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Maestro!!! Soy un principiante en jiu jitsu! Soy cinturón negro en otra disciplina, x muchos años perdí el interés y credibilidad de las artes marciales tradicionales y deje de creer en maestros orientales !!! Pero USTED MAESTRO !!!tiene conocimientos que dan ganas de aprender sus técnicas!!ojala tuviera usted un dojo en Argentina!!!!
I count myself lucky that my Judo Club focuses on the newaza game as much as tachi waza. It also doesn't hurt getting those bjj guys and gala coming through to train during open mats. This video is amazing.
And this is why BJJ could be called Gracie Newaza or Brazilian Newaza. Not jiujitsu. All BJJ is a heavy accent to Newaza and it is wrong that most BJJ gyms do not mention their origins, and do not credit Judo's Newaza as the actual source.
The truth. In fact Maeda was Jigoro Kano's protege in New waza. Those were the techniques used when fighting dojos from other styles. Maeda was forbidden to use the term Judo because Master Kano wanted it held to a higher standard and not be known by brawling. When he went to Brazil he used the term Ju-Jitsu.
+LeonKrajin Shut the fuck up about the semantics. It's a false notion that BJJ was developed exclusively by Judo's newaza. The Brazilians were taught both stand up and ground but over time they gravitated towards ground fighting since it was the best place to fight under certain circumstances. Just because you see an extended view of Judo, or another grappling art for that matter, for ground work, it doesn't make it the same as BJJ. A good example is the comprehensiveness. BJJ has a whole world of half guards while all Kosen shows are getting out of the stalling position of half guard. You really need to get on with the times. BJJ has branched off from Judo pretty far by now.
And still I can show you pictures and footages of Kosen judokas using *De la Riva, butterfly, spider guards etc before it was even a thing in BJJ* . 99% of what I have seen in BJJ I have seen it before in judo, it's just that its evolution as an olympic sport killed most of it in common practice (mostly outside Japan). *Even gogoplata, bodylock, lockdown, summersault guard pass and so forth can be seen in a 1950's footage of Oda senseï on TH-cam* . I mean no disrespect saying it: people just think they reinvented the wheel.
+Chris Chiang To be fair jiu jitsu is a old common misspelling in the West (just have a look at 1900's newspapers). And even nowadays in big Judo federations like in France, they officially say "jujitsu" ("i" being pronounced as the "e" in English).
Had the privilege of training with him when he came to host a workshop in Hong Kong years ago. A truly great technician. What saddened me is you never got to see good newaza like this anymore in judo because of the stupid new rules they have, he would be stood up in seconds in the world championship when he tried to free his legs
My ne waza is rubbish compared to my standing forms. This will surely help me with my training. Many thanks for this video. Good judo is having good ne waza for sure.
@@yevgeniyzharinov7473 OK, why they didn't just say hello we would like to acknowledge the world about kosen judo.... Why did they say that They developed Japanese jiu-jitsu To match ground combat🤔🤔🤔🤔💭💭💭.
Kosen Judo is just a rule set created well after BJJ. BJJ and Kosen focus on Newaza Judo. Judo in the early 1900s had far fewer rules and Newaza played a larger role in the art. Judo even allowed wrist locks. That form of Judo made it to Brazil in the early 1900s and was preserved by the Gracies and others in Brazil, and the openness of their approach allowed for innovations to take place. In Japan, the more formal training environment stifled innovation and the lack of competition under free newaza rulesets led to old style newaza Judo/Jujitsu slowly dying out. Had it not been for the Gracies not following the Kodokan and the changes in rulesets, much of that old art would have died out. Instead, they made it global by focusing on applying it to Vale Tudo, and then making Vale Tudo global with the creation of the UFC . Helios and his sons also reintroduced/reinvented street fighting applications that the Kodokan may have overlooked from older Jujutsu. Maeda would have set them on that path being a prize fighter. Catch wrestling would have also been a part of the fusion. BJJ is still 90% Newaza with continued innovations for loser rulesets as well as infusions from catch wrestling.
@@yevgeniyzharinov7473 evidently not since no one has done that in any grappling tournament ive come across, abd ive seen what has to be 85 or so % of the grappling videos on youtube where there's some pants to grab on to. People fight it out instead of just doing what this guy did.
Can anyone better explain getting the cross arm lock from the mounted buck? I saw it and it was too fast and fluid and I don't know a lick of japanese. What side was the under hook on?
superbe YOKO TOMOE NAGE et un travail au sol magnifique que l'on ne peut malheureusement plus effectuer , car l'arbitrage a évolué pour cause de spectacle. Aujourd'hui l'arbitre dit MATTE avant la sortie de jambe
+Alkhazred1 bonjour si vous pratiquez un judo traditionnel pour votre développement personnel, le judo traditionnel est fait de faite Playing et de politesse, respect de l'autre etc. Ce qui ne transpire pas dans votre commentaire ou vous employez un langage quelque peu éloigné de l'idéal du judo. A.V professeur de judo, CN 4eme Dan. Cordialement
+Alkhazred1 merci pour votre reponse. Les ramasse mentes de jambes ont été supprimé ( pour le moment) car les russes ont apportés les techniques du Sambo et le judo ressemblait de plus en plus A de la lutte ce qui devenait difficile vis à vis du sport olympique d'ailleurs la lutte a été supprimée des jeux. Et le judo est redevenu le judo avec de beaux mouvements techniques. Dans les techniques notamment le nage no Kata Kata guruma est toujours présent. Lors des passages de grades techniques on peut tout faire comme ikomi gaeshi etc. Bonne pratique.
In my opinion both judo and bjj newaza style are great. Bjj for the fluid transitions and positional control and innovative guards. Judo for the direct and more simple modes modes of attack without the 10 steps it usually takes in a bjj sequence and also the top game and especially attacking the turtle. Judo attacks th
Humperdoo yes they do. Im talking about more inovations per the guards. The judo guard work is much less advanced. And i dont mean it insiltingly. The judo turtle work is more advanced than bjj. Its just that bjj has literally spent the last 80 years working very sophisticated ( sometimes overly sophisticated where it becomes too hard to learn in a timely manner)
Humperdoo yes the inovations that de la riva or in more recent times keenan cornelius. Ive never seen intricate guard work like that in judo. I dont personally know the specific names of the techniques but no judo guys have guards like that. If they dod theyd make it visible to the world.
The Dela Riva Guard that is claimed by Dela Riva to be invented by himin the 1980s is a Judo Technique and is the 2nd most used guard in Kosen Judo in Japan. Would you like to see there tournaments from the 1960-2017? haha www.bjjee.com/articles/modern-bjj-guards-used-kosen-judo-tournaments-1952/ Anything else I can correct you on?
a053303 take out that sometimes and you got a true statement! :p nah jk.. Some ippons are awesome! I feel like the judo rules really need to go back to the way they were.. Ippon was damn near impossible. I feel like jiujitsu rules are more closely related to the way the old judo rules were. If only in bjj tourneys they allowed the idea that if a throw is tough enough (not very easy by aaaany means) the match would end. The idea of ippon was neant to be debilitating. With a mat in place, a throw will never be debilitating.. Which is fine.. But we cant forget where martial arts comes from. Whuch is why i think it should be a thing.
I'm sick of Judo & BJJ rivalry. They're both so bad ass and similar in a lot of ways. There are very few pros vs cons in comparison and even so they're all subjective. There will never be an indicator of which is better, because everyone is different as is ever circumstance. I train specifically in Kodokan and I love learning from BJJ, even though I'm restricted in tournaments. Both have some really cool ground techniques.
just call bjj and judo different sports... im a judo guy, but i do plenty of both tournaments... i do a lot of groundwork.. waaaay too much to ever be competitive in sport judo... heck, at my judo school i wear jiujitsu gi's, not the ones with lots of patches, but i like them because the way they fit... i feel like the sport doesnt matter, cant we just roll? thats what i care about.. my two cents..
They are basically the same but with different rules. That's it. Helio said he was a judo guy on an interview to a newspaper here in Brasil. So, no reason for this rivalry. Cheers.
BJJ is 80/90% old Newaza Judo. It’s just that it has been neglected in Japan due to the changes in popular rulesets. Thank God it got preserved in Brazil
@@marcuspiscaer4120 Neglected in Japan? Shichitei Judo formerly known as Kosen Judo is widely pracised in Japan non-stop from 1890s-2022 and also the main style taught to Tokyo police. Look up "red dragon dairy kosen judo" on youtube search. You'll be amazed at how much it is preserved in japan....lol
you never see this moves anymore in judo. You go to any judo place with a wrestling or bjj background and you are tapping BLACK belts left and right. The only place for real judo is in MMA gyms or BJJ schools cause all the moves taught in this video are only taught there and not in judo schools with there no leg grabs and stuff. Just a matter of time before UFC champs and BJJ black belts medal in judo. Its grappling in easy mode. No lie bro I read this all the time on the forums.
Had the privilege of training with him when he came to host a workshop in Hong Kong years ago. A truly great technician. What saddened me is you never got to see good newaza like this anymore in judo because of the stupid new rules they have, he would be stood up in seconds in the world championship when he tried to free his legs
if sport judo would go back to this id be such a happy camper!
Just join a jiu jitsu and academy and use your imagination and there you go! all you have to do is pretend its judo
In the club where I train we have dedicated two sessions for ne-waza only. Good ne-waza is good judo.
Maestro!!! Soy un principiante en jiu jitsu! Soy cinturón negro en otra disciplina, x muchos años perdí el interés y credibilidad de las artes marciales tradicionales y deje de creer en maestros orientales !!! Pero USTED MAESTRO !!!tiene conocimientos que dan ganas de aprender sus técnicas!!ojala tuviera usted un dojo en Argentina!!!!
Dear Sensei Kashiwazaki, Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Respectfully, Tamas Toth student under Shinjiro Sasaki.
I count myself lucky that my Judo Club focuses on the newaza game as much as tachi waza. It also doesn't hurt getting those bjj guys and gala coming through to train during open mats. This video is amazing.
And this is why BJJ could be called Gracie Newaza or Brazilian Newaza. Not jiujitsu. All BJJ is a heavy accent to Newaza and it is wrong that most BJJ gyms do not mention their origins, and do not credit Judo's Newaza as the actual source.
The truth. In fact Maeda was Jigoro Kano's protege in New waza. Those were the techniques used when fighting dojos from other styles. Maeda was forbidden to use the term Judo because Master Kano wanted it held to a higher standard and not be known by brawling. When he went to Brazil he used the term Ju-Jitsu.
+LeonKrajin Shut the fuck up about the semantics. It's a false notion that BJJ was developed exclusively by Judo's newaza. The Brazilians were taught both stand up and ground but over time they gravitated towards ground fighting since it was the best place to fight under certain circumstances. Just because you see an extended view of Judo, or another grappling art for that matter, for ground work, it doesn't make it the same as BJJ. A good example is the comprehensiveness. BJJ has a whole world of half guards while all Kosen shows are getting out of the stalling position of half guard. You really need to get on with the times. BJJ has branched off from Judo pretty far by now.
And still I can show you pictures and footages of Kosen judokas using *De la Riva, butterfly, spider guards etc before it was even a thing in BJJ* . 99% of what I have seen in BJJ I have seen it before in judo, it's just that its evolution as an olympic sport killed most of it in common practice (mostly outside Japan). *Even gogoplata, bodylock, lockdown, summersault guard pass and so forth can be seen in a 1950's footage of Oda senseï on TH-cam* .
I mean no disrespect saying it: people just think they reinvented the wheel.
Even the Gracie pronounced it wrongly it should be Jujutsu not Jiu-jitsu
+Chris Chiang To be fair jiu jitsu is a old common misspelling in the West (just have a look at 1900's newspapers). And even nowadays in big Judo federations like in France, they officially say "jujitsu" ("i" being pronounced as the "e" in English).
Perfeito. Uma das melhores fontes de estudos de Ne Waza. Sensei Katsuhiko é um mestre do ne Waza.
Levi Alves Jiu-jitsu Sensei se chama pelo sobrenome.
Had the privilege of training with him when he came to host a workshop in Hong Kong years ago. A truly great technician. What saddened me is you never got to see good newaza like this anymore in judo because of the stupid new rules they have, he would be stood up in seconds in the world championship when he tried to free his legs
Unbelievable Newaza here. Some high principles at work vs techniques. Awesome to watch.
WOW LINDA VICTORIA CON TECNICA NEWUHASHA.RECORDE KAMICHIRO KATAMI.YOKOHOCHIRO KATAMI.TECNICAS K SE APLICAN MUY POCO PERO MUY IMPORTANTES.
This is such a treasure trove of knowledge.
GENIUS!!!
¡¡¡ Esto es ORO PURO !!!
thanks for share !!
59:34 Open guard, attempted guard pass, counter, sweep, mount, straight armbar. Efficient and effortless.
Un grand merci, toujours aussi instructif à revoir ...
I learnt a lot from it. Thanks for the upload!
Many thanks for sharing this video. This is a Treasure to have and be able to watch. I just wished it would have been subbed to English
thank you !!!! this was awesome
what a great guy! Bravo and thanks for lessons
The essence of newaza!
Thank you!
Great video thx!
Awesome.
thanks!! Ne Waza Judo at its BESTT!!!!
muito bom mestre,oss.
amazing. thanks for share this video ;)
excelente ferramenta
I like so this video...Judo as much...
My ne waza is rubbish compared to my standing forms. This will surely help me with my training. Many thanks for this video. Good judo is having good ne waza for sure.
classic!!!
I want this judo back :(
It exists. just walk into any Gracie academy.
@@yevgeniyzharinov7473 so bjj is stolen from kosen judo, and Garcia family claims that they create it.
@@matarahmadal_atif9359 ok. I suppose. They don't claim they create it. On the contrary, they acknowledge that it was brought to them from Japan.
@@yevgeniyzharinov7473 OK, why they didn't just say hello we would like to acknowledge the world about kosen judo.... Why did they say that They developed Japanese jiu-jitsu To match ground combat🤔🤔🤔🤔💭💭💭.
Kosen Judo is just a rule set created well after BJJ. BJJ and Kosen focus on Newaza Judo. Judo in the early 1900s had far fewer rules and Newaza played a larger role in the art. Judo even allowed wrist locks. That form of Judo made it to Brazil in the early 1900s and was preserved by the Gracies and others in Brazil, and the openness of their approach allowed for innovations to take place. In Japan, the more formal training environment stifled innovation and the lack of competition under free newaza rulesets led to old style newaza Judo/Jujitsu slowly dying out. Had it not been for the Gracies not following the Kodokan and the changes in rulesets, much of that old art would have died out. Instead, they made it global by focusing on applying it to Vale Tudo, and then making Vale Tudo global with the creation of the UFC . Helios and his sons also reintroduced/reinvented street fighting applications that the Kodokan may have overlooked from older Jujutsu. Maeda would have set them on that path being a prize fighter. Catch wrestling would have also been a part of the fusion. BJJ is still 90% Newaza with continued innovations for loser rulesets as well as infusions from catch wrestling.
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What the hell. That's not possible. Why didn't anyone else think of something so simple?! You gotta be kiddin.
+TENNSUMITSUMA Art is where you find it. I gotta use this move now.
its kinda common sense.
@@yevgeniyzharinov7473 evidently not since no one has done that in any grappling tournament ive come across, abd ive seen what has to be 85 or so % of the grappling videos on youtube where there's some pants to grab on to. People fight it out instead of just doing what this guy did.
ottimo
EPIC INTRO!!!!
Show 🥋🥋
This is Newaza De Katsu isn´t it? Kashiwazaki is great teacher and this is great video. Thanks alot for this upload. Good oldschool judo newaza.
Oss
muito bom
By any chance is there an English translation ( voice over ) or sub titles for this? This looks fantastic! Thanks for posting.
Hero ¡
Please we need English subtitle
nice!
Actually, I think it's great. :)
le judo c'est un art
Can anyone better explain getting the cross arm lock from the mounted buck? I saw it and it was too fast and fluid and I don't know a lick of japanese. What side was the under hook on?
What happened? There's a new judo in town?
superbe YOKO TOMOE NAGE et un travail au sol magnifique que l'on ne peut malheureusement plus effectuer , car l'arbitrage a évolué pour cause de spectacle. Aujourd'hui l'arbitre dit MATTE avant la sortie de jambe
+Alkhazred1 bonjour si vous pratiquez un judo traditionnel pour votre développement personnel, le judo traditionnel est fait de faite Playing et de politesse, respect de l'autre etc. Ce qui ne transpire pas dans votre commentaire ou vous employez un langage quelque peu éloigné de l'idéal du judo. A.V professeur de judo, CN 4eme Dan. Cordialement
+Alkhazred1 merci pour votre reponse. Les ramasse mentes de jambes ont été supprimé ( pour le moment) car les russes ont apportés les techniques du Sambo et le judo ressemblait de plus en plus A de la lutte ce qui devenait difficile vis à vis du sport olympique d'ailleurs la lutte a été supprimée des jeux. Et le judo est redevenu le judo avec de beaux mouvements techniques. Dans les techniques notamment le nage no Kata Kata guruma est toujours présent. Lors des passages de grades techniques on peut tout faire comme ikomi gaeshi etc. Bonne pratique.
Matenrichter am anfang war Günter Lind, bei dem ich auch mal trainiert habe in Saarbrücken.
someone translate this please and put subtitles. thanks
gostei
Could someone do a solid and translate this for English captions??? Pretty please?
me no tachiwaza no newaza kashiwazi ooo koshi otoshi tai chi waza
Domo Arigato Do sei mas Sensei
goddamn, i say goddamn!!!!!!!!!
hey baby girl
I really want a translated version.
i don't understand japanee but i can still grasp his teachings.
Do you know the name of the original VHS/DVD?
If it only had subtitles...
who can i download this movie?
Salam ..to download any movies from youtube www.keepvid.com "you must have the last java""
Filali Mohamed
mamanon
In my opinion both judo and bjj newaza style are great. Bjj for the fluid transitions and positional control and innovative guards. Judo for the direct and more simple modes modes of attack without the 10 steps it usually takes in a bjj sequence and also the top game and especially attacking the turtle. Judo attacks th
but they both use the same guards though. lol
Humperdoo yes they do. Im talking about more inovations per the guards. The judo guard work is much less advanced. And i dont mean it insiltingly. The judo turtle work is more advanced than bjj. Its just that bjj has literally spent the last 80 years working very sophisticated ( sometimes overly sophisticated where it becomes too hard to learn in a timely manner)
Whats wrong? Cant name a technique or guard that isnt already in Judo? =D
Humperdoo yes the inovations that de la riva or in more recent times keenan cornelius. Ive never seen intricate guard work like that in judo. I dont personally know the specific names of the techniques but no judo guys have guards like that. If they dod theyd make it visible to the world.
The Dela Riva Guard that is claimed by Dela Riva to be invented by himin the 1980s is a Judo Technique and is the 2nd most used guard in Kosen Judo in Japan.
Would you like to see there tournaments from the 1960-2017? haha
www.bjjee.com/articles/modern-bjj-guards-used-kosen-judo-tournaments-1952/
Anything else I can correct you on?
too bad you see so little of ne waza in judo competition... as soon as it hits the ground the ref stops it and goes back to standup
this is why i train at a judo school, but do all tournaments i can find :) sport judo is sort of....... meh these days.
meh it certainly is hahaha (sometimes)
a053303 take out that sometimes and you got a true statement! :p nah jk.. Some ippons are awesome! I feel like the judo rules really need to go back to the way they were.. Ippon was damn near impossible. I feel like jiujitsu rules are more closely related to the way the old judo rules were. If only in bjj tourneys they allowed the idea that if a throw is tough enough (not very easy by aaaany means) the match would end. The idea of ippon was neant to be debilitating. With a mat in place, a throw will never be debilitating.. Which is fine.. But we cant forget where martial arts comes from. Whuch is why i think it should be a thing.
+dave klier man, if u throw the guy in BJJ and he cannot continues, the fight ends :)
i've seen fights end in throws, so...
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I'm sick of Judo & BJJ rivalry. They're both so bad ass and similar in a lot of ways. There are very few pros vs cons in comparison and even so they're all subjective. There will never be an indicator of which is better, because everyone is different as is ever circumstance. I train specifically in Kodokan and I love learning from BJJ, even though I'm restricted in tournaments. Both have some really cool ground techniques.
just call bjj and judo different sports... im a judo guy, but i do plenty of both tournaments... i do a lot of groundwork.. waaaay too much to ever be competitive in sport judo... heck, at my judo school i wear jiujitsu gi's, not the ones with lots of patches, but i like them because the way they fit... i feel like the sport doesnt matter, cant we just roll? thats what i care about.. my two cents..
They are basically the same but with different rules. That's it. Helio said he was a judo guy on an interview to a newspaper here in Brasil. So, no reason for this rivalry. Cheers.
BJJ is 80/90% old Newaza Judo. It’s just that it has been neglected in Japan due to the changes in popular rulesets. Thank God it got preserved in Brazil
@@marcuspiscaer4120 Neglected in Japan? Shichitei Judo formerly known as Kosen Judo is widely pracised in Japan non-stop from 1890s-2022 and also the main style taught to Tokyo police. Look up "red dragon dairy kosen judo" on youtube search. You'll be amazed at how much it is preserved in japan....lol
@@marcuspiscaer4120 th-cam.com/video/xwhXVkeSj-0/w-d-xo.html
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aligato
You have to admit, the music at the beginning is dreadful :D
He is teaching Gracie Jiu Jitsu.
Nice try :D
@@BobSaint The techniques are the same.
@@yevgeniyzharinov7473 Yeah, as I said - nice try. No one fell for it yet, and neither will I. :D
you never see this moves anymore in judo. You go to any judo place with a wrestling or bjj background and you are tapping BLACK belts left and right. The only place for real judo is in MMA gyms or BJJ schools cause all the moves taught in this video are only taught there and not in judo schools with there no leg grabs and stuff. Just a matter of time before UFC champs and BJJ black belts medal in judo. Its grappling in easy mode. No lie bro I read this all the time on the forums.
Because stupid International Judo Federation kept on changing Judo rules so untrained people can win.
lol, you need to visit more dojos, go out of of your region/country. Your comment reveals complete inexeperience on the subject.
America doesn't have a good judo. I dare you to go to train at the Kodakan. You'll get your ass kicked for sure.
Some moves are just not practical and can be counted back easily...more for scoring points than a real street fight.
No shit buddy, its sport grappling for Judo tournaments. haha
Had the privilege of training with him when he came to host a workshop in Hong Kong years ago. A truly great technician. What saddened me is you never got to see good newaza like this anymore in judo because of the stupid new rules they have, he would be stood up in seconds in the world championship when he tried to free his legs
Modern Judo is lame. Old school judo is awesome. IBJJF bjj is lame as shit too.
@@noahariola-tirella3559 IBJJF because of heel hook and knee reaping bans?