Did I Save My Geophagus Sveni? A Fishkeeping Fail
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2024
- I had a big time fail happen this week when dealing with aggression issues from my Geophagus sveni. Normally Geophagus sveni are relatively peaceful cichlids, but my two big males were fighting often.
I had to act fast to try to save one of my best looking and favorite fish. Was I able to save the sveni?
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The life of a Cichlid keeper! I’m glad it worked out.
Hey Ben! lol
When Troy’s camera is already setup, we all benefit!
Thanks for sharing all the good, and not so good that you experience!!!
👊🏻👊🏻
Great video.. nice to know I'm not the only one who has troubles😊
The important thing is that there were no fish deaths in this circumstance, so not a huge fail. Also, sometimes I call it "Fish Catching 101" 😂
Man, he colored up a lot more colored now that he isn't being harassed! Beautiful. Love these mistakes videos, it allows people to learn and what to do in these scenarios. Great work
A learning video for me too. My take away was male female ratio, I know it’s been a problem for me. I’ve successfully stocked all male for different community fish to keep aggression levels down
you're human like the rest of us & I appreciate seeing the same fails that I have made in the hobby love the vids guys
Really enjoyed this video. Explaining the issue, your thought process, and all of the steps you took. I found it interesting and educational. Showing the challenges from time to time highlights the practical problems and solutions. Good stuff
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 👊🏻👊🏻
Thanks for the teachable moment on recognizing and addressing cichlid aggression. You may have been frustrated but it all worked out at least for now. Fish do have personalities and that’s what makes the hobby interesting.
Glad you posted this and I'm not the only one that does stuff like this 😂 She really does look stunning in the 180 👌
Yea Troy I had similar issues with unexpected aggression with a peaceful tank to a dead fish over night. My electric blue acara s killed one of my Uaru's that was approx 8 to 9 inches compared to the acaras at 3 to 4 inches. I had to rehomed 1 acara things calmed down for a short time then I had to move my other acara to another tank as it was bullying my Uaru's again. Crazy how you never know why all of a sudden things go bad
Your Geophagus sveni are Really cool !!!!!! Hope you put them in a monster tank.
Thank you!
great content...we all go through those moments. lord knows i have...lol
Good job! I recently lost a beautiful geo due to aggression so I know how it feels on the otherside of that lol
Thank you great info , have new geos , sveni, winemilleri and red head tapajo. Plan to put in a new 120 tanks with discus. Currently in quarantine. All great info
No need to be embarrassed man. I think we've all been through similar things and we learn from them. I recently had a similar situation where I caught the wrong fish, messed up the aqua scaping and had start all over again. It just happens. Ty for posting this. We do things like this because we care so much about our fish.
I enjoy when people show to good & the ugly. Gives others both sides of the fence if they ever wanted to do research For their future stock. Love the video!🔥😎
Appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
Best way to move big fish is when there sleeping. After the lights go out on their normal schedule come back in 2 hours. Just use a flash light and you can scoop them up easy
Well Troy you’ve just dealt with what I’ve been saying for years while keeping Sveni….and I’ve kept them for quite a few years now. When they get aggressive, it’s not pretty! Yes they are for the most part a fairly calm fish in the right environment, but when a male gets aggressive it’s pretty much an out of control cichlid that wants to terrorize its tank mates. I’ve dealt with it a few times and have had to separate the fish. I’m usually able to add the fish back in a few weeks later after a scape change….but I have multiple tanks and can do that, for those that don’t…it becomes a headache to leave the fish in there because over time the fish or other geo they are bothering usually won’t last to long….sucks but that’s the truth of it all….Geos just like any other cichlid have the potential to be aggressive. I keep them in fairly high numbers and mix them with larger fish like my Deamons who are just about the same size and also get angry every once in a while….i guess this is part of keeping big South American Cichlids! Glad it worked out my man 🙏🏻
I have a piece plexiglass the same width and height of my aquarium. It helps to segregate part of the aquarium to make catching the fish easier. I corral them into a corner, push the plexiglass glass into the substrate and now I only have small area to chase them around in, hope that helps.
This is genius.
Cleaning 9 tanks at a time is so much work bro...u are commendable...As it pleasing to watch big tanks but so stressful to catch the fish sometimes.i hope the aggression doesn't come back ...Always love u guys ...❤😊
you can just add a few more adults to re-establish the hierarchy and diffuse the potential aggression. separating them will not fundamentally solve the problem. when they are reunited, the same issue is likely to arise again. now one is living alone and the other group is smaller, be careful because you may be walking a very fine line here. i have had a G. altifrons male kill a female overnight when the trio had been together for a few years and no one showed significant aggression during this time. expanding the group to six or eight is probably a better and long-term solution
We’ve all been there and destroyed our aquascapes catching fish. What I’ve found that works well, is to use two nets. Use one to nudge the fish to the other net.
Great video sometime shit hits the fan and u gotta act quickly. I love how this hobby can also have multiple solutions to a problem and glad urs worked out and u didnt lose any geos. I unfortunately lost 3 of the 4 that took me soooo long to find 😢
Dang, sorry to hear that! Hope you try to find some more
Interesting gorgeous and sad. I had six Geophagus Altifrons bought at one inch. For three years everything was great. They grow up to be gorgeous adults absolutely stunning. That's what all the chasing and murdering started. I pulled out the biggest maie and even bigger female. I separated them by egg crate in a 90 gallon tank. He drove through the egg crate then tried to kill her several times. That's when they went back to pet shop. Very sad very beautiful.
Great video again
Thanks!
I have the same problem with my 2x 2yr old sveni, i have had to separate them twice. Only thing i can think of is adding more at their size.
I have 2 Tapajos and 2 red stripes and the large Tapajos about 3” is insanely aggressive towards the others as well as my 2 albino hecklii’s … only terrified of my 2 electric blue acaras
We all make mistakes. Looks like you got it.
Una técnica que he probado y que funciona, es poner al macho más agresivo en un recipiente transparente flotando en el acuario. Como una forma de aislamiento, pero dentro del mismo acuario. Un recipiente al que llamo "el táper de la vergüenza". Un par de días confinado y se le baja la agresividad. También he observado que usas una sola malla: para mejorar tu técnica de captura usa 2 mallas y te puedes ayudar de una separación para reducir el área de pesca, así no padeces persiguiendo tu pez por todo el acuario. Espero te ayuden mis consejos, saludos desde Cajamarca - Perú.
Expanding the group could definitely work as mentioned by someone else. Just finding the right size group could be tricky. Removing the females could also work as they have less reasons for aggression. Finally taking out the aggressor for a few weeks can allow the others to grow a bit. Then once the aggressors return, the rest can hold their own. Or as you have said in the past. Re scape the tank, might take a few attempts to get them to all settle
Word of advice. Use 2 nets. You can use 1 net to chase him into the other net
I have a Blood Parrot in my 150 thats starting to become a complete menace in my tank he bullies my Oscars considering finding him a new home
Troy,
We can be excellent fish keepers and do what we can and think this may work for that but there is one thing we can’t control and that is the fish personalities. Even small fish can get aggressive and cichlids you never know maybe it was breeding season and the male was the dominant fish and since you removed the female now there is no one to fight over lol. What a stunning fish though. I do hope it all works out. I hate trying to catch fish with decoration and plants. Uggh it is so annoying lol. 😂
Oh I feel your pain
I'm having the same issue with me geos.. sadly I don't have another tank to move one of them...
Add your yellow jacket in to shpw them who the real tank boss is😅
Haha pretty sure he’d go on a rampage
Setting up a 75 gallon now with Sveni, electric blue acaras and a severum.
What is a safe amount of Sveni in this setup?
Maybe a stupid question, but why dont you swap the 2 groups Geos? Put the Sveni in the 180 and the Pyrocephalus in the 150.
I think the Sveni would enjoy the bigger tank and would pay less attention to eachother with the bigger tankmates. And the other way around I think the pyros would do better with Angels and EBA.
Originally it was to protect the sveni from aggression from anyone bigger. But now, if i could catch them all without destroying the scapes, I'd probably make that swap
@@CichlidBros Yeah I feel you. The process of catching that Sveni looked painful. And you sounded really upset about the scape breaking down. But I think it will be the best for the fish in the long run.
My experience is that a situation with cichlid agression or stress cant be solved by temperarely changing something, just to change it back later. It might be fine for a couple days, or even weeks, but eventually the outcome will be the same.
I don’t have the luxury of having multiple cichlid tanks and put different fish in different aquariums, and I have had a few of my fish looking exactly like that Sveni. Sitting at the bottom and breathing heavily. I could put them in quarantine to destress them, but it would only last a few days before they would sit at the bottom again. This cost some of my favorite fish.
If I was in your position I would try to swap them. Maybe your scape will get a little damage, but you can always rebuild a scape, you cant revive a dead fish… Of course its up to you.
Do you have any experience with Geo Red Humps? I added 3 small juvies to my SA tank. I have 2 Geo Red Head Tapajos juvies in there also. Im hoping for no geo on geo violence.
Yep. More info here: Geophagus Steindachneri | Complete Care & Breeding Guide
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Why don't you use two nets to catch the fish? It's way easier. Anyway, they don't fight anymore because they have nothing to fight over after you removed the female.
U need a bigger net
I would’ve just grabbed another male to put in with your already moved female simples 👍☹️
How do you think a Geophagus would do with some African peacocks and haps?
I bought 2 Oscars they started fighting. I got rid of one is it better to just keep 1 like your 180?