BABY LED WEANING: INTRODUCING A SPOON & FORK

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  • @ACupOfChats
    @ACupOfChats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It was so cute seeing baby Mia cry when you take the spoon and stop when you give it

    • @samhainlegge9563
      @samhainlegge9563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And then right back into her mouth it went XD

  • @kimm99Y
    @kimm99Y 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I can’t get over how cute and adorable both your girls are! 💖

  • @andreac658
    @andreac658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Would you be able to do a video on baby sign language? I’ve read up about it but hearing someone talk about their actual experience would be great! 😃

  • @DanceePinkston
    @DanceePinkston 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I waited with Landree to table feed until 6 months. That silver wear was adorable! I had a few tricks shared with me but other than that just used instincts! Landree is such a good and wide eater! BLW works you guys!! Listen to this smart lady!

  • @misskaba4792
    @misskaba4792 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like you are the best friend every moon need. Thanks

  • @Heelsandholster
    @Heelsandholster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How cute is she with that mixer!!

  • @kumapandax8729
    @kumapandax8729 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! I appreciate this video so much in seeing your baby try a spoon for the first time. I've been really stressed about introducing a spoon to my baby and I've been looking for a video where they show how the first time looks like. Thank you for explaining it too! 😭 You've saved a first time mama from stress! Thank you 🥹❤

  • @valeriaznamenskaya
    @valeriaznamenskaya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much for these useful videos, have watched almost 30 of them now and slowly trying to introduce the Montessori method with my baby girl(12 month), I wish i found your channel earlier, but as they they better late than never). Thanks again for your hard work!

  • @naanise7523
    @naanise7523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dear Ashley, could you please make a Video (or probably Videos) about the signs that you are about to introduce to your child (like the 'more'-sign)? That would bei awesome! Best Anna

  • @DanceePinkston
    @DanceePinkston 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was so cute that you predicted she would get mad at you! Oh my gosh that K flash back! 😍

  • @neekimoatazedi9972
    @neekimoatazedi9972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for posting this, your baby is so cute, I appreciate the advice I felt so overwhelmed at first and now I know it's ok to give my LO the spoon.

  • @ominsharma7834
    @ominsharma7834 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sending blessings n love for both the cute kids❤️💓

  • @hayleymar
    @hayleymar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My baby is just about a month younger than Mia so these videos are very perfectly timed for us

  • @cinland86
    @cinland86 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so so helpful thanks so much Ashley! You are the best!

  • @jessaleeb198
    @jessaleeb198 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Way to go Mia🎉🥄 She did such a great job❤

  • @esthersalcove2650
    @esthersalcove2650 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how you use sign language with your babies.

  • @anarchist_parable
    @anarchist_parable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Due with my first in two weeks and I can't stop freebasing these videos

  • @Lily_and_River
    @Lily_and_River 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how using cutlery with BLW is so different from the mainstream way of shoving it in their mouth and trying to get the food in. The latter is almost like force feeding to me. Also loved how she was already more patient the second time you had to reload the spoon and how she seemed to understand your signing! She did very well for her first time. Babies are such great learners!

  • @lauraforde3526
    @lauraforde3526 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your children are so beautiful :) thank you so much for sharing such incredible information. I have twins, who have just started BLW and your video's are so very useful. Massive thank you

  • @madcadd54no74
    @madcadd54no74 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love these videos! They make me excited to have kids lol

  • @maedchenausmars
    @maedchenausmars 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it is so cool how well they can do these things early on but not sure I have the patience for the mess during the learning curve. I am definitely late to give silverware to my kids because messes give me anxiety!
    Excited for next week’s video. My 12 month old has been pretty regularly having total tantrums if he doesn’t get one of his favorite foods. Screeches, hits, throws until there’s nothing in front of him. We put a few pieces of food directly on the table/tray in front of him so there’s not a lot for him to fling.

  • @brittanyottens7760
    @brittanyottens7760 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We had a lot of success with this today! Thank you for your amazing contributions -- your channel has been an ESSENTIAL resource as a first-time mom for SO many things!

  • @livingartlovinglife
    @livingartlovinglife 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for covering this topic!

  • @indigokind9152
    @indigokind9152 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Ashley. I’m obsessed with your videos. I’m a new subscriber. I found your Chanel while looking up baby led weaning. I have 3 kids 12, 10 and 4 months. My second and youngest have a huge age difference so it’s like I’m learning all over again . Your videos are so helpful ❣️🙏🏽

  • @vickisimkovic7971
    @vickisimkovic7971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your babies are SO cute and videos are phenomenal! Thank you for this information, it has been so helpful as a first time mom. I also found it interesting how she is playing with ordinary objects found in the kitchen in the background.

  • @haleyandrews2890
    @haleyandrews2890 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are so helpful! Thanks so much for all these BLW videos!

  • @penny3579
    @penny3579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are so incredibly helpful and detailed. Thank you so so much ☺️

  • @blessedmum6251
    @blessedmum6251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    she is soooo adorable.... great video!!

  • @cindygreenwood4782
    @cindygreenwood4782 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m from the old school. I enjoyed feeding my baby. I did give them small pieces of food on their tray after I fed them. I don’t think they get enough to eat when they feed themselves. Everybody wants their babies to learn things before everybody else. Slow down and enjoy baby without trying to make them grow up too fast.

  • @missyboo2756
    @missyboo2756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quality as usual! 10/10 best youtube family

  • @jenweatherwax7113
    @jenweatherwax7113 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sticky oatmeal is such a good idea! My baby struggles to spoon feed her purées, I’m going to try this instead

  • @vanessalynneandres
    @vanessalynneandres 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a helpful video. Thank you!

  • @bubuandjoyce
    @bubuandjoyce 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your video!!! Very helpful tips!!!

  • @gabihuggins5042
    @gabihuggins5042 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you be able to do a video on behavior outside the home? Specifically how to keep a toddler from running into the street?

  • @CR-rk1lw
    @CR-rk1lw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will you please do the clip how to start using fork? Pls pls

  • @mightybfool
    @mightybfool 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aaaaah I can’t wait for my little one to come

  • @ermosisima1
    @ermosisima1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So cuuute! I just started to feed my baby. What brand of oats did you use? Ty!!

  • @lizben3463
    @lizben3463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this ❤ my daughter is turning 1 soon and we've been trying with plastic cutlery for ages without too much success. Especially the fork has been a disaster so far because she can't pierce any food with the plastic one. We'll be ordering a metal set now :)

  • @MsEileen1020
    @MsEileen1020 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. I love your videos. Can you share your weekly food schedule and meal ideas.

  • @ashleyirizarry-diaz6415
    @ashleyirizarry-diaz6415 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    She did so great!

  • @EmilieClare09
    @EmilieClare09 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! My Bub is 9months but isn’t too keen on feeding herself!

  • @acceptallcookies8449
    @acceptallcookies8449 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video, as always!
    A quick question - what would you recommend for a one-year-old who knows how to eat with a spoon (and has done so in the past) but now prefers to use her hands instead? Should I remove the bowl temporarily and hand her preloaded spoonfuls as you do in the beginning?
    Thanks!

    • @fuzzfriendly
      @fuzzfriendly 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1

    • @kateg9437
      @kateg9437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't tried it, but you could try giving her more liquid foods, such as soup. That wont work if she just decides to drink from the bowl, but might help. You could also just keep handing her the fork to use herself

  • @ajarnt9050
    @ajarnt9050 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    FTM with twins here. They're a few weeks younger than Mia. I came across one of your videos a few weeks while looking for info on baby led weaning. Thank you for letting us follow your journey! My girls have had several foods now and used spoons for the first time yesterday. It was a mess but they love trying the new foods. Just curious- When do you add plates and napkins? Thanks again!

  • @anastasiaputilina9611
    @anastasiaputilina9611 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi so how to teach them to actually scoop the food? x

    • @fuzzfriendly
      @fuzzfriendly 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1

    • @kateg9437
      @kateg9437 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Practice. If they see others eating with a spoon, they will try to copy. Also lots of similar toy activities, such as sand and spade, or a scoop and plastic balls (or rice krispies or similar with young children who might try to swallow)

  • @andreatarka1203
    @andreatarka1203 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh my goodness, the cuteness!

  • @orrac1e
    @orrac1e 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for this!! My daughter is Mia’s age and this is my first child so I’m following along closely!! She *always* cries like Mia did when her spoon was taken away or she gets frustrated that food isn’t going in her belly fast enough. It happens multiple times a meal and sometimes turns into a meltdown. Do you have any tips on tackling this?

    • @NOPETPETGG
      @NOPETPETGG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Orracle C my son is 8 months also get frustrated when I take away the spoon to preload food. So I prepare two spoons and “trade” it with him! It worked for me!

    • @orrac1e
      @orrac1e 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      S L Great idea, thanks!! It’s good to know we’re not alone on this

  • @blueskyandtrees
    @blueskyandtrees 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super cute baby!

  • @evelynda5235
    @evelynda5235 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was too scared to do full baby led weaning. But i did start with a spoon at 6 months and he grabbed it and put it in his mouth on his own right away. Never had to put the spoon in his mouth myself.

  • @lutfiag6373
    @lutfiag6373 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t wait for the next episode.

  • @mozelac
    @mozelac 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am SO glad this was in my reccomended before I bought cutlery for BLW

  • @saracastilla123
    @saracastilla123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I love your videos. Do you have a video or ay recommendations of introducing a spoon/fork to a 14 month old that already does the spoon exchange but needs practice scooping up? We did baby led weaning with our 14 mo and when I tried introducing the spoon to hold and scoop, she just holds the spoon and scoops with her hand. Im not super consistent though.

  • @soamyaagrawal4134
    @soamyaagrawal4134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Ashley, I love your videos. I am in need of help. My son who is 16 months old, just does want to eat food after taking few bites. He gets distracted and wants to move out of high chair. Even on high chair he needs to be reminded to pick up food or spoon. Can you suggest me ways to tackle this.

  • @mamerakilife2506
    @mamerakilife2506 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Ashley this video did provide great information and I do have some feedback I feel compelled to provide. So I’m sure you probly never really thought about it and that’s totally fine it’s happens, but something I noticed about your videos and this one is particular is a good example, I noticed you left out a critical part in this interaction that is with your child. This caregiving routine is one of many others that’s a great opportunity to promote language and social skills development. As you are engaging with your child I feel it’s vital that you verbally walk her through the process. I noticed you were pretty much talking to the camera only. You forgot to even tell Mia you were giving her a spoon, that you were putting it in her mouth, and that you were taking it out of her mouth and would give her more. You want to be saying these things to her as you do them and keeping eye contact with her, giving her your full presentness to nurture a personal connection and attachment with her. I understand you were doing the video so that’s another level but it is so important. Imagine getting a spoon stuck in your mouth and pulled out repeatedly and you don’t even know what’s going on no one said anything to you. Also the one on one connection is just so important and i just had to say all this because it really hurts my heart truly. I feel what’s really wrong with most of society is that we missed that one on one personal connection with someone growing up and it is vital because it represents love.
    Ashley please know I mean all this with love. I watch all your videos and I love it all I just had to be honest. Let me know what you think

  • @odileidysbasanta
    @odileidysbasanta 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great surprise to see that you posted a new video! I noticed that you started using the signs system that you previously used with Kylie. Would you please do a video about that? ❤️

  • @TheThreeOfUs.
    @TheThreeOfUs. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey we love the channel ! we have just started our own channel and your giving us so much inspiration thank you !

  • @ArmoniPlanet
    @ArmoniPlanet 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Ashley, thanks for all your content it's fabulous! What would you recommend for starting to introduce cutlery and independent eating for a toddler 13 months old that did not have BLW before? I feel like I honestly didn't feel secure enough to do it although I sort of tried it but didn't really understand it, anyway now my son is ready and eager to eat independently but of course he has not practiced this skills much, what can you recommend?

  • @simply_linka
    @simply_linka 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you introduce BLW when the child can't sit on her own? My kid could sit on her own when she was about 7,5 mo, so I held her on my lap when feeding.

  • @Foude
    @Foude 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see in the video of Kylie at 12 months she is using a plate. Have you got any advise about introducing a plate/bowl and stopping them from lobbing it on the floor? Thanks xx

  • @roseannagrant8197
    @roseannagrant8197 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Great video 😀 When did you start letting your baby scoop her own food and bring the food to her mouth using the spoon? Thanks

    • @HapaFamily
      @HapaFamily  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Immediately, as soon as she showed a desire!

  • @msjmf_
    @msjmf_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi, I'm wondering when did you move your toddler from the high chair to a small table and chair? I notice her on a small table at 12 months!

    • @natreeves1111
      @natreeves1111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jill Nasser I believe she mentioned in a video a while back that she keeps them in a high chair until they’re able to crawl (for safety reasons), then moves to a tiny table and chair.

  • @victorialalonde9362
    @victorialalonde9362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think an espresso soup could work? 1 inch wide by 4 inch long?

  • @EmileeMahar
    @EmileeMahar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t have kids.. so if someone could explain.. (I love this channel)
    What is the benefit to starting this young? When do most parent typically introduce silverware?
    What is the age difference where one who was fought young can eat on their own VS starting older and them learning it quicker? Does this make sense?

    • @katynavor8119
      @katynavor8119 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want to say its following the Montessori principles. It's meant to promote less picky eating and independence while respecting your child as an individual person (ie. The reason why in montessori there is "yes" spaces and furniture at their level). I think her first video in the series explains it but that is the reason why I'm starting blw with my baby when he turns 6 months

  • @tegandiaz7078
    @tegandiaz7078 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! So when you start using the fork, do you do the same thing? Stab the food and then give it to them?

  • @pinkhope84
    @pinkhope84 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wish i found you earlier. My toddler1,5 years old. Would be great if i started this back then. He uses cutlery but its still a mess 😅😅😅😅

  • @paulinesambajon
    @paulinesambajon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How cute

  • @Data90
    @Data90 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a video about a toddler using silverware? I waited till my daughter was one to use silverware. I am working with her more on it.

  • @rachelduffy7470
    @rachelduffy7470 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This may seem like a silly question. I am looking at how I will start solids with my baby and am very interested in BLW. Do you (or anyone else reading this) feel like you missed out on any part of your momma/baby relationship by not feeding the baby with a puree/spoon in the more "classic" baby feeding style?

  • @rrmambuay1371
    @rrmambuay1371 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So adorable mia.

  • @weendey
    @weendey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you do when you are out and about, like at a restaurant where you don't want such a big mess. Do you still let them try or do you feed them yourself?

    • @HapaFamily
      @HapaFamily  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I still let them do it. I just spend a few minutes trying to clean the majority of the mess before we leave. 👍🏻😊

  • @zwanhair
    @zwanhair 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it ok to use the stainless spoon for a baby gum?

  • @HappyLittleNinja
    @HappyLittleNinja 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was the oatmeal something she had had before?

  • @myrielka118
    @myrielka118 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm confused. In the other video you said you didn't use high chair

  • @meiyokelee8935
    @meiyokelee8935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @tonipoblete-reyes1987
    @tonipoblete-reyes1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once you have introduced the spoon to your baby, do you have to use spoon from then on? Or depending on the food you serve?

  • @emilysharrard7634
    @emilysharrard7634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is your oatmeal receipe?

  • @hihunnieschristinehere
    @hihunnieschristinehere 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I currently live in Tennessee and I am also from Florida and all of my family still lives there. My husband and I currently have 1 child and it can be extremely overwhelming at times with no help. How do you manage? Do you have any friends or family helping in Colorado?

  • @mandyvk90
    @mandyvk90 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My daughter just uses her hands to eat. How do you prevent that when its time to use cutlery?

  • @mdo987
    @mdo987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do i do that with yogurt. Its quite runny and my baby wont give me back the spoon. Any tips? Thx guys!!

  • @bilingualfamily9677
    @bilingualfamily9677 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so helpful!!

  • @nirupamasharma1440
    @nirupamasharma1440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Use two spoons...load one replace it with the other loaded one

    • @yashodamendiratta4034
      @yashodamendiratta4034 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is ok how Ashley is doing

    • @ladybugflv
      @ladybugflv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use a second spoon to fill the one the baby uses. But I am going to drop this method.

  • @RootandElevate
    @RootandElevate 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a cutie!

  • @dongxueguo2972
    @dongxueguo2972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I have a question. Did you think the metal spoon would somehow hurt baby's teeth at the first time you fed your girl with it? That was what my husband was concerned.

    • @mainabil2766
      @mainabil2766 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dongxue GUO it’s my concern now. Please tell me what did you do?

    • @choosnau
      @choosnau 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I mean the entire video shows her kids had no issues

  • @ninawheeler8331
    @ninawheeler8331 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love all vedio got ?? My boy Is 13 months wont eat much for breakfast and lunch but will eat a ton of food for dinner only drinks milk with naps or bed time bottles sippy cups other wise how do i get him to eat more food at meal times thanks your girls are amazing and cute oh also he is advanced on lots stuff other 13 months wont do but slow on few things

  • @Siminarakazi
    @Siminarakazi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watching your all videos..thnks dear.my baby is 11 months old but she is not eating Any solid food. She is take only one bite and after refused to eat.pls guide me.. and play also give link of Amazon for you buy headband for her.its very nice

  • @rosaparker7634
    @rosaparker7634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is a metal spoon okay at this age? My son is a similar age to your daughter but he has big front teeth. My husband is worried that he might bite too hard in the spoon but I didn't think that would be an issue. His pincer grasp is good and he is now eight months old, so I really think we should start! Thanks for your videos.

    • @xxGuItArGiRLxx89
      @xxGuItArGiRLxx89 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They could accidentally poke their eye also. My husband is an emergency doctor and worried too.

  • @carolynkennedy1083
    @carolynkennedy1083 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We've got the self feeding from a loaded spoon down (with lots of mess still lol!). How do I work on scooping? Right now she's just interested in smearing her hands around in the food! Maybe she's not old enough/ ready? Almost 8 months. *Also, little Miss is pretty short and I don't feel like she can see into even shallow dishes in her highchair. How can I work around this w/o getting a new chair? 😩🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @muttvlog7476
      @muttvlog7476 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to know this too

  • @brittanymatlock43
    @brittanymatlock43 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did blw with my youngest I guess I dropped the ball she’s not really had much experience with a fork or spoon mostly because I can’t get her to sit in her hi chair never have been able to

  • @emilly1987
    @emilly1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This just makes me feel so horrible... My 19month old still refuses to even hold a spoon...

    • @liveinlakewoodranch
      @liveinlakewoodranch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don’t! Babies do things on their own time!
      Have you seen an adult not using their spoons? Exactly :) it will be okay 😉 in the past our parents were not even giving bites to babies only purées and we are okay 👌

  • @amandahayes581
    @amandahayes581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe someone has asked this, but how do you deal with introducing cutlery to older kids? My 15 month old wants to try and use the spoon, but also play with it. I know that's probably normal, but frustrating 😬🤣

    • @choosnau
      @choosnau 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This entire video will answer your question lol

  • @FarsirisCassidy
    @FarsirisCassidy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about a child that is not an eater and refuses to feed itself? Like she will play with the spoon but will not even try to approach it to her mouth. She is a toddler, mind you, we habe been trying to teach her for months, but she just does not want to eat on her own

  • @katelynkennard6091
    @katelynkennard6091 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My baby is shaking the spoon and throwing food EVERYWHERE. Any advice?

  • @soupluv
    @soupluv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you all plan to send Kylie to a Montessori style school or keep it as a lifestyle only choice :)

  • @anamartinez4002
    @anamartinez4002 ปีที่แล้ว

    My babe was pretty good about using a spoon by herself at 5 months but then I got told by an SLP that I should be spoon feeding her because there are important oral skills they need to learn from being properly spoon fed and now i’m conflicted and confused. Help ?

  • @kaylarhodan2476
    @kaylarhodan2476 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My baby is 15 months, she places the food on the spoon correctly but she flips the food and the food falls off.

  • @ikapachii7955
    @ikapachii7955 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow

  • @jamoje7410
    @jamoje7410 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍

  • @m0bz0mb39
    @m0bz0mb39 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I would rather use wooden cutlery than metal

  • @jbean9657
    @jbean9657 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My twins are 11 months. Allergic to milk (so no regular yogurt although we do some almond yogurt), no cottage cheese etc, so they hardly ever eat much that is naturally a puree....anyways they are 11 months and they don't use a spoon or fork. At this point they just gst mad if i try to make them. I missed the boat on this for sure. What on God's green does anyone have to recommend at this point? 🙄🙈