Thanks for this excellent piece. I knew of him because I went to the University of Washington and I’m a big football fan. Because of him Washington ranks in the top 25 of winning percentage. I believe your huskers are much higher.
Nowadays in the NFL they like to identify and attack any weak link. In the old days (pre Super Bowl era) the strategy was to "attack the enemy at his strength" That apparently was Dobie's strategy. This dichotomy would emerge in the 1968 Super Bowl when the Jets successfully attacked the Colts undersized right defensive front. This was (for the NFL) a new approach. After the Jets victory it became the way to go.
Great video. Thank you! Washington fans are definitely aware of Dobie, and what he was able to accomplish. But this was the best deep dive video I’ve seen on him
Never heard of Coach Dobie but found this report on him very very interesting. Thank you so much for your entire collection of videos on the history of college football.
I had never heard of Gloomy Gil. With such a huge personality, and such an astounding record, I wonder how it is even possible that he is so forgotten! Thanks for another great vid!
Wow! Im 68 years old and never knew about this coach. Have always been a Bama fan. Bear Bryant must have learned from coach Dobie. Their psychology was very similar. 58 - 0 - 3 at Washington, and still get fired? Insane. Could anyone imagine coach Saban being fired with that record? The Bama fans would have burnt the God damn state of Alabama to the ground. Now, Bama is being run by a coach that just left Washington. Hope coach Deborah's success continues. Great podcast.
I had heard of Dobie from the book, "Sports Laughs," by Herman L. Masin, which I read through about a hundred times when I was young. The line about the backs getting to the tackles too fast is in there, along with a few other Dobie anecdotes. I recently bought a used copy of the book for the nostalgia because the one from my school days had long ago fallen into ruin.
Dobie hated the forward pass. When Cornell lost to Dartmouth and Swede Oberlander, (kind of the Patrick Mahomes of the 1920's) 62-13, Dobie declared a 13-0 victory, since "The forward pass isn't real football".
his child hood made me think of 12 mighty orphans about the masonic home for orphans in texas who became a competitive team in texas high school football in the great depression
I was thinking Mike Leach right before you said his name. When I heard 'Gloomy Gil', I thought...."oh cool! a Gil Dobie video!" Knew about him, but now I know more. When I hear the name Zuppke, I think Illinois. Don't they have a stadium or field or something named after him? Outstanding job on the research! Can't wait for the next one! (but I guess I'll have to)
If you ever need a topic for your channel, look into How NCAA survived the WWII era. You hear about pro sports during this time but never how NCAA's Biggest sport survived in this era, could even be 2--3 parts if long.
@@CollegeFootballHistory Cool, I know very little on area and info is hard to find as if most schools were no longer schools or even shut down for 4 years is about all I can find is overall info.
Dobie was a great coach and could not have been so successful at multiple schools if he were the ogre he's often depicted as. He brings to mind Bobby Knight, who got a lot out of his players for many years and could not have if he was just a bully or Ty Cobb who has so often been described as a great player who was a reprehensible human being but, per what has been published in recent years was not nearly that bad. It's just that the image is more interesting to write about. "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." Dobie's record at Washington is factual but strains credibility: 9 consecutive undefeated seasons. What has to be realized is that the Huskies never played anyone outside of the northwest area, (until they started playing California, who had just taken up the sport after playing rugby, in 1915), that their schedule consisted of high school teams, athletic clubs, small colleges plus Washington State, Oregon and Oregon State, who Dobie would only play in Seattle or at a neutral location. His subsequent record at Navy and Cornell is what his reputation as a great coach really stands on. Also, he didn't win the 'national championship" in 1921-23. There was no national championship then, except those rewarded by mostly retroactive opinions. The AP, (writer's) poll didn't begin until 1936 and the UPI (coach's) poll until 1950. And even those 'national championships were unofficial. We didn't have the BCS until 1998 or the playoff until 2014 and even those have proven inadequate, (last year's Georgia team wasn't any worse than the previous two, which won the playoff but they weren't in it). Maybe now we'll get everybody in the playoff that deserves to be there and we'll have a real national champion for the first time.
I had heard the name, but other than the fact that he was a successful football coach, oh and I think I had heard he coached at Washington, that's it. I certainly was not familiar with his story or details of his accomplishments.
My great granddad had a simliar situation in his childhood.his widowed mother gave him to shakers.he ran away from them and came home.shakers thought sex was a sin so they would take kids in order to keep going.needless to say they died out
No I had not. A presentation on Friedman of Michigan would be worth doing . Grange lucked out in 24 but not 25 when Friedman was participating and Michigan won.
I look at 8:56 at the headline's scare quotes around "Exam", and wonder if the reporter had a low opinion of the department's, or possibly the whole school's, academic rigor. "Exam", hmph! I mean, there would've been plenty of space in the headline to write Examination, so it's not like the quotes indicated a slang abbreviation.
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A huge history fan and of course college football. Never heard of Gil, but absolutely love what you have done with the channel!
Thank you!
I'd not heard of him until today. Thanks for a very well written and delivered piece.
Have never heard of this gentleman. Love your videos
the reason that dobie left the naval academy is similar to why bear bryant left kentucky
Thanks for this excellent piece. I knew of him because I went to the University of Washington and I’m a big football fan. Because of him Washington ranks in the top 25 of winning percentage. I believe your huskers are much higher.
Nowadays in the NFL they like to identify and attack any weak link. In the old days (pre Super Bowl era) the strategy was to "attack the enemy at his strength" That apparently was Dobie's strategy. This dichotomy would emerge in the 1968 Super Bowl when the Jets successfully attacked the Colts undersized right defensive front. This was (for the NFL) a new approach. After the Jets victory it became the way to go.
I've been hoping for a new episode from you. Thank you and great job!
I do not think he would function so well in the era of the "Portal" or "NIL".
Great video. Thank you! Washington fans are definitely aware of Dobie, and what he was able to accomplish. But this was the best deep dive video I’ve seen on him
When I was 10 years old (19558) I played Little League Baseball in Everett, Washington at Gil Dobie Field.
Thank you so much for researching him!!
First I've ever heard of him. Great stuff, thanks!
"If I didn't have so many cripples you'd be sitting the bench" Classic coaching right there lol.
Never heard of Coach Dobie but found this report on him very very interesting. Thank you so much for your entire collection of videos on the history of college football.
I had never heard of Gloomy Gil. With such a huge personality, and such an astounding record, I wonder how it is even possible that he is so forgotten! Thanks for another great vid!
Although he was a basketball coach. Bob knight coached same way to get best out of his players.
I had not heard of him. Thanks for telling us about him. It was very interesting. I appreciate it
I had never heard of Gil Dobie until you introduced us.
Unfortunately I'd never heard of him before. Thanks fr the great video
Wow!
Im 68 years old and never knew about this coach.
Have always been a Bama fan.
Bear Bryant must have learned from coach Dobie.
Their psychology was very similar.
58 - 0 - 3 at Washington, and still get fired?
Insane.
Could anyone imagine coach Saban being fired with that record?
The Bama fans would have burnt the God damn state of Alabama to the ground.
Now, Bama is being run by a coach that just left Washington.
Hope coach Deborah's success continues.
Great podcast.
Thanks Jon I like this lesson. Also you won’t ever have to tell these history’s from your bathroom like you do with your takes on Husker games. 😂😂 GBR
Never heard of him. I would have remembered. His last name being similar to mine except for the final letter.
not until this video thanks
I had heard of Dobie from the book, "Sports Laughs," by Herman L. Masin, which I read through about a hundred times when I was young. The line about the backs getting to the tackles too fast is in there, along with a few other Dobie anecdotes. I recently bought a used copy of the book for the nostalgia because the one from my school days had long ago fallen into ruin.
Dobie hated the forward pass. When Cornell lost to Dartmouth and Swede Oberlander, (kind of the Patrick Mahomes of the 1920's) 62-13, Dobie declared a 13-0 victory, since "The forward pass isn't real football".
Not to be confused with Dobie Gillis.
I do not remember that show at all.....
Not heard of Gil Dobie? Do you think I was raised under a rock by wolves? Go- Huskies.
I've heard strange things about you Washington people! 😀
Thanks!
I appreciate this! Thank you!
never heard of him
thanks for the video
excellent entry
his child hood made me think of 12 mighty orphans about the masonic home for orphans in texas who became a competitive team in texas high school football in the great depression
I was thinking Mike Leach right before you said his name. When I heard 'Gloomy Gil', I thought...."oh cool! a Gil Dobie video!" Knew about him, but now I know more. When I hear the name Zuppke, I think Illinois. Don't they have a stadium or field or something named after him? Outstanding job on the research! Can't wait for the next one! (but I guess I'll have to)
I'll try to get these out on a more reasonable time frame.
@@CollegeFootballHistory I didn't mean it to sound like "hurry up", more like the dog whining to get in....LOL
If you ever need a topic for your channel, look into How NCAA survived the WWII era. You hear about pro sports during this time but never how NCAA's Biggest sport survived in this era, could even be 2--3 parts if long.
I have a long list, and that is one of the topics....
@@CollegeFootballHistory Cool, I know very little on area and info is hard to find as if most schools were no longer schools or even shut down for 4 years is about all I can find is overall info.
Dobie was a great coach and could not have been so successful at multiple schools if he were the ogre he's often depicted as. He brings to mind Bobby Knight, who got a lot out of his players for many years and could not have if he was just a bully or Ty Cobb who has so often been described as a great player who was a reprehensible human being but, per what has been published in recent years was not nearly that bad. It's just that the image is more interesting to write about. "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
Dobie's record at Washington is factual but strains credibility: 9 consecutive undefeated seasons. What has to be realized is that the Huskies never played anyone outside of the northwest area, (until they started playing California, who had just taken up the sport after playing rugby, in 1915), that their schedule consisted of high school teams, athletic clubs, small colleges plus Washington State, Oregon and Oregon State, who Dobie would only play in Seattle or at a neutral location. His subsequent record at Navy and Cornell is what his reputation as a great coach really stands on. Also, he didn't win the 'national championship" in 1921-23. There was no national championship then, except those rewarded by mostly retroactive opinions. The AP, (writer's) poll didn't begin until 1936 and the UPI (coach's) poll until 1950. And even those 'national championships were unofficial. We didn't have the BCS until 1998 or the playoff until 2014 and even those have proven inadequate, (last year's Georgia team wasn't any worse than the previous two, which won the playoff but they weren't in it). Maybe now we'll get everybody in the playoff that deserves to be there and we'll have a real national champion for the first time.
I had heard the name, but other than the fact that he was a successful football coach, oh and I think I had heard he coached at Washington, that's it. I certainly was not familiar with his story or details of his accomplishments.
Heard of name Gill Dobie but no clue who he was.
My great granddad had a simliar situation in his childhood.his widowed mother gave him to shakers.he ran away from them and came home.shakers thought sex was a sin so they would take kids in order to keep going.needless to say they died out
No I had not. A presentation on Friedman of Michigan would be worth doing . Grange lucked out in 24 but not 25 when Friedman was participating and Michigan won.
Me on Retro Bowl
was gil dobie the inspiration for dobie gillis
No more so than Darby O'Gill.
I look at 8:56 at the headline's scare quotes around "Exam", and wonder if the reporter had a low opinion of the department's, or possibly the whole school's, academic rigor. "Exam", hmph! I mean, there would've been plenty of space in the headline to write Examination, so it's not like the quotes indicated a slang abbreviation.
I got the idea from reading a number of these stories that the accusation about cheating was rather flimsy.
never heard of the guy, but awesome story tho
You talking about some football or telling a bed time story?😂😊