Thank you for revealing the construction differences of two versions. I have been holding back on buying anymore until now. I’m now looking forward to expanding my units. My wallet is not so happy with you but such is life.
Awesome video. Very informative. Definitely can see that 1.0 with the smaller part dimensions and even the visible damage to the torso that the 1.0 seems to be more susceptible to breakage. 2.0 seems to adress most of the issues. Again, thank you for sacrificing your marines for science! Belisarius Cawl called looking for a report! Lol...
Yeah most other joints will pop off readily (elbows, knees, bicep, thigh, hip, knees, ankles) but those shoulder blocks are nigh impossible to remove. Add the new pauldron loops to that list, I guess. 2.0 uses a lot of hard plastic sockets (on the torso and ankles) instead of just using barbell ball joints on the softer body plastics. Good vid!
You can just pop the entire arm out of the shoulder joint, and then slip the loop off the end of the now exposed peg, if you want to detach the pauldrons (other reviewers have done that a bunch both accidentally/intentionally when testing the limits of the articulation).
Great video thx for sharing! After watching a few of your videos I thought I gave you feedback regarding one of your clip style tools. I don't know if you're familiar with Joe Scott's videos, but he also uses a side camera which he calls his tangent cam. I think you could make your clips even more dynamic by also realigning with the side cam for example to bring across a point or in case you'd go on a tangent or rant etc.
Yeah was something that caught my eye was also telling my mom about the ankle joint on the aggressor figure I'm working on I told her if this figure haves a hard fall it's going to break from the weight it's so small so the bigger joint they added is nicer and for stable but in the video you forgot to check the bulk of the legs
@@SpruesNStuds They're just so fantastically fanatical. and I am not ashamed to admit that parts of Damnation Crusade brought tears to my eyes. Pain is an illusion of the body. Dispair is an illusion of the mind
Yes, I waited for this one. I guess 2.0 bodies is more durable, nice. And in terms of propotions, 2.0 is a way better, the pauldrons and the chest for example. And yes, you can pop out the shoulder joint of a 1.0 figure, and it's kinda crappy, too small and brittle. The piece that you saw when you tried it - it's not the point of rotation, it's the pin inside of it! And I hate this, honestly. This is good. Thanks for this detailed review, very helpful. And fun too!
I agree with you in that the 2.0 figs seem to be more...solid and better constructed. The only thing I don't like about them is how the pauldron is attached but overall, I like them. As I have said to other people on this channel, this was actually one of my most favorite videos to make. While I do love critiquing crappy paint jobs, I love getting into the guts of things and finding out how things work and this was the perfect video for that.
Yeah the 2.0 are much better than the 1.0. This is the case with the ankle joints. They are soooo much more stable than the 1.0. Also thanks for dropping by, leaving a comment, and supporting the channel!
If you want to pop the arm out of the socket on the 2.0 body to remove the pauldron, then lifting the arm up away from the body will do the trick very easily, once you get to the limits of the articulation (and then you can slide the loop of the pauldron off the end of the peg). The arm pops back into the shoulder socket just as easily.
Ahhh thanks for the info! TBH, I'm surprised (in a funny way) that's all you had to say about the vid. I was half expecting you'd chime in and say that I missed something...(or you are going easy on me lol). Regardless, I appreciate you.
@@SpruesNStuds You hit all the other pertinent bits, or at least demonstrated the differences visually on camera as you were dissecting your specimens, if you didn't comment on it specifically (such as the butterfly joints in the 2.0 shoulders). The reason you feel like the 2.0 has a better range of motion in the wrists, by the way (a thing you feel because it totally does), is because of the minor and hard to spot at a glance difference you overlooked between them: the joint itself hasn't been dramatically overhauled like with the feet, it's just the same type of barbell on both bodies, but that barbell protrudes slightly further away from the base of the wrist on the 2.0, so the hand sits less flush against the arm and thus can move further in all the directions available to it (the tradeoff for that increased motion being that the hands no longer sit as flush with the arm, ie, sometimes you can see the gap).
@@matthewyoho5422 Ahhhh so I wasn't wrong with the wrists. I just couldn't identify exactly why the range of motion felt better on the 2.0. Thanks for clarifying and letting me know. As usual, I appreciate you and your insights.
hey bud, you forgot to mention the detail at the back of the thighs are placed different. 2.0 has the 2 circle thingies lower to allow better leg bending than 1.0.
awesome comparison vid. i had fun watching this. question, does the new ankle joint feel any different? maybe it's better for stability? my 1.0 figs have tipped over by themselves several times already. i have yet to receive a 2.0 fig so idk yet if it made a difference. i was honestly surprised that the pauldron was bigger for the 2.0. i honestly didn't notice that. if you could influence changes to these figs, what would you change? i hope they can change the knee joints. they look off imo. i hope they put more meat into that joint to make it look a full leg and not segmented. having kneeling poses with this joint sometimes makes them appear like they have amputated legs.
Yooo! Thanks for watching the vid and commenting. I love how this channel is starting to have an active community and that community starts with you so many thanks! In terms of stability, I really did not notice whether 1.0 was easier/ harder to pose than the 2.0 version. However, looking at the connections of the 1.0 vs 2.0, I would think that the 2.0 would be more stable. In all honesty, what aggravates me the most is actually the stability of the action figs. They take me a while to pose correctly (I'm not having them do any wild poses) and they still tip over quite easily. For example for my favorite figures, the blade guard vets, they tip over all the damn time because of the Storm shield. I wish that JT can balance them better.
@@SpruesNStuds i was afraid of my bladeguard figs tipping over because they can fall on my shelf and possibly break the halo tips and that would suck. fortunately, they have been stable enough and none have fallen yet. maybe that's just because i have them just holding the shield close to their body. the fig that tipped for me the most are the aggressors. they are so top heavy.
@@SpruesNStuds It's a *night and day* difference between 1.0 and 2.0, in terms of ankle stability: particular older figures had stiffer ankle joints than others, but none of them were especially good at holding positions that relied on the ankles maintaining a specific position relative to the leg. The Bladeguard were some of the worst offenders, in the standard-size marine releases, a thing not helped by their storm shield (the worst of the lot were the larger figures like aggressors or chaos terminators, the only way I could get some of them to ever balance was to "trap" their feet with the other parts of the leg armor, so the weight of the figure couldn't shift them over time). The new ankle joint makes balancing marines and getting them to stay that way the work of seconds, of the seven 2.0 body figures in my collection so far I've yet to have so much as one of them tip over.
@@vaynelevant Yeah they are super top heavy and as stated before, the ankle joint on the 1.0 marines are terrible. What you mentioned about the halo tips happened to my BA Blade Guard. I opened up my cabinet, it fell over, and broke the halo on the backpack. I was so pissssssed when that happened.
@@SpruesNStuds sad to hear that yours broke off. were you able to fix it though? i am afraid of anything breaking off for me because i don't have the skill to fix anything outside using superglue 😅
I know it's late but how do you find out if they're 1.0, 2.0 or 3.0 when buying them from online shops/retailers? Is there any indication on the boxes? Thank You!
So "in general" you need to see the boxes in order to tell. The old boxes have a complete black background which would indicate the contents to be V1. In V2, the boxes in the front have a white border around the left hand side and then have a small black stripe running down the right side with a Warhammer logo on the bottom right hand side
@@SpruesNStuds thank you! Am new to the joytoy figures and was confused on which one to buy from online retailers, this will be a big help in my space marine journey!
I’m glad that you enjoyed the video! I’ll be honest I love these kinds of videos a lot more than my review videos because I learn so much when I am doing them. Thanks for the support!
Not too sure....however in terms of construction, I would say that the 2.0 is much more stable than 1.0. It seems like JT gave some thought on how to improve their figs and went ahead with those improvements.
That's just how they were painting this particular figure, for whatever reason, and I wouldn't say that it's necessarily indicative of how they mean to paint all Blood Angels going forwards: if you go back and look at the review of Lieutenant Tolmeron, he's also built on the 2.0 body, but painted more like that 1.0 release, in terms of the shading.
Kind of? For the 2.0 figures, the box will have a white border around it and it will show the faction of the Space Marine/ Ork/ etc with a banner on the left hand side of the picture of the action figure. Conversely, the 1.0 boxes have a black border around them.
The two figures being compared in this video come in different boxes, yes: the 1.0 body figure was originally in a box labeled "Blood Angels Intercessors" with art of him holding the bolt rifle also included, while the 2.0 body figure is in a box with that same label, but the art is the marine holding the heavy bolt pistol and chainsword. Both those figures used the older box art style (base black with the figure art in the center), by the way, the newer releases have all been arriving in boxes that look like the one the Company Champion was in (except with art/labels of them instead).
I'd like to know this too. I just started collecting the blood angels and I don't have death company or the interscesor squad yet. Are both those 1.0 or have they been converted to 2.0?
Finally a proper breakdown of the differences - well done.
Thank you! I appreciate you and your compliments. As I said, I had a really good time making this video.
Thank you for revealing the construction differences of two versions. I have been holding back on buying anymore until now. I’m now looking forward to expanding my units. My wallet is not so happy with you but such is life.
No problem! That’s what I am here for. I’m sorry about your wallet, but you’re not alone. My has been taking a royal beating with all the new releases
Awesome video. Very informative. Definitely can see that 1.0 with the smaller part dimensions and even the visible damage to the torso that the 1.0 seems to be more susceptible to breakage. 2.0 seems to adress most of the issues. Again, thank you for sacrificing your marines for science! Belisarius Cawl called looking for a report! Lol...
I'm glad that you found the video informative. That is the primary drive of this channel!
Yeah most other joints will pop off readily (elbows, knees, bicep, thigh, hip, knees, ankles) but those shoulder blocks are nigh impossible to remove. Add the new pauldron loops to that list, I guess.
2.0 uses a lot of hard plastic sockets (on the torso and ankles) instead of just using barbell ball joints on the softer body plastics.
Good vid!
You can just pop the entire arm out of the shoulder joint, and then slip the loop off the end of the now exposed peg, if you want to detach the pauldrons (other reviewers have done that a bunch both accidentally/intentionally when testing the limits of the articulation).
Many thanks for the compliments! I am glad that you enjoy the content and find it informative to watch.
Awesome dude! I was really looking for a video to see the differences and then only purchase 2.0 Marines
Hey there! Welcome to the chapter and thanks for leaving a comment. Your support is much appreciated and I’m glad you found the video helpful!
Great video thx for sharing!
After watching a few of your videos I thought I gave you feedback regarding one of your clip style tools. I don't know if you're familiar with Joe Scott's videos, but he also uses a side camera which he calls his tangent cam. I think you could make your clips even more dynamic by also realigning with the side cam for example to bring across a point or in case you'd go on a tangent or rant etc.
Yeah was something that caught my eye was also telling my mom about the ankle joint on the aggressor figure I'm working on I told her if this figure haves a hard fall it's going to break from the weight it's so small so the bigger joint they added is nicer and for stable but in the video you forgot to check the bulk of the legs
The ankle joint on the figs is a night and day difference. The 2.0 is wayyyyy more stable than the 1.0.
just finished reading Damnation Crusade. so damn good. ready to pull the trigger on the Black Templar Primaris Crusaders
There is something cool and badass about the black templars right? Dare I say that they might be more popular than their founding chapter????
@@SpruesNStuds They're just so fantastically fanatical. and I am not ashamed to admit that parts of Damnation Crusade brought tears to my eyes. Pain is an illusion of the body. Dispair is an illusion of the mind
Awesome video battle brother thanks for this review please keep up the good content 💪
Thanks for the continued support brother! You are much appreciated as a regular in the channel!
Yes, I waited for this one. I guess 2.0 bodies is more durable, nice. And in terms of propotions, 2.0 is a way better, the pauldrons and the chest for example.
And yes, you can pop out the shoulder joint of a 1.0 figure, and it's kinda crappy, too small and brittle. The piece that you saw when you tried it - it's not the point of rotation, it's the pin inside of it! And I hate this, honestly.
This is good.
Thanks for this detailed review, very helpful. And fun too!
I agree with you in that the 2.0 figs seem to be more...solid and better constructed. The only thing I don't like about them is how the pauldron is attached but overall, I like them.
As I have said to other people on this channel, this was actually one of my most favorite videos to make. While I do love critiquing crappy paint jobs, I love getting into the guts of things and finding out how things work and this was the perfect video for that.
I love the 2.0
Yeah the 2.0 are much better than the 1.0. This is the case with the ankle joints. They are soooo much more stable than the 1.0. Also thanks for dropping by, leaving a comment, and supporting the channel!
If you want to pop the arm out of the socket on the 2.0 body to remove the pauldron, then lifting the arm up away from the body will do the trick very easily, once you get to the limits of the articulation (and then you can slide the loop of the pauldron off the end of the peg). The arm pops back into the shoulder socket just as easily.
Ahhh thanks for the info!
TBH, I'm surprised (in a funny way) that's all you had to say about the vid. I was half expecting you'd chime in and say that I missed something...(or you are going easy on me lol).
Regardless, I appreciate you.
@@SpruesNStuds You hit all the other pertinent bits, or at least demonstrated the differences visually on camera as you were dissecting your specimens, if you didn't comment on it specifically (such as the butterfly joints in the 2.0 shoulders).
The reason you feel like the 2.0 has a better range of motion in the wrists, by the way (a thing you feel because it totally does), is because of the minor and hard to spot at a glance difference you overlooked between them: the joint itself hasn't been dramatically overhauled like with the feet, it's just the same type of barbell on both bodies, but that barbell protrudes slightly further away from the base of the wrist on the 2.0, so the hand sits less flush against the arm and thus can move further in all the directions available to it (the tradeoff for that increased motion being that the hands no longer sit as flush with the arm, ie, sometimes you can see the gap).
@@matthewyoho5422 Ahhhh so I wasn't wrong with the wrists. I just couldn't identify exactly why the range of motion felt better on the 2.0. Thanks for clarifying and letting me know.
As usual, I appreciate you and your insights.
Your sacrifice was noted by the Emperor.
YASSS! I've always wanted to be in the Emperor's good graces.
hey bud, you forgot to mention the detail at the back of the thighs are placed different. 2.0 has the 2 circle thingies lower to allow better leg bending than 1.0.
Thanks for letting me know. I told you that I was going to miss something!
Are the shoulder joints the same with body 1 and 2? 7:11
awesome comparison vid. i had fun watching this. question, does the new ankle joint feel any different? maybe it's better for stability? my 1.0 figs have tipped over by themselves several times already. i have yet to receive a 2.0 fig so idk yet if it made a difference. i was honestly surprised that the pauldron was bigger for the 2.0. i honestly didn't notice that.
if you could influence changes to these figs, what would you change? i hope they can change the knee joints. they look off imo. i hope they put more meat into that joint to make it look a full leg and not segmented. having kneeling poses with this joint sometimes makes them appear like they have amputated legs.
Yooo! Thanks for watching the vid and commenting. I love how this channel is starting to have an active community and that community starts with you so many thanks!
In terms of stability, I really did not notice whether 1.0 was easier/ harder to pose than the 2.0 version. However, looking at the connections of the 1.0 vs 2.0, I would think that the 2.0 would be more stable.
In all honesty, what aggravates me the most is actually the stability of the action figs. They take me a while to pose correctly (I'm not having them do any wild poses) and they still tip over quite easily. For example for my favorite figures, the blade guard vets, they tip over all the damn time because of the Storm shield. I wish that JT can balance them better.
@@SpruesNStuds i was afraid of my bladeguard figs tipping over because they can fall on my shelf and possibly break the halo tips and that would suck. fortunately, they have been stable enough and none have fallen yet. maybe that's just because i have them just holding the shield close to their body. the fig that tipped for me the most are the aggressors. they are so top heavy.
@@SpruesNStuds It's a *night and day* difference between 1.0 and 2.0, in terms of ankle stability: particular older figures had stiffer ankle joints than others, but none of them were especially good at holding positions that relied on the ankles maintaining a specific position relative to the leg. The Bladeguard were some of the worst offenders, in the standard-size marine releases, a thing not helped by their storm shield (the worst of the lot were the larger figures like aggressors or chaos terminators, the only way I could get some of them to ever balance was to "trap" their feet with the other parts of the leg armor, so the weight of the figure couldn't shift them over time).
The new ankle joint makes balancing marines and getting them to stay that way the work of seconds, of the seven 2.0 body figures in my collection so far I've yet to have so much as one of them tip over.
@@vaynelevant Yeah they are super top heavy and as stated before, the ankle joint on the 1.0 marines are terrible.
What you mentioned about the halo tips happened to my BA Blade Guard. I opened up my cabinet, it fell over, and broke the halo on the backpack. I was so pissssssed when that happened.
@@SpruesNStuds sad to hear that yours broke off. were you able to fix it though? i am afraid of anything breaking off for me because i don't have the skill to fix anything outside using superglue 😅
Does anyone know if the standard imperial fists intercessor is 1.0 or 2.0?
Thanks 4 this brother...
Thank you for your support battle brother! This was a really fun video to make.
I know it's late but how do you find out if they're 1.0, 2.0 or 3.0 when buying them from online shops/retailers? Is there any indication on the boxes? Thank You!
So "in general" you need to see the boxes in order to tell. The old boxes have a complete black background which would indicate the contents to be V1. In V2, the boxes in the front have a white border around the left hand side and then have a small black stripe running down the right side with a Warhammer logo on the bottom right hand side
@@SpruesNStuds thank you! Am new to the joytoy figures and was confused on which one to buy from online retailers, this will be a big help in my space marine journey!
Version 1 look like they should have been firstborn, with the bigger chest plate. I wonder if they were changed last minute
They could have been...all I know is that I prefer V2 because the ankle joints are more stable and they are much easier to pose.
Coooooool 😊
Hey thanks! I hope that you found the vid informative
thank you so much for making this video! It was awesome seeing such a thorough breakdown.
I’m glad that you enjoyed the video! I’ll be honest I love these kinds of videos a lot more than my review videos because I learn so much when I am doing them. Thanks for the support!
It is the shadows? 1.0 looks more realistic.
Not too sure....however in terms of construction, I would say that the 2.0 is much more stable than 1.0. It seems like JT gave some thought on how to improve their figs and went ahead with those improvements.
That's just how they were painting this particular figure, for whatever reason, and I wouldn't say that it's necessarily indicative of how they mean to paint all Blood Angels going forwards: if you go back and look at the review of Lieutenant Tolmeron, he's also built on the 2.0 body, but painted more like that 1.0 release, in terms of the shading.
I’ve been thinking of getting into these figures, but is it indicated on the box that its 2.0?
Kind of? For the 2.0 figures, the box will have a white border around it and it will show the faction of the Space Marine/ Ork/ etc with a banner on the left hand side of the picture of the action figure. Conversely, the 1.0 boxes have a black border around them.
Are they different boxes? How can you tell them apart at the store?
The two figures being compared in this video come in different boxes, yes: the 1.0 body figure was originally in a box labeled "Blood Angels Intercessors" with art of him holding the bolt rifle also included, while the 2.0 body figure is in a box with that same label, but the art is the marine holding the heavy bolt pistol and chainsword.
Both those figures used the older box art style (base black with the figure art in the center), by the way, the newer releases have all been arriving in boxes that look like the one the Company Champion was in (except with art/labels of them instead).
Exactly what Matthew had said. Thanks Matthew!
So do the 1.0 heads fit the 2.0 bodies?
Yes, the 1.0 heads do fit the 2.0 bodies. They are connected by a barbell joint which should be the same size for the head and for the body.
Which blood angles are 2.0?
The upcoming Blood Angels Veterans, Lieutenant Tolmeron, and the one that was reviewed in this vid. So as of this time, there are not many.
@@SpruesNStuds so the intercessor are version 1? I know there’s a new assault one coming out
I'd like to know this too. I just started collecting the blood angels and I don't have death company or the interscesor squad yet. Are both those 1.0 or have they been converted to 2.0?