The Mass Exodus of Foreigners from China
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It seems like every other video or article related to China is about how someone is leaving. Foreigners, at least westerners are leaving China in droves, despite many of them being fully invested in the country, with no intention on leaving. So what is making life so bad that these long term expats/residents would want to pack up and go?
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@ADVCHINA "Exodus" . The second book of the Old Testament; it tells of the departure of the Israelites out of slavery in Egypt (see also Egypt), made possible by the ten plagues of Egypt and the parting of the Red Sea. Moses led them, and their destination was the Promised Land. ... Exodus is a Greek word meaning “departure.”
@ADVCHINA However as a Chinese of China , I don't remember we Chinese had invited you came to visit or even live in China.
Red Flag None of us in the UK invited any Chinese here but there are more Chinese in the UK than English in China. Dick Head
Dude, why would the local government grant Chinese dimploma if the private school teach American cirriculum which does not teach Chinese langauge arts or Chinese history? Should us government grand GED and American high school dimplomas to those who can't not read/write English at the high school level or know nothing about US Constitution or any knowledge of US history?
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I taught English for ten years in Beijing. Loved it at first but over time you discover what it is really like to live in China. It certainly isn't any place too grow old. Deception is the order of the day. Disinformation all the time. Chinese ethics is an oxymoron.
I was living in China for nearly 4 years as an ESL teacher and recently moved back to America. I left for many of the reasons you stated. I just couldn't deal with it anymore.
The blameless Chinese where opium addicts long before Britian sold opium to willing and addicted chinese
Opium was also sold by the Chinese where do you think the various hill tribes
In the golden triangle came from .CHINAS originall opium growers that's where
@@nooffence7670 bullshit
Beautiful! I only lasted two years in China but 20 years in Taiwan.
How to go to taiwan and work, for a white guy? There are what kind of opportunity? I wanna go too.
@@Mente_Magicka My son has lived in Taiwan for 5 years and also works there. I have friends there and they are very good people.
Good stuff !!
Sounds like cause for celebration. Go out & Taiwan on 🍸🎃
Do they pay well?
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Both left.
Is there a particular video where they talk about how they ended up leaving?
And how!
joining WHOM ?
I don't think the Chinese government was ever interested in having non-Chinese foreigners live in China. There is just too much risk of dangerous attitudes and a lack of control for the Party. They were interested in using foreigners as "temporary workers" (i.e. language teachers), but I don't think they were ever keen on having foreigners actually move to China and start living there on a full-time basis. I think there is also some subtle, unrecognized racism underlying this. Ask people on the street whether China should grant Chinese citizenship to non-ethnic Chinese persons...
My Asian friends would agree. Second and Third generation Asians are better, though. FOBS are horrible.
And you'll never hear anybody in western media criticize them for that. Only whites are racist and "xenophobic" for wanting their own ethno states. for everyone else it's not only OK, it's a virtue.
I think you mean non-Asian foreigners. There are plenty of non-Han people in China (hell, they even were the government of China for 500+ years)
Yi, Qiang, Miao, Manchu, Mongolian, Viet, Korean, Uygur, Turk, Kazak, Tibetan...
All with Chinese citizenship. It does a disservice to the minorities and indigenous peoples of China to erase them from discussion.
Xenophobic is the better term as their against any not Chinese. Racism would be hating all Whites and Africans but being ok with all Asians. In Asia Xenophobic seams to be more the case. If it China vs any other Asian group that is tribalism. Racism is a fairly new thing from situations where one could not tell what tribe or country people were from. To be clear races are white, black, yellow, brown in the old often considered racist division (at my time 70's it was anti-racist songs listing all colors are wonderful and stuff like that) It get sort of stupid though when white is still white but your expected to use African, Asian, Australian Aborigine.
@@Autojones If you want an ethno state, you are racist, regardless of your ethnicity.
My wife is Chinese (born in Thailand). We’re both learning Chinese. We explored the idea of settling in China and build our relationship with her extended family. We’ve visited a few places over the years and I sensed that it’s not possible to have a decent live in China, or develop ideas or become successful (before being taken down by some powerful competitor). We looked at the schools too. Frightening places! We investigated homeschooling and Montessori education and hit against a mountain of disapproving bureaucracy.
The Chinese themselves were studiously ignorant, not only about their own country and politics but about the world at large and couldn’t help or advise (oh we have plenty of freedom, we’re not being observed, Mao made China great, etc.). And unbelievably filthy, in mind and in body (unless you’re kind of well off and have your own private expensive apartment). It’s a soulless country, all technology, mindless traditions, no real values or consideration for others (except for practical reasons...) And then I re-remembered Taiwan... a country that had a close relationship with South Africa during the Apartheid years. In my mind I thought they were a pariah state (I’ve been wilfully ignorant too). So I went to go see for myself.
Wow, talk about chalk and cheese. Taiwan is a refreshing, progressive, global,and cosmopolitan country. Clean and organised, like Japan. They welcome foreigners (on the whole). They learn English. Their schools are progressive (or at least try to be). They are fairly knowledgeable about the world. They care about each other and the environment. They are scrupulously clean (very Japanese, I felt).
I’ve oversimplified of course, and didn’t get to explore either country deeply. But my gut feelings are that we should avoid China (and be ultra wary of China) and embrace and support Taiwan.
@Peter D What a bizarre and ignorant response! Women aren't possessions.
Are you married? Did you make a point of ONLY dating women from your own country so as not to "steal" any woman whose parents came from some other country (e.g. an American woman whose family is Italian in case you are stealing from Italian men. Or basically any woman from Thailand in case you might steal her from Thai men)!? :o
@@quenanavas5749 He gets no girl
Taiwan was part of Japan (or, occupied by them) for much longer than Taiwan was part of mainland China over the last century and a half, maybe that has something to do with how they keep the place up.
I have heard that China is like one big New York City; dirty, same mean attitude, and even more corrupt and aggressive. Perhaps there is a limit to how many people you can just pile in on top of each other...
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Taiwan is only good for one thing: night markets.
Scrupulously clean Taiwan is not. Taipei MRT maybe, but not anywhere else.
I left China for one reason : my children. Which can be divided into two sub-reasons 1) pollution. I could no longer cope with my making them breathe, eat and drink poison 2) Chinese education, aka nationalist brainwashing + destruction of individual thought and sense of responsibility + animal-like spirit of competition.
Now for an idea of a subject you could cover in the future : how mixed families (Chinese + foreigner) cope after moving out of China, and how the Chinese side of the family sees it (mine see my wife as little short of a traitor for leaving to a far-way country and not being there for them).
Your wife's family see her as a traitor for being brave enough to move to the other side of the world with her husband?? Charming ... I bet your own family didn't see you as a traitor when you were living in China.
@@realdeal7530 When I told my widowed dad I was moving to China he was willing to pay for the first (one-way) ticket available himself lol. Of course he was going to miss me, but his son's interest and chance to discover a whole new world came first.
"Traitor" is maybe a bad wording, more like "ungrateful" or "unworthy". It's a whole different culture, where collective comes ahead of individual, and where family ties and hierarchy are paramount. Children are expected to support aging parents, including financially (in part because pension plans for the older generation aren't exactly comprehensive, but imho even more so for cultural reasons). This can already be a difficult situation for children who moved to a big Chinese city and can't be there physically for their parents on a regular basis, so imagine when they moved to another continent. In my specific case, the wife actually has a didi (younger brother) who lives with the parents and is doing an amazing job at burning the family's savings (which are of course owed exclusively to him, the male descendant). So, as much as I love the in-laws in spite of their flaws (and there actually are some aspects from their worldview that we could learn from, imho), we've made it clear to them that they won't see a cent from us. Hence the extra resentment.
Anyway, I don't hold a grudge against them, they grew up in a different world (one that is actually starting to be challenged by the younger Chinese generation itself). I do hold some grudge against my parasitic brother-in-law, but that is another story. What saddens me is that they (mostly the father-in-law, in fact) aren't giving my wife any moral support for her massively brave choice of moving to Europe, and that they don't seem to fully grasp that the main motivator for this decision was our children - their grandchildren - NOT pure self-interest.
@@chunyanhu3867 Are you british ? I got you when you said "didi" :)
@@chunyanhu3867 it's funny, how you said brainwashing education, when they most the time teach you about math and language. They barely teaches you history. I can say that as a fact, they often don't teach you about history or politics because math and language are the primary education we focus on.
@@chanchong4924 You don't see the obvious problem with knowing nothing about history? Note that people who don't know history are bound to repeat it. *cough* concentration camps *cough*
If they don't teach critical thinking and questioning things while controlling the news and censoring the internet you become very vulnerable to propaganda.
I’m Chinese and hearing about how people are forced out out of china breaks my heart. I really don’t understand why the government is doing all this. Turning people who genuinely loves china away is completely contradictory to what our culture has been about...
Without this channel i would never come close on hearing things like this, thank you for bringing the information in the open
The culture of the communist leaders is not the same as Chinese traditional culture. That's why.
因为这些人没有正经的工作，中国政府不会给一些在中国教英语的loser发签证的，就像美国一样， 你要申请h1b，总不会凭借清洁工的身份申请吧，博主就因为没有拿到签证才走的，其实中国人会感到很庆幸，因为中国要的是high skill，而不是在中国混的loser。
有什么不好理解的 你看看你这个帖子下面的回复里 一堆白人天天想着让西藏独立 还说是为了帮助建设西藏 他们怎么不让冲绳独立呢？ 非洲一堆穷人 印度更是穷的叮当响 他们怎么不去那帮助呢 西藏用的着他们帮助？西藏再穷的人 现在也比旁边居住在印度的那群藏人好过多了 那群在印度的藏人 现在连身份证都没有 印度政府不承认他们 他们现在只能从事最低端的工作 他们怎么不去对印度政府劝说 ？ 挂羊头卖狗肉 都是虚伪的很 让他们离开正合适
想在那搞煽动还说是为了发展藏药 好假
>"i don't understand why the government is doing all this"
nice, you just proved the "chinese people are brainwashed by the chinese government" meme.
I left China in 2017 despite having a successful 8 year design career there. I was starting to feel all the anti-foreigner pressures, both from government and citizens, plus the crackdown on VPNs, difficulty in banking and getting/keeping a home. Never coming back (maybe for visiting friends but not staying). I am SouthEast Asian and not white, and could be mistaken for a South-chinese so I dont think its an anti-west only thing, generally for all foreigners.
Smart move, don't go back not even for a visit.
In 2017, I went there with a white colleague for six months for business and leisure. I felt the hostile attitude toward foreigners. After the trip, I quit my job because my boss asked me to go back to China again. It's not news that Chinese police push suspects off a building or a bridge. Then the cause of death is depression.
Which part of China did you visit? China is vast country and the people's altitudes differ with each region. The Tier 1 and Tier 2 cities are more cosmopolitan and generally more friendly towards foreigners.
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I’m a Taiwanese. It’s so soothing and healing watching the scooter scenery and listening to you guys talk. Thank you so much for voicing the truth.
Taiwan number one 🇹🇼 🥇
I don’t blame them. How can you imagine yourself living under the social credit system, if you have a choice to leave?
I left chengdu almost 20 years ago, and now live in new york.
Can't compare the freedom of speech and the fresh and cleaner air in USA, I love New York!
"I love New Yorks fresh Air" - First known historical recording: ca. 2019
I don’t want to go to China if NYC air is clean in comparison 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ggaffgaff3072 and here we complain about Paris, lol Americans find our air clean.
Amanda L New York is the last city where I wanna live in the world because paying 2000 dollars for a super tiny room its nothing else than modern slavery
@@franctokyo5981 its that bad??? In Paris, we pay around 900 for a one-bedroom equipped appartment
Believe me you guys i've been here for 8 years now. I am a teacher, economics teacher not ESL, and I have been thinking a lot about everything that has been happening in China. I am married to a Chinese but we have been holding off on having a baby because of things that are happening in China
@islam is best Kinda ironic that someone like you is saying something like that. ;P
Frosty1979 lol
Lol wanting to do a runner from your wife eh lol
I don’t find it ironic at all. Given the situation with the Uighurs I’m surprised that more Muslims don’t feel that way.
I also have been here 8 or 9 years. Two kids with Chinese wife. Last summer my visa renewal application was rejected. In fact, they told me not to even apply. The reason? No reason given and I only a week left on my visa. It was a huge ordeal to get back in, but it was a warning siren. I believe what was said that it is a message from the govt. They don't want us here anymore. Now I am looking at options for my family. It seems that the USA doesn't want foreigners either and I don't' want to bring my family into that kind of atmosphere. It's a pity because there seems to be no rational explanation for such xenophobic behavior in China as well as in my home country, the United States. So where to next? Maybe Equador?
I just can't believe that a decent, normal, honest human being would drive a scooter without wearing gloves. Absolutely blows my mind!
I don't get this glove thing , I never wore gloves driving scooter in Taiwan. Is this an inside joke or something?
Love this one:-)
@@timeless8135 don't the sun do stuff to your skin? I mean, exposing your light-skin under the sun for a long period of time will cause your skin to redden and peel off... and in the long term it will tan, and also aged considerably, very wrinkled and old looking hand.
@@xponen Yes, you are correct , but I never worried so much about my hands. I would cover up the rest of my body though , never had a problem with my hands though. Having said that , I run a tile and stone installation company and my hands get pretty hardened from moving rock and stone all day .
@kim Dierichsen totally missed that!
The longer you stay the more danger your in.
Amen
because the more you learn about China, you will see a more clear picture and you know it isn't how things done
they are still living in dark age
Every country have it uprising and down rising
Yes, but the CCP has to be the stupidest bunch of people on the planet! And the biggest reason is because they screwed their own country big time!
The 91 million people of the CCP have got to go!
@@sarahhaugh7922 But tbh China is the faster growing developing country ever ,and if the ccp were responsible of doing that ,then I'm proud of them
@@radoinezoubir3370 I suspect that economic growth in China was largely due to greedy western capitalists moving their manufacturing businesses from the West to China because of cheap labor and lack of environmental regulations. The western businessmen basically sold their companies for profit, no morals at all, as long as they make money, even if they hurt their own people due to increased unemployment in the west, thanks to factories closing down and people losing their jobs.
@@grumpiebrown its not really about that since there is a lots of cheap labors countries in third countries like mine for example "Morocco " but the reason why everyone putting their industry on China is the huge natural source that can help you build your projects easily
Not just foreigners, even Chinese themselves are leaving China if they have money, China politic is so unpredictable that no one know if you will get in trouble the next day or not.
Duy Anh Lưu this is why the whole pacific rim is full of chinese.
Unfortunately true
@Maintenance Renegade Trump can't argue out a paper bag.... how did North Korea go? Lmfao.
@@Kenny-sh3si they are reconnecting the roads, and demining the dmz
@@johnharker7194 They are still making nukes though, which is what Trump wanted them to stop and get rid of. It's fine, won't take a day or even months but its still mostly cosmetic stuff. This is I think the 4th time they got to around this stage. They backed out all the previous times. Would be cool if Trump and South Korea can get them over the hump this time.
Why would you think building a life in China would be a good thing for for a westerner? It's common knowledge that China isn't a free country.
@Jimmy.... I think 80% of Chinese support the State ideology. So, if foreigners don't like the situation , they are FREE to leave. I did .
I spent seven years teaching in China 🇨🇳. I’ll never go back
Hell
I haven't been so impressed by a 'mini-documentary', rant or whatever you wanna call it, in a long time. WELL DONE GUYS.
Our family are Han Canadians, We left China in 2015, after living there for 11 years.
We home schooled our daughter in China. We found that local schools in China are teaching kids pretty twisted life attitudes even from kindergarten, kids are often taught to be narcissists.
I also had kidney cancer, that Chinese hospitals misdiagnosed it twice as something else, luckily it was finally caught.
We have a local chinese friend who had lymph cancer, he had a hundred CT scans and the hospitals never gave him a protective apron for the procedures. He also found that new cancer drugs are 3 times more expensive in China, he ended up smuggling his own drugs from Taiwan and Hong Kong.
We know a doctor in China, the hospital chief ordered her to add Chinese medicines in her practice for the sake of nationalism (love your country).
Doctor salaries are very low that the custom is to supplement their incomes with gifts from the patients. It is the de facto custom.
People in China are not well taken care of. The main reason is that the power hungry Party has to keep control of every sector. There is no real medical association, just the Party controlling everything, no real education association, just the Party.
Very good to hear an honest answer about a garbage govt that needs to be changed. The problem is that people are brainwashed into thinking that the communist govt is the people, when its not. Taiwan is shining example of a China without XI
@@stevenobinator2229 I lived in Taiwan over 20 years ago. It's democratic system completely obliterates the stupid lie of the Chinese Communists that Western democracy wouldn't work in mainland China. The PRC will never be an efficient capitalist system since the Party is hostile to the rule of law and human rights.
@@TesterBoy great name Btw. I just hope China isnt able to export any of their system to other countries. There should be an alliance of countries against China at this point.
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"We found that local schools in China are teaching kids pretty twisted life attitudes even from kindergarten, kids are often taught to be narcissists. "
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My father was born and raised in Harbin 3rd generation. The local Chinese government killed his younger brother because he pointed out a neighbor who was stealing. It turned out he was a relative of some low level official the my father was arrested and my grandmother was beaten my grandfather was taken away and was gone for 3 years. Thats the China that my family knows. My family was Russian (BIG NOSE) and so automatically a FOREIGNER.
My question is(If you are from Russia), why don't you report this to the Russian government so they would question there relationship with China?
@@eze__95 He said that he was third generation in his comment. Ethnic Russians have lived in China's northeastern and northwestern regions since as early as the late 19th century and "White Russian" is one of the 55 recognised ethnic minorities of China. They are PRC citizens and hold PRC passports. With the exception of some isolated farming communities in northwestern China, most ethnic Russians in China are, for all intents and purposes, culturally and linguistically assimilated.
@The MGTOW Monk I think that;'s why they get along so well with Israel. They are together planning the new world order city of Neom, very creepy. Maybe both ethnic groups, not just the Chinese - have the Denisovan hominid DNA. They have the same constellation of negative inborn traits.
The ( Nazi) Party Cadres are Untouchables ....!!!!
@@TheABCKevin That would be interesting to see; ethnic Caucasians/Russians who are Chinese citizens, and speak Chinese.
I had no sympathy for Westerners who are living China. You knew from the beginning that you were going to live in a country where human rights are non existent. Deal with it. If you are forced out, too bad for you. My dad spent 2 years working in Libya in early 90's. He was in civil aerospace industry and he got to maintain Gaddafi airplane. His biggest fear was that he was working in a country that had no human rights. He was ready to leave any day. He was there for the money (Gaddafi paid them very very well) but he knew it could end any day and he might not come back home. He took the risk.
So you all know you are going into country that had no human rights. You are there for the money (mostly) or adventure. Deal with it.
Very true, that's how authoritarian countries work, let's leave china to stew in its own mess
I'm an ESL teacher and I'm leaving China! One of the best decisions I could ever make! :)
Where were you teaching?
Could you elaborate? I'm about to move there as an ESL Teacher! Arghh
What James said
@@jameseamonncollins1131 consider Vietnam
@@jameseamonncollins1131 Did you move to China or did the pandemic prevent you from going?
This is old news. I work for a Canadian company that in the 1990s chose to invest heavily in the Chinese market. They opened a large, brand new, very advanced plant which they equipped with the world's most advanced technology in their particular field and hired and trained locals. For publicity they sponsored TV documentary shows , river cruises, the works. Then one day, poof!, just like that, it became impossible to sell or distribute their product. Money started haemorrhaging. This went on for a while until it could no longer continue. The company cut its losses and sold the whole enterprise to Chinese interests for a symbolic amount. Miraculously, production and sales restarted and today, building on this stolen (let's call a spade a spade) technology, China has become the world's largest producer of this field.
not much loyalty from the company or owner so expect so from other?
CaptHollister About the same time, a Chinese manufacturing company was in trouble and announced their wish for foreign investment. An Australian answered, the deal was that, he would buy half the company and run it for five years, then he'd sell his half back to them and leave. Soon after the company was back on track and making good profit. Five years later he took his half share - which was a substantial amount - and went home, and soon after the company was off the rails again losing loads of money. They asked him to go back for the same deal, but he said, he'd prefer to work there as an employee for three years, but for a massive paycheck. So off he went and the company was making money again.
Then the powers-that-be at the company decided to screw him over; the cops had him arrested, and during his detention, a new law was rushed through the system to make him guilty of whatever, and he as charged under that very law, and was sentenced to life imprisonment. He was freed after quite a few years though.
As a fellow Australian I can't help but suspect that the company was angry about a foreigner who's able to do what they could not do, being the Chinese master race notwithstanding. But their ability to set off that chain of event that led to his conviction and incarceration can say something about the country nonetheless.
Can you name the company, plz?
@@zhaoxunyan4016 I cannot recall off-hand, but a quick search on Google showed no shortage of Australians getting jailed in China for dubious reasons.
@@Aleth86 You have no idea what you are talking about.
Growing your economy by building cities no one lives in and airports no one flies to was always going to end badly. China’s misuse of resources is frightening, having them involved in building nuclear plants in the uk is madness.
i'M SORRY THE WHAT PLANTS
EXCUSE ME, CHINAS BEEN BUILDING NUCLEAR PLANTS HERE?? SERIOUSLY, YOU GOT A SOURCE? ITS CONCERNING ME
I live in Thailand and it is getting harder to live here as well. It is like the Thai government does not want foreigners here either. I am ready to leave too.
Too many foreigners are bad they influence the culture and the people visiting is ok but living there is stepping on their toes. Ive even read articles about Thailand getting tired of foreigners in their country .
ผมก็ยังเห็นฝรั่งไปอยู่เมืองไทย ผมยังไม่เห็นปัญหาของข้อกฤหมายที่ขัดขวางคนต่างชาติเข้าเมือง ตอนนี้มีคนต่างชาติเยอะแยะไปหมด คุณคงไปเกี่ยวข้องกับกลุ่มการเมืองหรือเปล่า เลยมีปัญหา อีกอย่าง เมืองไทยปกครองแบบประชาธิปไตยโดยมีพระมหากษัตริย์เป็นประมุข ถ้าไม่ได้เข้าไปเกี่ยวข้องกับกลุ่มที่จะล้มล้างการปกครองของประเทศ ก็ไม่น่าจะมีปัญหา ที่สงสัยแบบนี้เพราะ ระยะหลัง มักมีคนต่างชาติเข้ามายุ่งเกี่ยวกับกิจการบ้านเมืองของไทย ทั้ง ๆ ที่ไม่ใช่คนไทย
It’s an over rated shithole anyway
They don't. Thailand is asking expats to leave even if retirement which is good investment for Thai as not taking jobs but just spending. Thai is owned by china now.
I left Thailand after living there for 8 years. When I left it wasn't as bad as it is now. Yeah, they do not want farang there long term.
Thanks for this completely unbiased video straight from the streets. Hearing what the real people think, this video brings tears to my eyes.
I've lived in China for 5 years.. i dedicated my time to learning Tibetan Language and started a non-profit to distribute their rare herbal formulas from the himalayas to the west, and we take the profits to restore their ancient temples and structures that the government tries to destroy.. But on Jan 25 i will be leaving China for good, never to return again.. i cant go anywhere with my Tibetan friends without being stopped by police, searched and even called a terrorist by local Chinese for supporting the Tibetan people.. I could go on for days and day about why i will never return to China honestly..
How did you manage to get permission to live in that part of the country? I've had difficulty even getting there.
should see my video i made in tibet
This whole comments section is basically ppl shit-talking their ex. I mean, nobody forced these folks into china, and many do business/work fine there; sometimes things don't work out like any relationship, but the real judge of character is how people choose to present failed relationships.
@Basil Rathbonez If you've actually read anything substantive on tibet you'd know that they declared independence at behest of the british & friends while china was ravaged by the same occupying powers. You'd also know that tibet was a religious feudal society akin to medieval europe, not some freedum utopia. The CCP is what it is, a ruling oligarchy using whatever tools at its disposal to keep in power; the world isn't a rosy place that they teach simpletons. It's really hilarious when ignoramus try to "educate" the actually educated by spewing western agitprop.
@@agenthex You've probably never been to China or stepped foot on Tibetan soil, so to speak with such anger and hatred to people you don't know makes you no less of an "ignoramus"..
Now that China got what they want from foreigners and their manufacturers, they have less use for them. I have always thought that it is very short sighted of companies to manufacture in China. China has consistently been reverse engineering the designs and manufacturing process and bringing to market their own competing products. Now all of these companies have more competition to face coming from China.
I used to work for GM as a software developer and we took some steps to protect our IP from reverse engineering during manufacture in China, such as encrypting vehicle firmware. But still you see China's brands continuing to use more and more of our technology, and more and more likely there will be some break out Chinese car brand in the US. I wouldn't be surprised if GM goes bankrupt again thanks to a Chinese car brand that they helped bootstrap.
Look at SsangYong or however the fuck you spell it. A good friend of mine (He's a mechanic) works at an "MG" main dealer and they are most of their work these days. All they are (From my knowledge) are chevrolet clones. Even as a HGV Mechanic myself, I am noticing more and more Hino trucks, which are Japanese(But, from what I can tell, mostly soured from China), creeping into the industry, although, on the truck side of things, many firms stick to one name brand. It's a shame to see our technology stolen without repercussion, due to their shitty government and ways but also the greedy business men who do not care for us, or realise what will happen. As far as I'm concerned, fuck them.
Which is a shame, because it's an astonishingly beautiful country for the most part.
Leave it to westerner countries, especially america, to give the chinese access to all their best technology for cheaper labor. After all what could go wrong?
You mean, got what they needed to steal, right?
Their mistake.
Such theft encourages new development from their victims, which they will NOT be allowed to see.
@@devilslayerthesaintofkille1317 We Western countrys could just move the factorys to cheaper country's :P india indonesia thailand ect ect few years ago Geox nike and a few other brands moved the factory's to shave on wages ...lots of stuff you can do in china you can do in a other country as well. only problem is you lose access to the Chinese market . but i expect a huge economic crash to happen in china in the next few years .
Nah, the Big 3 have huge influence via all their hundreds of thousands of employees and all the money they make. The government would be lobbied until they prevented the import of the Chinese car brand.
Move to Kuala Lumpur. Large Chinese population and freedom. Get out while you can. Winds of war are blowing. Take the hint and leave while you can.
Living in a Muslim country?
That's what the Rabbi told my Grand mother in early 1938.
My Grand mother took her 4 children - 3 daughters and her son.
The daughter who was then age 5 later became my mother.
They traveled to Tehran - IRAN
Grandfather stayed behind to give the appearance that all was normal.
He was picked up by the Gestapo whilst attempting to leave some six weeks later.
__ People would give anyone up to the Gestapo for the reward of DM.
SO .. Best to leave as early as possible.
The world is again becoming unstable.
Corporate Greed and Debt created by capitalism is the major cause, as it creates a
big division between the working class and the corporate class ...
Those that HAVE and those that HAVE NOT.
@@andrew_koala2974 sorry about your grandfather, sounds like a great man
Just curious David, where ya from?
@@slomo4672 Yeah its a secular Muslim country. Its not bad but not great either. It has its own fair share of racial issues here like any other country. In Malaysia the Malays (majority race) treat Chinese and the other races here like 2nd class citizens HOWEVER I would still stay here then China.
Stumbled upon this video. So cool, a very unique approach to video blogging. I love that it’s happening while you’re cruising on the motor bikes. Genius, really.
C-Milk’s average speed this trip = 0 kph
nothing a good beating 3:56 could not fix
munchkin42 I leave that up for interpretation 😉
+Legionitalia, writes _"C-Milk’s average speed this trip = 0 kph"_
I knew these guys weren't really riding around and just using a green screen -- this is proof!
The odometers were probably 'made in China.'
tail light also behaving oddly..
The speedo actually works perfectly, but when the bike detects the rider is not wearing gloves it just assumes the rider is still getting ready and this speed data coming up the cable must be an error, because obviously no one would be crazy enough to ride around on the road in China or anywhere else without gloves. The ECU is basically saying "Does.... not.... compute"
Makes me love my BMW scooter all the more! At least it doesn't tell me how to drive!
tosgem - never mind gloves, he isn't even wearing long pants. Stupid...cover that skin.
ecu is throwing a failing brain code
It needs calibrated to detect the difference between a strike from an un-gloved hand vs. gloved hand.
@@Staromil Chinese asphalt CAN melt white skin.
The USA State Department has issued a advisory warning for citizens to avoid going to china at this time.
Wow I didn't know that
Yes, good riddance to bad rubbish.
Yep and The media call Trump "racist" for it...
Woke people will still love China, because the US is so bad in everything.
Yo, C-Milk, I almost lost my thumb in a motorcycle wreck.
Oh, forgot to mention, I wasn't wearing gloves.
C-Milk, you should be wearing gloves! (Did I do it right?)
No, you were supposed to give him some feces!
Have some respect for Winston's wishes, man.
Here you go, C-Milk:
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Right on
perfect 👍
C-MILK, No gloves, Shorts, please tell me you weren't wearing Sandals?
I myself live and work in China (little insulted because I actually work for EF) and I'm in a long term relationship with a Chinese man. Everything you have discussed and pointed out I have seen or in some ways experienced, despite your generalization of being "an airhead ESL teacher". I came here with a real love, respect and drive to live here long term. I regularly have this discussion about what businesses can do to try to help foreigners feel more welcome and able to integrate into life here. Each month it becomes more difficult. I regularly encounter not being able to rent an apartment in my city or even stay in a hotel while traveling because I'm a foreigner. I've been struggling like many others have mentioned to send money home and my boyfriend and I have the discussion all the time about what we will do when our kids are old enough for school. Not all of us ESL teachers are young, dumb and clueless.
Loved my visit to Taiwan, beautiful country.
Really enjoying the exploration of more politically sensative subjects lately. China is so interesting and its important to view it from every angle.
You guys do a great job being measured and adding a personal account to your subjects
My favorite place in china is:
The international departures terminal.
cnordegren I’m married to a Chinese citizen and we have a daughter and, thanks God, we live in Spain, but I still have to go through all the Chinese bullshit once a year and whenever any of her family members ask me “what do you like the most from China?”, my first thought is always what you posted! Of course, I try to be polite, smile, swallow my thoughts and mumble some tourist attraction I have 0 interest on.
biased reporting results in biased audience.
Zhaoxun Yan Not at all. I approached China with the best intentions and the best will, but the country beats you down mercilessly. Every daily activity is a chorus: from taking metro, where everyone tries to stomp in and out without any consideration, general hygiene, endless burocracy for everything, lawless traffic and the list goes on and on...But you see, I’m married to an amazing Chinese woman that compensates all this and at the end, I just visit China for a couple of weeks a year. When I’m there, I just try to remain as still and quiet as possible and pray for the moment to get the hell out of there as soon as possible and go on with our life without having to ask consent to the Communist Party.
J G 😂 😂 😂 It does, since everyone watches movies without using headset, the reduced offer of restaurants, the non-existan international book store (maybe I’m just too spoiled) and the permanent lack of efficiency, but at least I feel excited to come back to daily life and be able to read the news and access TH-cam.
tokorojj : My favorite is this golden oldie “Chinese people are nice, aren’t they”. I omitted the question mark, because it’s asked in the vein of a statement or a rhetorical question.
Great vid with tremendous importance. Time to go boys. Time to go.
Just left China myself. Many reasons, but growing hostility towards foreigners and a worthless justice system are up there as to why
Jamie Lennon here ! We love you and we want to see you safe with your families safe
Road rash sucks buddy, get those gloves on .
It's not just the threat of laying it down either; taking a flung rock in the knuckles will sting like the dickens.
This channel is so good! I love the format and the information, immediately subbed.
"If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet."-- Matthew 10:14
Top notch commentary and analyses, guys. Thanks much. I made 6 trips into southern China myself back in the 2007-2009 time frame on behalf of a company I was working for at the time. I met many fine Chinese citizens who were hard working. I saw all of the things I'm seeing on your videos, and saw many Westerners there like myself. It doesn't surprise me, however, that many are now leaving as the Chinese Communist government's mindset is to be insular and fearful of continued Western influences. That mindset will eventually cause their own collapse and the continued impoverishment of their own people. Sad, but true.
@Jeff Smith Enjoying yourself?
Jeff Smith -- I seriously hope China doesn’t repeat the mistakes of it’s past. Almost every dynasty China fell into decline after the conservative closed mindset began to take over. Tang Dynasty, Ming dynasty, Qing Dynasty.. xenophobia and growing oppression...it’s a never ending cycle. Starts with a lot of pride, then lags behind and when outsiders bully you, China always takes it out on its own people and blame it on others, instead of learning what it’s falling behind in and self improvement by learning from others. I truly hope the next Generation of young Chinese will change Chinese society for the better. Insular mindset will never be the answer. A truly powerful nation isn’t afraid of criticism, Hope China can come to that point.
Charles Cxgo if a tenth of the young generation Chinese think the way you do my country will have hope. It is hard to have a correct world view in a nation where almost everything is censored and restricted. My hope is on the children of the rich and powerful because they get the chance to go out and learn in a more advanced culture. Only they have enough power and resource to make a change.
@@charlescxgo7629 Totally agreed, and is the positive mindset to take to move forward with the rest of the world.
My Chinese wife (me white) and I will be leaving China soon. We're selling our apartment and moving back to USA. Not that we don't love China, on the contrary. We're leaving for all the reasons you described. My wife is a University professor, from my personnel experiance I can vouch for what you're saying. Great video was in Hualien in 2016 loved it.
^ really the sort of conversation to be expected between expats and nationalists when it comes to foreigners.
I lived there in the early 2000's....I realized that marrying into a Chinese family is the only way you can advance as a foreigner, long term, in China.
@@johnsain - You are always still a foreigner. Your mixed children will never be seen as anything but a foreigner's bastards. The Chinese will be friendly and polite while their rulers are acting friendly and polite. Then one morning everything will be 180° opposite. It will then be "hate the foreign devils day" until the rulers turn the friendly and polite face on again.
No offense, but how'd you marry a Chinese professor? Pointing out you're white is kind of an odd thing to add mid sentence in the wrong place. Also: 1) personnel? 2) experiance? Sorry to pick on you. I'm just agitated these days because I've been struggling to get an ESL job in China. I have the degree, the tefl, and old experience before my degree. I'd go to Vietnam or something, but I've heard getting a public school or university job is impossible.
IntrepidEv personnel= US public education
Thanks for sharing, always good to hear new points of view
Really enjoyed this video, and I hugely respect what you have to say. It's very interesting, fair and honest. Greetings from Canada
I left Shenzhen a year and a half ago, after having lived there for almost 5 years. There were two main reasons. First and foremost was my health. I developed a brutal chronic cough that only got worse in China. Secondly, it became 100% illegal for me to sing songs for side cash in China. I had a legit work Visa and taught music at some of the top international schools in Shenzhen. However, even with this Visa, I could not legally make side money performing music in China. Basically, I had to choose between my health and my music or life in China. I guess there is one more reason - home ownership. It's quite difficult owning property in China as a foreigner. Now I own something with my brother in Chicago, something that was nearly impossible for me in Shenzhen as a single foreigner.
Really? A chronic cough from Shenzhen? I live in Xuzhou and the pollution up here is normally double Shenzhen's and peaks at 5 times Shenzhen. There are things you can do you know, buy a mask with filters for going outside and get an air purifier for your home.
Hard for single foreigners to buy, that’s right. Easy if you got married to a Chinese. Knowing that it doesn’t make it yours neither, eventhough you can use it as ling as you’re married if some day you’ll have to divorce with your wife, there is only very few chance that government let you have your part of the apartment you bought along with your wife. Unless she wants to be fair and give it to you, but it never happens like that.
@@jonprue4202 It is the disease of jungle weather. The very southern part of China is so hot and humid that I, as a Northern Chinese, do not dare to live there. Although the sky of Shenzhen is far much clearer than Beijing, as clear as that in HK.
@@jonprue4202 I don't know that having to wear a gas mask is the ideal environment to be living in...
@@aaronhammerling9739 The air quality isn't constantly bad, it's only a few days a month where I have worn my mask to go out and it's also only a seasonal thing. During the winter they burn coal in the factories and in 2-3 months it won't even be an issue. So it's just a small inconvenience to deal with in order to reap all of the benefits.
Yep, I was there off and on for about a decade. Speak Chinese fluently, but left it all about 4 months ago. It's just a land of headaches and endless BS. There is no peace living in China, only constant haggling and frustration at every corner. There are so many happier places in the world. I feel the only people who "like" it are either lying to themselves or are truly delusional. Not a lot to like.
Graham, there's a lot to like if you've been working the same job in your own country for over a decade without a chance to make any savings. China is bringing my dignity back, for which I'm deeply grateful. Not all of us come from countries with stable economies.
Graham Salzer can’t agree more. As a Chinese. I’m like you said, constantly lying to myself, that things will improve. But it just won’t in the short term. Thinking about immigrating too. I wish it could be easier. But now country of the world are setting up higher and higher barriers. Struggling.
Alex lucky you.
i liked the scenery in Nanjing and my electric motorcycle. thats it! ...okay, cheap massages too.
That can be different for each individual, some people live their life with happiness and never see anything bad, which for them is enough to make em love China and will follow whatever they are told by government.
I really enjoy your guys conversations... I lived in china about 10 years ago. I had a small manufacturing businesses and loved my time there but I'm glad I didn't stay.... I really feel sorry for the people who invested everything they had to make a life in China.
Thank you for the insight! I am an ESL teacher in an International School in Chiang Mai, Thailand. We have a lot of teachers who have come from China to teach (including Chinese natives). Visa issues still abound here in Thailand. It was good to get some perspective from you two.
I love the editing of these videos.
New taxation legislation is one of the biggest reasons.
Beginning January 1, 2019, an individual who resides in China for 183-days or more will be considered a tax resident and be liable to PRC IIT on their global income.
Everything you have posted is true regarding healthcare, visa issues and education, I have been living in Guangdong province since 2007 and the downturn of the electronics industry has also been devastating to foreign investors in Dongguan, coupled with the rising salary levels.
The new Global tax will be the final nail in the coffin I believe, You shall have to pay tax in your home country as well as China now.
Stay safe.
Global tax? It's been a law in USA for years that you pay tax in both countries. Also, as far as I remember, before 2019 you were taxed in China. So, I don't really understand why you are hanging on the tax change unless you're making bank? If I had that kind of money flowing into my pocket, I definitely would move to greener pastures. China's a good place to start, I'd invest some of my money into projects to improve China and the rest into starting a new life elsewhere.
IntrepidEv For US citizens. If you are a foreigner not living in China anymore and having to pay their tax still....that’s a bit weird no? Unless I misunderstood the OP
I'm in China now and am seriously thinking about leaving. Your discussion here is fascinating and helpful; I had no idea there was a trend of foreigners leaving and I'm very glad I stumbled on this video. I absorbed every word of what both of you said like a dry sponge. Aside from the content of your discussion, the format is superb: on bikes passing through beautiful countryside, excellent audio and visual combined. Sure beats sitting in a room without a view.
Taiwan or Republic Of China is the real China, who inherited the true Chinese culture, there is all freedom, human rights and traditional Chinese culture there. Not mainland China basically a son of Russian Socialist dictator. Hope you enjoy living in Taiwan.
I was in China from 09-11 and then again from 13-14. I noticed the change in 2014 myself. I had my visa denied, a Chinese company wanted to hire me as an international sales person at a steel company to give their company a foreign face to make their foreign partners more comfortable. If it’s an international company you want international people. I was denied it for some reason and I had gone to graduate school for this stuff so I was qualified. I’d say things started turning right around the time I left. I loved china but I’m glad I went when I did and I’m glad I left. I still miss it but I’m happy where I am now back in America
Must've been easy getting a job with your major. I was there same time as you, but now my friends that are leaving are saying things changed drastically over the past 5 years. My global studies degree is worthless in US until I pair it with an MBA or something. ESL and cost of living in China allows me to save money faster so I can get another degree online. Unfortunately, I'm struggling to find a school that will take me. Very different from 2009 when I had schools and agents sending me 50 emails a day trying to hire me.
@@MegaMerlin2011 Wow interesting. I mean the part of receiving so many offers. I guess that was cool
Quique Dillon it's cool, but I didn't have the documents back then for a work visa. if you go to China and search the job boards just email the agents. 1 email. next thing you know you're getting job postings every month fill up your inbox
@@MegaMerlin2011 !
I think it started even earlier man, like 2011-ish. That's when there was a lot of chatter about "too many undesirable foreigners" who were mostly unemployed grads from the recession still hanging around and they started changing and limited visas for foreigners. Miss the old days, it was like the wild west (or east?). It's not like that anymore.
I have been in China for 5 years now, and it feels relieving that someone is talking about it, I don't feel alone anymore. I actually want to leave as soon as I can... Thank's for this video !
This is a really important issue to get out in the open and I'm glad someone is able to speak frankly about these things. It's been an ongoing issue for me, but what's weighing heavily on my heart right now is the undeniable fact that there are still people in this world that outright refuse to wear gloves out in the elements. I just can't wrap my mind around the choices some people are making these days. To 2019, hope it's not the last.
I love watching you guys ..definitely opened my eyes to what is really happening right now.
Please, Taiwan, don't give up. We need you.
Happy new year you beautiful people. Keep staying awesome
Foreigners leaving China? How about the Chinese leaving China? Many reasons you described regarding why foreigners are leaving China are the same reasons Chinese are leaving China!! Have you been to New York City? There’s a section in NYC called Flushing (where I live). It is now a full fledged Chinatown. Construction is unbelievable. All over the place. Who’s buying the majority of the condos? The Chinese from China. Why are they coming? To invest bc it’s not easy in China. And for education. And a better life.
australia now has 1 million chinese immigrants
This is a big part of the Chinese government's plan. They block the entrance of foreigners into Chinese markets whilst encouraging Chinese to go to countries with freeish markets to buy property and businesses. Local people, who have been blocked from saving due to high taxes over years and years, are then blocked from entering markets in their own countries. Voila, China is in control. Make no bones, these Chinese immigrants have no loyalty to their host countries and are only interested in ultimately imposing political and economic control. My country, New Zealand, has been very naive and we will regret it (are already in fact). The Chinese actually come here and say how stupud we are; not only do we let them take over but we also offer welfare benefits to people who have contributed little or nothing to our society.
@@wenshu888
there certainly seems to be that chinese thing with loyalty. they come to the west for a better life, more freedom, more safety, etc, but then they seem to be very easily coerced into spying on the fellow chinese and other citizens in their new home.
personally i think the mainland chinese government looks at foreign countries, peoples as just to be exploited. which ever way.
@islam is best You're muslim too? If so, this is how people talk about your people as well... don't want to propagate that mentality against yourself.
Nice deflection.
Your videos are awesome and so informative. Good stuff.
Really enjoyed your video; incredibly informative. Thank you.
Totally agree, when the people who immigrate to China who have invested years of their lives into China are suddenly emigrating from China, you know something is wrong. In general, if people are leaving your country, you're doing something wrong. If people are lining up to come to your country, you know you're doing something right (or at least, you're doing something better than the countries around you).
A huge part recent years in China is that foreign-company-favored policies were gone gradually and trade war this year also stimulated the tension.
@@zhongxuanhou2727 China has never favored foreign companies. They welcome them, steal their technologies, then drive them out of business with lower prices. This tension has existed all the time on the Western side. China is only beginning to get a taste (a very small taste) of what they've done to the Western economies.
@@jeffreykalb9752 Western elites sold out their countries and working classes for a Chinese lie. No wonder the USA is on the verge of a USSR style collapse.
I never grow tired of ADVChina's "theme song"
I remember youuuuu
is this a meme?
Yes, very catchy!
Yep
It's terrible! And gay!
My children and myself love listening to your show it's very informational thank you for gearing it two younger students who want to learn about China
I left Taiwan recently, and these videos are making me miss the place! Wish I could ride a scooter in the mountain areas again :)
co-worker just lost his job... boss walked by and didn't mind the video, but then he noticed C-Milk had no gloves on.
RIP
(that's all on you, C-Milk...)
NSFW (Not Safe for Wriding)
March 2018, I lost a court battle in Beijing between my former Chinese business partners and I. Upon exiting the company, I didn't walk away empty handed but my former business partners made it difficult for me to establish another business in the same industry with threats of legal action etc... I exited China on Christmas Eve on a permanent basis. On Christmas Day the majority of my former business competitors received a present consisting of all the data files from my former business. STALEMATE.
I don't feel sorry for you as you went to china to exploit cheap labor and pocket the difference
@@bapluda don't such a moron because you don't know the in's and out's nor what the concept was all about so don't jump to conclusions without facts and for information the labor was conducted by myself...
@ not to reply to comments from members of the 50 cent army
Totally off topic but I must admit everytime you guys say "stay awesome" It does actually bring a smile to my face. Y'all rock thank you for the informative and entertaining content. You 2 have created 3 of the best channels on youtube in my not so humble opinion. HAPPY PEOPLE ROCK DIGGIT
I’m concerned about the future of Hong Kong... will it be as friendly to foreigners 10 years. From now?
No
Paul Kiely definitely not
I wouldn't count on it.
100% no
@Zxsb yeah he is a real idiot
Matt, I’ve been involved with bikes all my life as my grandparents were the founders and owners of a motor racing circuit (mainly motorcycles) here in Lincolnshire, England (up until the early 1980’s). As a baby I travelled on my mothers knee in my Dadda’s sidecar and when I was 5, I was gifted my first helmet so I could be his official pillion. He ALWAYS enforced wearing the proper gear. Helmets were so heavy in those days and my dad looked like an astronaut 👨🚀 in his! I was so proud and went everywhere with him. He made me wear gloves and protective gear as he would drum into my head what it was like to lose a lot of skin in an accident (he spent a lot of his childhood in the 1940’s and 50’s in hospital after coming off his childhood pedal bike, burning off his skin, riding like a bat out of hell on a local hill). I have in turn passed the “wear all the gear” message to my children who are all bikers and I even wear the kit when out on my road legal 800cc Quad ATV.
I see you aren’t just without gloves, but you’re wearing bloody shorts! Are you crazy man? You’re a husband and father and it’s therefore in your interests to keep yourself as protected as possible in Jeans with Kevlar, perhaps armour and an armoured jacket too. Gear is so much lighter in weight, and price than it used to be. Keep your skin covered or be prepared to lose it! You’re foolish to put yourself at risk, especially if you end up in an Asian hospital, your wounds would never stay clean and heal so wise up!
Word.
Except for Taiwan has some of the best hospitals and doctors in the world!
mrtaoroo Taiwan seems a lot better all round. It’d be great if the fellas took their whole operation and lives to Taiwan so we could learn about there. I’ve learned shit loads about China. I’ll never go there but it’s interesting . I’d be just as interested in learning the same about Taiwan. Whenever I see Prozzies vids, they seem to be about China even though he and Kristine have moved.
Frogzilla, valuable safety information but you are way off the topic.
@@billwilson6096 He's not really, there were several pop-up messages throughout the video asking viewers to give Matt hell for not wearing gloves.
I have been traveling to China for 3 years but with the current trade war and reports I am hearing about China I have lost all desire to visit China. This Spring I am going to Taiwan, Thailand and Singapore. I even have a new Chinese visa and now I don't plan on using it. I love the people of China but lost all respect for the Government
Herb Halling; You are wise.
that’s literally 1.65 billion people.
Your disrespect is well-founded
Super great insights, thank you.
This is quite the video to come back to after their stories of having to flee China. Everything was 100% on point.
I have to disagree with what you said about ESL teachers... I do “understand what’s going on” around me... and I’m watching this video for that exact reason. The visa process is absolutely bonkers. It’s practically impossible to integrate myself into this culture, because as that article said “I’ll never be Chinese”. Hong Kong is easy, Philippines is easy, Indonesia is easy, but absolutely everything in China is so damn difficult and working with Chinese people can be really awful sometimes. And they’ll treat Americans like they’re stupid too which makes it even worse. I’m regretting my lengthy contract and wishing I signed somewhere else.
I am learning the language, I am exploring the country and trying to integrate... As is every other ESL teacher I know here... Definitely disagree with what you said and feel a little offended by it. I wouldn’t be here if I wasn’t interested in Chinese culture, the Chinese way of life and language.
I can’t even begin to tell you the difficulties I’ve experienced but of course I don’t have to tell you, you know already... As an ESL teacher I’m absolutely effected by all of this.
Still watching as I’m updating this comment. I see what you’re saying, sure ESL teachers or travel bloggers will leave, but you’re really talking about those who are more invested in China. I’ll be here for 2 years and when I first got here I thought, “I could stay for more than 2 years”, but now I don’t want to.
“Are Chinese people crybullies”, heck yes they cry to get anything they want. A woman cries, the man will give her anything.
Zac Vaughn, the Chinese don't want you to integrate. They believe that they are superior to you and they will keep at arm's length or further. You will find that as your Chinese gets better and better people with any degree of English will refuse to speak with you in Chinese. If you can find a genuine and loving partner though, that will really help with everything. If you have a genuine partner you will have a most loyal companion
You know ESL teachers get paid way more for just either being Caucasian or speaking English natively over many much much more qualified individuals who have worked and proven their merit in the workforce there? It’s natural for dissent to happen mate.
Yet the Chinese were stupid enough to go communist. There’s nothing more idiotic than embracing communism, which amounts only to equalized misery (except for the party elites.)
@@JeremiahAlphonsus What an asshole statement. Communism was imposed upon the Chinese. If you are going to troll at least use a bit of intelegance and class going about it. Stop talking out of your ass.
Run.
These guys make China look like an interesting adventure even though I know I shouldn't go.
Taiwan in this case
They are just talking bullshit. This exodus bs is an ongoing topic for years now. Fact is more and more foreigner are comming to china and also successfully creating companies. I personally know some of these guys.
@@toom2141 I don't know enough to agree or disgree with you
you'll be fine as a visitor. they said as much in recent videos. they're more talking about foreigners living in china with family and business ties.
@Joe Blow You're cool
I really like the way you guys film this video, travelling through a rural passage and revealing to us a interesting landscape of countryside. Drive afely and Stay Awesome. 🙏🌷
Great vid! I’m an American living in Japan and I can say this country is super kind to us. Been here 27 years...
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Can I ask you a question Peter?
@@kappadarwin9476 You just did Poindexter
Weeaboo!
@@suicasenpai do you get laid a lot there?
China is going back to its old ways in the 1970s and 80s. I know because I was there in the 70s and 80s.
America is going back to it's old ways 1920's style
@r464g That must have been an incredible experience.
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Good times for some (bad time to be Chinese in America) Your next depression is just around the corner so today is just like the 20's
@@castorchua THat could be a good thing. Out of the depression came the worlds most powerful nation.
China never left their old ways they just played a game of bait and switch with the west. Now they've made western economies dependent on them and created real estate bubbles everywhere by having their citizens buy up property in the UK, Canada, Australia and the US they're about to slow their economy and bring the west to their knees.
That statue represents aborigines who lived on the east coast of Taiwan. They were expert seafarers.
Nice info. Now China may lay claim to Australia, since there must have been an ancient Chinese dude travelling with them and propose ownership through maps and travel logs
@@FvFurz hahaha
@@mrtaoroo now the 9 dash line has to be expanded into a 18 dash line (random number, just as 一八 yao ba, want luck, or 45 immortal)
My wife and I were in Hualien a couple weeks ago. While there, I started to notice a strange language on some of the signs, not Chinese, not English. Almost like Malay or Tagalog. Then I saw a TV news show where the anchor was dressed in Taiwanese Aboriginal clothing. At the bottom of the screen were captions in the same language, so I guessed it must be the Taiwanese aboriginal language.
@@telegraphdude6823 Probably Ami tribe language . There are something like 14 tribes in Taiwan. Polynesians ancestors come from Taiwan.
Of you visit Hualien at certain times of year you can see their festivals and dances.
great show once again.
I love you insights and videos! I lived in China for one year and 7 years in Hong Kong so I agree with you. Thank you for your honestly!
I was born and raised in China and came to Canada. I now hold a Canadian passport and speak perfectly fluent Chinese. But even I am paranoid when I'm visiting my extended family in China. There are just so much information you have to fill out everyone. You almost can't do anything without linking it to your ID or your phone number, which is linked to your ID, anymore.
They probably see you as a traitor.
@@jackb8469 nobody sees what passport I hold. It's just my own discomfort being watched everywhere and every app requiring access to everything
LOL they don't want you in Canada, don't you morons see how they speak of you there? LMFAO, according to these white people, Chinese are the only ones that are racist not the white men. God forbid you buy property there, you therefore must be a Communist party member whos corrupt!
@@steven1898 salty people everywhere no matter the race. Just gotta deal with it
You mean like submitting your phone and whatsapp chats at the US border, China is perhaps more over bearing in controlling everything but other governments are just doing the same, inescapable in this wired world! As long as we are radicals/extremists, we should be just fine!
Long live Tiki Tom. Thanks for the great and highly amusing content gentlemen
Ron Dean
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"They just go to class, they go buy their groceries, and they go home and watch movies on Netflix or something."
You literally just described my life in Japan...
Thats millions of peoples lives everywhere! hahaahha
You don't go for a beer or a good restaurant??! Tokyo seems to have plenty of good places to have a cold one. Well before covid19...
@@EyFmS Well, of course I go out for food & drink every now & then to break the monotony, but an average day is as described above.
@@rationsofladyfingers Yeah, I got you. Netflix has taken a good part of our lives isn't it :D. Where did the old days have gone? When we would sit in front of the fireplace and listen to our elders tell stories about the past.
Man, that was lame. I don't even have a fireplace.
@@EyFmS Me, neither. But I'd much rather be sitting in the warm orange glow of a fire, listening to the stories of elders than basking in the vision-destroying blue light of my laptop, bingeing TH-cam videos in the loneliness of my small apartment...
I ALWAYS go to you guys for the inside scoop of what's going on in China. Because I hear politics all the time. I like to hear what's true or not true. And even though I enjoy getting inside information from you two I long to see the day when you get to live and speak totally and completely free. Good video guys.
I think that China might be preparing for a big economic disaster. Authoritarian countries tend to be cyclical with periods of oppression followed by periods of relative freedom. The current freedom period in China has been driven by a very favorable export economy with western countries, but this is gradually coming to an end. Foreign businesses that were having their products made in China are now moving to other countries like India, where they can actually own businesses without a native partner owning 51% of the business. Also, a lot of western countries have wised up. They have realized how detrimental over-regulation of domestic businesses has been to their local economies. This is leading to a lot of deregulation, even in European countries. In short, fewer foreign entities are choosing to do business in China. Even worse, the technology of manufacturing is gradually becoming less and less dependant on cheap, skilled human labor -- China's claim to fame. The watch phrase that guides a lot of manufacturing companies these days is: "Automate or die." Typically, countries like China want to start moving foreigners out when trouble is on the horizon. If you will remember, during the Tian'an Men massacre, China prepared by first expelling every foreigner from the country, which was probably a massive undertaking. Will there be another Cultural-Revolution-like event? I doubt it will be quite that severe, but something is in the offing. Remember, authentic and open economic information is not published in China. The only time that authoritarian countries publish negative economic information is when they want to use that information to manipulate people or events. A thousand economic dams could be ready to break in China, and nobody but select government insiders would even have a clue.
You guys left to avoid taxes.
Fuck you guys I hope they kick you out and take all your stuff. If your gonna build shit build it where you were raised and born and help the land you come from.
A massive Chinese currency devaluation is coming up soon.
@@Mageroeth you obviously have no clue...
@@haraldkonrad353 Nah I do I run an IT consulting firm and my friends were just like you guys.
Low taxes and the communist government is gonna help just move there you can do most the stuff remotely I was told, little to no taxes I was told, 30cents on hour labour for lvl 1-2 techs I was told, and this is when the gig economy was first getting steam.
Did I take my shit and leave my town hell no I had only 4 guys and all 4 them were more valuable to me then short term gain. So I stayed my ass in NY and paid my taxes and paid my guys a reasonable pay.
And you know what 2 of them just finished a there engineering degree within the company and I'm up to 7 guys now.
I have a clue the difference is I'm not a fucking sellout.
I mean china definitely has an enormous housing bubble. They talked about it before. It's just a question as to when it's going to burst not if.
I visited Taiwan for 30 days with a Christian orchestra and I found their people very nice and the country so beautiful. We visited a lot of churches all around the country. I didn't know how much more different Taiwan was from China. Thanks for informing us little by little in your videos!
Interesting perspectives shared.
I really think you guys are making Taiwan looks amazing! I enjoy every episode!
I know Taiwan is amazing by the products I get from there. They're always top notch way above the "other" people.
I really hope Taiwan remains an autonomous country (or "territory" since it gets the thin skinned chinese politicians furious). Your big neighbor is making big leaps backwards,
@Brandy WasayThe ancestors of Chinese from Taiwan, Singapore and Hong Kong were actually from the mainland, so how are they the REAL Chinese like you said?
Because they are not the thin skinned power grabbing politicians and sheep that follow them. They are the original, strong, resourceful and history conscious people of the old imperial systems that adapt to the changing world and take pride in their work. These are the true people who built the long standing Great Wall and not the slap dash layabouts that have been destroying the old buildings because they do not know how to fix them.
@Taiwanlight "there's more traditional Chinese culture in Taiwan"
Taiwan was ruled by Japan for more than 50 years prior to Han Chinese arrival. Furthermore there exists Taiwanese Aboriginal culture too in Taiwan, so how does Taiwan have more traditional Chinese culture than the mainland, when its being diluted by Japanese and Taiwanese Aboriginal culture?
According to UNESCO World Heritage Sites, *China ranks 2nd in the world in the number of World Heritage Sites* at 53, just behind Italy at 54. Many of China's cultural monuments still remain in the mainland, such as the Great Wall of China, the Grand Canal (world's longest artificial river), the Forbidden City, the Qin Emperor's Tomb, the Terracotta Warriors, and so on.
_List of World Heritage Sites in China_ wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Heritage_Sites_in_China
C-milk has no love for the glove.
He should be arrested for this atrocity!
Thats why C-Milk has 2 kids now and SerpentZA has none!
Very informative.
you guys have the greatest rapport