Agree, shorter stem works for me too, running 60 before then 45mm 7 positive degree, made a lot of difference, the "twitchiness" of a shorter stem was compensated by the wide bars so all good. I'll try to experiment more with different stems like a 60mm with 45 degrees + for a little bit upright position.
Hi Dean. Greetings from Montreal. I came across your channel this morning. Great videos! Listening to you talk about back, neck, wrist issues, I can totally relate. I’ve had the jones h bar for a couple of years, and I find the different hand positions really help. Your video about that Jones bar pack convinced me that that bag would be useful, I am wondering if that bag is in the way of placing your hands close to the midline of your bike (upper and lower)? Those are two of my favourite hand positions…keep up the great work!
I have been trying (in vain) to get these in India, but they have been out of stock for over a year here. I finally got Surly Corner Bar after months of waiting, cannot wait to get them on and give them a try. Gotta say, alt bars these days have us spoilt for choice. Between two generations of Velo Orange Bars, Soma Bars, Jones Loop Bars, Surly Corner bar and so many more, I would never wish to go back to drop bars or flat bars for long distance, relaxed riding. Not to mention, MTB components are so much more affordable than their road counterparts. :)
I also use loop bars, and find them very comfortable, I notice yours are set 'level' mine I mount sloping down to the grips a few degrees, this can change the feel of the bars, something other people may want to trial when setting up their bars.
Hi Alan. I had them tilted downward for all last summer, But I thought I'd try bringing them up a bit and it made a world of difference for me because of my back and neck issues. But yes for sure the bar level is going to play a huge roll in comfort. Cheers
Hey guys. Thanks for the useful comments. I’ve had a Jones h bar for a couple of years now. Like both of you I have been playing around with the slope. If I raise the from part of the loop too high, the handlebars go down, which is not ideal. Do either of you know if there is a recommended angle? Thanks again. Very helpful!
Hey, shorter stem, sore back and neck on long days...... I have that. It is a terminal disorder, no cure. They call it *age* !! I used to run a bike with a nice low handlebar height, always. Then I got the Thorn Nomad and it was about 5cm higher at the handlebar. For a long time this was fine. Nine years later with a new fork for the disc brakes I chose to keep the handlebar higher still (must be at least 10cm higher than the old Sedona was) and it is perfectly comfortable; I feel happier being able to sit more upright for a break on long tours and even on climbs sitting upright allows me to spin the pedals easier and climb better. BTW, my son has the old Sedona frame and he had some Jones bars fitted to it (the ones with the gap in front) but now he uses a Surly Moloko bar.
Yes Peter this aging think is something that is unavoidable. I will just keep adapting as I age so I can stay on the bike. A few years back I would have never considered using bars that look like this...but alas I had to give in to comfort. Cheers
Hi Lance. Yes many people call it Loop Bar but Jones calls the H-Bar so for review purposes I stuck with that. It's a great bar for anyone looking for comfort fit or not. Myself I am very fit but have had two bad accidents that left me very banged up and these bars have helped me to stay on the bike all day without feeling to beat up. Ride Safe.
Thanks for the informative video. I’m dumping my drops on my LHT and looking for a upright position. I think the Jones will do that. I was curious as what shifter and brake system you are using
Hi Daniel. I am using Shimano XT for everything on my bike. However if you want to safe a few bucks I would look at the Shimano Deore line. Has a lot of the same features as XT and XTR but more affordable and getting rave reviews on the Pinkbike bike reviews. But having said that I have been using XT for 20 years now and has never let me down. Thanks for watching! Cheers
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures ....ah... well... my bike stays in the corner of my metal building pool room... gets dusted off from time to time. With my prostrate problems and procedures.... this 70 + old man doesn't get it out and around the block much. I haven't rode... since I got the new bars. The bike shop put me on longer cables .... I'll bet it rides just fine... but I have a ways to go yet to know for sure.
I use the 2.5 bar also. I use a suspension stem and the extra hight works out perfect with the stem ! If your posture is good with standard loop bar you don’t need the 2.5
Hi Chris. Yes it would do that. But the point of alternative shaped bars like this is to offer different riding positions and ultimately what most people are getting them for is comfort and the ability to get in a more upright riding position. If getting in a more upright position is not a concern than there would definitely be better bar choices than the H Bar. Thanks for watching. Cheers
I like the look of these bars Dean, for an old timer like me anything to help with comfort is a plus. I checked out their website and looks like they have another version with a 2.5" rise on them. Did you consider these at all? Bob...
Hi Bob. No for me the 2.5 would be to much . I am only 5'7" and I am riding a medium so the regular bars work better for me. But they would be an attractive option for many. Hey I am leaving on Friday morning to tour but my plans have been slightly changed. I will be riding through the Toronto area around Monday -Tuesday. I was having major issues with my email account and believe it or not I lost your email again!! lol If you send it again I will send you my cell # maybe we can make something happen. y schedule is flexible. Cheers
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures Not sure if adding my email to a comment delates the comment? I tried twice but the comment disappears. I have sent email to your account, hopefully it has gone through. Bob...
Also love the bars - while I have un weighted my wrist, shoulders and neck, I think because of the more upright riding position I have transferred weight to my butt which is not happy. Any suggestions?
Hello! Saddle comfort is a very difficult to give advice on but there are a couple things you could try. Stem length is one way you can adjust riding position by going longer or shorter can make a huge difference. Adjusting your saddle either forward or back on the rails can also make all the difference in the world. Than of course there are padded riding shorts etc...I would highly recommend a bike fitting if you have a good bike shop where you live. I hope I was able to help out but if you have any questions please feel free to ask. Cheers
Hi. It’s all to do with you’re ‘sit bones’. The bottom parts of your pelvis. Most bicycles are sold with a 43mm width saddle as standard. Which for a lot of people is too narrow. A shop will measure you’re sit bones by getting you to sit on a special cushion that they will have in the shop. Once you get up from it,you will leave two indents. They are made by your sit bones. The chap will measure them centre to centre. This will denote which width saddle you will need. Then just buy one. You will ride a lot further. All the best.👍🏾🇬🇧
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures No worries. I just thought I would explain how a ‘saddle fitting’ is done.It can also be done at home,by using a piece of folded up tin foil,and the third step on your stairs,by just sitting on the foil in just your underwear and measuring the indents yourself. All the best.👍🏾🇬🇧
Sorry I can not as I have zero hands on experience with the Denham. However it does look like a good bar and well made. Sorry for late response, somehow didn't see this. Cheers
I have a Koga Denham bar, which I really like, but I'm considering purchasing a Jones bar. My only problem with the Koga, and it's a big one, is that there isn't much room on the handlebar between the end of the bar and the horn. The bike I wanted to put the Koga on is electric, and there wasn't enough room to mount the brake levers, shifter, throttle, and power level switch. The Koga's sweep is just about perfect, which makes me wonder if the 45 degree sweep on the Jones bar might be a bit too much.
@84imreplica the degree of sweep on Jones bar may not be right for everyone, comfort on a bike is very different for each individual. For me the 45 degree back sweep is perfect for my wrist problems for others the Denham would be better...it's kind of like saddles, very difficult to give advice on. Thanks for the comment. Cheers
Hello. I am pretty sure they are no longer in production. But you may be able to find them online somewhere as old stock. I really do not recommend them at all however. Very uncomfortable for touring. Cheers
Hey Auggie. It's a Oveja Negra Chuckbucket. Great bag. Here is a link if you want to check it out. Cheers. www.ovejanegrabikepacking.com/collections/handlebar-bags/products/chuckbucket-handlebar-bag
Agree, shorter stem works for me too, running 60 before then 45mm 7 positive degree, made a lot of difference, the "twitchiness" of a shorter stem was compensated by the wide bars so all good. I'll try to experiment more with different stems like a 60mm with 45 degrees + for a little bit upright position.
Hi Dean. Greetings from Montreal. I came across your channel this morning. Great videos! Listening to you talk about back, neck, wrist issues, I can totally relate. I’ve had the jones h bar for a couple of years, and I find the different hand positions really help. Your video about that Jones bar pack convinced me that that bag would be useful, I am wondering if that bag is in the way of placing your hands close to the midline of your bike (upper and lower)? Those are two of my favourite hand positions…keep up the great work!
Great review! I am impatiently waiting for my Loop bars/bag/grips to be delivered Thursday!! Can’t wait! Cheers!
Great choice I am confident you will be very happy. Ride safe
I have been trying (in vain) to get these in India, but they have been out of stock for over a year here. I finally got Surly Corner Bar after months of waiting, cannot wait to get them on and give them a try. Gotta say, alt bars these days have us spoilt for choice. Between two generations of Velo Orange Bars, Soma Bars, Jones Loop Bars, Surly Corner bar and so many more, I would never wish to go back to drop bars or flat bars for long distance, relaxed riding. Not to mention, MTB components are so much more affordable than their road counterparts. :)
Amit I agree it's al about the comfort! It is awesome that there are so many choices now days! Cheers
I also use loop bars, and find them very comfortable, I notice yours are set 'level' mine I mount sloping down to the grips a few degrees, this can change the feel of the bars, something other people may want to trial when setting up their bars.
Hi Alan. I had them tilted downward for all last summer, But I thought I'd try bringing them up a bit and it made a world of difference for me because of my back and neck issues. But yes for sure the bar level is going to play a huge roll in comfort. Cheers
Hey guys. Thanks for the useful comments. I’ve had a Jones h bar for a couple of years now. Like both of you I have been playing around with the slope. If I raise the from part of the loop too high, the handlebars go down, which is not ideal. Do either of you know if there is a recommended angle? Thanks again. Very helpful!
Hey, shorter stem, sore back and neck on long days...... I have that. It is a terminal disorder, no cure. They call it *age* !!
I used to run a bike with a nice low handlebar height, always. Then I got the Thorn Nomad and it was about 5cm higher at the handlebar. For a long time this was fine. Nine years later with a new fork for the disc brakes I chose to keep the handlebar higher still (must be at least 10cm higher than the old Sedona was) and it is perfectly comfortable; I feel happier being able to sit more upright for a break on long tours and even on climbs sitting upright allows me to spin the pedals easier and climb better.
BTW, my son has the old Sedona frame and he had some Jones bars fitted to it (the ones with the gap in front) but now he uses a Surly Moloko bar.
Yes Peter this aging think is something that is unavoidable. I will just keep adapting as I age so I can stay on the bike. A few years back I would have never considered using bars that look like this...but alas I had to give in to comfort. Cheers
Love the video, thank you. Was looking for a comfortable handlebar and I have found it. Keep it up 👍
Amin glad I could help! Cheers :)
Awesome vid ! Keep up the good work!
Thanks Gary, much appreciated! I hope it was helpful in some way. Cheers
apart from being practical I think they look great on your bike, thanks man
Reece I agree they look bad ass. It took a bit for me to get used to the look but now I love it. Thanks for watching
Im also using that bar the only difference is the name, we call it "Loop Bar". Its great for multi-day ride for not so fit people
Hi Lance. Yes many people call it Loop Bar but Jones calls the H-Bar so for review purposes I stuck with that. It's a great bar for anyone looking for comfort fit or not. Myself I am very fit but have had two bad accidents that left me very banged up and these bars have helped me to stay on the bike all day without feeling to beat up. Ride Safe.
Great review , been thinking about one. Wish they had in shops, online buying just doesn't give you the hands on ..
I agree. I thought about it for some time before ordering. But I am very happy that I did. Cheers
Thanks for the informative video. I’m dumping my drops on my LHT and looking for a upright position. I think the Jones will do that. I was curious as what shifter and brake system you are using
Hi Daniel. I am using Shimano XT for everything on my bike. However if you want to safe a few bucks I would look at the Shimano Deore line. Has a lot of the same features as XT and XTR but more affordable and getting rave reviews on the Pinkbike bike reviews. But having said that I have been using XT for 20 years now and has never let me down. Thanks for watching! Cheers
nice informative video thank you
Your very welcome. Have a great day.
Thanks!
Wow thanks Michael! You are the very first to do this. Very much appreciated. Ride Safe :)
I have the Jones elevated bar... 2.5 " on my 1120.
Hi Will. How do you like them? Have you used the standard Loop bar like I use before? If so how do they compare? Cheers
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures ....ah... well... my bike stays in the corner of my metal building pool room... gets dusted off from time to time. With my prostrate problems and procedures.... this 70 + old man doesn't get it out and around the block much. I haven't rode... since I got the new bars. The bike shop put me on longer cables .... I'll bet it rides just fine... but I have a ways to go yet to know for sure.
I use the 2.5 bar also. I use a suspension stem and the extra hight works out perfect with the stem ! If your posture is good with standard loop bar you don’t need the 2.5
Maybe I'm dense but would sweeping the bars closer to you require a longer stem to get back to stock reach?
Hi Chris. Yes it would do that. But the point of alternative shaped bars like this is to offer different riding positions and ultimately what most people are getting them for is comfort and the ability to get in a more upright riding position. If getting in a more upright position is not a concern than there would definitely be better bar choices than the H Bar. Thanks for watching. Cheers
I like the look of these bars Dean, for an old timer like me anything to help with comfort is a plus.
I checked out their website and looks like they have another version with a 2.5" rise on them. Did you consider these at all?
Bob...
Hi Bob. No for me the 2.5 would be to much . I am only 5'7" and I am riding a medium so the regular bars work better for me. But they would be an attractive option for many. Hey I am leaving on Friday morning to tour but my plans have been slightly changed. I will be riding through the Toronto area around Monday -Tuesday. I was having major issues with my email account and believe it or not I lost your email again!! lol If you send it again I will send you my cell # maybe we can make something happen. y schedule is flexible. Cheers
Btw the Jones H-Bar is the best upgrade I have made comfort wise. Cheers
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures Not sure if adding my email to a comment delates the comment? I tried twice but the comment disappears.
I have sent email to your account, hopefully it has gone through.
Bob...
Also love the bars - while I have un weighted my wrist, shoulders and neck, I think because of the more upright riding position I have transferred weight to my butt which is not happy. Any suggestions?
Hello! Saddle comfort is a very difficult to give advice on but there are a couple things you could try. Stem length is one way you can adjust riding position by going longer or shorter can make a huge difference. Adjusting your saddle either forward or back on the rails can also make all the difference in the world. Than of course there are padded riding shorts etc...I would highly recommend a bike fitting if you have a good bike shop where you live. I hope I was able to help out but if you have any questions please feel free to ask. Cheers
Hi.
It’s all to do with you’re ‘sit bones’. The bottom parts of your pelvis. Most bicycles are sold with a 43mm width saddle as standard.
Which for a lot of people is too narrow.
A shop will measure you’re sit bones by getting you to sit on a special cushion that they will have in the shop.
Once you get up from it,you will leave two indents. They are made by your sit bones.
The chap will measure them centre to centre.
This will denote which width saddle you will need.
Then just buy one. You will ride a lot further.
All the best.👍🏾🇬🇧
@@soggz4246 I do believe I mentioned to get a proper fitting. Cheers
@@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures No worries. I just thought I would explain how a ‘saddle fitting’ is done.It can also be done at home,by using a piece of folded up tin foil,and the third step on your stairs,by just sitting on the foil in just your underwear and measuring the indents yourself.
All the best.👍🏾🇬🇧
Nice. Could you please compare with Koga Denham?
Sorry I can not as I have zero hands on experience with the Denham. However it does look like a good bar and well made. Sorry for late response, somehow didn't see this. Cheers
I have a Koga Denham bar, which I really like, but I'm considering purchasing a Jones bar.
My only problem with the Koga, and it's a big one, is that there isn't much room on the handlebar between the end of the bar and the horn.
The bike I wanted to put the Koga on is electric, and there wasn't enough room to mount the brake levers, shifter, throttle, and power level switch.
The Koga's sweep is just about perfect, which makes me wonder if the 45 degree sweep on the Jones bar might be a bit too much.
@84imreplica the degree of sweep on Jones bar may not be right for everyone, comfort on a bike is very different for each individual. For me the 45 degree back sweep is perfect for my wrist problems for others the Denham would be better...it's kind of like saddles, very difficult to give advice on. Thanks for the comment. Cheers
At one point you mention the bar you switched from, to the Jones H bar. Can you post a link to that other bar?
Hello. I am pretty sure they are no longer in production. But you may be able to find them online somewhere as old stock. I really do not recommend them at all however. Very uncomfortable for touring. Cheers
Btw. I still have the old bars. If you live in Canada I might be able to ship them to you if you really want them. Cheers
I had question this loop bar is it confortable for kong trip ?
Hello! Long trips are what it does best! I wouldn't use anything else for long distance. Cheers
what feed bag are you using?
Hey Auggie. It's a Oveja Negra Chuckbucket. Great bag. Here is a link if you want to check it out. Cheers. www.ovejanegrabikepacking.com/collections/handlebar-bags/products/chuckbucket-handlebar-bag
U in Canada
Hello. Sorry I just saw this. Yes I am in Canada!
Good bars, if you have an outstanding orthopaedic surgeon who can cure you of the radiocarpal damage they will csuse.