Bach - Fantasia and fugue in C minor BWV 537 - Wiersinga | Netherlands Bach Society
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- The Fantasia that precedes the Fugue in C minor, performed by Erwin Wiersinga for All of Bach, is a lamento pur sang. The rarefied notes floating high up seem to be lamenting some tragic loss or other. It is hard to imagine a greater contrast with the fugue that follows. Still in mournful mood from the fantasia, you suddenly plunge into an extremely energetic first theme of the fugue.
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Erwin Wiersinga, organist
Organ: Christoph Treutmann, 1731
0:07 Fantasia
5:33 Fuga
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@@KangKhafid ?????
@Sade Nishimura you're in the wrong feed
The first 89 bars of the work were composed by Bach in Weimar, but the last 41 bars were composed by J.L. Krebs just after Bach's death in 1751. This fact explain the da capo form of this fugue (just as the mature "wedge" fugue BWV 548): it was the very best solution that the pupil could find to finish this early fugue of his great master. This explain why the themes are never combined as one would expext from Bach: he left the fugue unfinished and it was completed some decades later by his very best pupil.
Wow I never knew that
What’s your source? I don’t doubt it, but I can’t seem to find this bit of information online.
@@fooberdooge3103 you will find this interesting and convincing thesis in every book of Bach's organ music: the first 89 measures were copied by Krebs' father from an original manuscript in Weimar, then Krebs completed it in 1751, adding the last 41 bars
@@lucadeieso4815 So it's not confirmed, just a hypothesis?
@@fooberdooge3103 yes obviously no one have the Truth, but if you know your Bach, then you understand why this thesis Is the best to explain the strange contrapuntal "weakness" of these final bars
I think this is my favorite performance of this work. The opening registration in the fantasia is fitting--soft and elegant while the music is dreary and full of gloom. I really enjoy the fugue as well.
So refreshing to have a fantasia/prelude that isn't played with the usual organo pleno. Makes the fugue even more intriguing.
With the stops used and the tempo Mr. Wiersinga chose, he makes the fantasia sound heartbroken. I feel he drew the emotion out of the piece quite skillfully. Well done!
The Fugue is just stunning. So much tension and drama. Thankyou so much for this interpretation
This first part just went ever so well with my mid-winter-nostalgia, slightly melancholic.... than the fugu woke me up alright. Beautiful rendition.
I am floored by the beauty of this work by Bach. The organist's playing is most impressive and masterly. The organ itself is a dream. Thank you, from Canada.
A MAGNIFICENT COMPOSITION, ON A WONDERFUL ORGAN, AND MUSICIAN. IT DOESN´T MAKE ME MELANCHOLIC ONLY PROFOUNDLY EMPATHETIC AND COMFORTING. THE FUGUE SEEMS TO BE A REBELIOUS CONFRONTATION WITH THE FANTASIA IN A SORT OF CHALLENGE TO THE OPENING MOOD.
This piece comes from heaven.
Agogik, Artikulation, Phrasierung - alles ganz nach meinem Geschmack und Verständnis. 'Musikalische Rede' kann so kaum besser verstanden werden! Dreidimensionale Musik. Meine Gratulation,Herr Wiersinga!
agogic -> relating to or denoting an accent produced by lengthening the time value of a note.
Wonderful registration and performance... these are very deep waters by a masterful composer
I'm in absolute awe. Imagine hearing this in person!!!!!
That right hand has been through a lot. Nine bows to you, sir.
Wunderschöne und tiefempfundene Aufführung dieser perfekt komponierten Fantasie und Fuge im ruhigen Tempo mit durchsichtigen und perfekr vereinigten Tönen der historischen Orgel sowie mit sorgfältig kontrollierter Dynamik. Einfach wunderbar!
3 years and I still continue to come back to this often. Does not get better than this, thank you NBS for continuing to make top tier quality videos even till this day! Cheers!
Magnificent! Hard to imagine more perfect tempo or articulation. A model for all of us who study this piece!
Geweldig geen dag zonder Bach
Beautiful and heart wrenching. How can you not love JS Bach?
Who not love J.S.Bach?Quien no puede amar al grande Bach?
@@joseluisgimenezperez909 Nessuno, sono più che convinta
Absolutely no idea! ;)
He was the most brilliant composers who ever lived.
@@le_0318 i understand, but he will never be a Hildegard non Bingen, a dufay, machault, i love polyphony, in all its expressions
Beautifully played!!! This is one of my most favorite pieces!! Thank you!!🌺
Probably the most melancholic Bach's organ piece in my opinion... I'd like to hear BWV 534 performed by Erwin Wiersinga!
The most underrated “Bach organ”
Great tempo control, which is key to the performance of this music. This instrument is also one of the most beautiful organs in the world. Thanks for this exemplary rendering!
Currently learning this piece. What an amazing bar set by this performance.
a tear cannot dream
I have absolutely no idea what on earth that means, but it sounds very poetic though.
Beautiful interpretation of this extraordinary masterpiece by BACH, how much Edward Elgar would love BACH's organ music, that he made a wonderful, inspiring transcription for orchestra with a creative force of BACH's religiosity.
Mooi en intens gespeeld. Prachtig om te horen dat bij het ouder worden de 'rijping' ook groeit in de voordracht.
Magnificent! I can only imagine how thrilling it must be to play music like this on a fabulous instrument such as the one in this video. Keep it up NBS please - loving every video! (...and looking forward to hearing the St Matthew Passion, live in Naarden, in April!)
Could you guys possibly do BWV 543, I love that piece.
It would be amazing
they should publish all of 2344 Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis
Zederath, I am sorry for my inadequate English. BWV 543? Search for Christian Barthen, for me as a HIP-supporter, I think that Barthen does it very well! Listen to the clear difference of tempi between the Preludium and the Fugue, it fits very well to the time signatures C and 6/8.
@@geiryvindeskeland7208 There are a lot of good performances of BWV 543. One of my personal favorites is Simon Preston's interpretation.
What an awesome performance!
Es hermosa la Obra y su gran interpretación al órgano...Gracias por ésta verdadera Fantasía Espiritual...no debiera admitirse anuncios... al escuchar una melodía que nos conecta directamente con Dios...que no admite éstas fallas...🙏 inexplicables...y sin embargo nos perdona...
Diese Aufnahme ist der Beweis dafür, dass die Musik vor allem JS Bachs die Verbindung zwischen dem göttlichen Himmel und der Erde darstellt. Gespielt von Wiersinga wird die Orgel zum Kosmos!
Bellissima interpretazione!
In the sound of this organ I feel an alone soul who tells her own pain to God
thats exactly what i feel
@@qdwre Many days have passed, but I greet you an happy 2023
Well done. A good tempo. Many thanks!
I like that he DOESN'T do the all-too-common transition to a major chord on the ending note.
What other performers end the piece in c major? I think it would sound really horrible. Maybe not horrible, but incorrect, considering the overall gloom of the piece.
@@MitchBoucherComposer I don't know about this particular piece, but I do know that many but not all performers end other Bach (and other Baroque) pieces in minor key with a major chord, and in each case, as you say, it sounds really wrong when put together with the rest of the piece.
It is called a "Picardy third". Some music is written that way. It is a type of borrowed chord. It can be found in choral music as well. I think William Bryd's vidimus stellam is a good example. Can also be found in a handful of BWVs like 887....
@@AceyBleach Thanks for giving the name of this phenomenon: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picardy_third . . . I wouldn't mind it every now and then if that's what the composer put in, but it seems awfully overused, and I have heard more than one instance of the same piece played with it and without it, as if the performer or arranger had thought that one had to be put in if it wasn't explicitly marked.
I'm no expert, but I read someone saying that it was a tradition to not end on minor chords in churches sometimes (at least this was the explanation for a Dmaj end on bmv 565 toccata fugue video)
And in that great video, one of the Netherlands Bach Society's organists ended the song on a major instead...I personally thought it actually kinda worked, even though it felt unusual.
Best organn fugue by the Master!
Magnificent!!!!
Wunderschön👍🎶
Бах❤ Вершина. Океан. Космос. Невыразимое.
when bach is the inventon on blood moon dance of star butterfly, excellent interpretation sir.
correction: star vs forces of bad
Amazing!!
Ich habe nur ein einziges Wort, es ist wunderschön. Die Registrierung wunderschön, die interpretation auch.
Unbelievable!! Bravo Maestro!!
How to tell if your organ is perfect: the drone of the pipes.
Heartbreaking
Bravissimo!!
The prelude was sort of meh but the fugue is definitely worth being considered as another one of bachs greatest masterpieces!👏👏👏👏👏👏
Bellissima sinfonia
Super!
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Glamorous and intense.
En smuk og letløbende orgelkoncert. Flot spillet......
Bravoooo!!!
This fantasia and fugue can be considered as the opposite of the F&F in G minor. The outstanding far modulations of the latter are replaced here by a much more regular and quiet but very sensitive harmonic structure, giving the falsely feeling of a conservative style.
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De uitleg direct na de uitvoering
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НЕМНОГО НАУЧИЛСЯ ЧИТАТЬ ПО НЕМЕЦКИ ___ НАПИСОНО ФАТАЗИЯ И ФУГА В ДО_ МИНОР !!! !!!!! И КОНЕЧНО ЛЮБМЫЙ ИОГАН СЕБАСТЬЯНОВИЧ БАХ !!!
СПАСИБО ЗА ВИДЕО !!!!!
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Плачущая фантазия с мышечной фугой.
A lamento pur sang - Фантазия, предшествующая фуге до минор. Тонкие тона, витающие в воздухе, кажутся плачущими о какой-то трагической утрате. Слабые тона органов, которые издалека грохочут глубоко, еще больше усиливают чувство отчаяния. С введением второй темы атмосфера стенания не уменьшается, потому что теперь ноты начинают спускаться попарно, попарно. Даже после частого повторения обеих тем страдания еще не закончились, потому что они заканчиваются вопросом.
Трудно представить себе больший контраст с последующей фугой. В то время как после фэнтези вы попадаете в меланхолическое настроение, вы внезапно погружаетесь в чрезвычайно энергичную тему первой фуги. Это мускульная музыка, и это подтверждает вторая тема. Выше! Выше! громче! громче! Это девиз здесь. Из-за растущего хроматизма ноты все больше сжимаются друг с другом и, таким образом, при щедром взаимодействии педали приобретают драйв толпы, лихорадочно ищущей выхода. Как своего рода выход на бис, начало возвращается почти буквально, и в конце Бах, кажется, предпочитает энергичное исполнение - хотя оно заканчивается в минорной тональности.
Автограф этого недатированного произведения не сохранился, а единственный экземпляр чуть не погиб после смерти ученика Баха Кребса в 1780 году, когда большой рулон рукописей пригрозил выбросить как старую бумагу. Точно неизвестно, кто спас произведение от забвения, но проявленная решительность в любом случае является данью самой композиции.
BWV
537
Заголовок
Фантазия и фуга до минор
Инструмент
Орган
Жанр
органные произведения
Год
после 1720 г.
Город
Кётен / Лейпциг
I’ve never heard of a “lamento pur sang.” Is that a typo?
It is the way the text writer describes this work (a typical lamento)
BACH = m x c (squared)
Yes 😃🙂
Divine music between a winged dolls as if this is a kids (girls) corner ... ... funny )))
7:20
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Decent.
Leave out the intro & just play the music
The complexity of the musical writing and the organist's little aptitude to regulate the correct duration of the sounds makes listening very tiring
Sadly I must say that I agree with you, though he did a better job with the fugue, wich proves that he had studied it a bit more and wasn't just sight reading like with the fantasy. I don't consider myself to be entitled to say if he is a good musician or not, but I think he is, it seems like he just didn't practice the piece very much
Before hearing the performance itself, I was tempted to object to your taste here. But, like the other commentator, I find that I have to agree with your response to Mr. Wiersinga's apparently uncontrollable non-legato. Granted, this is a matter of taste: my own response to this sort of performance practice has transformed over the years.
But in this performance the non-legato is not expressive: it is applied uniformly from beginning to end. It is constant.
His registration choices work fine for me. I've played bwv 537, and love it. I would play it today with more expressive articulation and agogics than when I first learned it.
Don't we love NBS for providing us with such opportunities for comparing each other's performance tastes?
That first note makes me quite happy about my choice in headphones.
That deep note that massages your ears & brain. 😌
Your whole body needs contact with the soundwaves of this note for the real experience.
What an organist! What an organ! What a total genius composer!
_Think I will turn my sub woofer on and piss off my neighbor! Thank you JSB!_ 🤣
Absolutely brilliant! Brilliant composition, brilliant performance, brilliant video recording by NBS. Bravo!
The opening measures with the haunting pedal bass and perfectly chosen registers is astonishing.
I need to give at least a million likes to express how much I like this masterpiece.
Thanks very much to NBS.
FYI: that odd 6 note ascending theme that suddenly appears in the middle of the fugue is an amazing throwback to a Middle Ages musical technique called the hexachord. Simply the first six notes of either a major or minor scale. So what Bach is doing is combining an ancient pre-Renaissance musical form and state of the art Baroque counterpoint. The real question is why? Did Bach hear something while he was constructing the fugue that made him think of the hexachord? And why right in the middle of the fugue, bookended by the original fugue theme? I guess we will never know.
You’ve commented about this on so many videos of bwv 537. Spread the word I guess
No? Lmao
@@theguywithcoolpens6466 lol
This is a remarkable performance of an amazing piece.
So beautiful and beautifully played.
Like Wiersinga, this has long been a great Bach favorite of mine - both to hear and play.
I prefer to play the Fantasia "bigger," using manual Principals 8' 4' 2' / pedal Principals 16' 8' 4' - but it works quite well here with quieter 8' and 4' voices, as well. And I think his tempos and phrasings, etc. are just right.
We really do hear some great sadness expressed in the first movement, perhaps after Bach had lost one of his children or a wife. (?)
Its only the 8' you hear. Its very rich in overtones!
@@wietseouwejan6804 Thanks. I did wonder about this. Thought I heard a 4' in there.
The consensus dating of this piece is 1723, three years after Bach had returned from a long voyage to Bohemia to find his wife dead and buried. Tragedy would not spare Bach as in later years seven (!) of his children died, and two close relatives who lived in his house. And let's not forget that at the age of ten he had lost both his parents.
@@rjwusher It's amazing how much joy pervades Bach's music, considering the tragic life he lived.
I LOVE THE ELEGANCE OF THIS ORGAN. THE SOUND.. THE MARBLE MOULDINGS... THE COLORS IN THE ITALIAN TASTE..THE KEYBOARDS IN EBONY AND IVORY. IT IS NOT PLOODING MUSIC, BUT CONTEMPLETIVE MUSIC, AND I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS RECORDING.
Agreed. A very open, pure, slightly gilded on the edges sound that is very refreshing and clear
All the voices and the harmonies Bach put in this masterpiece make me think about the duality of every human being. We live the whole adventure accepting this truth
Bravo, not Koopman speed, but I love it... it's one of the most important pieces, for me... Erwin Wiersinga -> Bravissimo!
Bach exemplifies Loss Of Life in his music. The loss of his first wife which haunted him most of his life is woven into his music.
I don't like very much organ music, but it's excelent! I am enchanted by his playing
You should try listening to more organ music. Obviously you have good taste, because as far as organ performances go, this is the absolute best.
it's called King OF Instruments for a reason
@@tahaouhabi3520 It's the only instrument that can produce such variety of sublime sounds. It fits perfect with Bach.
🕊Love Bach🕊
Thank God without him Bach would have not been who he was. He would have been a different man.
Pray that we may return to such greatness!
Bach loved God
And God loved bach and his offering all this wonderful music...
Amen, Bach was perhaps the greatest composer to have lived. If you question this listen, read about counterpart. Fugue subjects - I think you will agree. This Organist is Brilliant!!
There is no perhaps about it!
@@kennyrafel5090 Eh...
Geweldig gedaan, Erwin. Hulde.
Un instrument magnifique, superbement entretenu, et de la bonne époque. Une réverbération terrible et des échos "diablement" difficiles à dompter. Là est la prouesse d'Erwin Wiersinga à donner un rendu clair et audible. C'est très fort et très beau.
Ahh...la langue de Molière superbement rendue !
Autrement dit : des "signes" purement linguistiques. Mais ! Langue et parole d'emblée à la hauteur du message dans la bouteille jetée à la mer.
Bouteille qui est belle et bien arrivée a ce destinataire qui t'adresse la parole depuis l'état d'Arizona (Apache Co .. Cowboyland) aux É-U. Eh oui: 4 langues utilisèes journalièrement comme langue maternelle. Le
Zuni (7000 ans). Le Diné (Navajo). L'espagnole (ca. 1780). L'anglais (cultivé et en dialecte Cowboy) ca. 1890. Il existe même une certaine culture d'orgue avec nos deux instruments à tuyaux dans la région immédiate !!
Mais Bach. Notre théologien à tous. Non?
Vive la France! 3X à la vôtre!!
Mark
@@markbell9973 Et que Dieu ait pitié de l'Amérique... À la vôtre...
Pura serenidade... beleza excessiva. Eu sei lá que mais...
Vielen Dank für das Video. Sehr Gut!
Superb.
Mi hai fatto "gustare" questo brano in modo superlativo!
quite possibly the most genius artist to ever put pen to paper
beautiful ❤️
Beautiful. And what an interesting thing it is to watch the organist with all of the movement required including using the feet for the lowest notes. That is a workout that takes a lot of focus and energy!
Wow this organ almost sounds like a human voice. Perfect registration, beautiful playing, wonderful!
Qué delicia! Interpretación, registración, instrumento todo perfecto.
Thanks Bach.Thanks NBS. You are adorable.
Extraordinary ~ THANK you !!!
Just what I needed for today... Thank you NBS.
Wonderful! Bravo!
Geweldig!! Mooi gespeeld en super leuk om je zo even weer te zien Erwin.
Beautiful.