★ 2019 TRIUMPH TIGER 800 XRT REVIEW ★
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- A review on a triumph tiger 800 xrt
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Very nice bike. I have a 2015 Tiger XRX. 50,000 miles later, I still love it! Thanks for the review.
thanks for the comment glad to hear your tiger is going strong after 50,000 miles ! all the best mark
Thank you Mark for a fabulous review of my favorite bike!
no problem wes ! al the best mark
Yes, rode this exact model a few weeks ago, absolutely gorgeous bike. I almost bought one but came to my senses (out of my budget range).
yes agreed its a gorgeous bike but a little pricy at £12k+ for this model ,the tracer is more affordable i think ...mark
Have an XRt on order so pleased to see such a positive review.
Hi rob yes very good choice ,a good improvement over the 2015 model I tested MP
@@markpulling12 Just part ex my 1050 in for one ,here in a few weeks
Finally caved and bought one, pick it up next Saturday. Still love watching this review, one of the best around.
Brilliant bet you can't wait ,xrx or xrt ?
@@markpulling12 XRT, same colour as this video.
@@applecorp How's the new bike? I'm thinking of adding one to my garage. I currently ride a T120 which I love, but I really want a bike for some touring. Are you happy with yours?
@@wickedcoolname399 Yes, very happy. The overall smoothness and comfort make it ideal for touring, and of course the cruise control really helps.
Just bought an identical used bike after passing my license. Love it! Now to ride as much as possible before it gets too cold here in Norway!
Would love to visit norway someday good bike choice regards mark
I have a 2017 model XRT and love it just planning my 2nd trip to Spain this year.
What do you think about the off-road capabilities with the cast wheels?
Thank you so much for the video. That is a wonderful bike (and that colour is fantastic!). It seems Triumph have done their homework for this model with improvements everywhere it's needed. In particular the screen and the engine spin up. I really like as well that Triumph offer a Tiger model with fully adjustable suspension,as they should on a top model. I don't understand people who would buy a bike at this price without (cough BMW F850GS cough).
Great video. I have this exact bike! I feel the same way about the performance and ride. Love my twins as well, but this Tiger is just fantastic.
Yes Jeff it's one of my favorites
Mark
Great review!
Hi pete thanks
Having previously owned a Tiger Trail with on road/off-road capability I'd definitely go for the XCA/XCH variants. Never see the point in getting anything bigger, especially if you want to go off road. Definitely do that here in Australia. Like screen, handguards, centrestand. Only thing missing is shaft drive. I had that on a R80GS.
Thanks Andrew ! All the best mark
I think I would look at the Ducati 950 , I own a triumph 1050 sport and love it. I don't like the scaffolding for panniers the Ducati has a similar system to my bike which doesn't use scaffolding for the panniers. Triumph need to keep an eye on pricing sales will drop if they don't stay reasonable.
Very nice review. Been watching and learning all I can as I am drawn to the Tiger. Not because of the Netflix "Tiger King" well almost, but the road worthiness of the xr version and its beauty.
My 2018 Tiger xrx with full luggage to be delivered Mon 5/18/20. Can't wait. btw my bike has 703 miles. Sweet blue.
Thanks Richard great choice,the tiger 800 is one of my favorites All the best mark
Congrats, I've had my 2018 800 XRt for 9 months now, just about the best all round bike you can get. Have you been out on your bike yet?
Awesome color... It's my dream bike :(. Need to save!
Love my tiger
Nice bike love triumphs class
I test rode one at motorcycle live last year, but since we were in a group and in greasy conditions, I didn't get much opportunity to open her up.
Triumph great range of motorcycles sticking it too Japan!
Nice video. I traded my 2017 XRT in for an Africa Twin, as I was seduced by the character of the Honda 2-cylinder engine (really is quite a lovely hooligan bike). But I am now considering trading the Africa Twin back in for a 2018 XRT. The Triumph has to be one of the very best all-round bikes. It’s so well specced out of the factory, and there isn’t really anything it doesn’t do well, apart from hardcore off-road.
Hi have to agree I love the tiger 800 all the best mark
Have you gone back to the Triumph, or did you keep the Africa Twin after all? How did you like the 2018 XRT in comparison to the Honda?
Looks a great bike, I get to test the s1000XR tomorrow 😃 looking forward to it
Great stuff 👍 where are you testing the xr ?
@@markpulling12 it's actually mine that iv just repaired from auction 😃 but iv never rode one before so excited 😃
I rode one when they came out ,what a bike ,....that engine has immense power all the best MP
Bought this bike (silver, not blue) in 2019 and have not regretted a single moment!
Bought mine in 2019 too, 20 months later and still really happy with it. Not had a single problem either.
Aye Superb . Im getting a 62 Reg 800
Nice Review, looking into getting either the 800 or 1200 XR series (Depending on Budget), also if the 800's were shaft driven I would not even be considering the 1200. Yes I am now tired of chain maintenance, mainly due to the fact that I don't have the space to do much servicing and to doing it on the street side before every longish ride is annoying. Anyways enough rambling, what I really would like to see is a review of the 800 (or 1200) that also focuses on the experience when doing full day rides at least with a passenger, the seating positions etc. All the reviews I have seen are for single person ride how great the handling and comfort is, but to be fair I can manage 500 km for the day if I am alone on my naked bike but with a passenger then it becomes work instead of play after 150 aprox. If any one has a link to any reviews of the Tiger's that points out the riding experience with a passenger that would be great.
Thanks for the comment hopefully someone will comment soon on longer rides with a passenger on this bike , personally I find the only bikes that are effortless with a passenger for long rides are the likes of pan European ,fjr 1300 , triumph trophy 1200. All the best mark
Wait , there’s a triumph shaft driven?
I have this exact bike, and in a few ways I think it’s better than the Tiger 900 GT that replaced it.
Thanks for the comment alex ;)
I'd like to see you review the latest top spec Honda Africa twin as word is it's a great adventure touring bike designed primarily with genuine off road abilities out of the box, and as a secondary use, good on the road too(as you'd expect). No need for multiple variations depending on the weather like this, which I find confusing and unnecessary. If I buy any adventure tourer I want it to do it all from the get go as opposed to being a looky likey multi variant fashion item. Meow. Having said that I do like these triumphs but the honda, chain drive aside, is superb I've heard.
Yes I'm Keen to try one of those wight :)
Been riding this bike for just over a year. 12 thousand Km in the Austrian Alps and Italian Dolomites. Can’t fault it really. I make multi camera videos of most of my trips and I have rented many other models around the world as part of that. The Tiger triple engine is the only one that doesn’t give me vibration problems with mounted cameras. Also has the best wind protection of any bike I’ve ridden. Can ride at any speed with visor open in a bubble of calm 😁👍
Brilliant. You're lucky to ride such lovely roads all the best mark
mark pulling hi Mark, did you check out some of my ‘Great Biking Roads ‘ videos? Be a pleasure to show you around if you plan on coming to Upper Austria 😁👍
I did ,they look great :)
mark pulling hi Mark, any way of sending you a pm ?
Just bought a 2018 XRT, coming from a MT09 Tracer. It's down on power (obviously) but it's night and day in terms of refinement and comfort. No vibes at all (unlike the Tracer) and just so comfortable and chilled behind that great windscreen. Cruise control is a strange addiction, I now find myself clicking the button, obeying the speed limits and enjoying the scenery.
Picked one in Austin Texas this weekend and I love it. Ride position and windscreen make it very comfortable. Already drove it over 300 miles in one day and was super smooth ride. Got the panier kit which is also a must👍 if your on the fence just get it you'll be glad you did
Tempting proposition given the 900 is now out. There are still a few 800 xca pre registered that might come with a deal :)
Actually I'm a bit hesitating between the Tracer 900 GT and the VFR800X Crossrunner. But I'm leaning towards the Tiger...
I reviewed the crossrunner a few years ago (see my channel ) great bike but I too prefer the tiger :)
Another excellent review Mark, mighty obliged good sir! On your less than perfect roads which motorcycle offers a plusher/smoother ride on road, this Tiger XRT 800 or the V-Strom 650 you recently reviewed? I’m an older motorcycle operator riding the California backroads. Sometimes I like exploring and putting around narrow twisty less traveled roads at 15-30 mph, is the Tiger XRT suitable for low speed work or is it overly top heavy. I want a motorcycle more refined and freeway friendly than a Kawasaki KLR 650 enduro, hence I’ve got either the Tiger XR 800 or V-Strom 650 XT as my next ride.
Hi there ,id say the triumph xrt suspension is going to be better as in its higher spec more expensive ,the vstrom has more "basic " suspension and its several thousand pounds cheper here in the uk,that being said the vstom is brilliant value and you might find the money saving is more appealing to you thanks for getting in touch all the best MP
I'm 65 and have just added a tiger xrt to the garage along with my 17 Thruxton r. As much as I love Aesthetics of sport bikes I absolutely love practicalities of the xrt. Cruise, automatic turn signals, the windshield, heated seat all work beautifully. I do wish Triumph would upgrade its heated grips to BMW standards but I have nothing bad to say about the xrt. As much as I love the Aesthetics of sport bikes I absolutely love practicality of the SRT. Cruise automatic turn signals the windshield heated seat. all work beautifully I do wish Triumph would upgrade it's heated grips to BMW standards but I have nothing bad to say about this machine! slow roads, Backroads, Interstates, mountains. The Tiger does it all and well I think in great comfort.
Hi Mark, Great review. Thanks
I am torn between the Tiger 800 XRT and the Tracer 900 GT, that in my area cost more or less the same. Each time I see a review of either the scale is tilted to that side...I think I will have to toss a coin to decide.
I had a test drive on both the Yamaha Tracer 900 and the Triumph Tiger 800 and seemed pretty similar in rider feedback, they were both good, but for me did not stick out in anything special, I also tested the KTM 790 Adventure and the Ducati Multistrada 950 S that were a total blast to ride. But the Ducati is too expensive and as for the KTM I found it rather uncomfortable and also I have trust issues with KTM. Between Yamaha and Triumph I would pick Yamaha for reliability and Triumph for my British heart. Bugger.
I had a Tracer 900 (2015) and currently have a Tiger 800 XRT (2018). I traded my Tracer in for the Tiger as I couldn't live with the vibrations, apart from that though it was a great bike. The Tiger is smoother, less hooligan and more refined. Depends what you are after really.
Hi. Wich one did you buy? :))
@@aher89able I ended up getting the Ducati Multistrada, got an offer from the local dealer on a demo bike. Was a good bike, but I found it too bulky and big for me... so after only about a year I ended up selling it and started looking for a new bike all over again.
After testing many many bikes (this time I wanted something smaller and easy to handle), I ended up with the candidates: BMW R nine T, Triumph Speed Twin 900, Moto Guzzi VII Stone, Kawasaki Z900RS, Yamaha XSR900, Honda CB1000, ... kind of the modern classics. But then shifted more towards naked bikes, like the KTM 890 Duke, Ducati Monster 937, Yamaha MT09,... and my final main candidate, the Triumph Street Triple RS.
Most of the models I wanted, I could not test (not available in local dealers), like the Z900RS, R nine T, XSR 900 or the CB1000. I could test ride the VII Stone, Speed Twin 900, 890 Duke and the Monster 937.
Most of the bikes I liked my wife would find uncomfortable (I mostly go riding with her so it has to be acceptable for her).
For example the Yamaha MT09 I really liked but she said it was uncomfortable. The VII Stone I did not like. The Speed Twin 900 was good but a bit expensive, and I didn't like the retro look. The only bike my wife found comfortable that I liked were the KTM 890 Duke and the Ducati Monster 937. KTM I don't really trust as a brand.
So at the end I was down to the Ducati Monster 937 and my favourite the Street Triple RS... and after reaching an agreement with my wife, we went with a compromise between what we both wanted and got exactly what she wanted and ended up buying the Triumph Trident 660.
Liking it so far but sometimes I wish I had gotten a more powerful bike (does anyone want to trade a Street Triple RS for a wife?)
Sorry for so much verbosity.
I'm from Texas considering buying this bike. Would have appreciated if you opened the throttle a little more since here in Texas 60 - 70 miles per hour is a thing of the past. I own a cruiser 1300 and 80 - 100 is not that uncommon around here. Would like to see how this bike behaves at close to that speed. My cruiser has a little too much vibration at over 90, perhaps the fairing has to do with it. Otherwise, great video.
I own the XCA version. That's because I ride on a lot of dirt back roads & I'm 6'4" so I don't have any seat height issues. I agree with everything you say & would like to add that the lights work pretty good at night, the fog lights work well with one's peripheral vision. Great all round bike, yes you pay a premium, but it's quality. If I lived in the UK I'd be tempted to buy the XR rather than the XC. I also lowered the gearing further swopping the 16 for a 15 tooth front sprocket (3%) & added bar risers. Why because I ride up the dirt equivalent of Hardknott Pass in the Lake District regularly, with camping gear. It didn't seem to affect fuel consumption and adds about 300rpm on the freeway.
Thanks Bernie ! I know hardknott pass well all the best mark
Hi when you priced the different models you did not tell us what the most popular model the XRX costs????????????????????????????????
Hey Mark, I enjoyed this. Triumph triples do sound good, Ive only riden sports tourers with full fairings but maybe a midrange adv would be good. My thing is I dont have anywhere to keep a bike aprt from on the road, any ideas [obvious is move lol] Im still recovering from an rta but realy want to ride again👍
Hi mark sorry to hear about your rta ....a good mid range adv is the Honda cb500x ...cheap very economical and reliable
Cheers mark
Fabulous!
Hello fron Sao Paulo Brazil.
Thamkyou.
Joselito
Hi to you too tuta :)
Hi Mark, good review, overall this bike is excellent. Price is too expensive. It's worth for the beginner to buy with 200 updated? Pls advise
Hi asri it's a great bike but quite expensive ,maybe try the xr base model it's cheaper or a 2015 xrx all the best mark
GPS screen on dash or room for accessory one?
Had two test rides on this now. Seen a pre-owned 2018 with 4000 miles for £9,500. I'm a gnats whisker away from trading in my 2015 MT09 Tracer for it.
Do you think this triumphs engine is nicer than the mt09 ?
@@markpulling12 Definitely, but it depends what you want. I find the Tracer engine (and throttle/fuelling) far too aggressive as an everyday bike, it can pretend it's a tourer all it likes but it is basically the same as it's hooligan brother, the MT09 lol. The Tiger is so much more refined and for me that's what I'm after.
Love the Bike! Love the Color! Love the Brand!- BUT !!! what the hell is with the "RED" RPM color for the semi-circle as an indicator!! That would drive me mad as here in the U.S. - A lot of us folks are brought up thinking "Red" (Color) means over-rev, or No-Good, Overheat and on and on!! I wonder if you could change it via the software? This bike would be worth it anyhoo!! Good Review Mark!
Hi yes i would of thought you can change the screen colour via the software all the best mark
Once broken in, (past the 600 miles break- period) the rev counter turns to black. It's orange and red during break-in to help the rider not over-rev it. Had the same thing on my Tiger 1200, a nice feature.
@@rogerwalker1143 It's funny how so much information isn't actually conveyed by dealers or manuals. I bought a used 2018 XRT a few months back and knew nothing of this feature (as it had 4000 miles on the clock) and was confused by videos I've seen where they had orange/red rev counters as all I have seen is a solid blue on my bike. Now I know why, nice feature indeed.
Hey Mark, I'm interesting in the cruise control as well.. Can you try that on bikes that have it and comment on what you think of it? Thanks!
will do rob ill add it into my videos now ! all the best MP
works very well on the tiger 800. I use it all the time on transport sections. It displays the fact that it's on and the speed it is set to prominently on the dash. Brake, clutch or roll the throttle off to cancel.
@@berniebne8243 Thank you Bernie!
@@markpulling12 Thanks Mark!
Solid review! Which bike did you like better all things considered - Tiger 800 (in-line triple/heated seat/practical windscreen) or BMW 750gs (nicer TFT/quick shifter/cornering ABS)? If you had to choose one over the other which one would you take?
Hi paul ,the tiger is amazing but pricy at £12k+ whereas the bmw f750gs sport has everything too but comes in at £10.5K I believe with similar spec ,just need to change the stupid small screen,so i suppose the bmw would win on price alone ,they are both lovely to ride , some people will still pay for the triumph though,I get that because its got that wonderful engine ,maybe drop to the xrx model for less money at £10.7K all the best mark
What is the point of those gigantic litre+ machines? Isn't it just a pose?
Love the bike but hate the price 😉I wouldn't pay £12k for any 800cc bike when you look what's available for the same money or less. Great review thanks Mark 👍
Yes rather pricy at £12k Dave eek
@ Dave Barker - What would you list as alternatives?
@@markmottershead646 V-Strom 1000, VFR800X cross runner, Tiger sport 1050, Tracer 900, Z1000SX ... All cheaper and better value in my humble opinion but each to their own.
Dave Barker - Thanks. But if money was no object which one would you have?
@@markmottershead646 All of them 😏
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I wish there were more shaft driven bikes in this class.
Hi brian ,yes the shaft drives only seem to be on the big capacity 1200 cc plus bikes ,would be nice to have a shaft drive on the tiger 800 all the best mark
mark pulling
I have no doubt it’s a fine machine,just don’t like mucking around with chains😂Thank you for your replies Mark.
So Mr Pulling, I can only have one bike to do: 3 x 70 mile (round trip inc M/Way) weekly commute, 100 mile Sunday IAM sessions, 'as often as possible' fun rides round all my local twistys and coming from a back/shoulder aching cramped up Street 765R (nearly 1500 miles per month) ...... The Tiger 800XRT, Tracer 900GT, Kawasaki Versys 1000SE Would appreciate your thoughts and advice?
Hi Bob ,well all three of those bikes are my favourites,I've reviewed all of them ,my money would go on the versys ,it's just an absolute dream to ride,however it's pretty huge and heavy ,so if you want something a little easier to push round I'd go triumph tiger 800,great engine and wind protection,the tracer is great but just feels a little more built to a price than the other two ,good luck ,let me know how you get on All the best mark
I can't speak for the Versys but I currently own a 2018 XRT and I previously had a Tracer 900. The Tracer is pretty much an upright sports bike, powerful fun engine, rather aggressive ride but pretty vibey. Suspension doesn't like anything other than smooth roads, seat is fairly tall, stock screen is rubbish. The Tiger is down on power but still fun, a lot more refined and very nicely made, better suspension and overall comfort, better screen, lower and more comfortable (heated) seat. Tiger has better fuel economy (I get on average commute 55mpg, Tracer was about 45mpg) Tiger is about 13kg's heavier though.
To conclude it depends what you want. Something more sporty and aggressive get the Tracer, something more chilled and refined get the Triumph.
I'm a T120 rider but I may add a Tiger to the stable. I like the road version like this XRT, but I like the looks of the beak on the off road versions. I wonder if you can add a beak to the road version.
You can add a beak to the XRT, and I would agree it looks better with the beak.
@@applecorp Good to know.
Yes they are overpriced and no one can list these alleged 200 changes but being a short legged mon I don't have much choice. The heated seats and grips have made my winter riding cosy enough, however.
what triumph do you have
Well I hope you're proud of yourself, your 4 year old video just made me spend a lot of money 🤣🤣
Haha oh well great choice
Enjoy your bike
Best wishes mark
Beats TMF,s review.
I love this Bike : fantastic Tiger 800 XRT : it is in my top 3 dream bikes to upgrade my lovely CB500X, but i will never buy one! its way to much expensive! In Canada, price is : 18 000 $ Canadian. Are you serious Triumph ? You will tell me that the XRX & the XR are cheaper: true, but harder to sell when they are used. In Canada : Triumph Tiger 800 XR is 13500 $ & Tiger 800 XRX is 15500$. They both are also to much expensive. The new interesting KTM 790 Adventure price in Canada is 13500$. The new great Guzzi V85TT is 13990$. So Triumph Canada need to lower their prices or they wont sell much Tiger 800 in 2019.
Hi yes I was surprised by the price too. Yamaha tracer is better value but I still love this bike all the best mp
Triumph it has so around the world /I think/. In middle Europe is the price 15000 euros, but for this price you can buy KTM 1290SAS. Tiger 1200 is expensive as well, compatitive with price only to Ducati MTS 1260S.
Yamaha Tracer 900 is 12000$ Can. & Tracer 900 GT is 14600$ Can.: nice sport touring bikes.
BMW & Triumph adventures bikes always have very expensive options kit to became interesting.
im not surprise why CB500X are so popular : great value for the money; excellent quality/price; the new upgraded & improved 2019 at 8000$ Can. its a good deal.
Expense has not prevented BMW selling motorcycles it wont prevent Triumph selling Tigers and remember those that spend the least complain the most!
Hi Mark, is it possible to tour 2 up with luggage? Or is it too underpowered and only good for 1+luggage?
Hi mark ,its got 95hp ish which is plenty for two up and luggage,its still going to be pretty fast :) all the best MP
mark pulling - Thanks as I’d read elsewhere that sub 100bhp might be a bit light for 2 up but I guess it depends on the motor
Pity about the scaffolding, and no quickshift
yes for £12k you would expect that these days all the best MP
I really can decide between this and the F750GS Sport. What are your thoughts?
@Leon Jennings - I know that you have probably already purchased your next bike by now, but I cannot recommend the Tiger 800 highly enough. Having spent 12 years on various BMW R1200 GSA’s, I decided that at 74 I needed a lighter bike. I had a loan F850 for some time but felt it was too off-road focused for my taste. I tried the Triumph and fell in love with it. I describe it as the biggest “small” bike I could find - whereas the F850 just felt like a small bike! What ever you buy/have bought, keep it shiny side up!
@@bryanduncan1640 I actually bought an 800 XCA then at first year service swapped and bought a new 1200 XCA
@@leonjennings6615 - don’t get me wrong, I still think that the BMW GS is the best bike in the world, it’s just that it’s too damn heavy (as would be the Tiger 1200).
Africa twin rules..
Do you know what name they are calling that blue color, I live in the states and noticed that European countries offer different colors than they send to the u.s. thank you.
Hi mark it's called MATT COBALT BLUE All the best MP
Nice bike! I'd prefer it if Triumph would get rid of those welded rear foot-pegs! They are welded to the frame and if you drop it they take the weight directly onto the frame. Bent frame = right off?
Too right David couldn't agree more !
So which do you like better? The XRT or XC- ?
Xrt
Tiger 800 XRT or Yamaha Tracer 900GT - what is your view? Cheers.
I'd go with the triumph mark ....I just prefer it's engine a bit more
If you can afford it the new triumph 900 is brilliant
TFT screen problems reported!! ok when the bikes under warranty, after that it's £900 to replace!! also these tigers are notorious for burning oil, think a Suzuki vstrom 1000 is a better buy, no cruise though.
Thanks for the info re the tft screens , MP
Yeap my Tiger XC 2016 i had to constantly keep feeding her oil :( it's like it's moved by Oil instead of gasoline :-\ got tired of it and sold her :-\ but they made changes to the engine, so perhaps it's fixed?
I need a bike licence!!
Yes Chris do it you know it makes sense ! All the best mark
I have had one of these and they are good bikes, but for value for money you can't beat the Yamaha Tracer GT.
Have to agree Nigel I'll be testing the newer one in a few weeks at crescent Yamaha
Hope the fuelling is better than the first gen tracer 900 I tried which was really jerky.
Hi wight ,yes it was perfect ,no surging or hunting ,1st class :)
How do you think a new rider at 5'10" would cope with this bike?
Hi ,your height is fine ,and this bike is very easy to control with it's upright position and wide bars ,take it easy with the power and speed for a while and you should be fine as a new rider ,it's a superb bike to ride All the best mark
You should be fine at 5 10 ,it's a great bike with a nice upright position ,take it easy on the throttle for a few months and slowly build up your skills All the best mark
@@markpulling12 thanks for the repy! All the best.
@@markpulling12 test rode one today. What a machine. Planted, comfortable and more power than I would ever need. Fantastic bike.
@@Ste197 that triple engine is amazing isn't it :)
Any plans to ride the 950 ?
maybe paul ,ducati is an hour away for me in winchester ,if im up that way ill pop in and test it all the best mark
@@markpulling12 Oh yes. ditto on that request. 950S please.
I rode one in the summer, it was on my short list but in the end I got a KTM Super Adventure S for about the same money
Hi steve ,rode the 2015 ktm adventure ..what a bike all the best mark
Still 2 weeks to wait, then it's off to Andorra at Easter to pick up dome cheap kit. Happy days!
@@stevepovey2489 dome cheap kit ?
Some.....sorry, I ran out 'esses' :-)
Whats the fuel capacity
Tank Capacity 19 L
19 litres
Nice bike. But not very good for touring. 6th gear is short - 120km/h at 6000rpm.Not suitable for long trips, especially on highways.
It's fine, very little vibes on this bike so no problem for me.
@@applecorp same here
I test drove that exact same model and thought it vibrates quite a lot and requires a lot of RPM to really have power. I couldn't see myself doing 200km on it as on the 30 minute ride i had i already felt uncomfortable with it... Too much noise too. It looks superb and it has noticeable quality, but i much rather go with a F750GS.
Hi i have a review on the 750 gs aswell MP
800cc... toy bikes?