tbh
Nothing is being ignored lol. You don't just plan work on a stadium within a few weeks... this would've been long in the works. And it has nothing to do with the football side of things.
But the walls need painting!!
I would be curious for a video on that last statistic. One would expect this table to largely reflect the league standings, with outliers being recently built/renovated stadiums. But this is not quite the case, with Man City and West Ham at the bottom and Wolves and Norwich being so far up.
I really hope they sort the digital ticketing system, me and my dad went to the famous 2-1 win over wolves, and we missed the first goal due to not getting into the stadium in time as our tickets weren’t emailed to us and there was a crowd of over 20 people asking a 1 woman to make sure our tickets were valid
The fans behind the goals need to be brought closer to the pitch. Why did they leave so much distance?
I love how “the food isn’t very good” is seen as a crisis
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That´s basically the issue with British cuisine as a whole ^^
@@mafiousbj Ouch!
@@mafiousbj If you think British cuisine is bad, you've never had fish & chips or a korma curry. Top tier, and so much better than some 'gourmet' foods which is just overpriced, underportioned muck.
@@IlikeTrainsguy100 that some of our top tier dishes is literally fried fish with french fries is the issue ^^
But is not the local chefs, I have tasted some awesome flavours, just that compared to Meditarranean cuisine our local dishes are lacking in variety (and I always thought of Curry as an Indian dish). Of course you are free to mix flavours from any country :)
What's wrong with the Emirates stadium is that it isn't an 85,000 seater stadium
You're comparing a stadium that was built in 2006 to stadiums new built or refurbished in the past 3 or 4 years and sound shocked that there are faults with the ground? It's called wear and tear, it's happens.
Whilst that's true, I still think arsenal jumped the gun, 2006 is modern day but it was still way behind compared to the technology we have now, it almost feels like arsenal could have kept Highbury until around 2016 onwards and started to build an Emirates that is state of the art. It feels like by even 2012 the Emirates was outdated I feel like spurs stadium will take a lot longer to become outdated
@@anotherhappylanding4746 It's easy to say now. Arsenal was on the height of its glory when they started the New Stadium Talk. Highbury Stadium capacity was 38k. Emirates Stadium is 60k. Almost double the size and it's always sold out. Arsenal was outgrowing itself and it needed change. And good thing they did change. Who knows what'd have happened after they lost their core players. Yes the Stadium can't be compared to today's standards, but I think people are making it a much bigger deal that it actually is.
There is no comparison between LA Rams stadium and the Emirates . Arsenal fans can be happy knowing they have helped fund the superbowl champions and their excellent facilities with the extortionate season ticket prices.
Sofi is a giant design flaw
Imagine this video is about the Emirates stadium and rival fans have flocked here to clutch for an oportunity to try and banter our football team when this has nothing to do with a 90 minute game. Embarassing. The hate people have for Arsenal is something else and Arsenal fans don't give af about half of your teams.
People hop on Arsenal because their fans are famous for being idiots
I've only seen it on the telly. The main problem looks to be behind the goals, the seats are too far way from the pitch, and the spectators seem hidden away. Its difficult to explain but something doesn't look right.
The Emirates is far more state of the art than Old Trafford (which doesnt even have a large screen for VAR), and other older stadiums' upgrades mentioned like Anfield, Camp Nou are all extensions. Stamford Bridge is literally like if Arsenal never left Highbury.
Only Spurs have a stadium more state of the art than Arsenal's in the PL.
The upgrades proposed by the Kroenkes are cosmetic which was sorely needed, and this should have been covered FAR better in the video, instead of making it look like the Emirates is lagging behind the rest. It isnt. Only Spurs have a more modern stadium. The issue of water leakage is prevalent in both Old Trafford & Anfield btw.
Tifo gotta do better, yall have set high standards. That voiceover can only do so much.
As a Chelsea fan I would never trade Stamford Bridge for a modern state of the art stadium.
£200m seems a lot for “cosmetic”
You told lies about Anfield though. Ain't no leaky roof to be found there.
Leaky roofs, dodgy screens, faded stadium seats etc isn’t state of the art you melt
@@Bickle121 those come under upkeep, maintenance. State of the Art is structural & technical. Older stadiums can do a max of upgrading a stand, wont make it state of the art.
As a fan who can only watch Premier League on TV, I always find the Emirates Stadium is not as "lively" as other stadiums. It is so different compared to Highbury which was an intimidating ground. I suspect it is because the proximity of the fans and pitch.
You're not wrong. But you also have to take into account the banter era which the club was going through. Arsenal has been playing good football this season (we'll pretend this CP match never happened) and with the return of fans after Covid, the Emirates has become one of the most electrifying grounds in the Premier League.
Highbury was never intimidating, give over
main problem was not having enough seats closer to pitch side, which lost the flavor of highbury
Your team will have 14th league title :,0
Exactly especially after seeing how close the seats are to the pitch in the Tottenham Stadium. It is not the fire code it is lazy and incompetent design
I like how these videos are 5 minute short enough to keep my interest long enough to accurately explain the topic
I've worked in the Emirates doing pest control and wow yes definitely needs renovations. They also have huge pigeon proofing problems but I've seen their store rooms full to the brim of new flat screen tv's not sure why they wouldn't replace the broken ones if they are such a problem.
Speaking of things that haven’t aged well. This video.
Imagine if they just renovated Highbury 🤩
More than likely would have cost more than building a new stadium
Couldn’t as people were living there
It’s where Arsenal plays
lol
Would have been funny a few months ago....
How to spot a united fan 🤣
@@Ownhd I was going to say the same and I'm a Spurs supporter.
They should just move back to Highbury
The stadium needs a major upgrade. Install a completely new root that opens and closes to offer open and indoor events. New seating, screens outside instead of art. The current make over will only last a few years and isn't ambitious.
Even with all these issues, we're still having fans come over and watch games. The club really need to make it better, at least for them!
At least it’s not as bad as the Old Trafford and not shaped like a toilet seat helps too. I do miss Highbury though. It should be noted that Arsenal built a stadium (and paid it off) during more challenging financial times.
FACTS! Arsenal had to pay stadium debt for ages while some teams like Chelski and Citeh got billion pound free gifts which they never have to repay
you immediately bring up your rivals and how they ‘arguably’ have worse stadiums with issues. Why care about them? Don’t you want better for your club? (Not sure how a new spurs stadium is bad but I’ll ignore that)
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Wrong. Arsenal DIDN’T pay Emirates off. They still had £160m of debt outstanding. That has since been wrapped into an even bigger £350m ‘structural loan’, arranged last year.
Highbury's atmosphere and performance will always remain unmatched unfortunately
I went as an away fan to the emirates a few years ago and honestly it just feels like an old fashioned football stadium that happens to be bowl shaped
The biggest issue with the stadium is the shallow banking of the lower tier. Get a couple of tall people in front of you and you can't see much
New Tottenham Hotspur stadium is spectacular
That will never see any trophies.... FACT!
It should be, it cost 3 times as much and is 18 years younger, can't say that about the team though 😂.....and it's a toilet seat 😂
@@jackdominiak445 tottenham stadium > world cup final 😎🤑
emirshits > women's fa cup final 🤣😂🤣😂
@@Warthog1976 just like you never see any tinpots in EUROPE !
A video on Fulham and how they will do in the Premier League, please
They will go down again awful awful club
Further in time the seat capacity should be brought closer to the pitch and the gaps in the upper tier letting sound escape removed if possible the north bank could be rebuilt and steepened to be a bit like the yellow wall of dortmund.
Am I the only one who thinks, apart from Tottenham’s stadium and the Allianz, the Emirates is still one of the most modern stadia in Europe?
Yeah you’re the only one 😂😂😂
That most affordable season ticket stat is so misleading. You can have a restricted view area seat for 400 a season and then it makes it look cheap
That’s what City do. The very back 3 rows or so of the South Stand third tier are £320. It’s like 500 season tickets out of 42,000. Then they’re like ‘look we’ve got the cheapest in this survey’.
Amazing how Highbury didn’t have all these problems for 100 odd years…. It’s a reflection of our throw away materialistic society.
Highbury had WiFi 100 years ago? Wow, it really was ahead of it’s time.
That’s cap, highbury was historic but it definitely had problems and showed it’s age
well thats just not true
@@cristiancardenas5822 timeless, so timeless the marble halls remained.
@@paulturner9542 that’s nostalgic bs. The seats were cramped, the queue was enormous, the bathrooms were a warcrime, and there were pillars that would block the pitch. I love highbury, but it was not a beautiful stadium that had no issues.
It’s stupid that people want to be on there phones while there is a football match on like the score will not change in the other games you can look after the game you are watching why do you need to check the scores while your watching a football match just enjoy it ffs 🤦♂️
It's the home of Arsenal FC
by far the greatest team the world has ever seen 🔴⚪️
@@northbank1886 no league in 20 year no Europe trophy London is blue 💙⚪️
@@northbank1886 Arsenal are the greatest Lolcow in all of sports.
Stan Kroenke has brought more joy to the world than Santa.
@@northbank1886 i Know, it brings so much laughter to rival fans T . T
😂😂😂
Agree on the unfortunate timing of this ground being built, the advances made in not only stadium construction, but the understanding of what makes a stadium great, seem to have all happened since this was built. There's not much they can do about the fans though, I always went to Highbury and felt it lived up to the Highbury Library tag, but at least the ground had soul. Now the Emirates not only has quiet fans, the stadium is the poster child for soulless, generic modern stadiums. They must be looking across north london in frustrating admiration....
Disagree, the timing was perfect.
The cost of building the stadium compared with the likes of the Toilet Seat or Wembley for example. Arsenal did this right when they were ascending to the top of English football, and could capitalise on the increase in fan base. Plus, it was long before any other club could think about doing it. Imagine Spurs trying to build such a stadium in 2002?
@@JoeCool90 You are a biased fan... The Spurs stadium is in a whole other league than Emirates
@@victorkoot and you didn’t read what I wrote.
@@JoeCool90 It was the right decision to built a new stadium yes; but the design was poorly done especially when you compare it to the Alianz Arena of Bayern Munich which was built and designed in the same era. Calling the Spurs stadium a toilet seat basically already proves that you are already looking with resentment at it.
@@victorkoot so now you can speak to the feelings and sentiment of a stranger on the internet? The shape of the roof is well known to look akin to a toilet seat. It’s humour. Turn off your internet every now and then, go outside for a walk buddy. Listen to the birds chirping, the brooks babbling, and the bees buzzing.
Old Trafford is a laughing stock
These are minor issues. The stadium is still fantastic
I get stadium repairs but some of these are reaching like WiFi😂 bro if you can buy a Arsenal ticket you’ve got data on your phone
You can't get reception, especially during peak times like half time. Or I can't anyway!
You can talk about all the tech and features but what makes a football stadium magnificent is the football on the pitch and passion on the stands 😎
It's quite unfortunate that we will never see an overhaul like SoFi Stadium at the Emirates. Stan is quite happy to leave his cash cow as is while providing minimal upkeep.
Arsenal isn't cashcow for KSE, they're doing the same thing they did with the Rams and yes while it may have taken and might still take some time, these stadium improvements are somewhere we can start to see the Kronke's in a positive light
I wish this video could have explained why the stadium has never been considered for hosting the champs league final. I will appreciate if a video is done which can explain that and what Uefa consider when awarding the host stadium for the champs league final. Thank you
Wembley is the premier stadium in London with much bigger capacity, they'd never have a CL final in the city that wasn't at Wembley.
@@Chigz10 Not even the new Tottenham stadium?
Outside of London, Old Trafford hosted the 2003 final
It’s a bland looking corporate island. Highbury had character and a connection to the local area, this doesn’t. It’s a sad thing across England when clubs demolish their old stadiums only to replace them with ones like this. I mean old trafford now looks like a shopping centre.
True, but I think the Prem is one big corporate island, just look how many figures across football can't wait to go to Qatar yet call out for 'causes' when it gives them good corporate PR. It's sad on all fronts.
Got to be honest. These seem like comparatively small problems that should be easy to overcome for a club Arsenal's size. Maybe getting more broadband wifi might be the hardest part. As in more cables and masts to service a high density area with a lot of contention, might need external work put in by a telecomes partner.
Yes The new built Sofi stadium for the LA Rams is probably the best stadium in the world right now
Nope
apparently it already has problems, its sorounded by a airport, and a sewage works
This stadium is basically a copy of the Estádio da Luz in Lisbon. Except their stadiums never sells out and is still 100 times louder.
The whole design of the stadium was wrong...it was built for corporate, not for fans. The brief for the architect...The North and South stands should have been designed with the spirits of the Spion Kop of the Manor Ground and the North Bank, with the essence of the Yellow Wall at Dortmund..The executive boxes should of been on one side of the stadium. ...Have to agree...the food is awful....with what you can buy outside the stadium it shouldn't be different to really up their game....
Your spot on!! The two ends behind the goals could and should have been a Mecca for the more vibrant / Lively and younger home and away supporters. Instead what you have is about 20 rows for fans that actually want to create and enjoy a proper football atmosphere and then corporate boxes and membership expensive seating with additional upper tier seating full of wealthy families and 60 yr old men and there 85 year old dads! The dynamics are all wrong at this stadium
The video commentator is the epitomy of the corporate spectator.
Loved the visuals. Great work!
Arsenal season tickets include European and domestic cup games (thus the higher prices) and when these games are not applicable: like this season, credits are given back to the season ticket holder. So you have to compare like for like when saying that Arsenal have the most expensive season tickets.
Ticket readers were a big problem, especially during league cup games where there were less season ticket holders. However they have already been upgraded over the last few weeks and were working way better against the game v Brighton. Faded pictures are embarrassing and surely can’t be expensive to fix.
Wait a minute. Didn’t Arsenal sell their best players pay for a new stadium?
Yes because the Kroenke's wouldn't write off any of the debt.
Bowl like stadiums can have wonderful atmosphere (better than having 4 individual stands) if they tick off the 7 vital criteria required:
1. The crowd must be very close to the pitch.
2. It should be 1 tier only. The more tiers you have - the more you break up the wall of noise.
3. It should be quite dark at the highest point of the tier seating where the roof meets the stand - to artificially add to the size and mystery of the stadium. The amount of light in the gap of the roof at Arsenal’s Stadium does the atmosphere no favours.
4. It should have a large capacity. Criteria 1,2,3 is pointless for a 10,000 stadium. Try 50k - 80k
5. You need to fill the stadium to full capacity.
6. Most important - you need good raucous fans.
7. Areas for safe standing if permitted.
Very few (if any) bowl stadiums in Europe have all 7 criteria mentioned. But the ones with at least 4 to 5 of those criteria will have the best atmosphere.
The problem is that when you focus on 1 area, you lose in another.
Single tier means the seats get further from the pitch, for example.
British stadia were traditonally 4 stands, but people forget those stands tended to have fans in the corners too.
AFC will never have raucous fans with the current pricing and entry restrictions. Ultimately it is run as a business with "customers" detached from what football should be about (see the vid presenter!)
Thats the San Siro for the most part.
@@signoresantinoburnett1169 San Siro is fantastic. Absolute crime that those crooks have wanted to destroy it and replace it with a corporate tiddler for so long.
Things are a balancing act. 1 tier means unified sound and atmosphere. 2 or 3 tiers means upper parts are potentially closer to the pitch. I like a stadium with a mix of options.
It went from high borrow to flying M I rates, that's what happened to it.
That´s the problem with all these shiny glass constructs that are built in place of longstanding (even if antiquated) older stadiums. Give it 10-15 years and they are already outdated - and you have knocked down a priceless connection to the history, soul and identity of the club to make way for it.
Give me an older stadium any day, with steep stands and seats close to the pitch, where you can feel the presence of 100+ years of fans before you. What´s a bit rough-around-the-edges in comparison to that?!! These stadiums aren´t just a pair of old jeans that you throw away when they are no longer fasionable. And I say this as someone brought up in the Premier League era.
It was impossible to redevelop Highbury, but this is what I like we're doing at Liverpool 😊
Can some explain to me why Brighton and Wolves have more expensive season tickets than UTD and other clubs with large fanbases? I get spurs is high to pay for the new stadium but those two don’t make any sense for me
Lower capacities
They only mention the cheapest season ticket, not the average one.
Love the graphic showing Norwich 3-0 up.
Actually, looks more like Kings Lynn
Arsenal having the most expensive season tickets in the prem is a myth
It literally isn't.
It s spurs now isn t it? But arsenal had it for a long time. London tax
That’s very true James , most other clubs only charge for prem tickets were as arsenal charge for 7 cup tickets and refund you if we go out early. Two of my friends are chelsea season ticket holders and they have to apply for the cup games before a certain date. Which obviously makes there season tickets cheaper.
it's to be expected when you have lots of fans. It's why man city have the second cheapest lol.
160m in stadium costs is next to nothing for a club of Arsenal's size.
You got it completely wrong. The Kroenkes restructured Arsenal's stadium debt 2 years ago. Instead of paying the banks back at a high interest rate, the Kroenkes have bought that debt themselves and we're "paying" them at a much lower rate. This allows to the club it use more of it's money other things.
How do you replace kick off times?
Another issue (with the Emirates Stadium) that wasn't mentioned in the Video is the fact that said stadium is too small in capacity for a Club like Arsenal. Especially when they have a 40,000+ Season Ticket Waiting List, despite having nearly 20 years of poor performances (for a club like Arsenal), a waiting list that used to be 100,000+ at one point.
That's why Arsenal need to looking at relocating to a New 100,000+ Seater Stadium within the Next Decade (Brent Cross would be a good site) and it's certainly something a future ownership of Arsenal would need to prioritise.
@SeanL74
Arsenal have a 60,000 Seater Stadium that is almost always full for PL Matches, they have a 40,000 Season Ticket Waiting List (despite being mediocre for nearly 20 years) and they have the 4th biggest fanbase of any English Football Club.
It wouldn't be hard for Arsenal to regularly fill a 100,000+ Seater Stadium, especially if you went back to winning PLs...
The Emirates is never full. Ever. Indeed, it has become a running joke that Arsenal make their attendance figures up. The sight of empty seats is commonplace and only a fool would ever waste their time denying it.
‘Waiting lists’ are hollow boasts. They often contain individuals who’ve no interest or means to purchase a season ticket, particularly when appraised of the significant cost commitment involved. They shy away.
It would also make little commercial sense to inflate capacity; but rather, a constraint in this regard reinforces scarcity and maintains a price premium. Only a fool would work to dilute their brand value.
@@imconfused1237 Empty seats hasn't at all been a problem this season at Arsenal league games and only a fool would waste their time denying it
@@hegeliandianetik2009 And what does that reflect? A hopelessly fickle fanbase of ‘happy clappers’ who readily disappear when they’re not interested. It’s hardly an advertisement for expansion.
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*There are indeed empty seats at Arsenal Games (understandable considering how bad the club have been since 2006). However, it's not really the case that Arsenal are "making up the attendance figures", but rather they are defining it in terms of Tickets Sold for that Match (especially Season Tickets) rather than by Ticket Holders who actually turn up. Hence why actual attendances do not match the official figures.
That's why Matchday Revenue & Average Attendances per Season have remained more or less the same for the last decade. Even if the Empty Seat issue has gradually got worse.
*The thing is however; it actually costs quite a bit of cash to join the Season Ticket Waiting List (since you need to become a Red Member & pay to join the list itself) and stay there for every year. Thus in combination with the fact it's well known that Arsenal Season Tickets are quite expensive, it's almost certainly the case that the people (more or less) on the Season Ticket Waiting List are people who do actually want to get Arsenal Season Tickets.
Especially when almost nobody would be insane enough to spend money for being on waiting list for season tickets...when they don't want said season tickets anyway.
*Considering that I have established that Arsenal do have of Season Ticket Waiting List of around 40,000 (based on the figures I could find) and have the 10th Biggest Fanbase of any Football Club. Then it makes absolute sense to build a bigger & better stadium for Arsenal, especially if Arsenal end up in a position to being contenders for the PL & CL once again.
Regardless; what this shows is that Arsenal really need a more ambitious and free spending set of owners, mainly because that's the only way they can return to winning major trophies and getting that bigger & better stadium they need.
2:55 i thought my phone screen become eror for no reason.
1:00 at the moment surely Old Trafford is a *much* worse stadium than The Emirates right?
it's crazy that Emirates have stayed Arsenals sponsor for so long
Also hoping that the players on the stadium perimeter will include some from both men’s and women’s teams.
Might want to start by letting the womens team play there more regularly first. At the moment it’s not their home stadium
@@danielrainford2004 Sure, they should hopefully get to play there more often if more people go to watch them. Hopefully things will change on the front. However, it is their club and the Emirates stadium reflects the club as a whole.
@@sahilm2002 Don't really think the women's game is big enough to really justify it yet. Tho yes when their game is big enough put up some of their legends too.
I don't see the relevancies between this and Will Smith smacking Chris Rock.
Arsenal plays in it?
plays with ur mum every weekend
Nice use of Mr Bingo's font on the 'please fix' post-it :D
Am just happy that this improvements are coming to enhance our beautiful stadium 🏟
The comparisons with Anfield and Old Trafford are ridiculous
This is the best season for Arsenal under another manager rather than arsene wenger
Emery took you to a European final🤔
@@avikarsewpersad9856 Yeah and they got trashed by Chelsea. Arteta took them to an FA Cup final too
@@xlsanga44 Arteta won an FA Cup lol in his first few months too.
I want them to go back to Highbury, that is where our soul is
Having extra new seats in the 2 top corners of the ground without a screen and bringing safe standing behind each goal would also be a great start too
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The fact it isn’t Highbury.
I’m a spurs fan I’d say the WiFi is pretty awful at our new stadium too from experience
Heaven forbid you can’t use the wifi for 90 minutes at a football match
Of course it should be, imagine 60,000 people all trying to connect to wifi at the same time, of course it's gonna be slow
When I go to a football match, I go there to watch football. I don't go to a football match to watch telly whilst having a slash.
The Tefo boys don't really seem to like Arsenal?
There are no connectivity issues or delays in getting into the stadium with ticketless scanning, the exterior of the stadium needs massive redevelopment. It's not ok to have the Arsenal crest fading and legends tarnished. It's a wonderful stadium that has seen a massive improvement in atmosphere post covid lockdown. Yes, the food can be improved tenfold but trust me that's why I never eat or drink inside the stadium when there are wonderful local restaurants and pubs outside the stadium that welcome fans on match days.
There r issues w scanning
To answer the literal question: The fans.
you must have not watched any Arsenal home matches this season
@@hegeliandianetik2009 more than you buddy
The biggest issue with Arsenal's stadium is the team that plays there bro.
And why is that ?
Keep seeing these comments, not sure if United fans or just people who have small stadiums
@@Ownhd I am a small stadium club fan who are the current European and world champions.
Lol shut up
Stop grooming minors