That was actually excellent. I know it’s mid summer and it’s a football desert and you have to find content in dry times etc etc but what you end up with is a load of fans talking about signing what we’d like to make …….endlessly. This, on the other hand, was really interesting, relevant and informative. This is very, very important to our club and getting some experts in to talk about it is a coup. Well done. We can go back to our best midfield three and who exploits the half space best when the shooting starts with Southampton at home. But in the meantime this is quality. Thanks.
Thank you for your comment. Glad you enjoyed it. It is something we try to keep getting updates on to see if the landscape has changed around the discussion at all. We have the longer version of the pod available on supporting platforms, which they go into a lot more details as well, if you want to hear more of it.
Am I the only one worrying that the Saudi's are going to give up on the project? They wouldn't have realised how difficult the FA were going to make it before they bought the club
Really enjoyed this episode. It’s nice to hear an educated perspective. There’s a lot of sense being spoken even though it’s not necessarily what we want to hear. The next few years are going to be very interesting for everyone related to NUFC. I personally can’t wait for the club statement with regards to future growth of the stadium. I feel that I have a connection to the club again yet saddened by Amanda’s departure we still look towards the future in a positive way. It’s exciting, creative, ambitious all the things it never was under the previous shit bag. I’ve never understood why Ashley wasn’t questioned about sports washing. He is still one of the biggest contributors to child labour in the world and yet this still goes completely unchallenged by practically anyone. The fact is Ashley was/is sports washing because he was promoting his brands made with child labour and nobody noticed. Meanwhile Saudi Arabia are in the world’s spot light for their human rights abuses so things are done with careful consideration. As for comparison on their ownership of NUFC I’d happily have PiF and the Reubens over Ashley any day of the week. It’s night and day. Owners come and go as do players and fans the only difference being fans are here for life. Football is all about the here and now and everything is about those 90+ minutes and enjoying them and nothing more. So I’m happy right here right now just enjoying what’s happening at the Club I love. ⚫️⚪️✊🏻
While I cannot stand Le grand Michelle at least he just banned journalists that he didn’t like. He didn’t chop them up with a bone saw (well, not that we know of:) The fact is that a person dying of thirst will take a drink from anyone. Coupled with the investment and the fact the place seems to be run by grown ups now it does seem that it’s all much better. But the fact remains that Saudi Arabia is a Very Bad Place. But what can you do? Can’t just stop supporting the Toon. It’s like saying “oh just stop loving that person!” You just can’t do it.
@@geordiedog1749 I’ve never been to Saudi Arabia so I don’t know if it’s a very bad place as you have suggested. It has different laws and religions. The laws are based on their religious beliefs so I guess if you break the laws of their religion then yes I would imagine it’s not very nice to be classed as a criminal there. I’m not condoning what goes on there I’m honestly not qualified or experienced enough to have the answers tbh. But what I can say is that since the takeover the human rights system of Saudi Arabia has been highlighted more than ever before. So it’s hard to say it’s sports washing if anything owning NUFC has put Saudi Arabia under a brighter spot light. Which isn’t a bad thing is it?
If sportwashing leads them to improve their human rights record because the world is scrutinising them, it is better than forcing sanctions on them and destabilising the region, which will make human rights issues worse.
11:22, you're right. Because all the teams in the Premier League know newcastle United has the best and most loyal fans! We could have had more at hull if they had given us enough tickets
Yes, a very informative video, Saudi definitely want bang for their buck, an as was said, the off field set up is mighty important, and imo we have now terrific strength in that department.
I think I get where you’re coming from but I don’t think it would be the case. I’d agree that because it’s us there’s a lot more kerfuffle than there might be with a cartel six side. Well, in fact, that is the case. Take Man Ure for example.
Mr. Simon Chadwick claims that the 170-kilometer-long Line will be shortened to three kilometers by the Saudi government because of its high cost. This statement is incorrect and demonstrates ignorance and lack of knowledge. The truth is that Saudi Arabia has completed the necessary infrastructure for the initial three kilometers, and construction of the remaining 170 kilometers will continue. Therefore, Mr. Chadwick's statement is false and misleading, and I do not understand why he provided this incorrect information.
To be fair there were lots of reports to this effect (countless news outlets) earlier this year. Obviously this has been disputed by Saudi officials. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle AND ultimately nobody knows yet do they. We shall see 😌
@@sicampbell11 To be fair, let’s read the report on Saudi Arabia’s bid to host the 2034 World Cup. We will see that one of the 11 stadiums planned for construction will be in the city of Line. It is always better to get information directly from the primary source.😉
Great podcast/youtube viewing…imo I disagree…in this day and age coming into football isn’t, unless you are Cashley😂, about making money…PIF is worth soooo much money and it’s sort of never ending with Bin Salaman worth £2 trillion so Simon’s idea they are investing £1 to make £1.50 I think is wide of the mark, they want to use Toon as a project to show what can be done with their £ and like Abu Dabi/Qatar it is a long term project which is for one thing only not cash, it’s success🎉
A West Ham fan casting aspersions on our club's owners. At least the Saudis aren't porn merchants like the owners of the cuddly, family-orientated Hammers. The hypocrisy of other football fans is laughable
Hinterland! Manchester is in a much more densely populated part of the country. It’s a massive conurbation. We’ve got a few small towns north, the Kielder reservoir west, the dark place to the south and the North Sea to the east. Manchester is also massively easier to get to than Newcastle. Point is we have probably a limit on how big our ticket buying fan base can get.
West ham fan talkign about sport washing 🥱 all clubs would jump at owners with money and spare me that they would conflicted🤣. The fans living in the west with europe in shit telling saudis how they should live and complaining about sportwashing are clueless. Eventually they may move on but the club will be in a great place and not like when the useless cashley was owner. Amanda will never be forgotten but she is not a football person , they are putting structure in place with quality background team like earles and mitchell
That was actually excellent. I know it’s mid summer and it’s a football desert and you have to find content in dry times etc etc but what you end up with is a load of fans talking about signing what we’d like to make …….endlessly. This, on the other hand, was really interesting, relevant and informative. This is very, very important to our club and getting some experts in to talk about it is a coup. Well done. We can go back to our best midfield three and who exploits the half space best when the shooting starts with Southampton at home. But in the meantime this is quality. Thanks.
Thank you for your comment. Glad you enjoyed it. It is something we try to keep getting updates on to see if the landscape has changed around the discussion at all. We have the longer version of the pod available on supporting platforms, which they go into a lot more details as well, if you want to hear more of it.
Very interesting podcast - it throws a different light on the off-field changes that are taking place.
Excellent podcast guys, really interesting and insightful. It's a great journey to be on, let's see where it goes HWTL
Am I the only one worrying that the Saudi's are going to give up on the project? They wouldn't have realised how difficult the FA were going to make it before they bought the club
The only thing that worries me is all the doom and gloom from our own supporters. Life really is too short for that$h¡t.
Really enjoyed this episode. It’s nice to hear an educated perspective. There’s a lot of sense being spoken even though it’s not necessarily what we want to hear.
The next few years are going to be very interesting for everyone related to NUFC. I personally can’t wait for the club statement with regards to future growth of the stadium.
I feel that I have a connection to the club again yet saddened by Amanda’s departure we still look towards the future in a positive way.
It’s exciting, creative, ambitious all the things it never was under the previous shit bag.
I’ve never understood why Ashley wasn’t questioned about sports washing. He is still one of the biggest contributors to child labour in the world and yet this still goes completely unchallenged by practically anyone.
The fact is Ashley was/is sports washing because he was promoting his brands made with child labour and nobody noticed. Meanwhile Saudi Arabia are in the world’s spot light for their human rights abuses so things are done with careful consideration.
As for comparison on their ownership of NUFC I’d happily have PiF and the Reubens over Ashley any day of the week. It’s night and day. Owners come and go as do players and fans the only difference being fans are here for life.
Football is all about the here and now and everything is about those 90+ minutes and enjoying them and nothing more.
So I’m happy right here right now just enjoying what’s happening at the Club I love. ⚫️⚪️✊🏻
While I cannot stand Le grand Michelle at least he just banned journalists that he didn’t like. He didn’t chop them up with a bone saw (well, not that we know of:)
The fact is that a person dying of thirst will take a drink from anyone. Coupled with the investment and the fact the place seems to be run by grown ups now it does seem that it’s all much better. But the fact remains that Saudi Arabia is a Very Bad Place. But what can you do? Can’t just stop supporting the Toon. It’s like saying “oh just stop loving that person!” You just can’t do it.
@@geordiedog1749 I’ve never been to Saudi Arabia so I don’t know if it’s a very bad place as you have suggested. It has different laws and religions. The laws are based on their religious beliefs so I guess if you break the laws of their religion then yes I would imagine it’s not very nice to be classed as a criminal there. I’m not condoning what goes on there I’m honestly not qualified or experienced enough to have the answers tbh. But what I can say is that since the takeover the human rights system of Saudi Arabia has been highlighted more than ever before. So it’s hard to say it’s sports washing if anything owning NUFC has put Saudi Arabia under a brighter spot light. Which isn’t a bad thing is it?
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If sportwashing leads them to improve their human rights record because the world is scrutinising them, it is better than forcing sanctions on them and destabilising the region, which will make human rights issues worse.
11:22, you're right. Because all the teams in the Premier League know newcastle United has the best and most loyal fans! We could have had more at hull if they had given us enough tickets
Yes, a very informative video, Saudi definitely want bang for their buck, an as was said, the off field set up is mighty important, and imo we have now terrific strength in that department.
First rate content 👌🏻
Great content, really interesting. Thanks for this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Give it a rest if they had bought Liverpool or any team down London nout would have been having this conversation
I think I get where you’re coming from but I don’t think it would be the case. I’d agree that because it’s us there’s a lot more kerfuffle than there might be with a cartel six side. Well, in fact, that is the case. Take Man Ure for example.
Great pod - look forward to listening to the full interviews on Patreon!
Extremely insightful pod. Phase 2 is where quality coals get added to our fire!
Let's hope so! glad you enjoyed it.
Mr. Simon Chadwick claims that the 170-kilometer-long Line will be shortened to three kilometers by the Saudi government because of its high cost. This statement is incorrect and demonstrates ignorance and lack of knowledge. The truth is that Saudi Arabia has completed the necessary infrastructure for the initial three kilometers, and construction of the remaining 170 kilometers will continue. Therefore, Mr. Chadwick's statement is false and misleading, and I do not understand why he provided this incorrect information.
To be fair there were lots of reports to this effect (countless news outlets) earlier this year.
Obviously this has been disputed by Saudi officials.
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle AND ultimately nobody knows yet do they. We shall see 😌
@@sicampbell11
To be fair, let’s read the report on Saudi Arabia’s bid to host the 2034 World Cup. We will see that one of the 11 stadiums planned for construction will be in the city of Line. It is always better to get information directly from the primary source.😉
is it down to the lake i fear ? i i i i here i go
Phase 2 must include replacing Howe with an elite manager.
Yawn……….
He's the best English manager around, leave our Eddie alone
For getting us UCL sooner than expected? Give your head a wobble mate
Change is already happening in the Toon. Look around.
Great podcast/youtube viewing…imo I disagree…in this day and age coming into football isn’t, unless you are Cashley😂, about making money…PIF is worth soooo much money and it’s sort of never ending with Bin Salaman worth £2 trillion so Simon’s idea they are investing £1 to make £1.50 I think is wide of the mark, they want to use Toon as a project to show what can be done with their £ and like Abu Dabi/Qatar it is a long term project which is for one thing only not cash, it’s success🎉
A West Ham fan casting aspersions on our club's owners. At least the Saudis aren't porn merchants like the owners of the cuddly, family-orientated Hammers. The hypocrisy of other football fans is laughable
Aye reet , the Saudis only murder journalists
man utd after 100000 stadium if we dont move to a massive stadium we will never compete with the top teams
Hinterland! Manchester is in a much more densely populated part of the country. It’s a massive conurbation. We’ve got a few small towns north, the Kielder reservoir west, the dark place to the south and the North Sea to the east. Manchester is also massively easier to get to than Newcastle. Point is we have probably a limit on how big our ticket buying fan base can get.
With PSR we will be limited to what we can do
West ham fan talkign about sport washing 🥱 all clubs would jump at owners with money and spare me that they would conflicted🤣. The fans living in the west with europe in shit telling saudis how they should live and complaining about sportwashing are clueless. Eventually they may move on but the club will be in a great place and not like when the useless cashley was owner. Amanda will never be forgotten but she is not a football person , they are putting structure in place with quality background team like earles and mitchell