FSU is going to do what is best for them as their legal contracts allow them. They will go SEC in a heartbeat if ESPN can offer the SEC on a quicker timeline. That and to get out of all the lawsuits. I can see ESPN wanting to keep FSU in their stable and there is a simple fix. Re up the ACC contract as is until 2036. Doing so takes any losses FSU and Clemson leaving causes everybody else so there really is not GOR loss to mitigate. For essentially taking the GOR cost away from FSU and Clemson and to stop all legal cost, they go to the SEC. I don't think FSu would go PAC 12 on an offer like that.
@@knumbskullnews3460 Agreed, it's just a negotiation but there are so many FSU people who have this victim mentality, always using terms like dictate and bully. What a bunch of snowflakes.
I think ESPN burned that bridge when they had their loud mouths, talking heads plant seeds to diminish FSU chances for the playoffs but again money talk and ESPN have to really sweating the pot for them to actually join.
I think the irony was lost on Knumbskull that he opened by railing on Finebaum for "knowing jack s-", then spent the next 17 minutes pulling speculative nonsense out of his backside to keep arguing for Clemson and FSU to the SEC.
@@knumbskullnews3460 But it is NOT ALL speculation. Some of us KNOW things. The Vast Majority of you INCLUDING YOU are Speculating and using INCOMPLETE DATA to do so.
@@knumbskullnews3460 Not really. We had decades of history coming into this realignment. We now have 3 years of actual events and credible reporting. We now have very informed speculation while you just ignore the evidence.
If FSU goes to the SEC it will only because a deal is cut between the ACC, FSU, and ESPN that will allow FSU to go to the SEC without any HOR payout to the ACC. FSU would only pay the Exit fee of 120 million and ESPN may even be willing to assume some of that to keep FSU in a conference ESPN controls the media rights too and the know the Big 12 isn't an option for FSU.
@tarheel7406 No, but they own the media rights and are in a position to renegotiate them beyond 2027, which gives them influence over the ACC in their negotiations with FSU over their GOR. Allowing FSU and Clemson to exit without a GOR payout to go to the SEC in exchange for maintaining current or increased media rights payout beyond 2027 makes them an influential party in the process.
@@garyscott4847 You noted the GOR (sic), which requires a unanimous vote of the ACC members for a release. ESPN is in the position to claim (or not) a breach of the media deal if any member is released from the GOR. Regardless, the SEC isn't taking just CLEMSON and FSU. They don't have the interest.
He (ESPN) should know Florida State University viewership numbers is higher than any public or private university in the State of Florida & 2nd only to UGA in Georgia for viewership. For the last 20+ years Florida State viewership for the Regular Season tv viewership has not fallen below 9th. I would truly enjoy kicking Paul’s A_S!! All I would ask from you my friend is to sit on him after the A_S Kicking, while I put a good shining on that bald uniform head with sand paper!! Doesn’t that sound like B1G or Big XII FUN?!?!! **SEC/ESPN Will be getting home & home series with FSU, starting with Alabama kicking off the 2025 Season in Tallahassee at Doak Campbell Stadium. The 120 days of negotiations began long ago for the ACC/FSU Case & a mediator was sent long ago. All that hidden aka secrets will be open to the public day-1 thanks to the Sunshine Law: The ACC Will settle with Florida State & I believe it will be $250 Million or less & that amount will include the exit fee. Again Circuit Judge John Cooper once me makes Decision/Ruling it carries the full Authority of a State of Florida Court of Appeal. Only the Florida Supreme Court could overturn his ruling. There will be a figure & Clemson & UNC & Miami could use. ESPN seems to have interest in a restructured ACC with OSU & WSU, West Virginia, and a mid country to join School/team to pick up. University of South Florida wants in on this new ACC. 🐴🔥🏹
@@CJWhite-bg3vl LMAO. OK THEN. Say NO when the Offer comes. You won't. Stay in a Big 12 that is about to lose Utah, Kansas, OK State, TCU, Texas Tech, Arizona and either Colorado or Cincinnati.
@@CJWhite-bg3vl Since Tier 2 football will be fungible, that WVU would favor the already Tier 2 BIG12 over the future Tier 2 ACC proves why WVU would have never been (and will never be) a good fit.
I disagree with the term controlled demolition, I see it as a deliberate restructure. The ACC is not going to be demolished but instead it will just go through a reorganization.
It does seem like the SEC gets what it wants first and then the B10. How much it wants FSU or doesn't want the B10 to obtain them to me is the main question.
I don't believe in these colleges education ratings. I heard many professors from Harvard and Yale said they just gave kids A's even if the kid didn't show up for class because the college made them do it and I even seen Oregon and one other college but I would say many do it just gave the kids A's because it's racist not to. Be leaving these college education ratings is been naive and stupid and most of these smart kids in college are not smart because of the college it's because of their parents and former teachers before they got to college, they just recruited them. Has anyone even seen the kids coming out of Harvard yeah I'm would not hiring them to do anything not even to cut my grass. Stay off my lawn Harvard graduates. 😁😂🤣
Did they make everybody in the PAC happy? Everybody is not going to be cool. Seems way cheaper for ESPN to just re up the contract as is and for accepting that contract, release FSU and maybe and maybe not Clemson. Could be cheaper this way and maybe more money for ESPN with an ACC doing the same in the east as the Big 12 in the midwest.
Going into yesterday I was 70/30 FSU to the Bigten. Now with latest murmurs I have switched to 80/20 FSU to the SEC. However theirs one thing that FSU needs to figure out. The Bigten can offer A) Letting FSU own it's own state. B) National brand that travels to LA, Washington to NY and DC. Those are two things the SEC can't provide. Would FSU just become another team in the SEC? Give up a whole state?
I’m and FSU fan, and I would much rather us go to the SEC. I think we fit in both culturally and geographically in the SEC. And FSU-Texas, FSU-Bama, FSU-Auburn, sound a lot more interesting than FSU-Ohio State, FSU-Penn State, FSU-Iowa
@@knumbskullnews3460 I'm with Art. I often don't agree with Knumbskull but I like his style. He seems like a good dude who would be fun to knock down some beers with. I'm a Big Ten alum but the plight of the Big 12 resonates with me. I hate all the venom thrown at the Big 12 for simply just trying to survive in this cutthroat college athletics world. I hope the XII get strong enough to become the P3. By the way, Bob Thompson was the President of Fox Sports and co-founder of the Big Ten Network. He may not be in the room now, but I think there are very few people in the world that would have a better understanding of what the Big Ten wants and I don't think the few people who do know better are sharing their knowledge with us plebeians.
@@slten12 a) There is no longer a feasible path to a peer P3. b) If BIG12 fans accepted the reality of is relegation down to a new Tier 2, people wouldn't have to push back on their delusions.
The B1G decided to focus on revenue over competitiveness. As a result, it has kept ahead of everyone else in revenue but has declined to #3 in competitiveness. The SEC is closing the revenue gap and is now #1 in competitiveness. If the B1G can't leverage that revenue advantage during this last major realignment, it will fall to #2 in both for the foreseeable future.
I’m kind of a college football independent. I’d be inclined to watch more FSU games if that band would stop playing that’s idiotic war chant ALL THE TIME! And that tomahawk chop is as irritating as the Florida gator chomp. C’mon folks give it an occasional rest.
Hey, not fair...Everyone hates Florida State, not just the Big 10. Give the rest of us some credit please. By the way...you're just 100% wrong about most of your AAU assertions. There is no "in the running" to be in the AAU. And, NO, you can’t just "go get it"...a school must first be nominated by existing members and then must go through an extremely rigorous multi-year evaluation process. If the school “passes” that, then a vote is taken by the existing members. If the school makes it through that, it is then passed on to the executive board for final review. If the school passes review it is then invited to join. This whole process can take up to 3-4 years in most cases. And, its not like “oh we just missed it this year”, the whole process starts over each time…the school must be nominated again and then evaluated again and then voted on again and reviewed again…it is involved and very lengthy. Now, I’m sure if a school is nominated in consecutive years then they can likely breeze through some of the process and it probably would take a bit less time but we’re still talking a minimum of a year or so. And, they don’t just add schools each year or even on a regular basis. They convene once a year and then may or may not have nominations. There are only 71 AAU schools [out of 15,000]. Nebraska lost its AAU membership because they didn’t fund enough research & development over multiple years and were expelled. It will be way harder for them to get invited back into the AAU at this point. Conversely Syracuse withdrew from AAU membership but had consistently maintained their research status and followed established requirements in leaving. They are still in good standing and it would likely be easier for them to be asked back.
I believe I said it’s a process and FSU has been working on it. Besides the Big 10 likely know a few folks who can expedite the process. Let’s don’t act like this thing isn’t political.
@@tarheel7406there he is again...boy you have no life following all the fsu podcasts spouting your nonsense. What a loser. Look in the mirror at your program - apathetic fans, terrible tv ratings, bad teams and egos the size of Georgia with zero reason....go out and touch some grass instead of following FSU - we do t care about you guys other than the cronyism and nepotism your school exercised to ruin the ACC...Swafford is your guy and you can't run from it
@@cdray-qy7wp UNC is the/a top expansion target of the SEC and B1G. The buzz now is that FSU is panicking and reaching out to the pitiful BIG12. FSU pushed for those failed expansions. T-Road opposed. That's one of FSU's failures here, the refusal to accept its responsibilities. The outside sees this on top of the foolish scorched earth tactics. If the SEC/B1G don't go to ~24, it appears that not only did FSU get the CFP snub but will also be relegated down to the Tier 2. A cautionary tale of pride and folly.
You must have had a crazy upbringing. You and your brother Tyrus must have given your parents a hand full. But now Tyrus is big on Fox and you big on youtube.
Silly as always. The B1G hates FSU no more than it hates TULANE. FSU simply is the 4th (at best) expansion priority for the B1G. Any interest may have been contingent on the higher 3, yet none appear to be available to the B1G. The B1G would have to make a number of exceptions to historical preferences, and FSU would be a risk on an island on top of all that. The B1G is very likely having to reevaluate its options given that some assumptions have failed.
The whole Clemson to the SEC is rather tiresome. They have a Location Problem (among others) that can't be solved by a few good years. They need to hope the ACC stays together in some form. (One might question FSU's importance as well.) Could the ACC actually survive?
@@TheOracleOfTH-cam I suspected that CLEMSON was wiser than FSU and allied with UNC for a unified strategy and a coattail to the SEC. The ACC should survive as a Tier 2.
❤@@tarheel7406Clemson with UNC to SEC and BIG pausing is a dream scenario for Big 12. FSU, Miami, L'ville and one more would be stupid not to seriously consider Big 12, making for a fantastic conference.
Sadly the ACC will either go away or become the newest G5 Conference. The SEC and Big Ten are going to cherry pick the ACC then turn their attention back to the Big 12 and do the same. Then the Big Ten and SEC are going to secede with two 24 team leagues and form their own league. Then the left overs from the ACC, Big 12 along with the MWC, AAC, MAC, Conference USA, Sun Belt will form a 2nd Tier League with their own playoff. Bottom line
@@tarheel7406 are you paid by the ACC or something? The conference did used to be one of the Premier conference, but poor management and the back room deals done to benefit the previous commissioner and his family undid that can you blame Florida State for not wanting to continue unequal revenue sharing?
@@tarheel7406 what evidence do you have that it’s not true? And let me also ask you this. Does North Carolina contribute the same amount of revenue sharing as Florida State does North Carolina generate the same amount of revenue as Florida state and if you feel like they do, please inform me where I can obtain this information so that I can be properly informed lol. because I’m pretty sure when it comes to viewership revenue production, and several other factors, Florida State and Clemson has been the ACC official cash cows for quite some time now.
Adding FSU and clemson to SEC cost: $5 pay increase × 16= $80m per yr $65m FSU $65m clemson That cost ESPN $210 per year just for adding two schools....aint happening.
@@knumbskullnews3460take a step back...youre married to this premium matchup idea. Its not that valuable. The GOR is far more valuable. But whatever...we might see soon enough.
@@knumbskullnews3460 Spotted the below figures lurking the USCAR message board: From Nielsen: ACC Leaders in Media Exposure Value (Last 3 Years) 1. Duke men’s basketball ($995.0M) 2. UNC men’s basketball ($892.5M) 3. FSU football ($795.2M) 4. Clemson football ($677.1M)
B1G recent expansion gives us the answer, an academic school to keep the presidents happy + a football school to make the networks happy. Notre Dame + literally anyone is the exception otherwise some combo of: Academic: UNC, Stanford, GT TV: FSU, Clemson, Miami (if no FSU)
@@ScottyDuke-kc7uc, no, we're laughing at you. Y'all are still cryin about not getting in the Playoffs, but then choose to ignore the embarrassing 63-3 loss, while still believing the delusion that you would have won the National Championship.
Big 10 dont braindead finebaum dont know nothing and dont know what he talking about he needs to follow his sec teams and keep kissing sec butt and espn teams
He (ESPN) should know Florida State University viewership numbers is higher than any public or private university in the State of Florida & 2nd only to UGA in Georgia for viewership. For the last 20+ years Florida State viewership for the Regular Season tv viewership has not fallen below 9th. I would truly enjoy kicking Paul’s A_S!! All I would ask from you my friend is to sit on him after the A_S Kicking, while I put a good shining on that bald uniform head with sand paper!! Doesn’t that sound like B1G or Big XII FUN?!?!! **SEC/ESPN Will be getting home & home series with FSU, starting with Alabama kicking off the 2025 Season in Tallahassee at Doak Campbell Stadium. The 120 days of negotiations began long ago for the ACC/FSU Case & a mediator was sent long ago. All that hidden aka secrets will be open to the public day-1 thanks to the Sunshine Law: The ACC Will settle with Florida State & I believe it will be $250 Million or less & that amount will include the exit fee. Again Circuit Judge John Cooper once me makes Decision/Ruling it carries the full Authority of a State of Florida Court of Appeal. Only the Florida Supreme Court could overturn his ruling. There will be a figure & Clemson & UNC & Miami could use. ESPN seems to have interest in a restructured ACC with OSU & WSU, West Virginia, and a mid country to join School/team to pick up. University of South Florida wants in on this new ACC. Florida State is B1G Bound, that is sound & sealed. A “New Actor” has entered the scene & making some noise & that is Texas A&M. How much faith & validity do I put into that is not great. But, Texas was a done deal & Texas was preparing their speech before, Texas A&M was informed. They’ve been not exactly happy with the SEC ever since. Who is FSU’s +1 ? Every SEC School/Team may Schedule FSU in football in Home & Home Series Out of Conference games with Florida State University moving forward. The FSU-UF Rivalry stays intact as the last regular season. Alabama will be in Tallahassee as 1st game in 2025. Georgia 1st game will be in 2027 Season in Tallahassee. ESPN will get some Florida State games. That is part of the package. 🐴🔥🏹. Hope that makes some sense.
ESPN also knows FSU is LYING to F the ACC in Court... and knows that F-ing the ACC is the SAME as F-ing ESPN. FSU has BURNED that ESPN Bridge that leads to the SEC. So going to the SEC is OUT for FSU. And the B1G will pick up FSU on the CHEAP.
The Big Ten does not hate Florida State
No they don’t.
Disney ESPN hates pretty girls so they probably hate Florida State probably the whole state of Florida.
Florida State won’t be bullied by ESPN
Are you worried that ESPN and the SEC will take your lunch money? 😂
FSU is going to do what is best for them as their legal contracts allow them. They will go SEC in a heartbeat if ESPN can offer the SEC on a quicker timeline. That and to get out of all the lawsuits. I can see ESPN wanting to keep FSU in their stable and there is a simple fix. Re up the ACC contract as is until 2036. Doing so takes any losses FSU and Clemson leaving causes everybody else so there really is not GOR loss to mitigate. For essentially taking the GOR cost away from FSU and Clemson and to stop all legal cost, they go to the SEC. I don't think FSu would go PAC 12 on an offer like that.
Not about bully. About negotiation
@@knumbskullnews3460 Agreed, it's just a negotiation but there are so many FSU people who have this victim mentality, always using terms like dictate and bully. What a bunch of snowflakes.
I think ESPN burned that bridge when they had their loud mouths, talking heads plant seeds to diminish FSU chances for the playoffs but again money talk and ESPN have to really sweating the pot for them to actually join.
I think the irony was lost on Knumbskull that he opened by railing on Finebaum for "knowing jack s-", then spent the next 17 minutes pulling speculative nonsense out of his backside to keep arguing for Clemson and FSU to the SEC.
FSU to the big 10 is speculation. Everything right now is. Everything everyone is saying about realignment is speculation. So what’s the Irony?
@@knumbskullnews3460 But it is NOT ALL speculation. Some of us KNOW things. The Vast Majority of you INCLUDING YOU are Speculating and using INCOMPLETE DATA to do so.
@@knumbskullnews3460 Not really. We had decades of history coming into this realignment. We now have 3 years of actual events and credible reporting. We now have very informed speculation while you just ignore the evidence.
If FSU goes to the SEC it will only because a deal is cut between the ACC, FSU, and ESPN that will allow FSU to go to the SEC without any HOR payout to the ACC. FSU would only pay the Exit fee of 120 million and ESPN may even be willing to assume some of that to keep FSU in a conference ESPN controls the media rights too and the know the Big 12 isn't an option for FSU.
FSU and Clemson are willing to pay. It’s about getting out asap.
ESPN is not a party to the GOR. This story is now 3 years old.
@tarheel7406 No, but they own the media rights and are in a position to renegotiate them beyond 2027, which gives them influence over the ACC in their negotiations with FSU over their GOR. Allowing FSU and Clemson to exit without a GOR payout to go to the SEC in exchange for maintaining current or increased media rights payout beyond 2027 makes them an influential party in the process.
@@garyscott4847 You noted the GOR (sic), which requires a unanimous vote of the ACC members for a release. ESPN is in the position to claim (or not) a breach of the media deal if any member is released from the GOR.
Regardless, the SEC isn't taking just CLEMSON and FSU. They don't have the interest.
He (ESPN) should know Florida State University viewership numbers is higher than any public or private university in the State of Florida & 2nd only to UGA in Georgia for viewership. For the last 20+ years Florida State viewership for the Regular Season tv viewership has not fallen below 9th. I would truly enjoy kicking Paul’s A_S!! All I would ask from you my friend is to sit on him after the A_S Kicking, while I put a good shining on that bald uniform head with sand paper!! Doesn’t that sound like B1G or Big XII FUN?!?!!
**SEC/ESPN Will be getting home & home series with FSU, starting with Alabama kicking off the 2025 Season in Tallahassee at Doak Campbell Stadium. The 120 days of negotiations began long ago for the ACC/FSU Case & a mediator was sent long ago. All that hidden aka secrets will be open to the public day-1 thanks to the Sunshine Law: The ACC Will settle with Florida State & I believe it will be $250 Million or less & that amount will include the exit fee. Again Circuit Judge John Cooper once me makes Decision/Ruling it carries the full Authority of a State of Florida Court of Appeal. Only the Florida Supreme Court could overturn his ruling. There will be a figure & Clemson & UNC & Miami could use. ESPN seems to have interest in a restructured ACC with OSU & WSU, West Virginia, and a mid country to join School/team to pick up. University of South Florida wants in on this new ACC. 🐴🔥🏹
WVU doesn't want in the ACC.
They had their chance.
Let's just hope they can keep BC and Syracuse out of the Big XII.
@@CJWhite-bg3vl LMAO. OK THEN. Say NO when the Offer comes. You won't.
Stay in a Big 12 that is about to lose Utah, Kansas, OK State, TCU, Texas Tech, Arizona and either Colorado or Cincinnati.
@@CJWhite-bg3vl Since Tier 2 football will be fungible, that WVU would favor the already Tier 2 BIG12 over the future Tier 2 ACC proves why WVU would have never been (and will never be) a good fit.
Who's still watching in 2024? Rock On Knumbskull!
I disagree with the term controlled demolition, I see it as a deliberate restructure. The ACC is not going to be demolished but instead it will just go through a reorganization.
My way is more dramatic. Since this is a TH-cam channel that is appropriate
The ACC is managing its decline to the BIG12's Tier 2 level, something neither the BIG12 nor PAC did.
It does seem like the SEC gets what it wants first and then the B10. How much it wants FSU or doesn't want the B10 to obtain them to me is the main question.
The sec has no say over thr BIG TEN. If this turns into a pissing match the sec is toast.
ESPN will dictate this the SEC eats first. Nothing against the Big 10 just reality
@@larrychannell7056 When has the B1G expanded with a school that the SEC then also had material interest?
I don't believe in these colleges education ratings. I heard many professors from Harvard and Yale said they just gave kids A's even if the kid didn't show up for class because the college made them do it and I even seen Oregon and one other college but I would say many do it just gave the kids A's because it's racist not to. Be leaving these college education ratings is been naive and stupid and most of these smart kids in college are not smart because of the college it's because of their parents and former teachers before they got to college, they just recruited them. Has anyone even seen the kids coming out of Harvard yeah I'm would not hiring them to do anything not even to cut my grass. Stay off my lawn Harvard graduates. 😁😂🤣
I would agree that there are lots of educated idiots these days; however, consider who ultimately makes expansion decisions.
Fun Fact ESPN cant afford anything right now as in they don't have the $$$ to spare.
Just nonsense
@@tarheel7406 ESPN lost 20% in profits last year alone dude. The denial of what this continued shrinkage will do to the SEC is unreal.
@@BNSF39 Dude... I've read a ton of contrary claims. Moreover, ESPN doesn't dump Tier 1 content that it's getting for a Tier 2 price.
Did they make everybody in the PAC happy? Everybody is not going to be cool. Seems way cheaper for ESPN to just re up the contract as is and for accepting that contract, release FSU and maybe and maybe not Clemson. Could be cheaper this way and maybe more money for ESPN with an ACC doing the same in the east as the Big 12 in the midwest.
Different situation with the pac
Going into yesterday I was 70/30 FSU to the Bigten. Now with latest murmurs I have switched to 80/20 FSU to the SEC.
However theirs one thing that FSU needs to figure out. The Bigten can offer
A) Letting FSU own it's own state.
B) National brand that travels to LA, Washington to NY and DC.
Those are two things the SEC can't provide.
Would FSU just become another team in the SEC? Give up a whole state?
@@crabcakesandfootball4619 Just shut up
@@CorneilusGreen Nah you shut up
@@crabcakesandfootball4619 Just go be an SEC fan
@@CorneilusGreen Bigten all the way. SEC is afraid of a 9th conference game. SEC gets propped up by ESPN
I’m and FSU fan, and I would much rather us go to the SEC. I think we fit in both culturally and geographically in the SEC. And FSU-Texas, FSU-Bama, FSU-Auburn, sound a lot more interesting than FSU-Ohio State, FSU-Penn State, FSU-Iowa
Hey Knumbskull, I don't agree with some to the majority of your takes but I really like the way you do the podcast.
Thanks
@@knumbskullnews3460 I'm with Art. I often don't agree with Knumbskull but I like his style. He seems like a good dude who would be fun to knock down some beers with.
I'm a Big Ten alum but the plight of the Big 12 resonates with me. I hate all the venom thrown at the Big 12 for simply just trying to survive in this cutthroat college athletics world. I hope the XII get strong enough to become the P3.
By the way, Bob Thompson was the President of Fox Sports and co-founder of the Big Ten Network. He may not be in the room now, but I think there are very few people in the world that would have a better understanding of what the Big Ten wants and I don't think the few people who do know better are sharing their knowledge with us plebeians.
@@slten12
a) There is no longer a feasible path to a peer P3.
b) If BIG12 fans accepted the reality of is relegation down to a new Tier 2, people wouldn't have to push back on their delusions.
Good video, Knumbskull.
Thank you kindly
There’s nothing special about being in the overrated BugTen Conference. Seriously what has this conference done….!
The B1G decided to focus on revenue over competitiveness. As a result, it has kept ahead of everyone else in revenue but has declined to #3 in competitiveness. The SEC is closing the revenue gap and is now #1 in competitiveness. If the B1G can't leverage that revenue advantage during this last major realignment, it will fall to #2 in both for the foreseeable future.
I’m kind of a college football independent. I’d be inclined to watch more FSU games if that band would stop playing that’s idiotic war chant ALL THE TIME! And that tomahawk chop is as irritating as the Florida gator chomp. C’mon folks give it an occasional rest.
Not likely to happen. I hear ya though
Texas Tech & Addidas
So when did the big ten start hating FSU ?
I don’t know
You sound like an ESPN shill
No. ESPN just has the most influence in this situation.
@@knumbskullnews3460 No they don’t
Hey, not fair...Everyone hates Florida State, not just the Big 10. Give the rest of us some credit please.
By the way...you're just 100% wrong about most of your AAU assertions. There is no "in the running" to be in the AAU. And, NO, you can’t just "go get it"...a school must first be nominated by existing members and then must go through an extremely rigorous multi-year evaluation process. If the school “passes” that, then a vote is taken by the existing members. If the school makes it through that, it is then passed on to the executive board for final review. If the school passes review it is then invited to join. This whole process can take up to 3-4 years in most cases. And, its not like “oh we just missed it this year”, the whole process starts over each time…the school must be nominated again and then evaluated again and then voted on again and reviewed again…it is involved and very lengthy. Now, I’m sure if a school is nominated in consecutive years then they can likely breeze through some of the process and it probably would take a bit less time but we’re still talking a minimum of a year or so. And, they don’t just add schools each year or even on a regular basis. They convene once a year and then may or may not have nominations. There are only 71 AAU schools [out of 15,000]. Nebraska lost its AAU membership because they didn’t fund enough research & development over multiple years and were expelled. It will be way harder for them to get invited back into the AAU at this point. Conversely Syracuse withdrew from AAU membership but had consistently maintained their research status and followed established requirements in leaving. They are still in good standing and it would likely be easier for them to be asked back.
I believe I said it’s a process and FSU has been working on it. Besides the Big 10 likely know a few folks who can expedite the process. Let’s don’t act like this thing isn’t political.
FSU is not respected, as evidenced by MIAMI/ND getting unworthy invites instead, the CFP snub, etc. Its scorched earth tactics has not helped.
@@tarheel7406there he is again...boy you have no life following all the fsu podcasts spouting your nonsense. What a loser. Look in the mirror at your program - apathetic fans, terrible tv ratings, bad teams and egos the size of Georgia with zero reason....go out and touch some grass instead of following FSU - we do t care about you guys other than the cronyism and nepotism your school exercised to ruin the ACC...Swafford is your guy and you can't run from it
@@cdray-qy7wp UNC is the/a top expansion target of the SEC and B1G. The buzz now is that FSU is panicking and reaching out to the pitiful BIG12.
FSU pushed for those failed expansions. T-Road opposed. That's one of FSU's failures here, the refusal to accept its responsibilities. The outside sees this on top of the foolish scorched earth tactics. If the SEC/B1G don't go to ~24, it appears that not only did FSU get the CFP snub but will also be relegated down to the Tier 2. A cautionary tale of pride and folly.
It took msu 8 years to get aau after they joined the B1G.
Maybe MSU is slow
They don’t. Clickbait!!
“GO AWAY BAITTIN “!
@@knumbskullnews3460 will do…later.
You must have had a crazy upbringing. You and your brother Tyrus must have given your parents a hand full. But now Tyrus is big on Fox and you big on youtube.
Aren't you in the Lifeboat Conference known as the Big 12?
I don’t think I qualify as big on TH-cam
Finebum will always push espn’s narrative
He adds a good amount of his own jack assery
@@knumbskullnews3460 Are you two related?
Silly as always. The B1G hates FSU no more than it hates TULANE. FSU simply is the 4th (at best) expansion priority for the B1G. Any interest may have been contingent on the higher 3, yet none appear to be available to the B1G.
The B1G would have to make a number of exceptions to historical preferences, and FSU would be a risk on an island on top of all that. The B1G is very likely having to reevaluate its options given that some assumptions have failed.
The whole Clemson to the SEC is rather tiresome. They have a Location Problem (among others) that can't be solved by a few good years. They need to hope the ACC stays together in some form. (One might question FSU's importance as well.) Could the ACC actually survive?
Everything you have assumed has failed thus far
@@knumbskullnews3460 More silliness... I've been largely correct since Day 1.
@@TheOracleOfTH-cam I suspected that CLEMSON was wiser than FSU and allied with UNC for a unified strategy and a coattail to the SEC.
The ACC should survive as a Tier 2.
❤@@tarheel7406Clemson with UNC to SEC and BIG pausing is a dream scenario for Big 12. FSU, Miami, L'ville and one more would be stupid not to seriously consider Big 12, making for a fantastic conference.
Sadly the ACC will either go away or become the newest G5 Conference. The SEC and Big Ten are going to cherry pick the ACC then turn their attention back to the Big 12 and do the same. Then the Big Ten and SEC are going to secede with two 24 team leagues and form their own league. Then the left overs from the ACC, Big 12 along with the MWC, AAC, MAC, Conference USA, Sun Belt will form a 2nd Tier League with their own playoff. Bottom line
Sadly this is big school big conference fan fiction bud.
The BIG12 has already been cherry picked. By your measure, the new BIG12 is already at the G5 level.
@@tarheel7406 are you paid by the ACC or something? The conference did used to be one of the Premier conference, but poor management and the back room deals done to benefit the previous commissioner and his family undid that can you blame Florida State for not wanting to continue unequal revenue sharing?
@@dro2real836 Are you this slow? Stop treating FSU allegations as gospel.
@@tarheel7406 what evidence do you have that it’s not true? And let me also ask you this. Does North Carolina contribute the same amount of revenue sharing as Florida State does North Carolina generate the same amount of revenue as Florida state and if you feel like they do, please inform me where I can obtain this information so that I can be properly informed lol. because I’m pretty sure when it comes to viewership revenue production, and several other factors, Florida State and Clemson has been the ACC official cash cows for quite some time now.
Adding FSU and clemson to SEC cost:
$5 pay increase × 16= $80m per yr
$65m FSU
$65m clemson
That cost ESPN $210 per year just for adding two schools....aint happening.
F ESPN
Increase in advertising revenue with premium matchups makes it worth it.
@@knumbskullnews3460take a step back...youre married to this premium matchup idea. Its not that valuable. The GOR is far more valuable. But whatever...we might see soon enough.
@@knumbskullnews3460 Spotted the below figures lurking the USCAR message board:
From Nielsen: ACC Leaders in Media Exposure Value (Last 3 Years)
1. Duke men’s basketball ($995.0M)
2. UNC men’s basketball ($892.5M)
3. FSU football ($795.2M)
4. Clemson football ($677.1M)
@@knumbskullnews3460 take a step back bro...youre married to this idea of premium matchups. Theyre not that valueable. The GOR is much more valueable.
B1G recent expansion gives us the answer, an academic school to keep the presidents happy + a football school to make the networks happy.
Notre Dame + literally anyone is the exception otherwise some combo of:
Academic: UNC, Stanford, GT
TV: FSU, Clemson, Miami (if no FSU)
Maybe. I still don’t believe Big 10 goes passed 20 teams. Therefore…
FSU needs to get over themselves. The victim card only plays out for so long.
They're War Cryin. The Everglades isn't a river, it's FSU fans tears.
@@metallica1fan1 exactly!
People hating FSU because they’re jealous! If not then they wouldn’t talk about FSU!
@@ScottyDuke-kc7uc, no, we're laughing at you. Y'all are still cryin about not getting in the Playoffs, but then choose to ignore the embarrassing 63-3 loss, while still believing the delusion that you would have won the National Championship.
It’s a narrative for court
Big 10 dont braindead finebaum dont know nothing and dont know what he talking about he needs to follow his sec teams and keep kissing sec butt and espn teams
He (ESPN) should know Florida State University viewership numbers is higher than any public or private university in the State of Florida & 2nd only to UGA in Georgia for viewership. For the last 20+ years Florida State viewership for the Regular Season tv viewership has not fallen below 9th. I would truly enjoy kicking Paul’s A_S!! All I would ask from you my friend is to sit on him after the A_S Kicking, while I put a good shining on that bald uniform head with sand paper!! Doesn’t that sound like B1G or Big XII FUN?!?!!
**SEC/ESPN Will be getting home & home series with FSU, starting with Alabama kicking off the 2025 Season in Tallahassee at Doak Campbell Stadium. The 120 days of negotiations began long ago for the ACC/FSU Case & a mediator was sent long ago. All that hidden aka secrets will be open to the public day-1 thanks to the Sunshine Law: The ACC Will settle with Florida State & I believe it will be $250 Million or less & that amount will include the exit fee. Again Circuit Judge John Cooper once me makes Decision/Ruling it carries the full Authority of a State of Florida Court of Appeal. Only the Florida Supreme Court could overturn his ruling. There will be a figure & Clemson & UNC & Miami could use. ESPN seems to have interest in a restructured ACC with OSU & WSU, West Virginia, and a mid country to join School/team to pick up. University of South Florida wants in on this new ACC. Florida State is B1G Bound, that is sound & sealed. A “New Actor” has entered the scene & making some noise & that is Texas A&M. How much faith & validity do I put into that is not great. But, Texas was a done deal & Texas was preparing their speech before, Texas A&M was informed. They’ve been not exactly happy with the SEC ever since. Who is FSU’s +1 ? Every SEC School/Team may Schedule FSU in football in Home & Home Series Out of Conference games with Florida State University moving forward. The FSU-UF Rivalry stays intact as the last regular season. Alabama will be in Tallahassee as 1st game in 2025. Georgia 1st game will be in 2027 Season in Tallahassee. ESPN will get some Florida State games. That is part of the package. 🐴🔥🏹. Hope that makes some sense.
Not really but thanks for the comment
ESPN also knows FSU is LYING to F the ACC in Court... and knows that F-ing the ACC is the SAME as F-ing ESPN.
FSU has BURNED that ESPN Bridge that leads to the SEC. So going to the SEC is OUT for FSU. And the B1G will pick up FSU on the CHEAP.
@@MercerKnowsBall One doesn't lie to the court. One makes straight faced arguments limited to how far one can stretch.