7:40 Gord, you knew that already about not sawing to the ground, but good discussion for those who need it. On that note tho, it is good to be aware of any dirt/rocks that get caught in teh bark. When I finish the cut I have the bottom of the log facing me or facing downward rather than facing straight up. That way any dirt that has accumulated on the bottom of the lot gets pulled off (hopefully) before mixing with the chain. There may still be some dirt/rock hit by the chain, but this helps minimize any dirt/rocks mixing with the chain and causing any damage and hopefully extending the life of your chain. Good luck.
LOL! Yes indeed I did David, and that was why I showed it and mentioned it. Good point about the rocks - I look first and decide based on what I see. Great tip though! Cheers - enjoy your weekend!
You are getting it figured out!👍 I saw your comments on getting some new small files and they should help on the 261. Even though...it was the best it has cut in awhile now.😃 Keep at it and you will see how rewarding sharpening your own chains can be and you will get faster at it also...Have a great weekend!
Morning Wayne. I think I was long overdue to replace the old files - The old ones are smooth to the touch and the new ones are rough to the touch. Big difference. Another learning from you good folks. - Cheers my friend!
I totally agree with you about rolling the log and not cutting all the way to the ground. I think you proved it in this video. When the 261 started out you could see the chips, but by the 9:25 mark it looked more like dust (or at least much smaller chips). As you know, it doesn't take much to dull a chain! 😁👨🚒
Nice job, GP. Its nice having a couple different saws to work with. That MS261 is a great limbing/small log bucking saw. The MS462 is a beast. Very similar to what we do. We use MS180 or Husky 55 for limbing/small bucking. Then MS461 for the big logs. Have a great day.
@@GPOutdoors Thank you you have a great weekend as well I live in New York and we don’t have any rain thank God for that but I had a busy cutting season I cut over a cord of firewood watching your videos they get me moving thanks for the great videos I enjoy them 👍
Good fun comparing the house cat to the jaguar GP !! LOL Lots of times I'll cut 3/4 or more through on the whole log, then roll the whole log with a cant hook before up-cutting the remaining portion. By cutting up from the bottom, a lot of time the vibrations created by the chain passing through will dislodge and bounce away small grit and grime that may be imbedded in the bark from the ground, minimizing contact with the chain. For the few that you have to, the top cut option is always available. Of course as always, that's only my opinion. Stay safe, stay cool my friend.
Morning T! Excellent advice my friend - several others have suggested the same thing. And it makes good sense, however, I am finding that sometimes it is better to cut down instead of up from under, when i can see the curf is slightly compressed (no flat ground around here !! LOL). Have a great day and thanks as always mon ami!
I have the 500 I and you couldn’t ask for a better saw it has more power then what I know what to do with, but I am going to get the 261 pretty soon. I think that is a pretty good saw. After I buy that one I will have four chainsaw. I think I will be good for great video.👍
GP. I have the same two saws and I just sent the 261 off to be ported with muffler mod. I hardly ever pick up the 261 just because it is so slow compared to the 462. Hoping the ported 261 gets more used upon its return. I definitely like the weight of the 261 compared to the 462. Stand up and buck with the 462. No need to be bending over. Cut with the front half of the saw. Nice video.
Great video Gord, that 462 is a brute and a sawing machine. Didn't look like the 261 was throwing chips, more of a dust? It's a great saw too but has to be sharp all the time. You have some beautiful weather up there right now, won't be too long till you need to switch closets to the layered clothes getting closer each day;-) Stay safe up there and keep up the great videos. Fred.
Hi Fred! Yes, I noticed a bit but lots of chips too - however a few others suggested it as well - I stopped by the saw shop today and got new files for the 261 - will re- sharpen and try again this weekend - I'll let you know how it goes for sure. Cheers my friend!
I live in Montana on the east side of the Rocky Mountains and we don’t have large trees. I use a MS 260, 026, and Husqvarna 550XPG, all 50cc saws for probably 90% of my work. There great saws.
GP I love my 261 and it definitely has a position in my lineup but the 462 is on another level. My production increases considerably when I’m using it. Enjoy, be safe, and have a great weekend!
Both good saws with the proper chain and grind. I don’t know who suggested going right through into the dirt, but I wouldn’t let him borrow my power saws!! Unless of course you like filing and buying chain.
You can change the drive sprocket on the 261 to a 3/8 drive and then you can run the same 3/8 chain size as the 462. That way you would use the same size file on both saws.
Hi GP, I think that your MS261 is slower because it is not sharped not beauce the motor is smaller. On your video, I can see the chips size is much bigger with your MS462. But I can be wrong.
GP, the 22 more cc's in the 261 sure makes a difference. Music to my ears. I wasn't sure or not when you noted chisel chain if you meant full chisel or semi chisel. Full chisel will cut faster but will dull quicker than a semi chisel chain. Semi chisel cutter have a rounded shoulder / side plate while the full is more flat/square. Anyway I suspect your pro saws came with full chisel chains. If you ever get a chance try a full and semi skip tooth chain. Have a great weekend.
@@GPOutdoors Skip is used with longer bars, less cutters equals less friction and less friction is easier on the saw and that keeps the rpm's up and the engine cooler. Does a skip chain cut better, well it's not a matter of better but rather different since the skip chain arrangement is ideal for wider wood and not so good for small stuff. Your full comp will be smoother and quicker with slightly smaller chips while a skip will will disburse debris easier but you'll feel more vibration. You need to experience it since words don't really describe it that well.
I went the same route with the Stihl 261 first then a 462 for the same reasons. Love my Stihl saws! The 261 is perfect for the smaller stuff, light and nimble even with a light weight 25 inch bar. If you really need to get some work done the 462 comes out. A pound or two doesn’t sound like much of a weight difference but tell me what you think after a few hours.
Hey GP. Just wondering you don’t burn firewood but you sure see. To cut a lot of firewood. 😀. Keep up the good work on your videos. We enjoy watching them.
LOL! Well, kind of nice to be out staying active and I really enjoy it - learning alot out there all the time. :)) Plus, can't beat spending time out there with the guys, when they are out and about. Cheers and thanks!
Might not be as sharp as I thought - did see a little dust but I didn't think that much. Dropped by the saw shop today and bought some new files for it. We'll see this weekend when I go back out to the log pile. Thanks Z!
I’m in the market for a chainsaw and after watching your vids thought I wanted an MS 462. Then I look at the price tag, $1,400.00 US. 😵💫. Looks like an MS 261 w/ 21” bar for me.
Hi Gord, have you had any issues with starting the ms261 cm when it is already warmed up. I just picked one up and it doesn't seem to like to start after it is warmed up. I assume I have to to the carb reset process but was wondering your experience. Thanks for another entertaining and informative video.
Morning Mainer. Yes, but my fault. Here is what I have found - after it is warmed and I use it for a while, turn it off then use it within about 5 minutes or so, i just depress the decompression button and pull the rope and it starts right away. If I leave it longer I find I have to cold start it - decompression button and push the run button to the cold start position and then pull. Sometimes I leave it too long and then try to just push the decompression button and pull...and keep pulling and then smell gas ( flooded). LOL. Then I leave it for a bit and then try starting until it starts So, over time I learned if I leave it longer than about 5 mins, I have to cold start it again. Also, if you find that when you first start it for the day, it takes 8-10 pulls, that is normal for a version 3 saw ( 3rd generation), It is because of the M -Tronic. If you are not sure what version you have , look at the serial number sticker on your handle, you will see in the bottom right hand corner of the sticker, "M3.0", or "M2.0" for a version 2 etc. Hope this helps!
@@GPOutdoors Thanks a lot for the helpful advice. I believe I have the 3rd gen. When it runs it is top notch, just been a struggle with the restart. Sounds I will be in good shape now.
261 in the video see like it need to be sharpen, now 462 is put bigger chip probably new chain on it. You can’t compare apples with oranges . Gord got look at the cc from both chainsaw , you should got an 390 xp husqvarne ( 88 cc ) Went get into big timber you need 88cc up into 100cc .
Hey thanks Leonard - a few folks noticed the same thing - I picked up a couple new files for the 261 and will take another crack it this weekend and see if it makes a difference. Cheers!
Hey GP, would like to get your opinion. I’m considering purchasing an MS362 or the new MS400 to be somewhere between your two saws. I live in the Sierra Nevadas and hear my house with wood, so I buck and split 7-10 cord per year. Thanks!
Afternoon Gord! I think the boys are afraid to bring out their saws to play! I think it is going to go from "HUSKY" to "husky" and Gord, can you cut this?! 😂🤣
I dont think the chain is as sharp on the 261? the only way to know for sure how they will perform their best is a new same type of chain on each one and I would go with a full chisel chain then run the times again as hand sharpening a chain can be hit or miss 80% of the time
Gord, the difference in the chips was big time. Buy two new chains and compare, the gap shouldn’t be that great. The 462 should be faster than the 261. Time to buy a boiler or wood burning fireplace.
Morning Kevin. I think you are right - just picked up new files yesterday and I think i left my old ones too long before replacing them. Will try again tomorrow. Thanks - enjoy your weekend!
Another fun video to watch, thanks! Guess I might have guessed how that competition might end. But what's happened to the venerable Mingo marker? Has it been replaced by laser technology?
LOL! No, not at all - still love - we use it more now when we are working lots of logs or a few of us are out together. When I m on my own just doing a few logs, I find this Prosizer does the trick! Cheers!
Good Morning GP, Your front grapple as been paid off for sure and great operator in deed that you are Sir 😇💪👌👍 Drinking water is must during that time of the year( bring it in a thermos ) 🥴 Pretty good cutting timing GP 😇👌👍 You are realy getting pretty good at chainsaw sharpening mon ami 👍👌😇 Practice make perfect and a little supervision tricks make you an expert 🧐👍 Yes try to avoid ground contact and Yes flip these logs for sure to avoid over sharpening after soil or rock strikes 👌😇 Your very nice looking wife must like your nice sets of summer tan drummer arms that you have mon ami 😇👍 I have to resume doing my 50 push up per day ( I stop since 2 months !!! ) if I want to attract a nice lady like your GP with my moustache, it is tough going maaaan 🤣👍 OUSTANDING VIDEO GP and Have a very blessed week and please do enjoy your family time 👍😇 Bip Bip 🤣👍👌 Cheers
You got nice equiment and a clean area to work
Enjoy watching your videos. Thanks for sharing
Have a great weekend GP - both saws have their place so a comment on them would be un Canadian of me lol. Cheers and stay safe. Pete
LOL! You too, Pete!
7:40 Gord, you knew that already about not sawing to the ground, but good discussion for those who need it. On that note tho, it is good to be aware of any dirt/rocks that get caught in teh bark. When I finish the cut I have the bottom of the log facing me or facing downward rather than facing straight up. That way any dirt that has accumulated on the bottom of the lot gets pulled off (hopefully) before mixing with the chain. There may still be some dirt/rock hit by the chain, but this helps minimize any dirt/rocks mixing with the chain and causing any damage and hopefully extending the life of your chain. Good luck.
LOL! Yes indeed I did David, and that was why I showed it and mentioned it. Good point about the rocks - I look first and decide based on what I see. Great tip though! Cheers - enjoy your weekend!
Another great video thanks
You are getting it figured out!👍
I saw your comments on getting some new small files and they should help on the 261. Even though...it was the best it has cut in awhile now.😃 Keep at it and you will see how rewarding sharpening your own chains can be and you will get faster at it also...Have a great weekend!
Morning Wayne. I think I was long overdue to replace the old files - The old ones are smooth to the touch and the new ones are rough to the touch. Big difference. Another learning from you good folks. - Cheers my friend!
Have a good weekend GP. Ready for cooler fall weather so cutting can start.
You too Bob! Just woke up to the first chilly morning. The tides have turned - whew!
I totally agree with you about rolling the log and not cutting all the way to the ground. I think you proved it in this video. When the 261 started out you could see the chips, but by the 9:25 mark it looked more like dust (or at least much smaller chips). As you know, it doesn't take much to dull a chain! 😁👨🚒
Been debating 462 vs 500i. I think you have convinced me! 462 to complement my 261 and 220cbq battery saws. Great video. Thanks for all you do
Morning Todd! Thanks for tuning in and good luck with the saws!
Nice job, GP. Its nice having a couple different saws to work with. That MS261 is a great limbing/small log bucking saw. The MS462 is a beast. Very similar to what we do. We use MS180 or Husky 55 for limbing/small bucking. Then MS461 for the big logs.
Have a great day.
You do a great job by cutting up wood nice job operate your tractor great video👍
Thanks kindly Dean! Have a great weekend ahead - hopefully we won't see any more rain for a while. :))
@@GPOutdoors Thank you you have a great weekend as well I live in New York and we don’t have any rain thank God for that but I had a busy cutting season I cut over a cord of firewood watching your videos they get me moving thanks for the great videos I enjoy them 👍
Thanks, Cheers!
I agree, almost thru then flip over and finish. Not crazy about testing my skills at sharpening chains more than I have to.
Gord, I think Guy called you over for coffee, it wasn't the storm. Have a great day and be safe.
LOL! You too Mike
Good fun comparing the house cat to the jaguar GP !! LOL Lots of times I'll cut 3/4 or more through on the whole log, then roll the whole log with a cant hook before up-cutting the remaining portion. By cutting up from the bottom, a lot of time the vibrations created by the chain passing through will dislodge and bounce away small grit and grime that may be imbedded in the bark from the ground, minimizing contact with the chain. For the few that you have to, the top cut option is always available. Of course as always, that's only my opinion. Stay safe, stay cool my friend.
Morning T! Excellent advice my friend - several others have suggested the same thing. And it makes good sense, however, I am finding that sometimes it is better to cut down instead of up from under, when i can see the curf is slightly compressed (no flat ground around here !! LOL). Have a great day and thanks as always mon ami!
I have the 500 I and you couldn’t ask for a better saw it has more power then what I know what to do with, but I am going to get the 261 pretty soon. I think that is a pretty good saw. After I buy that one I will have four chainsaw. I think I will be good for great video.👍
GP. I have the same two saws and I just sent the 261 off to be ported with muffler mod. I hardly ever pick up the 261 just because it is so slow compared to the 462. Hoping the ported 261 gets more used upon its return. I definitely like the weight of the 261 compared to the 462. Stand up and buck with the 462. No need to be bending over. Cut with the front half of the saw. Nice video.
I like to start with my 462 but generally end up finishing with a 50cc saw the lighter weight can make a big difference.
Great Video Gord! It's getting to be that time of year and we love it! I need to buck up some wood..
LOL! Cheers Tim!
Great video Gord, that 462 is a brute and a sawing machine. Didn't look like the 261 was throwing chips, more of a dust? It's a great saw too but has to be sharp all the time. You have some beautiful weather up there right now, won't be too long till you need to switch closets to the layered clothes getting closer each day;-) Stay safe up there and keep up the great videos. Fred.
Hi Fred! Yes, I noticed a bit but lots of chips too - however a few others suggested it as well - I stopped by the saw shop today and got new files for the 261 - will re- sharpen and try again this weekend - I'll let you know how it goes for sure. Cheers my friend!
Well , your handfiling seems to be darn good 👍. Nice saws man 🪵☑️.
Thanks kindly!
Looks like somebody is learning fast how too sharpen a saw hand filing . 👍
Hey thanks Ridgeback! I'll keep at it. Have a good one!
I live in Montana on the east side of the Rocky Mountains and we don’t have large trees. I use a MS 260, 026, and Husqvarna 550XPG, all 50cc saws for probably 90% of my work. There great saws.
I have the 261 c-m I really like it my go to saw I never use my others. I have a echo 590. Great saw. Just like the power and weight on the 261
GP I love my 261 and it definitely has a position in my lineup but the 462 is on another level. My production increases considerably when I’m using it. Enjoy, be safe, and have a great weekend!
You too Tony - Have fun out there this weekend!
You're using your machines and fuel to cut someone else's logs? What kind of friend are you?
A good one!!!!
LOL! Cheers and thanks!
Both good saws with the proper chain and grind.
I don’t know who suggested going right through into the dirt, but I wouldn’t let him borrow my power saws!! Unless of course you like filing and buying chain.
You can change the drive sprocket on the 261 to a 3/8 drive and then you can run the same 3/8 chain size as the 462. That way you would use the same size file on both saws.
Hi GP, I think that your MS261 is slower because it is not sharped not beauce the motor is smaller. On your video, I can see the chips size is much bigger with your MS462. But I can be wrong.
Good day Denis. I did sharpen it but did notice a bit of dust, too. The cutters are smaller on the 261 than on the 462. Cheers and all the best!
My wife says “ with those guns for arms,he should be able to hols a saw in each hand and race them”.
LOL! Your wife is too kind C2! :)) Wish you both a nice weekend.
GP, the 22 more cc's in the 261 sure makes a difference. Music to my ears. I wasn't sure or not when you noted chisel chain if you meant full chisel or semi chisel. Full chisel will cut faster but will dull quicker than a semi chisel chain. Semi chisel cutter have a rounded shoulder / side plate while the full is more flat/square. Anyway I suspect your pro saws came with full chisel chains. If you ever get a chance try a full and semi skip tooth chain. Have a great weekend.
Hi JO - it is a full chisel. Does the semi skip chain cut better?
@@GPOutdoors Skip is used with longer bars, less cutters equals less friction and less friction is easier on the saw and that keeps the rpm's up and the engine cooler. Does a skip chain cut better, well it's not a matter of better but rather different since the skip chain arrangement is ideal for wider wood and not so good for small stuff. Your full comp will be smoother and quicker with slightly smaller chips while a skip will will disburse debris easier but you'll feel more vibration. You need to experience it since words don't really describe it that well.
I went the same route with the Stihl 261 first then a 462 for the same reasons. Love my Stihl saws! The 261 is perfect for the smaller stuff, light and nimble even with a light weight 25 inch bar. If you really need to get some work done the 462 comes out. A pound or two doesn’t sound like much of a weight difference but tell me what you think after a few hours.
Stihi own got 90 days warranty in Canada , husky give a full year . Gord if you got it’s new work it’s hard in 90 days .
GP try your comparison with new chains on both saws. Your sharping skills will improve with time. Be safe
Is the 462 a newer version of the 046 which I had and was a good falling,bucking saw,replaced the 048 and 038 which I used for bucking and falling.
There is the query of why Stihl made the 500i, when the MS462 already existed. And this demo only reinforces that query. The 261 is a great saw too.
Hey GP. Just wondering you don’t burn firewood but you sure see. To cut a lot of firewood. 😀. Keep up the good work on your videos. We enjoy watching them.
LOL! Well, kind of nice to be out staying active and I really enjoy it - learning alot out there all the time. :)) Plus, can't beat spending time out there with the guys, when they are out and about. Cheers and thanks!
How did the 462 do on gas?
Your 261 is pretty dull you can see in sawdust its lots of dust in
Might not be as sharp as I thought - did see a little dust but I didn't think that much. Dropped by the saw shop today and bought some new files for it. We'll see this weekend when I go back out to the log pile. Thanks Z!
I’m in the market for a chainsaw and after watching your vids thought I wanted an MS 462. Then I look at the price tag, $1,400.00 US. 😵💫. Looks like an MS 261 w/ 21” bar for me.
The 261 is a nice saw Big Jim - I love it a lot. Cheers and enjoy the new saw!
I just put 5 liters of fuel through my MS261 bucking 30" hardwood logs with a 20" bar. Zero complaints, highly recommend.
What about the 880i Magnum? Lol
How is the vibration on the 462? Thanks GP
Hi Gord, have you had any issues with starting the ms261 cm when it is already warmed up. I just picked one up and it doesn't seem to like to start after it is warmed up. I assume I have to to the carb reset process but was wondering your experience. Thanks for another entertaining and informative video.
Morning Mainer. Yes, but my fault. Here is what I have found - after it is warmed and I use it for a while, turn it off then use it within about 5 minutes or so, i just depress the decompression button and pull the rope and it starts right away. If I leave it longer I find I have to cold start it - decompression button and push the run button to the cold start position and then pull. Sometimes I leave it too long and then try to just push the decompression button and pull...and keep pulling and then smell gas ( flooded). LOL. Then I leave it for a bit and then try starting until it starts So, over time I learned if I leave it longer than about 5 mins, I have to cold start it again. Also, if you find that when you first start it for the day, it takes 8-10 pulls, that is normal for a version 3 saw ( 3rd generation), It is because of the M -Tronic. If you are not sure what version you have , look at the serial number sticker on your handle, you will see in the bottom right hand corner of the sticker, "M3.0", or "M2.0" for a version 2 etc. Hope this helps!
@@GPOutdoors Thanks a lot for the helpful advice. I believe I have the 3rd gen. When it runs it is top notch, just been a struggle with the restart. Sounds I will be in good shape now.
261 in the video see like it need to be sharpen, now 462 is put bigger chip probably new chain on it. You can’t compare apples with oranges . Gord got look at the cc from both chainsaw , you should got an 390 xp husqvarne ( 88 cc ) Went get into big timber you need 88cc up into 100cc .
Hey thanks Leonard - a few folks noticed the same thing - I picked up a couple new files for the 261 and will take another crack it this weekend and see if it makes a difference. Cheers!
I sharpen with dremel
Hey GP, would like to get your opinion. I’m considering purchasing an MS362 or the new MS400 to be somewhere between your two saws. I live in the Sierra Nevadas and hear my house with wood, so I buck and split 7-10 cord per year. Thanks!
Afternoon Gord! I think the boys are afraid to bring out their saws to play! I think it is going to go from "HUSKY" to "husky" and Gord, can you cut this?! 😂🤣
LOL! They can't hide forever. :)) Cheers Bob!
how long can you tread water, hehehe.
Heck of a downpour Jim - for several days actually. Hopefully the weekend is clear and sunny for us both - Cheers!
GOD BLESS AMERICA
I dont think the chain is as sharp on the 261? the only way to know for sure how they will perform their best is a new same type of chain on each one and I would go with a full chisel chain then run the times again as hand sharpening a chain can be hit or miss 80% of the time
Gord, the difference in the chips was big time. Buy two new chains and compare, the gap shouldn’t be that great. The 462 should be faster than the 261. Time to buy a boiler or wood burning fireplace.
Looks like every thing you have is brand new. If I had your money I'd burn mine
You’re gonna make be buy a bigger saw 😂😂😂
Gord, I feel like the 261 was not sharp or the rakers were high. Mine cuts so much better than yours. Thanks for the entertainment.
Morning Kevin. I think you are right - just picked up new files yesterday and I think i left my old ones too long before replacing them. Will try again tomorrow. Thanks - enjoy your weekend!
Like to get a light bar Stihl not available in ohio yet
Another fun video to watch, thanks! Guess I might have guessed how that competition might end. But what's happened to the venerable Mingo marker? Has it been replaced by laser technology?
LOL! No, not at all - still love - we use it more now when we are working lots of logs or a few of us are out together. When I m on my own just doing a few logs, I find this Prosizer does the trick! Cheers!
Good Morning GP, Your front grapple as been paid off for sure and great operator in deed that you are Sir 😇💪👌👍 Drinking water is must during that time of the year( bring it in a thermos ) 🥴 Pretty good cutting timing GP 😇👌👍 You are realy getting pretty good at chainsaw sharpening mon ami 👍👌😇 Practice make perfect and a little supervision tricks make you an expert 🧐👍 Yes try to avoid ground contact and Yes flip these logs for sure to avoid over sharpening after soil or rock strikes 👌😇 Your very nice looking wife must like your nice sets of summer tan drummer arms that you have mon ami 😇👍 I have to resume doing my 50 push up per day ( I stop since 2 months !!! ) if I want to attract a nice lady like your GP with my moustache, it is tough going maaaan 🤣👍 OUSTANDING VIDEO GP and Have a very blessed week and please do enjoy your family time 👍😇 Bip Bip 🤣👍👌 Cheers
LOL! Thanks Davey! Enjoy the rest of the beautiful weekend mon ami.