MAX Comparison: Keychron 75% Showdown (Q1 + V1)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ม.ค. 2024
- The new MAX lineup from Keychron is poised to offer excellent value, but I suspect many will be conflicted about whether to settle with the plastic V1 Max or upgrade to the aluminum Q1 Max. In this video, I explore all the differences I could find from 1-month of using both.
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Holy moly, this was an excellent review! Thank you!
Thank you for such an in depth review!
You’re very welcome 👍
I have the Acoustic upgrade kit in my Q1 Pro and the Max definitely sounds even better stock. Nice to see Keychron is upping the game on those as I love the bouncy typing feel. To me thick PBT or ABS will change the sound drastically compared to those thin PBT caps that come with the keyboards. I have an original Q2 that I have modified quite a bit, it and my Q1 Pro are both setup with loud switches now and ABS caps for a loud clacky sound as they both leaned toward that anyway. I'm currently waiting for the Lemokey P1 which looks to be an aluminum V1 Max. Great video, amazing comparison detail, thank you!
Thanks for the detailed comment - I’m glad you liked the video 👍
Exactly the comparison I was waiting for ! As of now the Q1 and Q3 max are unavailable but the V3 max is... I'm tempted to buy the latter but I will wait for the Q1/Q3 max to be back in stock , as they sound better
Oh man - this video is pretty amazing, thanks for sharing all this information, helped me out to choose Q1 Max...
Thanks for the feedback Fernando - I’m glad to hear it helped 👍
I LOVE my Q6 Max w/ KSA keycaps and banana juniper switches. The KSA profile doesn't bother me at all. I really like them.
Amazing review, I just subscribed!
great review, learned a lot
Excellent comparison - one question I have for you is that I've noticed that the V1 Max feels much softer to type on than the standard V1, presumably due to the gaskets. With switches being the same, and sound aside, does the Q1 Max feel about the same? I really like the soft typing feel of the V1 Max, and am considering another for my Mac, but am curious if the Q1 Max has an even better typing feel, at over double the cost of the V1 Max.
I'm going to be using the V1 Max for a custom building I'm doing for a friend. I typically use Keyboard Customs pe foam fro my V1 builds since it's been great in my experience. Are the overall builds of the pcb identical between the old and new V1? I want to be sure the pe foam fits identically before I buy it.
Awesome work!
Thanks 👍
Looking into Keychron V1 Max or the Epomaker TH80 Pro V2. Which one do you think I should go for. Q1 Max is costly option for me, at least as of today. Thanks.
Will you do a sound test of the Q1 max with the tape mod? I was considering getting the rainy 75 but they don’t have a black version with RGB for some reason.
Yeah, that annoyed me too. They have the lite version black, the normal at least has silver but the pro only has really ugly colors. Kinda regret not getting the rainy 75 when I had the chance. Now it's only on indie gogo and the shipping says for june. No way I'm waiting that long. Ended up getting a v1 max, despite prefering a metal body
Have you tested with any non-stock switches? Looking into getting the Q3 Max barebones (which I expect is comparable to the Q1 Max) to use with Oil Kings
I haven’t yet, but I suspect I will get there eventually… I was thinking about picking up some oil kings eventually as well - let me know how you like them if you get there before I do 👍
11:40 Q1 Max Brown
11:52 Q1 Max Banana
these sound pretty loud if they're gasket mounted. i have the feker alice 80 and it sounds pretty quiet compared to this
Hi. Great video! I’m torn between the q1 max and the q2 pro - any ideas on what could help me decide?
Do you need the RF receiver? That would be a big pull to the Max. Otherwise, if you like the compactness of the Q2, there are some fun things you can do in QMK and VIA to achieve the same function bar stuff on the number row, etc.
Hello , great video and i have a couple of questions for you jake. Which keyboard would you recommend for a first mechanical keyboard the original v3(i like the tkl version not the smaller ones) or the v3 max. And if you opt for the v3 max is it worth 35 euro more than the original? Thank you.
Personally, I haven’t experienced the V3, but if it is like the V1 I think it is worth the upgrade to the Max. It isn’t as profound of a change as the Q-series, but it’s still a worthwhile upgrade if you like the sound change or need the RF adapter (hopefully they give you both USB-A and C like the V1 Max).
How loud are the jupyter red compared to jupyter brown and banana switches?
Are these tactile keys tolerable in an office environment?
it's an easy decisions for me a regular person like me. The cost for a steel case and more foam just isn't important to me. The prices are crazy to non enthusiasts. I'm not an enthusiast either. I just need a good wireless mechanical keyboard. For me the v1 max is the only one in the running. I prefer the darker color too though i wish it had black keys like the v1.
Pressing the spacebar with the index finger like a 5 year old that's literally typing on a keyboard for the first time in their life.
It’s funny, I’m in the process of making a video comparing all the switches on the new NuPhy Halo 75 V2, and I never noticed that I use my index finger as much as my thumb to hit the spacebar when typing until I was editing the sound samples🤣
I’ve no idea why some people want to add foam to their keyboards. It makes them sound like rubber dome keyboards of the undesirable kind. Looking at this from the vintage keyboard world 😅
The big question…
Is possible to swap the board?
I have a q6 pro and wondering if possible to swap the board of a v6 max to a q6 pro case that I already own.
Since the v6 max barebone is only 79 dollars. It would be a great upgrade if I could keep the case of my q6 pro that have the same daughter board position of a q6 max with a v6 max PCB and daughter board
I’m not sure about the 6-line or the Pro versions, but I can say that the V1 Max board cannot swap into the Q1 Max easily because they have slightly different layouts of the gasket wings, and they reverse whether the gasket foam is mounted to the plate or the body. Also, since the Q1 Max is aluminum it has an antenna to get the wireless signal out of the housing - there is not antenna port on the V1 Max.
So, while I’m not certain about the V6, I think it would be unlikely to be an easy swap.
amazing video, thanks for your effort.
i have q14 pro and v1(first one), looking another alice keyboard and found a good deal for q10(first one) which is 170 included shipping.
q10 max price is 230 included shipping, do you think $60 difference is worth it or not? do you think first gen q10 is outdated for 2024?
Is there any information about the actual wireless speed (2,4 ghz)? IS it good enough for competitve gaming?
It’s 2.4GHz polling at 1000Hz 👍
Just ordered V1 Max, but with Gateron Yellow switches, as I know how they feel and I really like them. Couldn't hold back :))
Will mode it close to same way I did my K2 v2, which is much more thockier and silent, compared to both here presented Q1 Max and definitely V1 Max.
Awesome, let me know what you work out for the space bar if yours is as rattled as mine ✌🏻
@@JakeReevesVideo So, I did some modding to the stabilisers and do not get any rattle, pure silent thock, no high pitches/sounds. Separately got set of dark blue/black Cherry double-shot PBT keycaps and it is looking dope. Once am done with whole modding surely it will be an awesome keyboard for sometime to come, considering the price.
@@VicharB What modifications did you make to the space bar to achieve your results?
@@JakeReevesVideo I kept the stock stabilisers (for now as used Durock stabs on my K2 V2), did holee mod, lubed everything, plus poron under metal stabs (between the brackets) and EVA pads where brackets sit. Good result, all keys are swift & near silent. Ah, the space bar is filled with acoustic dampening material (used in automobiles).
BTW, I didn't like the tactile Gateron Jupiter Banana switches that came with V1 Max and switched them to my currently preferred Gateron G Pro 3.0 Yellow linear switches, which I was also using on my K2 v2. Can you recommend me not costly linear silent switches that are more "creamier and silent" compared to G Pro 3.0 yellow?
Between the v1 max and nuphys offerings, which would you recommend?
Hmmm… my wife is using the NuPhy Halo96 with their Rose Glacier switches, and when I offered her to come take one she wanted to keep the NuPhy. It had the hybrid metal-plastic case which gives it a bit more heft too, which you may want to consider.
@@JakeReevesVideo Thanks! I'm trying to decide between the v1 max and the halo75
@@anishparulekar1171 what did you decide on?
Is it just me or the Q1's spacebar makes a rattling sound, while the V1's does not ?
Nice video. Do you still have stl files for 3D printed feet for q1 max ?
Thanks - I do, but I haven’t posted them to Printables yet - was working on getting a fully printable V1 Max case posted. DM or email me and I can send you the files
It will always boggle my mind on how the Q1 isn't just a straight upgrade tom the V1. Not having the extra receiver and keycaps are really strange to me. I didn't even realize that the Q1 doesn't come with a slot to hold the receiver. It's not like the V1 is definitely meant to be their portable line of keyboards. They have other keyboards for that. I still want the Q1 for the metal over the plastic but they're making it difficult.
Agreed 👍 little quirks like that I think are associated with the added aluminum machining costs, but it muddies the decision…
@Catalysten both Max models were just released in late 2023 - however, the V1 update was more substantial because the Q1 had a Pro model released last year, which was already better than the base Q1, while the V1 didn’t see the same thing.
Wow, the Q1 max sounds better but the spacebar sounds absolutely trash. It's almost sounds like another key instead of the space bar. Also super surprisded that the v1 max sounds better than the regular v1 because the regular has the silicone on the bottom. But the difference seems quite big. The max with the osa keycaps sounded best in my opinion (except that the spacebar still sounded bad). I want my space bar to sound a little distinct from all the toher keys. If the keys thock, the bar should thonk. For the stabs, I imagine a holy / holly (holli?) mod would fix that, maybe the some bandaid on the bottom.
what mods do you recommend for v1 max?
Tempest tape mod is never a bad place to start - I would also consider swapping out the PET switchpad for something more foamy (IXPE).
the v1 max is lighter than the v1 because it doesn't have the silicone on the bottom. Which honestly is kind of a disappointment. Instead it has foam. Also, I like my keyboards a bit heavy. I imagine the regular v1 sounds a bit better than the v1 max due to the silicone but haven't seen a comparison
Sound comparisons in this video as well as a separate one ✌🏻Max sounds better than the original V1 to my ear (considerably)
@@JakeReevesVideo I have the bad habbit of commenting before I finish a video lol. Thanks for the reivew/comparison. Really appreciate it. I just kinda bought thison a whim (partially because I dropped water on my k2v2 this morning, and I'm not sure if it's going to survive that.). Only regret is not buying the rainy 75 when they kept emailing me about it. But then again, I don't have the patience to wait that long (april). It's only available on indie right now but shipping is june. Although maybe I'll pick that one up in the future, esp if they don't end up doubling the price after release.
Isn’t the V1 max’s keycaps ABS?
Nope, double-shot PBT, OSA profile. Q1 Max is the same, but KSA profile
I love the V Max series but the color combination is.....
I’m working on something for that… stay tuned for my next video ✌🏻
Why does the Q1 max have to be so TALL o.0
How their latency perform?
They’re the same 👍
what does the knob do?
Default knob function is volume control (rotation) and mute (press), but you can customize these with QMK/VIA
@@JakeReevesVideo oh ok, thank you😁
11:06 12:18
the stabs still pingy
Yes, very much so. All my audio samples are without any tuning or additional lubing, so there is some work left for anyone who purchases either board.
@@JakeReevesVideo i got a Q6 Pro and it was pingy and I replaced it for gateron stabs
@@MoistAntt I doubt you'd even need to replace the stabs. Just do a holimod or whatever it's called. And the stab rattle will go away. Even on cheap plate mounted stabs as long as they aren't horrible qualiity it does wonders.
V1 max with type c Q1 max with only usb A what a joke
This is a problem, since we will probably see less and less USB A on Mainboards and this is a keyboard you probably use for a long time.